View Full Version : Master of Sanctity Vardemis (GD Entry)

21-04-2006, 05:14
The long and short of it is: my original entry was a Tau Commander, but after having converted both the model and the base (which is on an Epic Titan base), and standing taller than a Daemon Prince (by at least an inch), I came to the understanding/realization that the model would be ineligible for 40k single. SO, shifting gears, I decided to paint either Helbrecht (for the cape), or the new Terminator Chaplain (for the sexy model).

I was at a fork in the road until the local GW manager suggested I sculpt a cape for the Terminator Chaplain. "DONE!" I proclaimed, and thus Master of Sanctity Vardemis was born.

A week later, and much cursing over the Brazier, the model is basically complete (bar paintjob). The cape, despite the pictures, is actually virtually smooth, except for 2 points. Under the right shoulderpad, where the cape makes a sharp bend, and where the cape folds over the back of the right leg. I've tried repeatedly to correct the first, and will probably end up covering it with Purity Seals and the like (attached to the shoulder pad). I will correct the latter once the GS dries.

The plan is to paint him per a regular Chaplain ensemble, with RMM (no NMM for me this time). Freehand on the cape, front and back, of course. My question is, any suggestions for Chapter? He will not be for gaming, display only. So any Chapter will do (the cooler the better), and this will probably dictate the freehand on the back.

Comments and criticisms (please, criticise heavily) are always welcome:


More shots here. (http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/mybrain/Chaplain%20Vardemis/)


The Dragon Reborn
21-04-2006, 06:38
we need a back shot! for the cape!

anyway From what I can see of the cape it looks sweet, and I cant wait until you paint some freehand on there

as for the chapter, I have always been a fan of the dark angels/ deathwing

21-04-2006, 06:41
Black Templars would be best because he looks like he could supposidly be holding a holy orb of Antioch

Suicide Messiah
21-04-2006, 13:18
Id go for Blood Angels. Itll give you a strong colourscheme (black/red) and lots of material for freehand on the cape.

21-04-2006, 13:31
like the model. maybe go for imperial fist, you don't see them very much and you have a good black-yellow contrast. can't wait to see more. oh and a better pic of the cape would be nice.


21-04-2006, 13:41
Nice conversion with the brazier. Can I ask why the cape is pinned to his body behind one shoulder pad and in between the vents on his back? Like its pinned off to one side? Why does it not come from under each shoulder pad? Just looks a bit odd IMO thats all.

As per chapter, why not something like Salamanders? A good bright green with the black?

21-04-2006, 13:48
Why not the warseer chapter colors?

21-04-2006, 14:42
He seems more like a Dark Angel to me... Perhaps even a Deathwing character (all kinds of opportunities there)

21-04-2006, 15:06
Can we have a shot of the back to see his cape?

Warseer colours would be awesome, especially if he won :D

21-04-2006, 15:59
Click the link below the image called "more shots here" for more pictures. I'm thinking about Scythes of the Emperor (suggestion from B&C).

As for the cape, I rather like how it's off center. That and if I were to shift the cape over, it would involve resculpting the entire thing. I'd rather just shave off the purity seals and put new ones on, matching the motion of the cape.

I'll get more work done on him today and hopefully have the finished converted model posted up.


21-04-2006, 16:21
The yellow would look great with the black of the chappy armor (IIRC Scythes are yellow and black, right?)

But i would attach the cape to both shoulderpads instead of one end at a shoulder pad and one end in the middle of the vents...

21-04-2006, 16:31
I would third the scythes, especially with the whole chaplain/grim reaper thing, I recon a grim reaper freehand on the cape would look awesome

22-04-2006, 03:40
I've settled on Scythes of the Emperor (I get the bright yellows, with the dual imagery of Death as both a Chapter icon and as part of the Chaplain's grim role).


