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GomezAddams
05-10-2011, 16:23
So as some may or may not know, I recently won a rather stunning competition run by Tor gaming for one of every single product that they produce - what does that mean? Well, it means today all this turned up!

http://i52.tinypic.com/j0fp5c.jpg

Thats enough for both me and Mrs Addams to have what amounts to a starter of each faction - what a great way to kick off the drive away from GW product. So, too much wordage, onto the tins!

I'll be cracking open the starter set I've wanted for awhile now first :D

http://i54.tinypic.com/33tqouq.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/2eojr5f.jpg

The packaging is superb. When I first saw it I really had my doubts but now I've had a chance to feel it and play with it I can understand why they went with it. It kind of reminds me of what Malifaux do but.. in a better way. The Malifaux boxes are nice but they simply aren't strong enough, and because the models are only cushioned to the side, they can bounce up and down or bash into one another. This 'tin' is actually plastic, with padding at both the top and bottom, meaning that the models can move freely if squished, but are securely held together inside - and it looks pretty too, which is nice.

I've actually just tossed one of the sets around (sorry Gavin!) and theres barely any movement of the figures at all, so two thumbs up from me. My only criticism is that it isn't resealable, but the lid does sit in the tin quite nicely once opened so as long as your not tossing it around a second time, it should be fine for storage.

Here's what meets you inside the package

http://i55.tinypic.com/1zyzvgl.jpg

And a close up of one of Varbres

http://i53.tinypic.com/vet0tl.jpg

Now, a big part of my day job is checking of errors in metal castings, and I've been praised for my attention to detail (I've even been told I'm too strict on castings). Now on a kit with this many parts you'd usually expect some kind of minor flaw - a large mould line, a missing part, a soft edge, inclusions, but.. nothing. I've gone through 4 of the 6 Varbres models I was sent and haven't seen an error yet. Now that ladies and gentlemen, is impressive.

As for the model itself, I do have some concerns about small parts. The connections are very small but looking at ranges like Malifaux/puppet wars, Infinity, and freebooter small parts is becoming the norm and I don't think anyone with some basic modelling experience would struggle. Personally, the freedom to pose the model in a dozen different ways is fantastic. I could have a dozen of these and non would look the same.


So yes, so far, extremely impressed. I expect this to be the norm for all three 'tins' however if anyone wants a similar break down for the other figures showing parts or whatever please just ask and I'll sort it out.


Right, I'm off - I have more tins to open!

Daniel36
05-10-2011, 16:38
Dude, that is sick! Congrats on winning that! Good luck on painting it up. Would love to see what you are going to do to it.

loveless
05-10-2011, 16:38
Man I love those Vaettir models. The packaging is surprisingly cool as well.

Thanks for posting this up, Gomez - I'll be watching it.

EmperorNorton
05-10-2011, 16:44
Nice haul.
I'm not familiar with that line of miniatures, but it will be interesting getting to know it through this log.
I dig the idea of a starter set in a can.

leonmallett
05-10-2011, 20:18
Looking forwards to see how this plog develops. :)

GomezAddams
05-10-2011, 21:34
Thanks everyone :D Stay tuned, I'm hoping to keep this fairly regular until the painting starts in earnest.

To be honest I don't know a massive amount about the game - theres a ton of fluff and stories I haven't read but I've had my eye on the Vaettir for some time and the Brittannan Marksmen are really nice.

Lets start off with a scale picture of my first three built models :D

http://i55.tinypic.com/5fi3ac.jpg

And a better picture of the Varbres

http://i56.tinypic.com/2eyuv83.jpg

The wings are a pain in the rear. They will definately need to be pinned for regular gaming but I really wanted to get them built to see what they looked like the flesh. I'm glad its a ball joint though - if it were a peg joint, you'd have casting issues and it'd be fixed so any other pose would just look weird. Whats also quite nice is that I think I could paint these as one piece. I was initially concerned I'd have to glue the wings on later but... nope, should be fine.

Anyway thats three built, only another... 54 models to go.

:D

Little Joe
06-10-2011, 21:58
Ah you lucky git!

