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Ubik_Lives
12-04-2006, 14:10
Well, after battling with my old digital camera, I've finally worked out how to get it to take some decent pictures of the guys I am working on, although the picture quality does leave a little to be desired.

The theme for my army can be found in the following link. Nothing has really changed from that list, although I am thinking of replacing the Hellhound with a couple of Rhinos for the grenade launcher stormtroopers.
Link to my list (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28834)

So now onto the models. Most of the Spyre suits aren't being changed. I figure they look good the way they are, and haven't come up with any ideas for how to make them better (These are their models on the GW online store: Here (http://store.us.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.us?do=List_Models&code=303987&orignav=300817&GameNav=300808). The only one I wasn't happy with was the Patriach. He's basically my commander, so I want him to look good, and the fatman, kneeless, woodstove look of the current model just didn't do it for me. I'm no master converter, but I think I've managed to come out with a decent replacement.
Frontish View (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Apr1220.jpg)
Front View (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Apr1201.jpg)
Side View (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/9be5ab54.jpg)
Rear View (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/4f97377b.jpg)

The deep striking Stormtroopers were fairly simple conversions. Grav chutes, elbow pad, and a Tau sholder pad. Nothing that special.
A couple of them (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Apr1221.jpg)

The Grenadiers were a little bit more complex. Tau sholder and leg pads, elbow and knee pads, a reworked gun, and some Forgeworld parts didn't make for easy or quick conversions. Still, I think they turned out well. It probably would have been cheaper to just use Karskins like for the other Stormtroopers, but they were originally guys with carapace armour.
A few of them (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/685a7067.jpg)

My combat medics were fairly simple. Three of them are just standard models that haven't been changed (bar removing Imperial icons). There are a couple of medic drones, that were just drones with Wraith arms, and some doodads for the Apothecary's backpack.
Group Photo (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/4d53a33e.jpg)

And everyone needs a heroic squad to kill that vital squad and capture that object just before the game ends. Unfortuantly, it's not this squad because their transport keeps getting blown up in my own deployment zone. But if that didn't happen, then maybe that would be this squad. Their weapons are modelled after the SAS weapons in Battlefield 2: Special Forces. I was playing that game a little too much when I started making these guys.
Anti-tank, Assault, and Special Forces (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/278b9a01.jpg)
Support and Engineer (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/76273a48.jpg)
Medic and Sniper (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/2ade8bf3.jpg)

And their ride is mostly complete. It needs some doodads and for the edges to be smoothed out, but it's basically done. I'll make two more up for the other two Chimeras.
Side Shot (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Apr1219.jpg)
Frontish Shot (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/ce00342b.jpg)
Down the barrel shot (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/7fa5e93e.jpg)

Well that's all I've done now. Unless I can think up some more conversions, or some for the Spyre suits, the infantry are almost done. I haven't started on the tanks yet, and am thinking up ways to make the Rhinos look modern. I'll have to start painting them up soon...can't put that off forever.

Feedback and ideas are very welcome!

Dawn of the Dogs
12-04-2006, 14:15
i like your BF2 inspired troops, the DAO-12 guy looks awesome!

scrubout
12-04-2006, 14:28
Please explain how you made the chimera turret. As much as I like my predator turret switches on my own two chimera, I can't help but feel they are a little too cliche and unfluffy to an extent...Just looking for new chimera turret methods that's all! Thanks.

It all looks wicked awesome too.

-peace out
scrubout:skull:

firestorm40k
12-04-2006, 16:45
Excellent! Really digging these conversions, especially how you've altered the Lasguns to make them look more like Assault Rifles. Cool stuff! :cool:

Ubik_Lives
13-04-2006, 00:57
Thanks for the comments guys. As for the chimera turret, that's a bit of a cheat. It's a combination of a predator turret (for the gun and hatch) and a Kitech 1/48 Bradley. The kit is pretty cheap but hard to find. Your best bet is eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Kitech-1-48-U-S-Army-M2-BRADLEY-VEHICLE-08M-520_W0QQitemZ6050046998QQcategoryZ2587QQssPageName ZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem).

Once you have it, it takes a little cutting to get the gun in, and some green stuff work to fill in gaps, but it look fairly good for a four dollar tank.

Inquisitor Konig
13-04-2006, 21:00
i really love all converted guard armies. yours looks great and i cant waite to see some painted models!

Epoch
13-04-2006, 23:52
Ha, I love the bf2 guard. Awesome.

Warboss Garfang
14-04-2006, 00:29
The Bradley turreted Chimera is really good, combines the 40k universe and a current tank design quite nicely.

Also a big fan of most of your guns, although it does look like some of your greenstuff can be cleaned up, that's just nitpicking.

asmodai_dark86
14-04-2006, 00:48
I dont like the tank, but the rest...