Replaced the purity seals on the left leg to help convey the motion of the cape (along with a couple purity seals on the back). The rough areas of the cape have also been filed/scraped away to smooth it all down (so it looks a little.."rough" or "damaged",...but it isn't). He'll have a heraldry shield from the Terminator box, and I may add a scroll on top of the cape afterwards, but I'm undecided at this point.

I'll begin painting him next week when school is over.


02-05-2006, 04:56
Sorry for taking so long to post updates, but what with final projects and moving from the apartment to home, I've been, shall we say, somewhat busy. Thankfully it's summer now, and I can work full-steam on my entries.

So here we go. Basically a days worth of work. The camera close ups show a lot more blemishes than normally visible, HOWEVER, it's also a good way of showing those tiny areas that require a bit more work or touching up. So I'll get to those and fix them up by the next round of updates (which will be tomorrow). I spent the most time on the skull and the chest eagle (moreso the skull than anything), so those look the most finished. The armor is going to need a couple more layers of brighter highlights, as it just doesn't "pop" at the moment (in my opinion anyways, feel free to say otherwise). The tabard/parchment is the least finished, as it's just received basecoats + basic highlights.




Fire away.


02-05-2006, 06:22
That white looks great. Wouldn't mind to see a tutorial when you're all done. :D You're right the armour doesn't pop, but like you said its still WIP. Keep up the good work. :)

02-05-2006, 07:04
Sweetness. I just might be nicking a few ideas for a future project.;)

02-05-2006, 10:42
Ooooo, the paint looks nice. You've got my attention now.

02-05-2006, 13:32
Awsome!I really like the skull,but i think the armour looks like grey and not black.

02-05-2006, 14:22
The armour could use more black, as above poster mentioned. Right now it looks grey. The bone is wonderful. You're a god, and I hate you. A lot.

But why on earth is he standing on cake icing? :D


02-05-2006, 16:07
The armour could use more black, as above poster mentioned. Right now it looks grey. The bone is wonderful. Serpent

As the above - the blacks looking grey - if you add some extreme highlights on the very edges of the plates then work pure black back inot the grey youve got now, not only should it add some depth(giving the 'pop' you want) but also look black...

the bone is great

02-05-2006, 20:44
EE beat me to it. Good job, but make the black more black and give a couple extreme highlights. Really extreme.

03-05-2006, 00:07
I'm really surprised at how well the blends photograph up close. As I mentioned in my last post. I'll be using the photographs I take as sort of a "detector" for super-fine blemishes. Evidently some are still there (moreso on the battle damage now), so I'll have to keep working away at that.

More work on the armor today, blended it down to black (with a hint of brown in there), plus the aforementioned battle damage. Crisp highlights with a muted-white make the model pop a bit more, so I'm pretty happy with that. The tabard is...slowly getting there. Still need to correct over-paint, and do all the fiddly writing. But the cream color is pretty much what I'm aiming for, and will carry that same color over on all the purity seals and other random parchments.

The bone is quite simple, actually. Codex Grey basecoat. Progressively mix in Commando Khaki (until you reach pure Khaki), then Bleached Bone, then Skull White. Then hit up the recesses with washes of Codex Grey, and Codex Grey/Chaos Black (very diluted, 10 or 20% paint to 80 or 90% water). For larger surfaces, glaze more than layer. The skull helmet has, for example, about 50 glazes, give or take.






03-05-2006, 00:08

Lousy 4 image per post limit... :P


03-05-2006, 09:07
Enter it in that state and I'd of given you a higher mark than the LA slayer sword winner.

03-05-2006, 09:34
I second that

03-05-2006, 11:25
I love this chaplain!The battle damage looks awsome!Which color will you take for his eye ?

03-05-2006, 11:51
What colour are you going to paint the cloak? He's looking great. I love the skull and eagles, very nice, may have to try that on a few marines of mine, see how it goes.

04-05-2006, 05:44
The eyes and inside of the cloak will be purple, to complement the bright yellow shoulderpad (should I paint both, or leave the left one black?) of the Scythes of the Emperor heraldry.

