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Mage
30-12-2010, 00:01
I just ordered the two badab war books a few days ago, along with the poster, the space marine character conversion set, and the iron hands transfer sheet.

I have really liked what I have seen online with what FW have done with the badab war and the detailing on the marine chapters that have not had attention for a while. I'm a big marine fan, and intend to use the transfers to mark my iron hands battle company. I'm not sure what I will do with the conversion set so far, but it will be a small experiment in using resin, which I have not used yet to date.

Mannimarco
30-12-2010, 00:06
Resin can be bad if your not used to playing around with it, you will want to wash it in warm soapy water to get any mould release off it but be gentle as its quite brittle.

Any bent parts (you will get bent parts so dont panic when it happens) can be gently eased back into shape by submerging in warm (not boiling!) water and carefully working it back into shape.

Just start small to get a feel for it and we'll have you building titans in no time ;)

The books themselves look decent enough and bring a little variety to the marine dex (who would have guessed you can play marines without Vulkan?)

Mage
30-12-2010, 01:17
I have read stuf about resin, like washing it in soap, using a mask, and to use a modelling saw as it is not like messing around with plastic and metal.

Gentle, got it, thanks for the advice! I'll be sure to be careful with it.

Ok, don't panic, I'll try not to. Warm not boiling. I can manage that. Working it with my hands and nudging it?

Small is good. I think I can manage with the character conversion pack, and then I'll do some more orders during the year. I really like their infantry models and dreadnoughts. Then again, an eldar revenant titan is tempting...

Yeah, variety is nice. Sick of it all being about the smurfs, wolves and blood angels. Other chapters are important too. I'm glad the salamanders got a character and all, and chapter tactics is cool, but it should not be a special character only thing. Vulkan He'stan should be dead at this stage if he wandered into that many battles looking for those icons of the primarch or whatever.

I miss the old dex with the custom chapter rules...

Cry of the Wind
30-12-2010, 01:26
Be careful with those Badab books, there are a lot of characters in there that sound really neat and are begging to be converted since FW says they won't make models for most of them. Next thing you know you'll have the entire Badab war in your display case...

Once you get used to resin it really isn't that different from working with other models. Just be careful with a knife and clippers around them as sometimes things don't cut where you want and have a natural weak line that can break before the flash/sprue does. Also super glues loves the stuff and will bond with it a lot faster than with a metal or plastic model. Be sure to test fit things first as once the glue gets on it will set very fast!

Jind_Singh
30-12-2010, 02:21
I ordered my 1st ever FW stuff last month and it was hit and miss!

The brass icons - my goodness how amazing were they! I would buy them by the crate load next time!

The resin itself is mostly ok - I didn't anticipate the bendy resin effect so I ended up breaking my door (It was almost doubled up, it was that bent!) and some of the stuff was cast really poorly. But 90% of the order was fine, the REALLY bad pieces FW kindly re-sent to me (thanks FW), and all in all it was a great time to be using the detailed kits on my normal kits.

I am a 100% FW fan - can't wait for order 2!

Mage
30-12-2010, 03:26
@ Cry of the Wind

I wouldn't mind have the whole war in a display case, ha! Thats good to know about the tools. I'll just have to get used to it. Thanks for the tip about super glue, as that is what I mostly use on my models.

I'll try and be careful with it all.


@ Jind_Singh

Bendy ain't good... Well, 90% sounds ok. Sounds like they have a nice returns system.

What's order 2?

Lars Porsenna
30-12-2010, 03:29
I order from Forgeworld somewhat frequently (last 2 orders was a World Eaters dreadnaught, and Iron Warriors rhino doors). I have to say I never got a really bad cast. The twin-ACs for the Dread were a little rough, but my other hobby is model building, so I'm used to a little clean up, and have a lot of experience with resin aftermarket. I never had an unusable piece.

There's a lot of talk locally in the 40K campaign group about quarterly Apocalypse games, so I might save up for a Revenant Titan (a little less than $300...nutty, I know...). That'll be fun to paint...

Damon.

