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sssk
22-10-2010, 13:16
Obviously it's different for different armies, but how many battle line units do you field in your armies (by battle line I mainly mean blocks of infantry, though use your discretion to add other things as you see fit)?

I'm basically wondering if 3 or 4 units of 40 night goblins (and a small unit or two of archers) and a unit of 6 trolls is too much at 2000 points....but then my mind wandered to the broader question.

Draconian77
22-10-2010, 13:21
I field one 30-50 man battle line unit at the 2250 mark when I use my Dark Elves. Then again, I'm not really a " fight them head on" type of player.

reddevil18
22-10-2010, 13:25
i have everything other then my hell canon on the battle line, maybe my knights would be behind my hounds but they charge forward all the same.

freddieyu
22-10-2010, 13:31
for my lizards I like to field at least 3 rank and file combat blocks....even at 2000 pts...

For my empire, I field at least 4 infantry blocks (with supporting detachments in addition)....2000 pts and above...

amysrevenge
22-10-2010, 15:01
With Dwarfs I like four at 2000, five at 2500 (including Quarrellers in that total). One of those blocks is a very deep anvil, the rest are hard-hitting hammers.

Stuffburger
22-10-2010, 17:11
With O&G i tend to have between 3 and 5 at 2k. My most recent list had 50 NG spears, 30 shield boyz and 30 2x choppa boyz. I tend to count my unit of 30 NG bowmen as "battle line" since I often reform it and have it charge a weakened unit towards the end of the game- so 4 in my last list.

SevenSins
22-10-2010, 17:14
with my dark elves I run 2x30 spears and 2x20 RxB's

for my skaven I'm planning on at least 8x30 various rats, possible a few blocks of 40 aswell :)

sssk
22-10-2010, 17:24
for my skaven I'm planning on at least 8x30 various rats, possible a few blocks of 40 aswell :)

hehe, for your sanity's sake, I hope you decide to change that plan fairly quickly, though I have been told that undercoating things white, and then putting a few layers of various washes on it makes things look quite good, quite quickly. Especially useful for "dirty" ratmen.

Anyway, by the looks of things, I was probably aiming too high. I think I'll reduce it down to 3 units of 40 handweapon and shield, 2 units of 20 shortbows, and a unit of 6 trolls....and maybe another bigger bow unit for bunkering a wizard in, depending on how things go.

Anyway, keep up the responses, it's interesting to get a good demographic

Desert Rain
22-10-2010, 17:35
I have three with my High Elves. One unit of 23 spears with my BSB, 14 Swordmasters with full command and the talisman of loec on the champion and finally 15 white lions with full command, banner of the eternal flame and the ironcurse icon.

I also have 14 sea guards in the army butt hey are not a mainline unit, they hang back and shoot a while before they do rear-guard duities. They are also the bodyguards for my archmage.

Leth Shyish'phak
22-10-2010, 23:06
The WoC army I will use tomorrow will have four main units: 22 MoT+shield warriors, 20 MoT+shield warriors, 22 MoT+halberds Chosen and 15 MoT Knights. :evilgrin:

Somehow, I still manage to have: a level 4, bsb, 20 hounds a warshrine and a spawn. :confused:

Kevlar
23-10-2010, 00:02
Usually 4 blocks of 50 slaves
2 or 3 blocks of clan rats 20-25 strong
one block of storm vermin 30-35 or a furnace and 30-35 monks

So usually about 8 blocks plus some small units of rat ogres, gutter runners, or censer bearers.

Normally field 10 or so units not counting war machines.

spiderman5z
23-10-2010, 05:05
mmmm with my tomb kings i only run a 25 block of tomb guard as a main combat block in 2500. However with chaos dwarfs I run 100 hob goblins, 25 black orcs, and 25 chaos dwarf warriors in 1500 pts.

Akrilyk
23-10-2010, 07:53
For warriors of chaos 2000 points, my battle line is 4 units; 2 units of 18 warriors and 2 units of 30 marauders.

Seperate from the battle line is knights, dragon ogres, and chaos hounds, although since it's all chomping at the bit anyways, it tends to look like a 7-8 unit battle line.

starlight
23-10-2010, 08:00
Seldom less than four, and as many as eight, depending on the army and point value.

papabearshane
23-10-2010, 08:11
I never go anywhere with out My Savage Orcs 30 deep, 25 Biguns wit 2 Choppers and 2 More 30 strong shield boyz + a few gobbo blocks thrown in there for flavor. 2000pts up at 3 k and beond i might have as many as 6-10 Main Battle Line blocks. Hord for the Win!!!!

jthdotcom
23-10-2010, 11:18
My whole army for WoC is only 3 units anyway! 2 units of 18 warriors 6x3, and a unit of 6 knights with an exalted and bsb both on juggers in there to. And a level 4 on disc.

Suprisingly it really works

Vsurma
23-10-2010, 11:41
Lizards:
2*24 saurus with spears
1*20 temple guard

Then either
7 cold one knights
or
2*11 skinks + 1 krox

So 3 main line units with 1 or 2 flanking supporters.