Looking good, they did not have those cans when I got my Britanan starter but I must say they sure look good.

I hope the Nuem turn out really nice because I will need (at least) a second force and I am torn between waiting and getting some vaettir or orcnar.

Looking forward to see more.

Tor Gaming
07-10-2011, 20:21
Great stuff, looking forward to watching your progress!!!!!!

GomezAddams
03-11-2011, 00:08
LITTLE JOE - Theres some Nuem previews on the TG forum, and they look mighty swish. Personally though I'd get some Vaettir for now as the Nuem I believe aren't popping up soon. That and the Vaettir are easily some of the most flexable models in terms of build and painting options I've seen since I picked up my first tactical squad many many moons ago.

TOR GAMING - Thanks bud :D

Right it may appear that I have been incredibly lazy, and that would be for the most part true. I've been concentrating on painting recently and with the malifaux bits all built I ploughed on. Combine that with a rather hefty OU assignment on Cezanne, and I've just not had the time.

However I finished the first assignment tonight and finally got to get this built as its been racking around my head for weeks.

http://i42.tinypic.com/mvixzt.jpg

I haven't decided whether or not I want to carve out the front of the rock and add the second marksman, but I'll decide that once the putty has set tomorrow. The Huntuwalus legs aren't on yet as I need to completely re-position them which is going to involve more pins then a bowling alley. But its so going to be worth it :D

Whitwort Stormbringer
03-11-2011, 04:48
You lucky bum! I'll be watching this thread for updates, I love the Relics range.

GomezAddams
10-11-2011, 22:17
Thanks bud :)

Tiny update not I've got it mostly built!

http://i40.tinypic.com/1zlqfdj.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/16bbsdw.jpg

I've had this in my head in various forms since I first saw the Huntawalu concept art. Suffice to say, getting him posed like that was a complete nightmare. Trying to think out how a four legged creature would move up the rock, with limited space, and having to repose the legs accordingly was a bit of a headache which is why he's been lighting sprayed. I'm going to rip the arms and head off, file, sand, and fill the body, and then pin everything else on just in case as he's quite a large figure.

Suffice to say, Huntawalu 2 will not be getting reposed at all..

Okay just a little

Tor Gaming
10-11-2011, 22:29
That is looking ace!!

You should be posting this in a wip thread on our forum too!!!

Little Joe
10-11-2011, 23:00
Great use of that marksmens head, it gives the total piece a lot of character and story.
I say yes to pinning and some green stuff where needed as it is time well invested.

leonmallett
12-11-2011, 10:29
I really look forwards to seeing how this progresses. Cool stuff. :)

Whitwort Stormbringer
13-11-2011, 02:16
Ha, love the expression on that poor Britanan doll's face! Vaettir really are cool, that Huntawalu looks very imposing.

Lost Egg
15-12-2011, 06:49
Nice diorama. Great little review of the starter sets too.

HN

GomezAddams
11-03-2012, 23:17
Thanks for all the comments guys. As you'll see, I haven't done much on the Huntawalu, but as he hasn't broke I won't be bothering to pin him. I'm finally getting going again slowly - I'm incredibly lazy sometimes and Malifaux seems to have been chewing up all my time recently but little joe has inspired me :)

http://i40.tinypic.com/15x02ky.jpg

I've picked up some flourescent paints for some nice glowing eyes, but to keep the natural blending I'll be using an airbrush to do pretty much everything on these.

I also haven't pinned anything - what I've done is use plenty of glue, let it dry, and applies more glue to seal the joint completely. Its a little rough and I need to trip around the joints a little, but otherwise there fairly solid.

Anyway thats all for tonight. Once these are done I'll be cracking on with the Brittannans. If you like skirmish gaming maybe you should join the tale of skirmish painters (shameless plug :D links in sig).

Lost Egg
12-03-2012, 17:37
I'm looking forward to seeing these guys painted Gomez. Out of interest how easy is it to paint minis with an airbrush, as opposed to spraying solid block colours?