Mage
30-12-2010, 03:58
@ Lars Porsenna

That's good to know. I have heard some horror stories about the quality of some FW pieces, but it was from someone obviously biased.

Quarterly apocalypse games sound cool, I might just do that myself. If you do try and get 4 games a year under your belt, at least if you did buy the titan it would see use. Buy it if your going to use it. It is a damn cool model though. I want one....

spaint2k
30-12-2010, 08:32
That's good to know. I have heard some horror stories about the quality of some FW pieces, but it was from someone obviously biased.


You don't have to be biased to have poor quality castings. I got this from Forge World a few years back and the replacement was equally bad.
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37332&d=1207658687

I had to cut the thing in half down the middle to realign the two sides.

Happily, I ordered another one the other week and it was MUCH better. Quality appears to have improved quite a bit.

sgtspiff
30-12-2010, 08:40
I will make my first order from FW when IA11 comes out. Will be nice reading of the pesky SW and imp guard being beaten by the noble and fantastic space elves.

Simo429
30-12-2010, 08:55
I had a dremel of christmas and it made sorting out my achilles a lot easier.

Astraeos
30-12-2010, 17:10
Good for you! Let us know how you ge ton with the resin. I haven't used it yet and would be interested to see how a first timer gets on with it.

LoreDraconis
30-12-2010, 17:27
Be careful sanding and sawing resin bits. generally using a hobby knife is better if you can.

Resin filings are smaller than plastic and metal, and the dust is carcinogenic when inhaled, so you definitely dont want to be breathing that stuff. if you have to file, fill a tub of water and do all of it with the model submerged, and dump it down the drain when you're done.

Also, wash all those pieces with dish soap and warm water before priming or painting. A soft bristle toothbrush works great for getting into the crevices. I also let them soak in the soapy water for a while before rinsing.

Trying to get paint to stick to unwashed resin is rage inducing, and you can ruin the piece that way. Just dont drop them down the drain!

Lord of Divine Slaughter
30-12-2010, 17:48
I've got a bunch of Krieg grenadiers and a couple of GK dreadnoughts from FW, and I can't say that I've had any problems with the stuff - and I've never bothered with the excessive cleaning, soaping etc., it just haven't been an issue.

I have noticed the brittleness of the resin, but you just keep it in mind and take care :)

Lars Porsenna
30-12-2010, 20:30
The resin FW uses is actually pretty flexible, and the best sort for gaming figures. That being said, it is still less flexible than plastic. Also re: getting paint to stick. I've never had a problem with that either, but I prime FW resin just like metal or plastic, and never had an issue. I've also used specialist model paint straight over a variety of different resins, and never had a problem there either. If you're having issues with paint sticking, it might have more to do with the paint than the resin.

Damon.

Nomrana Est
30-12-2010, 23:43
I generally find all the things I've ordered from FW have been pretty good, with no miscasts or warped parts, and I have bought a fair few things from them in the past. That's just me though.

A general rule of thumb is to wash the parts in soapy water before you start assembling. For me, it make the paint adhere to the resin far better than if you didn't. Even if it doesn't make any difference, it keeps my in a calm state of mind when it comes around to actually painting the thing.

Ulrig
31-12-2010, 02:14
I have made 3 orders (I think) from forgeworld.
Ork and renegade stuff. Some missing stuff from 2 of the orders. They replaced the parts....somewhat timely no problem, communicated via email.

One missing renegade part I emailed them about, they said they would send another out. About a month later still no part. I emailed again....within a couple weeks. I got the replacement part, and then a week after that they sent me a whole new pack.

I have received some miscast stuff...but its ork stuff so it can easily be fixed/hidden.

All this considered....I would order from them again....and more often if the dollar was not complete $#!7 in value.

Mage
02-01-2011, 10:34
@ spaint2k

Oh, dear god, my eyes!

@ sgtspiff

That must be where the new eldar aspect warriors are coming from. That could be interesting too.

@ Simo429

Sounds like a lot of hard work. I empathise. I cut my index finger with a stanley knife yesterday, the very tip of it. Typing hurts...