Lots of good progress today. Finished up the armor on the feet, the back of the legs, the ass plate, and on the back of the torso. More touchups/glazes done on the front part of the parchment. Started working on the purity seals on the front, parchment on top, and the back of the parchment at the rear. Also painted is the eagle at the top and the skull hanging from the chain. The base has also received more work, going from cream blob to what hopefully now resembles a rock. I intend to do a snow base for the final presentation.

I tried a bit of source lighting/glow effect for the eyes. It's starting to work, but I'm going to need to do a lot more touch ups and glazes to get it just right.






04-05-2006, 05:44



04-05-2006, 10:50
Looking good DV8. What colour are you going to paint the cloak? Would be an idea to maybe try some sort of freehand design on it? Or something rather than have it plain, you may have thought of this already though.

04-05-2006, 13:09
Can we assume a whacking great scythe in place of the crozius arcanum?


04-05-2006, 15:11
The eyes and inside of the cloak will be purple, to complement the bright yellow shoulderpad (should I paint both, or leave the left one black?) of the Scythes of the Emperor heraldry.[/COLOR]As is only proper and befitting of a Chaplain of the Astartes, bedecked in Tactical Dereadnought Armor, only the Right shoulder should be emblazoned with the Chapter Heraldry. The left should remain the proper black, in honor of the Emperor of Man, and bearing the badge of office of his battle priests.

04-05-2006, 15:51
@KayvaanShrike - this has all been worked out already (here and on B&C). The inside of the cloak will be painted with flourishes akin to my Templar Champion, Celestine, and Sword Brethren. The back of the cloak will feature a mural of Death, on horseback. Doubling as well as the Chapter's alternate icon.

@precinctomega - no, he will have his regular Crozius. I don't like scythes.

@Kotobuki - sounds good, thanks for the quick answer!


04-05-2006, 18:40
On the shouldepads, I'd say go for both.
It will probably look better and thats probably more important than having it codex astartes.

Mabey you could tell/show us were you would like to put the intended yellow.

05-05-2006, 09:08
I'll do one shoulderpad and see how it looks.

Veterans night means I didn't get much done. Started work on the metallics. I want the censers to look more like beaten copper than gold, hence the darker, gritter more dented look. The chains are pretty well defined, although I'll need to touch some of that stuff up. Purity seals also finished up, along with the back of the parchment (barring correcting overpaint). I also worked up a bit of the glow on the eyes.

Let me know what you think.






05-05-2006, 09:09




05-05-2006, 14:23
thats nice man, very nice. keep it up! The purple will compliment the Scythes' colour scheme nicely

05-05-2006, 15:53
That is awsome! Like i painted mine as a BT and it turned out good but yours would slaughter mine in a compotition. Good work man keep it up

old guard
05-05-2006, 16:11
MORE!!! that is superb chap, love the purple round the eyes very 'come on make my day'.
Now give up work/university/anything other than painting* and get on with it

*delete as appropriate

06-05-2006, 05:56
I actually finished second year last week Thursday, so I'm on my summer break now.

Most of my time spent touching up the metallics (still a while to go for that). Corrected overpaint on the parchment (and there's a slipup on the front that I need to fix. A cookie to whoever finds it). Did the wax of the purity seals. I still need to push it a little, methinks. I shaded the recesses with Liche Purple, and I'm not sure if it shows too well or not.

I've also started work on his left Crozius arm. Need to touch up some of the blends, do the sharp highlights, and battle damage.

The right censer arm has also received some lovin'. I've resculpted the hand so that it warps more around the ring/handle. Replaced the rivets on the gauntlet that were filed off during cleaning. AND the censer is now swinging in the wind! HUZZAH.



06-05-2006, 06:02


06-05-2006, 06:38
Wow, amazing work! How do you do the highlighting on the black armour? I can never get it right but yours is perfect.

06-05-2006, 06:51
Question - when you do the chains (made out of chains) do you jut coat them in superglue to keep them stiff?


06-05-2006, 11:28
yes, you can see the glue in the bottom left last pic.

06-05-2006, 14:25
Is it just me, or is the purity seal on his chest bleeding into the parchment?

Otherwise it's looking awesome!

06-05-2006, 15:07
Man that is nice....I wish I put as much work into My Chaplain....in fact
*rushes to GW, buys another one, complains about the high prices*

The paint job is looking good, no, Very Good
Keep it up

06-05-2006, 20:24
Yes I tape the arm on the edge of my desk so that the censer (using gravity) hangs in the direction I want it to. Then I gently apply super glue using a toothpick so it doesn't cake up too much.

And yes, some red seems to be bleeding onto the parchment on the chest...will need to fix that...

The black armor is Chaos Black base, and slowly mix in more and more Bleached Bone (gives you a warm grey) until you hit something about the equal of Codex Grey. Then take Skull White, tone it down with a bit of Bleached Bone and Chaos Black, and do the crisp highlights (I use a 00 W&N Series 7 brush for this step).


06-05-2006, 20:34
This is one hell of a mini, I really love the style you're painting in, it looks great, and has nearly inspired me to move back to my desk to get some work done on other things :p.

Very cool.


06-05-2006, 22:59
I know my jaws around here somewhere....

09-05-2006, 06:00
Not much work done over the weekend. Spent most of today working on the cape, freehand and the gems. The left arm received final blends, battle damage, and the highlights. I've also glued the left arm down as everything that the arm covers up is all painted.

The right arm still requires much more work before i can glue it on (mostly the metallics). I really don't feel like typing to that ends this post. Comments and criticisms are mcuh appreciated.



Metal Fingered Villain
09-05-2006, 06:35
Beautiful painting, the purple glow in the eyes and the gems is a nice touch, but I'm not feelin the purple on the cape. What chapter marine is this? as that might explain all the purple.

09-05-2006, 07:01
Scythes of the Emperor. The purple is complementary to the Yellow of the pads.


09-05-2006, 07:15
This is looking really good DV8, I look forward to seeing the pics with the other arm attached.

09-05-2006, 09:44
sick, just sick. in a good way that is.


09-05-2006, 10:47
awesome man

09-05-2006, 17:02
How much yellow is going to be on the shoulders? Both shoulderpads yellow? As much as I liked the eyes before.. now that the Gems are all the same purple color, it looks.. off to me. The freehand is great, and shading is great, but it looks alot less imposing with the fancy cloak and purple gems. Kinda like an Eldar.

Maybe the gems should be red instead?


09-05-2006, 17:09
i love that model, the cape is excellent in that it really brings the dark form of the chaplain to life (look i've just been writing my art exam, dont blame me!)

The eyes seem more like he's crying than light, but that also works imo.

Will you be doing more freehand btw? i was thinking litanies/designs on the skulls or armour would look quite good. On the other hand you havent added the arms yet so i might have take back some of my comments.

09-05-2006, 17:09
sick, just sick. in a good way that is.I agree, only it takes the definition of sick to a whole new level.

Great freehand and really nice gems, I wouldnm't mind seeing you with a website and techniques and things, that would rock.


09-05-2006, 17:20

My homepage. I'm actually thinking of adding an articles section sometime in the near future, with techniques and tutorials and the like. The right shoulderpad will be yellow (and with the rim bronze), and there will be a heraldry shield on the left shoulder that will also be yellow.

As for more freehand...I have a mural planned for the back of the cape. I'm probably going to start working on it once I get both arms done.


09-05-2006, 18:58
The glow effect around the eyes is great, but the eyes themselves look... wrong...

09-05-2006, 20:34
Nice freehand on the cape.

09-05-2006, 22:54
Lovely freehand on the cape!! Yeah I agree the gems should be a diff colour, I always thought purple on marines looked daft, though the cape works, not sure bout the gems, eyes are cool though.

Kasrkin 666
09-05-2006, 22:54
:eek: :eek: :eek:

09-05-2006, 23:45
This guy is looking great. Though, I must disagree with the folks that don't like Purple on Marines. A Dark purple is absolutely SMASHING on Marines. This purple is a little lighter, but because it's limited to a relatively small area, and is still a bit on the darker side due to all the shading I'd say it's acting as a wonderful contrast. Though, I wonder, what color will the outside of the cape be?

Onto the actual sculpt of the model, I'm a bit annoyed that they have the winged skeleton on the guy's right shoulder, and a plain Crux Terminatus on the left. The right shoulder pad on Terminator Armor (the left on power armor) is supposed to be reserved for the Chapter's heraldry. I think I'd've rather seen the Skeleton incorporated into the Crux, much like has been done in the past with the Librarian's distinctive 3 pointed Crux Terminatus with the horned skull.

The main problem is that with how they've got it set up, you can't actually put the chapter's heraldry on the model unless you dremel off a shedload of detail, or add on extra bits with the heraldry. i.e. one of those little Grey Knight shields. Of course, if you go that route to display the Chapter's heraldry... do you even then need to make the right shoulder yellow? Personally, me, (note this is not me tryign to tell you how to do yours) I would go the dremel-ing route, and get the heraldry on there proper. Most likely embossed, as well.

10-05-2006, 06:43
Attached the censer arm (which is pretty much done, barring the metallics on the chain and hand). I've also done the iconographic shoulderpad, and I'm VERY happy with how the yellow turned out (almost makes me want to paint some more yellow marines).

On that note, Terminator heraldry has always been on the right shoulderpad. The left has always been the Crux Terminatus.

I've started the left shoulderpad, but still not completely done (the Crux Terminatus will match the bone/white on the rest of the model). You can even see the scarring my grip has done to the Crozius head. :P

If the white needs more work, I'll do it after I've done all the white on the model (so I can correct them all at once).



10-05-2006, 07:02
That is absolutely gourgeouse

10-05-2006, 07:03

Forgot to post a picture of the heraldry shield so far.


10-05-2006, 07:05
Unbelievable. :eek:


10-05-2006, 12:52
It is fantastic, but there's just something about it, that makes it seem sort of non-space marine.

If you know what I mean. I don't know why, but it just gives me that feeling.


10-05-2006, 13:07
Absolutely stunning. I thought this would be another wannabe thread, but this really is GD material.

10-05-2006, 13:35
Ok i will drop out my all paints,brushes and marines and make a campfire from them...

Stunning.The only thing i didn't feel amazing is the eye.The glow effect is good,but the eyes.I don't feel they are correct.

Can you tell us how did you make that yellow ?

10-05-2006, 13:44
I feel so stupid posting in this thread just to say, "That's amazing!" :(

However, it really is amazing.

Just one thing, I think you got a little dab of yellow paint on the metallic rim of the right shoulderpad.

10-05-2006, 14:17
This guy is looking absolutely fantastic. Your yellow is simply sublime. I'm glad to see that there is (contrary to my earlier opinions) enough room on the Right shoulder pad to put enough of the chapter Heraldry to at least make it recognizable. Fantastic. Is the small shield going to be the chapter heraldry, or will it be the Chaplain's 'personal' heraldry?

10-05-2006, 14:21
Just one thing, I think you got a little dab of yellow paint on the metallic rim of the right shoulderpad.

I agree. Right above the scythe...


10-05-2006, 14:30
Actually there is two mistake:

10-05-2006, 15:43
Looky wot we got here, its an emo space marine. ooh look he has eye liner too. wot are we goin to do bout this. oh my god, he's no emo, he's a mighty fine Chaplain...

