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Bubble Ghost
14-04-2006, 14:11
Everyone's always accusing GW of "stealing" or "ripping off" things from other sources. I get pretty sick of that moaning myself, since it's not like they're trying to hide it. So for a change, just for fun, what about references to GW stuff in other products? I'm not talking about "rip-offs", even as over-used as that phrase is - any reference at all. I've spotted a couple but I'm sure there must be more. I might compile them into this post if there end up being many of them.


More likely than not:

-Mid-90s video game Rock 'n' Roll Racing featured an engine called the "War Hammer" which was purchasable as an upgrade for 40,000 credits. Can't possibly be a coincidence.

-Similar reference by someone in Warcraft, apparently, who tells you his warhammer cost 40,000 somethings. Dunno, haven't played it.


Possibles:

-The English translation of Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney on the Nintendo DS is packed full of in-jokes and references to other stuff, and was obviously written by geeks (the movie director speaks in 1337, and the Steel Samurai's motto is "for great justice!"). So the fact that they decided to call the anaemic, white-haired, intimidating prosecutor you face in episode 4, who has a voice like the movie trailer guy and dresses like Dracula, "Manfred von Karma" makes you think...


Coincidental similarities (??):

-A set of aliens in one Farscape storyline look very much like the Tau and are called "Pathfinders".




I know I've spotted a few more possibles but I can't remember them at the moment. Oh well. Anyone else?

blackdog
14-04-2006, 15:45
-Similar reference by someone in Warcraft, apparently, who tells you his warhammer cost 40,000 somethings. Dunno, haven't played it.


The use of the word Warhammer is not exclusive to GW.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_hammer
A war hammer is an archaic weapon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon) of war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War) intended for close combat, the design of which resembles the hammer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer). The war hammer consists of, like the tool (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool) it resembles, a handle and a head. The handle may be of different lengths, the longest being roughly equivalent to the halberd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halberd), and the shortest about the same as a mace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mace). Long war hammers were pole weapons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_weapon) (polearms) meant for use against riders, whereas short ones were used in closer quarters and from horseback. Later war hammers often had a spike on one side of the head, thus making it a more versatile weapon. War hammers were developed as a consequence of the ever more prevalent metal armours (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armour) of the medieval battlefields during the 14th (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_century) and 15th centuries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15th_century). The war hammer could deal blows of tremendous force to the target, especially when mounted on a pole, and by impact alone do damage without penetrating the armour. The spike end could be used for grappling the target's armour, reins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rein), or shield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield), or could be turned in the direction of the blow to pierce even heavy armour. Against mounted opponents, the weapon could also be directed at the legs of the horse, toppling the armored foe to the ground where he could be more easily attacked.
The most famous instance of a hammer as a weapon is Mjolnir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mjolnir), the weapon of the Norse god, Thor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor).

Ivan Stupidor
14-04-2006, 15:59
The use of the work Warhammer is not exclusive to GW.


Yes, but when there's a fellow saying "My warhammer cost me 40k", it's fairly obvious they're making a reference to something GW produces.

(I've heard they dropped that line in the WCIII expansions, as well as changing the name of the "Steam Tank" and "Gyrocopter".)

Bubble Ghost
14-04-2006, 16:01
The use of the work Warhammer is not exclusive to GW.


Thank you for enlightening me, professor.:p

The Warcraft thing is an obvious joke. When it draws so heavily on the same imagery Warhammer does, some of it directly from Warhammer rather than just from common sources, and that the phrase about 40,000 whatevers is otherwise completely meaningless, you'd have to be very naive to think it was anything but a deliberate reference.

hiram
14-04-2006, 17:18
Take a look at the closing shot from The Chronicles of Riddick, and tell me that isn't the picture of Sigmar at the end of the WH rulebook.

Hideous Loon
14-04-2006, 18:03
Hiram, that's not ultimately from GW, but from the ending shots of Conan, the Barbarian, where he sits in much the same pose.

C. Langana
14-04-2006, 18:24
There was/ is a game called Warhamster.

hiram
15-04-2006, 04:25
Hiram, that's not ultimately from GW, but from the ending shots of Conan, the Barbarian, where he sits in much the same pose.

very true but still the similarities of both are rather striking.

EvC
15-04-2006, 15:56
Just like HHH's Wrestlemania intro!

ArtificerArmour
15-04-2006, 16:15
The Farscape pathfinder episode was written before the Tau were released, I'm afraid.

Sandlemad
15-04-2006, 22:18
I've heard they dropped that line in the WCIII expansions, as well as changing the name of the "Steam Tank" and "Gyrocopter".

Yep. They become the "Flying Machine" and the "Siege Engine". That said, flying machine is a way cooler name.

Bubble Ghost
16-04-2006, 13:31
The Farscape pathfinder episode was written before the Tau were released, I'm afraid.

That is under the "coincidental similarities" heading, you know...

WiCkEdRock
16-04-2006, 13:47
Starcraft, Warcraft, Rock 'n Roll Racing.. Alot of Blizzard games have taken from GW or referred to them.

Take a good look at the Starcraft game and think about the OverMIND, the Hydralisk model and so on.

Taliesynkp
16-04-2006, 15:48
Starcraft, Warcraft, Rock 'n Roll Racing.. Alot of Blizzard games have taken from GW or referred to them.

Take a good look at the Starcraft game and think about the OverMIND, the Hydralisk model and so on.

Sorry, no. Blizzard was just drawing inspiration from the same sources as GW.







:angel: What?

neXus6
16-04-2006, 15:54
Atleast Blizzard can have a sense of humour with GWs stuff, Gw certainly seems unable to. :p

Bubble Ghost
16-04-2006, 16:58
And Blizzard would no doubt display the same good humour if GW started lifting things from Warcraft...:D

neXus6
16-04-2006, 17:14
Yeah but for that GW would have to pull the stick out of their arses. :p
Would be really funny though.

Mind you I've not felt quite the connection with Blizzard that I used to back in Starcraft, Warcraft and Warcraft 2 days. I've never really played Warcraft 3 and World of Warcrack just doesn't appeal to me at all, it is very cartooney and also very expensive, I just hope they don't go the way of Westwood and get eaten by EA. Or for that matter they yet so big that they become as bad as EA.

ArtificerArmour
16-04-2006, 21:08
That is under the "coincidental similarities" heading, you know...

And I was using real life facts stating that it was coincidental :rolleyes:

Bubble Ghost
17-04-2006, 15:52
Don't :rolleyes: me, young man. If that's all you were saying, you were just repeating what I'd already said. From your tone and the fact that you bothered replying at all, I naturally assumed you thought you were 'correcting' me, which is why I posted that response. That's all.

ArtificerArmour
17-04-2006, 16:03
Well, some people may not have known that episode of Farscape was recorded before the Tau was released, as it was running, quite strongly, in the period the Tau was released. You didn't say anything except there were blue pathfinder in farscape. I just clarified it. So please, don't take offense where none was clearly intent.

Bubble Ghost
17-04-2006, 16:26
Well, some people may not have known that episode of Farscape was recorded before the Tau was released, as it was running, quite strongly, in the period the Tau was released. You didn't say anything except there were blue pathfinder in farscape. I just clarified it. So please, don't take offense where none was clearly intent.

Okie doke. Kiss and make up?

ArtificerArmour
17-04-2006, 16:40
Yes please!