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Tayrod
29-11-2011, 12:34
Hi there! I'd like to hear your collective wisdom on what you do to make your games of warhammer40k enjoyable for you and your opponent! I'd especially like tips on how you score a solid win, while still letting your opponent enjoy him (or her) self!

Kurisu313
29-11-2011, 12:39
Uh, be so bad that you can't slaughter 'em? Works for me...

Eh, what can you do? Be a decent guy, try to share a laugh, point out where you were lucky and didn't deserve it...y'know, like EVERY game.

Sometimes you just get unlucky. If getting massacred upsets you, then you're gonna be upset, but assuming you're a balanced human being you'll get over it quickly!

I will say (since I think this will be said), you don't have to be a powergaming WAAC ******* to be unhappy after a massacre. Even for the most fluffy person in the world it can be hard to enjoy yourself when nothing goes your way.

Edit: Oh yeah, if you massacred someone due to a huge experience gap, like a newbie, then a few pointers here and there is always good. Just be gentle and give advice, try not to dictate or blame.

The bearded one
29-11-2011, 12:46
Hitting yourself in the face repeatedly with the most offending model on your side.



You can't really do much about it, but don't be cocky about it though and attribute it to your awesomeness.

boogaloo
29-11-2011, 12:53
Meh, I find that it's really up to the losing player to enjoy himself. When I'm gettin slaughtered I consolidate my forces and try to take down his HQ or something silly like that. Or escort my HQ to my table edge. If I complete this objective I completely deny ever having lost any games :D. As long as you do it tongue in cheek it just makes for a couple extra laughs at the end of the game, and gives me something to occupy myself with while my opponent makes minced meat of me.

As far as what you could do as a winning player to ease the loss. I don't really know. I find if I patronise my opponent it just feels wierd. Unless he actually did get hosed by the dice gods, I'll just poke fun at him in as humerous a fashion as possible to insight laughs. Actually the last game I played was against orks and the dice gods really did screw him, we both had a blast.

Sinnertje
29-11-2011, 13:04
I find that, when you're absolutely slaughtering him, that it's okay to be a little lenient with stuff. If he charges but rolls 1 short, just let him get into combat. If he misses like 75% of his shooting attacks, let him reroll them all.

VirtualSniper
29-11-2011, 13:31
What I do in those case is help the other player find out a way to tip the balance. This can go as far as telling him how he should move, what to fire and assault so that maybe it could help him contest an objective or destroy an important part of my army.

It helps having an enjoyable game, and it is a good training for myself too because I need to think about tactics, but with the other army. It is always good to have experience with other armies.

Mozzamanx
29-11-2011, 13:40
If the game gets to a point where its already decided, ease back on the gaming and go for a cinematic feel for the last couple of turns. Send your HQ out for a heroic duel, disembark all your infantry and storm the front, or something equally cool. It won't change the outcome of the game but at least you get a nice memory out of it, and the opponent will actually get to use his own models before they die.

Latro_
29-11-2011, 13:50
Normally start the game again of it its too late for that let em bring units back on.

Ravenous
29-11-2011, 14:03
You troll him hard and make fun of his mother. Oh wait...

Nah its just how you conduct yourself, I dont like beating around the bush so I will kill you as fast as possible, but after the initial deathblow though I ease back on blocking tactics as they usually instantly kill fun, unless the other guy is doing it too then its a matter of waiting for the break in the line.

ColShaw
29-11-2011, 14:19
I think the main thing is to just have fun. Make jokes about things. Do your soldiers' voices, if you're good at it (I'm fond of having my Plasma Gunners squeak "It burns! It burns!" when they fatally overheat). Discuss the cinematics of the game; if their commander is surrounded and beaten to the ground, admire his brave last stand.

Things like that. The main thing is to not come across as a jerk, just someone playing a game.

Cry of the Wind
29-11-2011, 14:30
For me it depends on the setting. In a tourny I'll admit sometimes I don't act as nice when winning only because I am still concentrating on the game and don't want to slip up and lose standings over a silly mistake. If I really have crushed you with no chance for recovery I'll likely have some words about your dice since I probably did get a little lucky to have a total slaughter.

Some tips are in order if the other player is newer though I don't do that as often in tournaments, not because I want to hide anything but I think I'd feel bad after losing an important game and the other guy points out something stupid I missed that may have changed things.

When I get crushed it's normally a bad match up where I knew I was in trouble going into it or my dice had a revolt. In the bad match up I try to do as much as possible but generally am not too thrilled about the game. Bad dice I find can be funny the more it goes on. Just expect everything to go wrong and when it doesn't you get to have a celebration! I won Best Sportsmanship at a large event during which I was tabled and also tabled an opponent so it is possible to keep having fun in both scenarios as long as you remember at the end of the day your playing with toy soliders (beer helps too :p).

TimLeeson
29-11-2011, 14:32
Play Praetorian imperial-guard, massacres are always enjoyable for them.

Commissar Merces
29-11-2011, 14:39
I felt really bad last time I tabled a necron player with my Imperial Guard. He wasn't ready for my leman russ rush and outflanking Al Rahem.

I have never won against necrons up until that point, so I was kind of overzealous... but I was gracious at the end and blamed it on his dice more than anything else.

DarkReaver
29-11-2011, 15:19
Do something humorous. I'll give an example of something I did once.

A unit of Mutants butchered their way through two max sized units of Boyz and a Warboss only losing 7 Mutants in the carnage. By butchered I mean they did it through actual battle, none of this running them while they flee stuff.
They proceeded to blow up a Truck the next turn with their grenades, it exploded and no casualties despite 4 wounds.

At this point my opponent was frowning heavily.

I turned the squad to face me, pointed at them and yelled "Why won't you all die??!?"