I dont know. I really dont. I'll wait till i've seen a few more, then decide whether Ill wait to see them painted instead :D

Ubik_Lives
20-04-2006, 07:54
Well, I didn't get as much free time as I would have liked this week, but I have painted a quick tester model. I'm a little unsure about the paint scheme...any ideas to improve it would be appreciated.

Front (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Apr2006.jpg)
Side (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Apr2005.jpg)
Other Side (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Apr2003.jpg)
Rear (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Apr2004.jpg)

El Jefe
21-04-2006, 04:42
Needs a little bit of highlighting on the armour and helmet if you ask me. The respirator needs a bit more shading as well, to bring out the detail. Other than that, looks pretty good, the camo in particular is very simple yet effective. You might want to consider adding a third color to it, or perhaps changing the color of the gun, just to break things up a little. :)

Ubik_Lives
21-04-2006, 19:41
Well I'm not all that great at highlighting, but I'll give it a try. I think I'll do the guns in black as well. I'm going to do the special weapons in black so they'll blend in more this way.

Serpine
22-04-2006, 21:50
I'm extremely fond of your medic drones myself. Shame Tau don't have medics: I could just imagine one of those fussing around a Fire Warrior unit...

Ubik_Lives
27-04-2006, 06:28
Well, I'm not sure if many people are still following how I'm going, but one more post for luck.

My first Grenadiers squad is now painted up, bar the Spyre's face. I need some pink paint rather than trying to make some out of red and white.

The Squad (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Apr2702.jpg)
Another Squad Pic (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Apr2701.jpg)
Special Weapons and Spyre (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Apr2703.jpg)
Regular Troopers (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Apr2704.jpg)

Ubik_Lives
20-08-2006, 07:18
I know this thread died out a while back, but I thought I'd drag it back up for those few people who did comment. I've actually finished my army now (barring a varnish), so I thought I'd show the changes that were made between now and then. I won't run you through each individual squad and model, because many look the same as they did then, only with bases. But here goes:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2008.jpg

And here we see the new bases. I've gone for Epicast bases, with a mix of regular, urban, ash wastes, and a few cobblestone on certain squads.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2009.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2012.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2014.jpg

Special weapons were redone to give them a more Tau feel to them. Most were pretty easy swaps, with the grenade launcher missile pods being the only ones that I really had to think about when designing the conversion.

Darkseer
20-08-2006, 07:21
That's given me a great idea.

fire warrior bodies with forgeworld gasmasked cadian heads.

Ubik_Lives
20-08-2006, 07:23
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2011.jpg

Now what would a Tau army be without some drones? I made up four of these energy stubber guys to tag along with the scout squads and deep strikers. They just count as a regular storm trooper, but I thought it would help with the Tau feel.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2022.jpg

My big commander got an upgrade! Now sporting a larger helmet and arms, he's a bit more impressive on the battlefield. He should be a fairly large target for enemy characters, however I'm not sure if that's a good thing, since he's just a one wound Brother-Captain.
Side View (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2023.jpg)
Rear View (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2024.jpg)
Size Comparison with a regular trooper (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2025.jpg)

Ubik_Lives
20-08-2006, 07:27
But wait I hear you say, if my commander is bigger, surely his parner in crime must be as well! After all the Inquisitor wasn't that big to start off with, and she was supposed to act as a diversionary character to the Brother-Captain who could actually kill things. Indeed she has!

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2026.jpg

She now sports Lightning Claws, Aritificer Armour, and has a Digital Weapon drone following her around. She's not quite as beefy as the Brother-Captain, but still looks fairly important. Also her nickname has changed from Ninja Chick to Samus. My Brother Captain is still Fatman though, in honour of the Patriach model he is based on.
Side View (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2027.jpg)

Ubik_Lives
20-08-2006, 07:35
To people with 56k modems, I apologise. But the show must go on, and I'm a bit too lazy to go back to photobucket and redo these pictures. Anyway, once I'm done, that'll be it for this thread, barring any nice comments you want to write me. Considering it's taken me half a year to make this army, nice comments will be very much appreciated.

Now the scout squads were originally in Rhinos, which displaced the Hellhound and something I've forgotten. Ah yes, the Grey Knights. These were then replaced by a couple of Sharpshooting Anti-Tank Teams. They don't have carapace armour since they are essentially field artillery, and don't have the heavier gear or weapons that the regular troops get.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2031.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2029.jpg

Again with some more drones to tie the army back to the whole Tau theme that apparently didn't come off very well the first time. They have some Lasgun Drones to ward off enemies, and Marker Drones to help with their aim. Also they have Railguns on Drone bases. I think people should get the Tau theme now.
Another Pic (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2030.jpg)
And Another (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2028.jpg)
One more (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2032.jpg)

Ubik_Lives
20-08-2006, 07:41
Some may remember the Bradley that was being worked on before. Well they've been painted up.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2033.jpg

It's no longer as visible that half of the Chimera is plasticard and greenstuff. Well, it is, but now it's under paint. People who didn't like the design before probably won't like it now, but I think it works. They still don't yell out Tau to people, but I just couldn't really make that work. Tau don't have tracked vehicles, so I just made the vehicles as modern looking as I could.