@ Astraeos

Will do, I'll update this or another thread with it :)

@ LoreDraconis

Noted. I will take all that advise gladly. Cancer is bad.

@ Lord of Divine Slaughter

That's reassuring to know. Thanks.

@ Lars Porsenna

Thanks for the advise. I hope that won't be a problem when I am using the stuff, but its good to know and learn from other people's endeavours.

@ Nomrana Est

Thats intresting. Can there still be problems with resin models and paint chipping off, even if you clean them extensively?

@ Ulrig

As long as its not a complete nightmare when I get the order, I will more than likely order again. There is a not of nice infantry stuff they do.

Deamon-forge
02-01-2011, 12:48
iv lost count how meny orders iv made with FW, iv only had to give a call about missing or damages/miscast thing around 4 times. smaller kits are good to start with then work to the beast of kits. nothing like having FW stuff in your army.

Mage
02-01-2011, 12:51
Yeah, your right about that. The infantry models are brilliant. In future I'm gonna get the nurgle terminator and power armour upgrade packs, huron, and a few armour marks. When I build up my confidence I might get a Caestus. Its such a cool model.

thorgrim
02-01-2011, 15:00
I've ordered from FW more times than i would like to recall (Got some armour sets, MkIV ironclad, weapons and IA 10 and 11 on the way). Personally i've had few problems with missing parts although the occasional slight miscast has lead to some extra work for me. I recommend that after you wash the resin and assemble the model that you give the model a light coat of purity seal before undercoating with spray. I find it really usful to seal any areas that i might of missed when cleaning (i had a couple of models with flaking paint before i thought that trick up).

Mage
02-01-2011, 16:58
Paint flaking? Awful. I saw that happen to a friend's forge world bloodthirster...

You sure that varnishing it is ok? Will that work? How light a spray?

-Loki-
02-01-2011, 23:19
I got my first Forgeworld order just before Christmas. A Heirophant, a Winged Hive Tyrant and a couple of sets of Tyranid Warrior wings. The warrior wings and the Tyrant were pretty much perfect casts. The Heirophant is as perfect as you could expect from something with that many bits. A slightly warped leg, easily fixable, and a slightly filled in joint for the head, which can be filed out.

Deamon-forge
02-01-2011, 23:27
I got my first Forgeworld order just before Christmas. A Heirophant, a Winged Hive Tyrant and a couple of sets of Tyranid Warrior wings. The warrior wings and the Tyrant were pretty much perfect casts. The Heirophant is as perfect as you could expect from something with that many bits. A slightly warped leg, easily fixable, and a slightly filled in joint for the head, which can be filed out.

i hope you going to pin the legs on the Heirophant and i mean running a pin thought the whole leg. as it bends under its own weight. lovly model but easy break.

-Loki-
02-01-2011, 23:33
i hope you going to pin the legs on the Heirophant and i mean running a pin thought the whole leg. as it bends under its own weight. lovly model but easy break.

Nope. I'll be sitting it on long acrylic rods. Basically a big flying base. I'll hide the bottom of it with some trees, so it's less noticeable. Basically, the legs will barely be touching the ground. Pretty much like this. (http://album.warpshadow.com/d/36821-2/11060021.JPG)

Deamon-forge
02-01-2011, 23:44
Nope. I'll be sitting it on long acrylic rods. Basically a big flying base. I'll hide the bottom of it with some trees, so it's less noticeable. Basically, the legs will barely be touching the ground. Pretty much like this. (http://album.warpshadow.com/d/36821-2/11060021.JPG)

could so see from the link, but sound a good idea

-Loki-
02-01-2011, 23:58
could so see from the link, but sound a good idea

This link should work. (http://album.warpshadow.com/v/HiveFleetMysteryShadow/EntireHiveFleet/11060021.JPG.html)

I wanted to avoid drilling or cutting the model. Even with these, there's little rubber bumpers at the top of the acrylic rods to cushion it.

ilikebmxbikes
07-01-2011, 19:07
i have ordered a ton from forgeworld and have only had a few poorly cast parts, which forgeworld sent replacements no questions asked.

