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18-10-2011, 19:29

So having tested out this project log business over on my Daemon log (see sig) I felt it was time to show off my largest and most favouritiest army ever: My Pre Heresy Emperors Children.

Inspired by all the logs here (DPA, Apologist, The PCRC and many more) I began plotting an army of my favourite traitors. Taking my cue from 'Fulgrim' I decided to set the army during the events of the assault on the Laer homeworld.

At the time, the Blood Angel codex had just been released and having seen the rules for Mephiston, I knew I had the perfect rule set for a Primarch, in my case Fulgrim himself:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6104/6257703159_f2cab5c26c_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6257703159/)
Fulgrim (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6257703159/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr

Based on the Archaon on foot model, this is my take on the Phonecian. I shaved the skulls of the chest and replaced it with an imperial eagle from the Imperial Guard Tank Sprue. The head is an Eldar Guardian head and the sword is half Sanguinary Guard sword, half Dire Sword to represent the Blade of the Laer. At his side is the fireblade from the Black Templar sprue.

The army is almost 2500 points now so I'll show it in bits over time. To finish this initial post, here is my MKIII Iron Armoured Assault Squad. Crafted from many many plastic bits before the Forge World resins appeared, this squad is made from Khorne Bezerkers, Chaos Marines, Dark Angels, Black Templar and Space Marine bits

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6236/6257708287_7b0337a768_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6257708287/)
Assault Squad (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6257708287/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr

Comments always appreciated!


Bob Hunk
19-10-2011, 10:36
Very nice. :) I really like the rich purple, how did you do it? That's a great take on Fulgrim too. :D

19-10-2011, 11:17
Cheers mate, high praise indeed from one of the Pre-Heresy Masters!

The purple is really simple. I got the idea from the web somewhere but can't remember who to credit! Basically it's mithril silver and 3 washes of leviathan purple to give a deep metallic purple effect.

Eidolon and his bodyguard tonight...

19-10-2011, 11:46
Great start! I really like what you did with Fulgrim there, i am intrigued to see your take on Eidolon and co.

Cheers! :)

19-10-2011, 21:27
Dear me, two Pre-Heresy Heroes in one day, I feel honoured! Thankyou DPA, much appreciated.

Here is my take on Eidolon.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6019/6257704763_42c9300eed_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6257704763/)
Eidolon (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6257704763/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr

Obviously based on Sigvald the Magnificent, this little marine features very little conversion other than two Powerfists because you dont see it everyday and a Jump pack (old raptor) to help keep him mobile and also to tie him into this:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6257705623_e7f2dc1a89_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6257705623/)
Honour Guard (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6257705623/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr

My favourite unit, the Honour Guard. Bearing masks fashioned in the image of Lord Eidolon so that the Lord Commander may only ever look upon his own perfection. Basically a Honour Guard squad with Jump Packs, Chapter Bannner and Power Weapons. This unit with its feel no pain and multiple attacks has reliably faced off against every unit imaginable and come out bloody but victorious.

What do you think? Fabius and a Tactical Squad coming soon!

19-10-2011, 21:37
I love the honor guard squad. Very fitting. I can't remember, is Fulgrim ever described as using a plasma pistol. If not it seems like an odd choice for a Primarch, at least as far as fluff is concerned. It would be terribly awkward to loose one of the Emperor's sons to an overheating plasma shot.

19-10-2011, 21:44
No he isn't but Mephiston does so I have to at least make a nod to WYSIWYG I suppose. I never use it in game mind. Nor do I use his psychic abilities since he tried Wings of Sanguinius in game 1 and periled himself to death...

20-10-2011, 03:32
My only issue with your Eidolon is... wasnt Eidolon bald, and wasnt his favoured weapon a thunder hammer?

To be honest, I always thought the Master of the Fleet from the Masters of the Chapter set would make a *poifect* heresy-era Eidolon.

By the by, the use of that elven banner is awesome, I'd have never thought of that but it'd make a great banner for the Primarch and his Phoenix Guard.

