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x-esiv-4c
15-02-2011, 16:20
(in the US)

Is it legal for a company to tell its employees how to vote on state / federal matters? is it legal for a company to coerce its employees to write into their congressman to benefit the company in monetary / contract terms?

Thanks.

Thud
15-02-2011, 16:29
I'm not an expert, but I'm gonna go ahead and guess no.

Bloodknight
15-02-2011, 18:20
How the F could that be legal in a western democracy?

N810
15-02-2011, 18:23
Very illegial.
probaly falls under Coercion.
Or at the very least voter fraud.

x-esiv-4c
15-02-2011, 18:30
That being the case, could anyone possibly cite a legal document referencing this?

nightgant98c
15-02-2011, 18:35
I'd find a lawyer and ask them about it. If the lawyer is also in politics (not uncommon for political types to be lawyers) even better. I'm not sure if what you are talking about is actually illegal, but I'm pretty sure it is. No one is supposed to influence your voting. That's why supporters can't be too close to polling places.

N810
15-02-2011, 19:21
This might help...


opps I meant this link.
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Vote_fraud

enyoss
15-02-2011, 19:53
I'd speak to your union official if you have one. I'm sure there's no way they can force you to do this though.

EDIT: How would they know how you voted anyway?

tezdal
15-02-2011, 22:20
While I don't think they can actually tell you how to vote, back in the old days I know they'd say "if so and so gets elected your all out the job" blah blah, thinking late 19th century though

x-esiv-4c
16-02-2011, 11:15
Enyoss, talking about unions is a fireable offense where I work.
Nevertheless, the vote is today so we'll see what happens.

Serpent
16-02-2011, 12:48
No-one is allowed to force you to vote this way or another. This is one fo the basics of democracy.

(And firing someone for talking about unions would cause a company a world of hurt in Sweden. This would sort under the individual's right to join any club/union he or she wishes.)

[lexus]
16-02-2011, 16:20
Hell no, whats the point of a democracy if someone tells you what you must vote. Might as well just throw the constitution out of the window and stop doing elections.

And what kind of job do you have where you cant talk about unions?

x-esiv-4c
16-02-2011, 16:45
Aerospace Design Engineer, very very large aerospace company.

Jonathan =I=
18-02-2011, 04:54
So possibly Boeing or Lockheed Martin Corp are coercing employees how to vote on state / federal matters in a certain manner.

It’s illegal in Australia and I would be surprised if it wasn’t in the US.
http://www.fairwork.gov.au/complaints/coercion-and-workplace-rights/pages/default.aspx
The US department of labor site is here.
http://www.dol.gov/dol/rights-benefits.htm

RobC
18-02-2011, 09:22
The media would probably love to hear about anything like that. If anything bad happens, you have that in your back pocket.

x-esiv-4c
18-02-2011, 11:02
Neither Boeing nor Lockheed.

simonr1978
18-02-2011, 20:41
So possibly Boeing or Lockheed Martin Corp are coercing employees how to vote on state / federal matters in a certain manner.

It’s illegal in Australia and I would be surprised if it wasn’t in the US.
http://www.fairwork.gov.au/complaints/coercion-and-workplace-rights/pages/default.aspx
The US department of labor site is here.
http://www.dol.gov/dol/rights-benefits.htm

Could also be Northrop-Grumman, General Dynamics or Bell-Sikorsky, just off the top of my head. That said, I'd consider further speculation largely pointless as I seriously doubt x-esiv-4c is likely to confirm it anyway.

Culgore
20-02-2011, 00:45
eh, It doesn't seem right but if you look at what allegedly took place in Nevada in the most recent senate race it seems like you can get away with just about anything short of actually paying people to vote.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44575.html

don't think this lawsuit amounted to anything, but who knows. Really when it comes down to it your employer will never know who you vote for so do what you want, but you are an adult and you know that.

Lt.Bradford
20-02-2011, 01:34
(in the US)

Is it legal for a company to tell its employees how to vote on state / federal matters? is it legal for a company to coerce its employees to write into their congressman to benefit the company in monetary / contract terms?

Thanks.

It really depends on how things fall. They can't follow you to the ballot or anything or fire you for not voting their way, and most states have laws against it. The question is does this come from a written report or are they directly telling employees. How they are telling its employees is part of the issue.


Anyone can ask others to write to their congressman for money, AFAIK. It's part of the job of a local Congressman to get requests from the constituency. However, shouldn't the company have its own contact with the representative? And if this company is one of the big Aerospacers then they should have no problem with lobbying in Congress, even with all the budget cuts.

I need more details.