HN

GomezAddams
12-03-2012, 23:29
Tiny tiny update - I was hoping to get cracking but the glue hasn't dried. Also one of them decided to dive off the desk, which was hillarious. All that extra glue around the joints amounted to nothing as his tiny wings and limbs exploded in four directions.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2zg4ydi.jpg


I'm looking forward to seeing these guys painted Gomez. Out of interest how easy is it to paint minis with an airbrush, as opposed to spraying solid block colours?

It depends what you mean by paint...

Easy is the wrong word. Anythings easy with enough practice and an airbrush is a prime example of one of those tools within the hobby that some people have down to an art form. Les Bursley being a prime example. I started off using it to base coat figures quickly, and then started to experiment with things like chipping, weathering, masking, and undershading. You tend to find control gets better over time as you learn how to mix your paints better, etc. You can also set how big the area is you want to spray on the airbrush which makes things a little easier when your spraying things of a roughly uniform size (such as fairy wings and eyes :D)

Speaking of painting, I'm currently thinking something very close to the official tor gaming scheme but a bit more green - what do you guys think? Any ideas for alternate schemes?

Little Joe
13-03-2012, 00:16
Great some updates at last, I will be going for a dark and light theme (corrupted bright ones). It will most likely be blue/green for the dark and greyish/white for the bright. Many options for additional colour with several unit types.

Yep, these guys are not for throwing around, I drilled out the holes a bit deeper and glued everything on with superglue, then I added some tiny amounts of green stuff where needed for aestetical reasons. It will hold and you can handle them a bit rough but nothing more. Pinning is out of the question mostly, maybe I should have drilled yet a bit deeper and added some green stuff in the joints for better fits. But the models are very nice, something different and organic.

Lost Egg
13-03-2012, 17:18
It depends what you mean by paint...

Easy is the wrong word. Anythings easy with enough practice and an airbrush is a prime example of one of those tools within the hobby that some people have down to an art form. Les Bursley being a prime example. I started off using it to base coat figures quickly, and then started to experiment with things like chipping, weathering, masking, and undershading. You tend to find control gets better over time as you learn how to mix your paints better, etc. You can also set how big the area is you want to spray on the airbrush which makes things a little easier when your spraying things of a roughly uniform size (such as fairy wings and eyes :D)

Thanks for that Gomez, I will just have to continue to gain experience and experiment.

I think your colour scheme would work. I think a richer green would work well too.

HN

Whitwort Stormbringer
15-03-2012, 06:25
I like the sound of green vaettir, what will you do for the eyes though? I feel like with the vaettir it's all about the eyes - need to contrast enough with the skin and it seems like the fluorescent paint will help achieve that effect. I guess if you're tending towards green for the skin I'd lean towards red/orange/yellow for the eyes to make sure they stand out.

Will be interested to see what you come up with.

GomezAddams
18-03-2012, 03:24
Thanks for the comments guys!

Anyway the green thing didn't really work out, in that I went to do it and had a better idea :D

http://i44.tinypic.com/2dv4o6u.jpg
The base color is VMC Offwhite sprayed over halfords grey primer, with focus on the head and joints. The wings were then sprayed with VMA Insignia blue, with particular focus towards the edge of the wings. I also added a touch to the ears and the eyes - the later of which will become a lighting effect. The bases are being sprayed VMC Black Grey, with some slight blending into the legs to emphasise the natural look.

http://i39.tinypic.com/a9tug6.jpg

I'm quite chuffed with how these are turning out. A few spot washes here and there, some gloss on the wings and eyes and some fluroescent blue and they should look really good when finished. Not the natural, wilderness look I was originally going for, but should have an otherworldly alien like quality.

Lost Egg
18-03-2012, 10:41
Looking good Gomez, I especially like the dark blue-black tips of the wings.

HN

Tor Gaming
18-03-2012, 12:48
They look like will be outstanding! I sort of midnight feel to them!

Have you seen this: http://www.torgaming.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,835.0.html

May be of interested to you and the others who are painting starter sets at the moment.