From the order you described, you shouldnt really have any parts that lend themselves to being warped other than the Power sword in the character upgrade set. it will probably show up slightly bent. I would just bend it back with warm water or just not use it. its pretty thin and could break on your model down the road.

the transfer sheets are great. you couldnt really ask for more with them.

Do note, your Imperial Armour books come with posters.

All the new space marine kits I have order have been very well cast and have had no warping and minimal moldlines and flashing. I have found that GW Chaos Black applies very well to FW resin and have had no issues with paint sticking to the figures.

Vehicles require a little bit more work and often require some work to get proper fitment. either bending stuff slowly with warm water or with some minor greenstuff work.

Garven Dreis
08-01-2011, 02:13
Well I've just finished building a FW Valdor Tank Hunter, and it's pretty impressive. My only issue was that one side was pretty damaged when I got it, but I managed to repair it and now it looks sweet.

Mage
09-01-2011, 03:38
@ ilikebmxbikes

I will keep that in mind with the power sword. I have high hopes for the transfer sheets. I have a full battle company to put transfers on, so they will be useful. I really like the infantry stuff they are doing, especially with the space marines. I am tempted to get the different marks of armour, and at some point in future a Caestus and that Land Raider with the hull thunder fire cannon.

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As a side note, I checked the status of the order, and its now 'shipped'. Can't wait til it gets here. I hope it won't be too long!

Mage
14-01-2011, 03:38
Have my order, and I am very impressed with the Badab war books, but moreso with volume 2. And I got my conversion kit, all clipped off, trimmed, and washed. Just need to give it another go over with some soapy water and a toothbrush.

There are so many cool things in the books, but at the moment I am being tempted by doing armies of: Carcharodons, Minotaurs, and Sons of Medusa.

Sildani
14-01-2011, 13:56
Just a funny bit to report: ordered a Falcon II conversion kit at around 3:30AM Eastern US time. The order's status was "Fully Shipped" by 8:00AM. I'll let you all know when it shows up. 'Cause THAT'S turnaround time!

angelofrage
23-03-2011, 15:10
I've just received my 1st FW order, which is Lufgt Huron. It's cast perfectly. Tiny bit of flash and the tabs on the arms, but other than having to wash it, it's less prep work than I've found with recent Metal/Plastic figures.

I've not made my mind up yet on what to get next pay day. LR Achilles or Caestus Assault Ram. I'm worried that with such a large amount of resin, there is more chance for things to go wrong, but alot of that is horror stories you see on line. My own experience with FW so far has been great :)

Mage
25-03-2011, 05:11
@ Sildani

Cool. When I got my Badab War book 2 it was signed by the author.

@angleofrage

I found that my character conversion kit was fine, but I lost the plasma pistol down the sink (cleaning accident).

I have been tempted by both, but I think I may get the Achilles sooner. If your worried about the kits being bigger, horror stories, and amount of resin, I think the Land Raider is a normal land raider kit with some resin add ons, as oppossed to the entire Caeustus which is all resin (as far as I am aware).

Go Astral Claws!

-Loki-
25-03-2011, 05:20
I'm worried that with such a large amount of resin, there is more chance for things to go wrong, but alot of that is horror stories you see on line. My own experience with FW so far has been great :)

I got a Hierophant, which has a lot of parts, big and small. There's some minor issues - some of the head join is filled in a bit with resin, a small part of the inner torso has a lump of resin on it. The worst is the front legs are a bit rough and some detail is filled in.

Nothing that can't be repaired, and I'm certainly not going to ask Forgeworld 3months after ordering it when I finally noticed for something that small.

I really should crack out the sandpaper, mask and dremel and get to building the thing.

Gir
25-03-2011, 05:36
I've not made my mind up yet on what to get next pay day. LR Achilles or Caestus Assault Ram. I'm worried that with such a large amount of resin, there is more chance for things to go wrong, but alot of that is horror stories you see on line. My own experience with FW so far has been great :)

Land Raider Achilles is 90% plastic. Probably a good stop gap between small and large resin models (Just be warned the the instructions are TERRIBLE and you need to know how to build a land raider without instructions to do this kit properly).