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BlackJuju
15-11-2010, 22:40
What exaclty is a Necron Pariah ? Part Machine part human ? Or a Machine with the essence of a Human Pariah traped within ?If it is Part Machine part human how is possible to live for so long without the withering of the flesh. Or are they immortals like the rest of the Necrons cause they are 100% machine/metal. Do they "live" in Necron Tomb Worlds like the rest of Necrons when they are dormant ?
Your thoughts please.
Thanks in advance

Loopstah
15-11-2010, 22:44
They must be part biological for the Pariah gene to continue to have an effect once they have become Necrons.

BlackJuju
15-11-2010, 22:47
So they are not "immortals" ? I mean, that they dont live forever like Necrons do.

IvanTih
15-11-2010, 23:00
They're part human,part machine,but considering Necrons and their tech they should be immortal.

insectum7
15-11-2010, 23:15
They might live forever, I like the notion that they could. They don't self repair like other Necrons though, at least, not in a way that can be done on the field.

Necron tech is beyond everyone elses, so they might have a way of keeping the organic part living beyond normal means. No idea how much of a Pariah is actually organic though, I prefer the question unanswered and creepy. Maybe they are all "manufactured" from clones, and grown into the machine. I think it would be cool if they were all exactly the same.

DantesInferno
16-11-2010, 00:14
What exaclty is a Necron Pariah ? Part Machine part human ? Or a Machine with the essence of a Human Pariah traped within ?If it is Part Machine part human how is possible to live for so long without the withering of the flesh. Or are they immortals like the rest of the Necrons cause they are 100% machine/metal. Do they "live" in Necron Tomb Worlds like the rest of Necrons when they are dormant ?
Your thoughts please.
Thanks in advance

As their unit description says, Necron Pariahs are "crafted from a terrible symbiosis of Necron technology and human evolution."

As others have mentioned, the Necrons abduct humans bearing the Pariah gene (the Imperium also searches for humans with this gene, training them into Culexus Assassins). These humans then presumably undergo a similar process that to the original Necrontyr. As Loopstah points out though, there must be some biological parts left so that the Pariah effect remains. One suspects that at least part of the human's brain is retained during the process.

As such, the Pariahs are not going to be immortal in the same way that the other Necrons are. No matter what the Necrons can do to prolong the life of the human tissue inside the Pariah shell, it's going to deteriorate eventually. Other Necrons entirely lack biological parts, so have lasted 60 million years.

It's worth noting that the Pariahs have only been crafted in the last couple of hundred years anyway.

Joewrightgm
18-11-2010, 02:39
As their unit description says, Necron Pariahs are "crafted from a terrible symbiosis of Necron technology and human evolution."

As others have mentioned, the Necrons abduct humans bearing the Pariah gene (the Imperium also searches for humans with this gene, training them into Culexus Assassins). These humans then presumably undergo a similar process that to the original Necrontyr. As Loopstah points out though, there must be some biological parts left so that the Pariah effect remains. One suspects that at least part of the human's brain is retained during the process.

As such, the Pariahs are not going to be immortal in the same way that the other Necrons are. No matter what the Necrons can do to prolong the life of the human tissue inside the Pariah shell, it's going to deteriorate eventually. Other Necrons entirely lack biological parts, so have lasted 60 million years.

It's worth noting that the Pariahs have only been crafted in the last couple of hundred years anyway.

That is probably the creepiest part of Pariahs: they may (or may not be) self aware, compared to the rest of the Necrons who are subject to their personality matrices degrading over time and are basically automatons.

SrgReefer
18-11-2010, 06:58
As such, the Pariahs are not going to be immortal in the same way that the other Necrons are. No matter what the Necrons can do to prolong the life of the human tissue inside the Pariah shell, it's going to deteriorate eventually. Other Necrons entirely lack biological parts, so have lasted 60 million years.



Why cant they be immortal, the Necrons and the C'tan have a grasp on tech like no other race out there. With that I would like to point out that the Big E. made the SM immortal in all respects (don't say that's a lie, they simply die in combat never of old age.) and this was due to the genetic modifications that make them heal faster and there advanced immune system.

CommanderCax
18-11-2010, 09:38
No matter what the Necrons can do to prolong the life of the human tissue inside the Pariah shell, it's going to deteriorate eventually. Other Necrons entirely lack biological parts, so have lasted 60 million years.

Why does it have to deteriorate eventually? Potentially, an organic system could outlast any inorganic/mechanical one. Genetically you “simply” need to make sure the telomeres survive by somehow replenishing them as well as replenishing the organic matter through consumption of certain nutrients and by having an endless cell-cycle. Any organic creature has a cellular turnover that could potentially last forever if the genetical background remains intact. So while the inorganic system deteriorates eventually (e.g. by loss of substance through environmental influences), the organic one could (potentially) be replenished and renewed all the time…


That is probably the creepiest part of Pariahs: they may (or may not be) self aware, compared to the rest of the Necrons who are subject to their personality matrices degrading over time and are basically automatons.

The video game Dawn of War described them as having some sort of self-awareness and that they even kept some kind of identity.

SolkaTruesilver
18-11-2010, 11:45
The video game Dawn of War described them as having some sort of self-awareness and that they even kept some kind of identity.

So, where basic Necrons are more like Skeletons/Zombies, the Pariahs are more like ghasts? Self-aware spirits that are slowly losing themselves, but locked into servitude?

CommanderCax
18-11-2010, 16:56
So, where basic Necrons are more like Skeletons/Zombies, the Pariahs are more like ghasts? Self-aware spirits that are slowly losing themselves, but locked into servitude?

Well yes, sort of... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTESLdiHfHQ)