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Greatwood
15-12-2011, 20:21
when you build your army lets say at 1000 points, and 25% can be specials does that mean 250 points or is it the percentage overall?

vorthrax
15-12-2011, 20:25
when you build your army lets say at 1000 points, and 25% can be specials does that mean 250 points or is it the percentage overall?

I assume you mean if for example you build a 1,000 point list to 995 points, do you get 500 points (it's 50% for specials, not 25% ;) ) worth of specials? The answer is yes.

EDIT: Well, you know... now that I think about it. That may be wrong. LOL! Sorry, not much help after all.

theunwantedbeing
15-12-2011, 20:34
A 1k army is anything upto and including 1000pts.
So you could find that you only spent 987pts

You would still be allowed to spend 50% of the full 1000, rather than 50% of 987 (which would be just 493.5pts) as the army is a 1k army, not a 987pt army.

Greatwood
15-12-2011, 21:01
i'm sorry, i meant of that 1000 points, if you have more than 250 points worth of special units but are still under 25% overall is that allowed?

theunwantedbeing
15-12-2011, 21:04
i'm sorry, i meant of that 1000 points, if you have more than 250 points worth of special units but are still under 25% overall is that allowed?

:confused:
You can't have more than 250points and be under 25% of a thousand.
or am I misunderstanding what you are asking?

Greatwood
15-12-2011, 21:08
yeah i think i might be bad at math.
:shifty:

Lord Inquisitor
15-12-2011, 21:15
I assume you mean if for example you build a 1,000 point list to 995 points, do you get 500 points (it's 50% for specials, not 25% ;) ) worth of specials? The answer is yes.

EDIT: Well, you know... now that I think about it. That may be wrong. LOL! Sorry, not much help after all.
Hmm, the book is a bit vague. "You can spend up to 25% of your points on Lords", etc.

Looking back it still isn't enormously clear: "By adding all the points costs of the warriors you have selected you can find out the points value of your army" and "The total points value determines the maximum points you can spend."

Still, everyone I know plays it as theunwantedbeing says, % values are based off the maximum value not the actual value. Army Builder also operates in this fashion. I think it's safe to say this is the proper way of playing.

So 1000 point game you can spend 50% on Specials, that means not spending more than 500 points.

Greatwood
15-12-2011, 22:31
Thank you Lord Inquisitor!

Mr. Shine
17-12-2011, 03:22
Looking back it still isn't enormously clear: "By adding all the points costs of the warriors you have selected you can find out the points value of your army" and "The total points value determines the maximum points you can spend."


That seems entirely clear... taking all of the values of the units you've selected defines the maximum points you can spend when applying their relevant percentages.

But yes, ridiculous to force someone to drop some specials/rares/etc. just because they've come in say three points under the maximum :)

AMWOOD co
17-12-2011, 08:37
The other side to this, of course, is that if you play a 1000 pts game and make an army that's only 984 pts (maybe you're gnobblar free ogres?), then you will still need 250 pts of Core Units instead of 246 pts. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done that way, in fact I definately play that way, but that's how it is.

Mr. Shine
17-12-2011, 21:44
On second thought (or rather, when Mr. Shine reads his rule book) it seems to definitely be a percentage of the agreed points limit.

In the 'Choosing Your Army' section:

"With the points total agreed, players need to pick their forces using the army list in the relevant Warhammer Armies book, and the system presented here."

The army selection summary table that follows it states the percentages of the points limit, not the points actually taken. Which makes sense and things much easier.