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JG3
14-07-2011, 19:10
how do you beat high Elfs ?

cptcosmic
14-07-2011, 19:34
I take a large blunt object and smash it in their skinny faces? :D

warplock
14-07-2011, 20:00
I usually find that a mixture of combat, magic and shooting does the trick...
...On a serious note, they hit hard and accurately but they can't take a hit back, either in combat or from shooting. When they attack they must coordinate to overwhelm their targets before getting the hell out of there, because they wilt under sustained pressure.

Dark Aly
14-07-2011, 21:30
either steadfast units to bog down their elites or elite well armoured troops.

It would help if we knew which army/armies you use.

King_Pash
14-07-2011, 23:25
how do you beat high Elfs ?

With a stick :)

Kloud13
15-07-2011, 05:18
Shoot them with...anything. and cast "Dweller's Below". the ASF is only good if they make it into combat.

Trains_Get_Robbed
15-07-2011, 07:48
Burn it with fire.

cptcosmic
15-07-2011, 08:47
either steadfast units to bog down their elites or elite well armoured troops.
HE can usually destroy such hordes in a single combo charge if done right unless the unit is really tough but then the losses will be still devasting.

sninsch
15-07-2011, 09:38
What Army do you play?

very short: Shooting, Magic, chariots, combo charges work!

Dark Aly
15-07-2011, 10:33
HE can usually destroy such hordes in a single combo charge if done right unless the unit is really tough but then the losses will be still devasting.

Spearmen and swordmasters yes. but white lions and pheonix guard, no. You should be out numbering high elfs and so use your surpluss units to block combo charges.

Still need to know what army the OP uses

cptcosmic
15-07-2011, 11:54
Spearmen and swordmasters yes. but white lions and pheonix guard, no. You should be out numbering high elfs and so use your surpluss units to block combo charges.

Still need to know what army the OP uses
there is always a way to great combo charges, e.g. units with small frontage coupled with lion chariots. the chariots only needs an edge to fight for full effect and other units can be slowed down with great chickens. you dont always need flanks for combo charges and horde units offer enough space to bring alot of units in contact at front. in short: what does outnumbering help when I charge the horde with enough to break in its first close combat and then free reform to face the right direction?

Jormi_Boced
15-07-2011, 18:13
Lore of Light does a good job.

Ghazbad_Facestompa
16-07-2011, 05:22
My tactics against high elves are very simple. They can be summed up as: WAAAGH! Chop da panzy gits an' frow em in da stewpot!

winterking07
16-07-2011, 09:23
in short: what does outnumbering help when I charge the horde with enough to break in its first close combat and then free reform to face the right direction?

So don't deploy in horde formation. Or reform in one of your turns so that the former horde is now narrow + deep. If HE are taking steadfast away, it's usually because their opponent has made a mistake.

(for example, take 40 [anything] in 4X10 vs Swordmasters. If there are multiple ranks of Swordmasters, and we assume that every single one hits, wounds, and kills, you'll lose 22 models. You still have 18--3 ranks, which is probably equal or greater than the number of Swordmasters. And if even two of those 22 survived, you have a fourth rank.)

Von Wibble
16-07-2011, 11:08
Definately true. For this reason, the high elf players job is to ensure that the swordmsaters are supported when making the charge - chariots are the best for this with their narrow frontage, but monster mounted characters can also be an option. They also attempt to use their (usually stronger) magic to ensure the enemy is weakened in some way, or they are strengthened, be it with magic missiles, buffs or hexes.

And therefore, to beat high elves, your best option is to concentrate fire (shooting, magic etc) on these type of units, and make sure your magic defense is as solid as possible. The simple fact is that high elf elites look great on paper, but lose combat in the long run against virtually every enemy unit thanks to steadfast, 2 ranks striking, and high elf T3.

Compared to some armies imo High elves are not that powerful. They give armies without any shooting (VC, WOC), or those in desperate need of an update (Brets, Ogres) a hard time but otherwise struggle. Unless Teclis turns up oc.