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Steel_Legion
03-04-2006, 19:03
Just thought up a mock list but looking for more opinions on it:
Hero’s

Paladin 60
Questing Vow 8
Great Weapon 4
Shield 2
Warhorse 14
Virtue of Impetuous Knight 35 123

Paladin 60
Warhorse 14 74

Damsel 70
Level 2 35
Warhorse 10
Dispel Scroll 25 140

Damsel 70
Chalice of Malfleur 20 90

Core

8 Knights of the Realm 192
Musician 8
Standard Bearer 16
Banner of Chalon 10 226

*8 Knights of the Realm 192
Musician 8
Standard Bearer 16
Conquerors Tapestry 25 241

*8 Knights of the Realm 192
Musician 8
Standard Bearer 16 216

8 Errant Knights 160
Musician 7
Standard Bearer 14
Errantry Banner 20 201

*16 Peasant Bowmen 96
Musician 5
Standard Bearer 10
Villein 5
Braziers 5 121

*16 Peasant Bowmen 96
Musician 5
Standard Bearer 10
Villein 5
Skirmish 16 132

*16 Men-at-Arms (spears) 80
Musician 5
Standard Bearer 10
Yeoman Warden 12 107

*16 Men-at-Arms (halberds) 80
Musician 5
Standard Bearer 10
Yeoman Warden 12 107

Special

*6 Pegasus Knights 330
Musician 10
Standard Bearer 20 360

Rare

*Trebuchet 90
Peasant Craftsmen 10 100

Total =2238
This army is basically what i have already, plus 2 battalions and a trebuchet, it seems pretty sound to me, but i cant help but feel i lack spcial knights etc, im trying to keep the price as low as possible, does anyone have any changes you think would benefit me, keep in mind i want the cost low so no posts like "buy 15 grail knight" as i dont want to spend £75 on 15guys, not yet anyway:D

The Devil's Right Hand
04-04-2006, 03:41
honestly though, i'm not talking about Grail Knights. Questing knights are amazing!

a block of 9 gets 8 attack on the charge. lets say you are fighting a block of 20 saurus (one hard regiment, few harder: except emp w/ detach, and chaos in big #'s). ws 4 means you hit on a 3, so you'll get about 6 hits. str 6 means wounding on 2's, so you'll get 5 wounds with no armor save. no attacks back.
then: you have 5 kills, 2 ranks, 1 banner and outnumber. they have 0 kills, 3 ranks and a banner. you have 8 v.s their 4. that drops the LD of those guys to 4 with cold blooded. thats about a 75% break. if you drop a hero with them it jumps to a Resolution of 10 v 4, so they need snake-eyes. nearly an auto break with a frontal charge.

6 peg knights is too many, they won't all fit when they charge. 4 is a rad number cuz you can still take fire and be okay. i like 3. they don't need a banner either. if they flank a reg, you should already have another banner in from a lance or MAA block.

16 men at arms won't stop anything. take 20 if you want them to tie up a unit in combat (with knights nearby of course) 25 if you want them to take fire and get in a real fight.

don't take full command with the skirmishing bowmen, they skirmish for the purpose to really not get into a fistfight.

LD 9 with a lord is rad. really it is. it helps a lot, and all the virtues get WAY better with a better statline. also, if you want to take a lord cheep, you can get away with 200 pts.

good magic defense man.

i like the abundance of the Knights of the realm, but 2 lances of KOTR should be enough for 2k- 2.5k.

i jock your trebuchet. good choice.

i feel your pain on the pocket book. but the real fact is that you should always take what you want and what will be useful rather than what is dollar/pound/euro effective. the joy of a massacre will make up for those few points. - try finding someone to play 1k's and 1.5k's until you get those extra bucks down the road.

hope it helps.

Steel_Legion
04-04-2006, 10:19
it does help! il will try and base this around your advise, i have a test play game against a mate next week, so i can throw down a few different lists and see what one palys well, only objection is that atm i cant really spare £50 for 9questing knights, i only started the army last week so i want to get the core down and use that as much as possible, but in time those questing knights will find a home in my frontline. thanks mate!

Steel_Legion
20-04-2006, 22:12
PLayed against an empire player last week, minor victory, and an ogre kingdom guy this week, massacre! i lost 4 knights and 1 Man at arms! so i liek this army.. alot! (changed it a little, now theres a lord instead of 1 paladin but one less KoTR)

oma
20-04-2006, 23:00
i would agree on Devils Right hand on some points, what does the Men at arms realy do? what is their work?

i like that you have Kotr rather than errants, the WS 4 is SO much better

Steel_Legion
21-04-2006, 18:16
my MAA act as bait, they decplare charge, i flee leaving them exposed, or a counter charge, harberds mean hitting at S4