20-10-2011, 09:25
Cheers Baphomael,

I honestly have no idea what eidolon favoured but my reading of him suggested that he was already a hedonist before so I always imagined him smirking, flicking his hair, insisting on perfect looking armour etc. Whilst not strictly a model of the artwork given for Eidolon, it's just my take on him from "Fulgrim". The Thunder Hammer thing though.... Might be worth my looking into...

Phoenix banner is my favourite bit too, I'm quite pleased with it, especially as it was painted with washes only!

More soon!

20-10-2011, 16:03
Back again, this time with (hopefully) HD daylight lit pictures...

First up, everyones favourite GP, Chief Apothecary Fabius:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6219/6263343953_b0e659feca_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6263343953/)
Fabius 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6263343953/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6054/6263344705_d9af2befc6_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6263344705/)
Fabius 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6263344705/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr

During the events of "Fulgrim", nods were given to Fabius's use of a prot-chirurgeon so I figured is Narthecium and reductor could be worked into a backpack. Its made from Techmarine servo-harness bits, a melta bomb, a spike from a chaos warrior and the light from the terminator homing beacon. Just two arms though, four is for madmen :shifty:

The rest of the model is the head from the Pistolier box, an army from the techmarine box with a scout bolt pistol and the chainsword from the White Dwarf Subscription beaky marine. Oh and the body of a Dark Angel (for the overcoat!)

Game wise he counts as Brother Corbulo- 2+ Feel No Pain! Heavens Teeth is also represented (S5 Chainsword) but I like to think its his big stabby needle myself...

Next up, a bit of troopage: Tactical Squad Agades

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6053/6263346427_bb5914a5b7_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6263346427/)
Tactical Squad 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6263346427/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6032/6263345383_293775c455_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6263345383/)
Tactical Squad 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6263345383/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr

I think this shows off the metallic purple armour a bit better. Painting wise I like quick and effective. The whole model is based mithril silver. Armour is washed Leviathan Purple 3 times, gold is 2x Gryphonne Sepia and 1x Devlan Mud. Everything else is painted black and then painted 'normally'

The marines themselves are all plastic. The shoulder pads are in fact from the Chaos Sprue with the icons filed off- perfect for Iron Armour! The rest is Black Templar and Dark Angel bits.

Comments, critiscisms, praise, threats and firstborn children etc. all welcomed


20-10-2011, 19:47
I really like the look of washes over silver, it gives a striking appearance that is effective but not overly complicated, I'll have to try it my self.
The character conversions look great as well, Good Job!

20-10-2011, 20:43
Excellent stuff, Memnon. The purple is very luxurious, as it should be for the EC methinks. The Fabius conversion is my favorite so far. Interesting to see your interpretation of him before his corruption. He is still very spooky looking, probs a result of the giant hydraulic hypodermic needles on his back.

"The doc is in..." :skull:

21-10-2011, 12:52
I really like the look of washes over silver, it gives a striking appearance that is effective but not overly complicated, I'll have to try it my self.
The character conversions look great as well, Good Job!

Cheers mate! Words of warning:

1. It won't work on flat surfaces. I have a predator and a vindicator done in this style and it just doesnt look right to me.
2. Baal Red is actually Baal Pink. My test model was a Word Bearer Chaos Marine but I couldn't get the red right. Asurmen Blue and Thraka Green are spot on however. Gryphonne Sepia for Gold. Haven't tried Badab Black to this extreme yet- would be interested to see anyone else's take on that- Iron Hands Maybe?

Excellent stuff, Memnon. The purple is very luxurious, as it should be for the EC methinks. The Fabius conversion is my favorite so far. Interesting to see your interpretation of him before his corruption. He is still very spooky looking, probs a result of the giant hydraulic hypodermic needles on his back.

"The doc is in..." :skull:

Lol, thanks mate. I did initially wonder if the Big Stabby Needle (TM) was a bit too much but i figured its got a reinforced skeleton and a Black Carapace to punch through so fairs fair!

Ok so up next its some Scouts to fill out my troop compliment:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6094/6266330466_6ce5b656e7_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6266330466/)
Sniper Scouts (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6266330466/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6226/6266329988_3a5acf64f4_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6266329988/)
Bolter Scouts (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6266329988/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr

The bolter scouts were a nightmare to convert and mostt of the hands dont meet the arms without a little careful plastic grafting but i think they turned out ok.