Firah
18-03-2012, 14:31
Wow, they look neat. now I really want to buy an airbrush :D

GomezAddams
18-03-2012, 18:59
HAIRY NORSEMAN - Cheers bud. The black effect is achieved by simply going over with the spray a few more times at the tips if that makes sense (its what I tried to explain very poorly on the last page :D)

TOR GAMING - I had seen it, and its definately a good thing to get people to actually put some paint on the figures (which to be honest is always the hardest part when painting something out of your comfort zone, as is the case here) but a few things held me off jumping in.
The first and main reason is the pace. The Vaettir should be finished this week, which means I'd be painting the Brittanans at around two models a week at the very least which to me, is just far too punishing a pace for doing high quality painting. Besides which Mrs Addams has her eyes on the Britanans and I don't think she'd be impressed if I nabbed them off her painting pile.
Secondly, on top of running the tale of Skirmish painters, Uni work, and scrabbling to get my blog up and running I've started a new job thats pretty draining and its about to go onto shifts meaning that my free time has dried up.
And thirdly, and most importantly, as a painting competition it doesn't appeal to me because I'll be quite happy to buy the Nuem when they start shipping. They look cool and original, so doing if for competitive reasons seems a little wrong - especially given the amount of freebies I'd had already :D

If however, you were to mention Goblin Chocobo knights well... then it'd be on like Donkey Kong :D

FIRAH - Its damn tricky to use one right but if you have the spare cash and you think you've gotten as far as you can with a normal brush, its worth the investment. They take some maintenance but there good fun :)


No updates from me tonight - hopefully tomorrow depending on how bad work is.

leonmallett
18-03-2012, 21:50
Those are cute little minis. :)

Tor Gaming
19-03-2012, 09:52
TOR GAMING - I had seen it, and its definately a good thing to get people to actually put some paint on the figures (which to be honest is always the hardest part when painting something out of your comfort zone, as is the case here) but a few things held me off jumping in.
The first and main reason is the pace. The Vaettir should be finished this week, which means I'd be painting the Brittanans at around two models a week at the very least which to me, is just far too punishing a pace for doing high quality painting. Besides which Mrs Addams has her eyes on the Britanans and I don't think she'd be impressed if I nabbed them off her painting pile.
Secondly, on top of running the tale of Skirmish painters, Uni work, and scrabbling to get my blog up and running I've started a new job thats pretty draining and its about to go onto shifts meaning that my free time has dried up.
And thirdly, and most importantly, as a painting competition it doesn't appeal to me because I'll be quite happy to buy the Nuem when they start shipping. They look cool and original, so doing if for competitive reasons seems a little wrong - especially given the amount of freebies I'd had already :D


It doesn't have to be newly painted. You could enter these bad boys. There has been a few people postinjg updates on painting logs etc so we though we woudl just give them an additional reason.

At the very least, you should repost these onto our fourm so all those that don't visit Warseer can enjoy your outstanding work. Maybe a tutorial article if you have the time.... ;-)

GomezAddams
28-03-2012, 22:18
Leave it with me, I'll see what I can rustle up over the next few weeks however work is seriously kicking my rear - I don't have two days off in a row until late April/early May. Quick question though - do they use stone weapons, metal, or other?

Right, brief update. Here's what I did today when I should have been reading classical greek plays.

http://i44.tinypic.com/8xn6g0.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/dqszrp.jpg

Sorry for the dodgy lighting on the second picture, will try and get something better once there undercoated tomorrow.

GomezAddams
11-09-2012, 22:34
So tomorrow was replaced with being lazy, which carried on for a good six months however...

http://i48.tinypic.com/whi6ba.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2jeqnbt.jpg

Done enough for now I feel. I wanted to clear these out of the way before cracking on properly with my Nuem. At table distance they look quite nice - its only up close that you begin to see that the base hasn't been shaded/highlighted.

Tor also have a sale going on at the moment, 20% of everything Relics with some nice new starter sets too, not to mention the pre-orders (Britanan Highlanders are high on my list - I have plans for a highland force, with kilts a-plenty!). I keep meaning to read the rules to see what exactly I should have as opposed to buying Varriers because they look pretty :D

Little Joe
14-09-2012, 17:19
Nice and bloody, quite eerie to be honest. Nice basing, I like how the snow fits with the paint job.