Goldenwolf
23-10-2010, 14:55
For O&G I use 3 blocks of Boyz (40 each of Arrer, Shield and Double Choppa) with a Chariot and war machines in a 2000 point list. I have a weakness in that someone with small units can get around me, but I have been able to smash a lot with the Rock Lobba, Doom Divers and Spear Chukkas that threaten my flanks.

Haravikk
23-10-2010, 17:59
Three or four for my Dwarfs at ~2,000 points. I tend to go for multiple units of 20 (partly because that's what I have), rather than trying to field a larger anvil and small hammer units, as any time I take smaller combat units they get charged early on and crushed :)

Tarian
23-10-2010, 18:12
At 3k,
High Elves: 5, 2 LSG, 1 SM, 1 PG, and one Lions unit.

Skaven, 8, 4x Clanrats, Stormvermin, 2x Slaves, and Plague Monks.

Don Zeko
23-10-2010, 18:27
The WoC army I will use tomorrow will have four main units: 22 MoT+shield warriors, 20 MoT+shield warriors, 22 MoT+halberds Chosen and 15 MoT Knights. :evilgrin:

Somehow, I still manage to have: a level 4, bsb, 20 hounds a warshrine and a spawn. :confused:

I'm hoping that this is a 3000 points game. Otherwise I want to hear how you fit a Level 4 and a BSB into the 245 points you have left after you pay for all of those troops.

Leth Shyish'phak
23-10-2010, 18:38
Well, to me it looks like there are three options here:

1. I'm cheating.
2. I'm really very stupid.
3. It is indeed 3000 points.

:eyebrows:

Tarian
23-10-2010, 18:55
Well, to me it looks like there are three options here:

1. I'm cheating.
2. I'm really very stupid.
3. It is indeed 3000 points.

:eyebrows:

o.O But you have 8910734585 and a negative twenty seven losses! I'm calling shenanigans! :D

Leth Shyish'phak
23-10-2010, 19:05
Shh, I don't want my opponents to realise I've been using my 3K army in 500 points games. :p

Ramius4
23-10-2010, 19:25
Shh, I don't want my opponents to realise I've been using my 3K army in 500 points games. :p

You really ought to add 1 draw to your record :p

Leth Shyish'phak
23-10-2010, 19:35
The dread host of Leth Shyish'phak does not draw. :mad:

Ramius4
23-10-2010, 23:29
The dread host of Leth Shyish'phak does not draw. :mad:

dread host of who? "Last six-pack"? ;) (now if only you lived nearby so we could settle this on the tabletop:D)

Leth Shyish'phak
23-10-2010, 23:44
I shall not stand for this insult!

Quake in fear, mortal, as I glare threateningly at my computer screen!

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Frankly
24-10-2010, 09:03
I'm basically wondering if 3 or 4 units of 40 night goblins (and a small unit or two of archers) and a unit of 6 trolls is too much at 2000 points....but then my mind wandered to the broader question.


I think thats fine, block of NGs won't win you games by themselves, so don't over do it. 4 units is good. I'm runnig 4 units in 2.5k with just a few fanactic's plus bows and netters. If you have bows in your main NG block you won't need archer blocks, giving your units more utility and lessening deployment probelms with having to get archer units into LOS. Netters will give your units a really good fighting chance against other core units.





Edit: Hahahahaaha .... I just read the former posts. :) ... ahhh .. they made me laugh out loud.

sssk
24-10-2010, 09:40
Netters will give your units a really good fighting chance against other core units.

Oh trust me, I know the glorious wonder of netters. Despite having used goblins for a vast portion of 7th edition, I still find myself charging (with wood elves) against goblin units, and then being surprised when I end up wounding them on 5s.

I think at the moment it's looking like 3 units of 40 hand weapon and shield blokes, 1 unit of 30-40 archers, and probably 2 units of 20 archers (hold flanks from fast cav, sit in watchtower, add flank charges if necessay...maybe make one into 30 archers). Then stick in trolls, a couple of chariots, 2 spear chukkas, a rock lobba (or maybe 2), a doom diver, a couple of snotling pump wagons (best use of 40 points EVER), and a smattering of characters. That should get me easily up to 2000-2500 points.

As for fanatics, I only ever go 1 per unit (if that), otherwise they become an expensive liability.

Anyway, in theory that's 7 "battle line" units (6 units of goblins, and a unit of trolls), which should be plenty to contend with other horde armies, or to "overwhelm" (in the loosest possible sense of the word) more elite armies (by the looks of the examples shown in this thread).

Glasscannon
24-10-2010, 12:07
2x40man state troop hordes and a 30man flagellant in 2500

oldschoolmonk
24-10-2010, 12:38
My Dark elves tend to run 3 at 2000 points and 2500 (20 BG, 20 WE or Exe, and 30-40 Spearmen). Of course I have many other battle line units that are comparable to a fully ranked force, such as 2 hydras and 2-3 units of crossbowmen that stand up front. The support units are so much more reliable than the ranked ones that I'm considering moving towards 2 battle line units and 4-6 support at 2000 pts. I've tried 4 ranked units as well, but it is difficult to get everyone in combat together.

My empire is based around 3 combat units in 2000 or 2500 pts. A Knight block, 30 greatswords, 50 halberdiers (with a 25 swordsmen detachment in 2500). I just can't keep everything together and in range of my general/BSB if I take more!