Side Shot (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2034.jpg)
Rear Shot (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2035.jpg)

Ubik_Lives
20-08-2006, 07:47
Speaking of tanks, the Vanquishers are yet to be unveiled. Like the Chimeras they do have a foriegn turret, this time from a 1:48 Leopard 2. Then a lot of plasticard is used to remake the Russ hull design so it's longer and not quite as tall. There is still most of Russ underneath that, but it did take a little explaining to get the GW staff to agree to let me use it in the store. Apparently they take a model by model view, rather that seeing the vast amount of money I've already sunk into this army in their name and ignoring two heavily converted tanks. Their main problem was that they didn't realise I made the hull.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2036.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2038.jpg

Rear Shot (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2039.jpg)

Ubik_Lives
20-08-2006, 07:56
Now I hear you saying "But Steve, what happens if you face a Witch Hunters army? Without some adversaries, you human traitor army will have no reason to fight them!". Fear not, for I also have thought of this. I have built up a Rogue Pysker and an Apostate Cardinal with his Potifex Guard. You may not the subtle painting of the Cardinal and his Guard as red/black, rather than the blue/grey of the army. When people see the redness of the Cardinal and his Imperial insignia, they'll think "Hey, that guy isn't blue like the Tau. Despite his clear xeno-friendly overtones, I think I'll listen to him!". The Rogue Psyker is wearing blue because it matches his glowing eyes and mouth. He's a bit more fashion smart that the others.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2020.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2015.jpg

Rear of the Psyker (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2016.jpg)
More of the Guard (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2019.jpg)
Rear of the Cardinal and Guard (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2021.jpg)

Ubik_Lives
20-08-2006, 08:01
Now you may be wondering what happened to Ninja Chick. Well, she was demoted somewhat. Last GT there was a mission requiring the use of three commados, so in case I need them again, I've built up some. She gets to be part of the team, along with a couple of models that could stand in as an Eversor and a Vindicare. I guess that means I now have a couple of assassins and a useless model, but ah well, such is life.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2006.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2004.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2001.jpg

Rear Shot of Ninja Chick (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2007.jpg)
Rear Shot of Eversor (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2005.jpg)
Side Shot of Vindicare (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2002.jpg)

Dais
20-08-2006, 08:04
i love it all but the chimera. i dont hate the chimera but it just has no place in my heart like the rest. truly great modeling here.

Ubik_Lives
20-08-2006, 08:05
Well, that's pretty much it from me. I know this hasn't been the ideal project log, but maybe next time I'll do a better job of frequent updates and not getting disheartened halfway through.

Still, I'd like to thank everyone who took time to write comments and suggestions, and even to those people who just stopped by to have a look. Any comments or questions (or even suggestions!) would still be very much appreciated.

- Steve

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Ubik_Lives/Aug2044.jpg

ArtificerArmour
20-08-2006, 12:48
Some great stuff, shame you've got the scrollbar of doom going on :p

So it counts as a grey knights army?

Ubik_Lives
20-08-2006, 16:20
Thanks. It's an IG Grenadiers army with some Grey Knights added in for good measure. There are 3 Grenadier teams with Chimeras, 2 Anti-tank teams, a weaponless command squad, two deep striking Storm Trooper Teams and two Vanquishers on the IG side, and a Brother Captain, an Inquisitor, and two Storm Trooper squads on the Deamon Hunters side.

Bronka
21-08-2006, 02:33
Well, I didn't get as much free time as I would have liked this week, but I have painted a quick tester model. I'm a little unsure about the paint scheme...any ideas to improve it would be appreciated.


Erm, make it less grey? I quite like your conversions but that paint scheme doesn't exactly jump out at me, to say the least.

Maybe with some highlighting it would look better, but I think at the very least you need some other colour (black maybe?) to break up the vast areas of grey. At the moment that looks like a one-colour paint scheme to me.

In all honesty though, I think this army would look better in a more traditional Tau colour scheme. But they're your miniatures, and at the end of the day if you're happy with them that really is the main thing.

Ubik_Lives
21-08-2006, 04:26
Since the tester model the guns have now been painted black, and they grey plates gotten a bit of a fortress grey highlight. I think the black guns help, because they hide the grey chest plate, so the grey armour seems to be in equal proportions to the camo blue cloth.

I'll admit that I have had a few comments about the greyness of the troopers, but our cityfight table is very grey, so it seemed the logical choice.

Looking back at the pictures, it would seem some anti-tank members missed out on their highlights. I may go fix that up now.