Also, some close-ups of the Honour Guard
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6236/6265800825_c0d18dc6cf_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6265800825/)
HG Apothecary (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6265800825/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6165/6266332094_379d83fcf1_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6266332094/)
HG Hammer (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6266332094/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6219/6266331600_0291b7ae98_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6266331600/)
HG Banner (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6266331600/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr

A few more pics to upload over the coming days. After that I am planning to add some Death Company- Or allied Pre-Heresy World Eaters to you and me :)
Anyone know any good painting guides for white?


21-10-2011, 13:49
Lovely. It goes without saying that the characters look great subtle conversion work, imaginative additions (syringe base is a melta bomb, right? And the lamp on Bile is from the Terminator teleporty thing*?) and a beautiful paintjob but the thing I like best about this force is the consistency of the work on the foot troops.

The colour is lovely and rich: a proper regal, Imperial purple rather than an effete pink; and the parts selection for the troops is brill. The choice of shoulder pad is great, and the helmets are awesome. The warlike posing is subtle and professional-looking. Great! :)

*Possibly not the technical term.

21-10-2011, 14:06
Wow. Thanks so much Apologist, high praise from someone who I took most of my inspiration from, this is like having Royalty visit (I imagine)! Much appreciated.

The syringe is indeed a melta bomb plus a spike from a chaos warrior. I toyed with the idea of using a pin but figured I'd just end up full of holes whilst gaming. The light from the teleport thingy has come in very handy- the other features on my Honour Guard Apothecary.

Thanks again!


11-11-2011, 16:35
Hi all,

Quick update: This army has gone up for sale on eBay and is ending in a couple of days so I thought I'd post the last pictures here. Its a shame to sell it but I need the space and the cash to start a whole slew of new projects so at least they'll go to a good home!

To finish then:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6048/6263342993_d8dc8d8b73_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6263342993/)
Apothecary (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6263342993/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr
An apothecary to accompany the tactical squad (Feel No Pain!)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6095/6257707429_5fc09a64b8_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6257707429/)
Furioso (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6257707429/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr
Furioso Dreadnought. Before the kit came out I created this furioso with a frag cannon (as the twin autocannon it had before that was rubbish) Listed as the Lion of Colchis in my army list.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6092/6257706621_18268a58f3_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6257706621/)
Librarian (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6257706621/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr
Terminator Librarian- technically my test miniature for the army, I was so pleased with how i turned Commander Culln into a pre-heresy terminator that he stayed on to serve as a librarian. Deep Strike plus Blood Lance is deadly to tanks btw! Speaking of tanks...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6100/6257712045_ebf63687f6_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6257712045/)
Baal Predator (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6257712045/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6045/6258240994_e79ab93484_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6258240994/)
Vindicator (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6258240994/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr

Baal Predator and Vindicator. As you can see the washes dont really settle well on flat surfaces but it creates a decent mottled effect. Not exatcly my best work but I couldn't think of an alternative scheme. The predator features Imperial Guard Leman Russ sponsons to look like to classic predator.

Finally my Maximus armoured devastator squad. I figured if anyone needed the newest armour it'd be these heavy weapon wielding marines!
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6110/6258237332_e04d89f06f_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6258237332/)
Devastators (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67500023@N08/6258237332/) by SteJohno (http://www.flickr.com/people/67500023@N08/), on Flickr

And thats the lot! A great little project, If you haven't taken the Pre-heresy plunge yet then I suggest you try it, it really refreshes "Muhreenz" as they say.

Comment away!


PS: for sale here:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Warhammer-40-000-40k-Pre-Heresy-Emperors-Children-Army-/300620250623?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item45fe5cfdff

Postage discount for Warseer peeps; details here: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5904620#post5904620

17-11-2011, 11:23
Inspiring stuff. I had stalled on my EC due to not being happy with how the purple cam out. This has turned my plans on its head. Hope you dont mind me stealing the idea.

17-11-2011, 16:50
Hey, thanks for your comment!

Feel free to steal away, the army no longer belongs to me so it's no trouble to me if it's replicated!

I've checked your log and I must say you have a great collection there, I'll look forward to seeing you reboot it on those great forgeworld pieces!