Made my opponent crack up laughing.


Simple things like that can make a bad game for one player suddenly much more enjoyable.

Knifeparty
29-11-2011, 16:05
Try to make funny comments throughout the game about the game itself. For example if your playing GK and one of your terminators dies to a las gun shot, I usually say:

"Hundreds of years of training! The greatest Armour and weapons at the Emperors disposal laid low by a pathetic guardsmen, The tragedy!...or something like that.

I also like to comment on peoples armies in a good way if it's particularly well painted or an original army that you don't see often.

The game is about having fun and making friends not getting your rocks off. People can have fun and be involved even if they are loosing especially if there is some kind of narrative going on throughout the game.

Gangremond
29-11-2011, 19:04
Go for the moral victory. The "yeah I lost but at least I took out that unit."

I once did this at a tourney. I was getting tabled or close to it with my Tyranids vs his Space Marines. His 3 Assault Marines charged my lone Warrior. I told him something along the lines of "wouldn't it be funny if I rolled 3 6s?". I rolled 3 6's finishing off his squad.

Years later I remember his shouting "For the Emperor!" and "My faith is my shield!" as well as that incident with my 1 warrior vs. his 3 Assault Marines.

If I'm winning vs a new person or someone unfamiliar with my army, I would just tell them it was because they didn't know what they were looking at. Bad dice rolls are usually involved in the game as well.

Okuto
29-11-2011, 20:09
good conversation and banter usually does it for me, I'm the local jobber so I usually don't need to worry about this.

If I'm playing and I see that I'm winning I just ease it back a bit and try to set up interesting moments....I usually try to go for a draw most of the time

Demoulius
29-11-2011, 20:27
Well that generaly depends on how said massacre plays out.

Ive had games (both on the receiving end and the dishing out side) where dice were so horribly one sided that it doesent really matter what you do. I find those games to bu unfulfilling to win...and well...lose as well :rolleyes:

In those cases just try to be positive and just point out its horrible luck, nothing else you can really :shifty:

When your beating someone due to experience (new player, or new list) try to help them with pointers or with their lists..

And well, in games with very bad luck beeing more forgiving of beeing short an inch and such can do wonders!

In all games though keep it fun and sporting :)

chromedog
29-11-2011, 20:31
You can't make a massacre enjoyable.

You can make a SLAUGHTER enjoyable, though, since you can't spell it without laughter.

KingDeath
29-11-2011, 21:01
Well, it is not your job to entertain your opponent. Play fair, be polite. If your opponent is a newbie and/or made some obvious mistakes then inform ( once again in a polite and friendly manner ) him/her about them after the game, if he/she is willing to listen.
If your opponent can't stomach to lose badly in a wargameonce in a while then he/she should grow up.

Lord Malorne
29-11-2011, 21:14
Depends on the people playing, i'm one of the better players in the area and rarely get a challenge so don't play as much as I used to, while a mate of mine must lose about 90% of his games and keeps playing and loves to play...

Depends on the people.

wyvirn
29-11-2011, 22:53
Come up with secondary objectives that will give you a moral victory.
Or if you are getting tabled constantly, try convincing your opponent to end objective games earlier, or maybe you can try to survive for as long as possible.

igwarlord
29-11-2011, 23:01
Don't under any circumstances scream WAHHHH! this will make the game 100% more enjoyable for all


you ork players know who you are that are guilty of this

Brother-Captain Endymion
30-11-2011, 01:25
I will occasionally utter Orky phrases during a game. That, and give my Nobs peptalks before an important assault. Example:

"Oi, Bragnoz... yer betta lissen gud. Da boss wants dese 'umies krumped! Time ta get stuck in and do wot Orkz was born ta do. Fight an' win!"

I'm a wargaming nerd, and I approved this message.

EDIT:
With Orks, it's really all about fun anyway. Besides, we all know that Orks never really lose!

Pooky
30-11-2011, 02:18
Go for the moral victory. The "yeah I lost but at least I took out that unit."

This is what I try to do if I am being slaughtered. I remember one game where my Orks were disappearing fast. In the end I decided the one goal for my army was to kill their Commander. Did I lose the game? Yes. Did I get a small thrill at trying do something that was not prescribed by the victory conditions? Oh heck yes!

Lyonator
30-11-2011, 02:28
Wyvirn is on the same page as I am.
I lose a LOT, so typically set more reasonable goals than winning...
like, "that squad, dead"
or try to set my opponent up to be as disappointed as possible
moral victories FTW!
(like bringing silly but fun units... Deathstrike, warhound, etc)

N.I.B.
30-11-2011, 10:48
I really enjoy to massacre my opponent. To make it more sufferable for him, I usually were an apologetic smile, and tilt my head a bit to one side.
'Oh man that sucks, you really had some bad dice there'.
I also use a technique were I imply that my success was due to pure luck
'Christ, I can't BELIEVE how good my dice are'
nevermind how average I roll throughout the game.

orkmiester
30-11-2011, 11:00
i usually am a little apologetic:D

'oops that hurt- please take of [insert unit here]'

i don't tend to rub things in you only do that when your opponents is doing it first:shifty:

or i ask 'are you sure' when they have done their movement etc just to make sure they have thought about it- sometimes i have already thought 1/2 turns ahead:cool::wtf:

though you can't help feel sorry sometimes- especailly when it is your opponent's first game against your army if they haven't faced it before- thats what happend recently with my DE and GK both games a right massacre and i oddly didn't lose very much. That poor BA player nearly got totaly tabled- he learned his lesson though he said...

you just have to manage your face as not to be seen as a right... [insert offensive term here:shifty:]

marv335
30-11-2011, 11:10
Be gracious in defeat and magnanimous in victory.
Simply, don't be a jerk about it.