....ahem.. very nice work.

one question, how did you paint the cape free hand? do u use a magnifying device> ive thought about buying sumthing of the sort so i can paint extreme detail but never gotten round to it.
just curious
btw very nice

10-05-2006, 16:24
Hehe...aye I'd noticed the mistake on the shoulderpad trim as well, but I'd missed the yellow on the elbow joint. *scurries off to correct*

The yellow is very simple:

50/50 Snakebite Leather/Vomit Brown basecoat.
Vomit Brown glaze (5 or 6 coats)
50/50 Vomit Brown/Golden Yellow (5 or 6 coats)
Golden Yellow glaze (3 or 4 coats here...you don't want it to be completely yellow)
Snakebite Leather glaze for shadows (7 to 10 coats here)
Final Golden Yellow glaze to blend transitions and hit up final highlight tones (2 or 3 coats here)

Apart from the last two glazes, where the mix should be about 1 part paint to 10 parts water, the rest should be about 1:1 paint to water.

I'm undecided about the heraldry shield right now. I think just a normal scythe is too boring, but I have no idea what to put there for personal heraldry. I'll have to consult some of GW's codices and Google for some heraldry later on.

And I don't use a magnifying glass for painting. I'd tried that once many a moon ago, but you lose all sense of depth. I just use the naked eye (I wear glasses too, dunno of those really help though).


10-05-2006, 17:00
What about Quartering it Black and your Yellow, then Counter-Changing the Scythe? Keeps the Chapter Heraldry there, keeps your pallete limited, but adds a little more to it. Like this crappy knocktogether i did. Obviously with more detailing. Though, I thought the Scythes had two crossed Scythes for thier logo, rather than a single one (as seems to be painted on the chaplain)? Course, it's your model to do with as you please.

10-05-2006, 17:33
On the shield, could you not incorporate some sort of campaign marking on there, as recognition for his services during the campaign, though if it is painted in diff colours than used, might draw attention away from the rest of the model. Or paint some litanies on it, to represent the Litanies of Hate?

10-05-2006, 20:36
Thats some mighty fine work. dont forget to knoch the Scythe on the shield Heraldry to match the one on the chapter badge or is that too anal?

10-05-2006, 22:20
I am just REALLY glad that I will not be entering in the single 40k model category!

I can't wait to see it in person!

Kasrkin 666
11-05-2006, 03:50
Once again :eek: :eek: :eek:

11-05-2006, 05:23
Wow. Almost done! ^_^ I've reprimed the worn Crozius, and done the initial basecoat and wash. The chain holding the censer has been painted, and all the purity seals have received their litanies. I've also planned out the mural and begun work on the border (just some corrections left, then it's on to the mural itself!)

I've also begun work on the base, and I'm definitely going to add chunks/clumps of snow to it. Too plain as it stands.

My biggest problem right now is a color for the Crozius handle. I'm thinking maybe purple, to balance the big bright cape on the left, but I don't know...with the gems and the eyes, it might be too much...any thoughts on this?



11-05-2006, 05:30
Not the best picture of the sketch, but my scanner is, unfortunately, KIA.


11-05-2006, 05:33

If you dont at least make the final cut Ill be surprised and I think that you have a very good chance of placing - but you will NEED to fix the base.Its the only thing letting it down.

The crozius handle - Id go with a nice dark red leather look - purple will be overkill and the red should help balance the model.

11-05-2006, 06:59
Damn you just robbed me of coherent thought after seeing that mural and the lastest work :eek:

Keep it up. As for the purple it would be a nice tie in, but it migth be distracting.

11-05-2006, 08:22
You could make the binding like parchment.

One problem with the mural: It looks a bit cartoony.

11-05-2006, 09:40
I think the parchment and deep red colours will work for the handle. more purple might start to look a bit gaudy.

Fantastic work again!

I've just thought of something odd by the way - how come this guys Terminator armour is battle damaged, but his cape/purity seals/scrolls and so on are in perfect condition? It seems a bit odd... I imagine damage to an ancient, revered suit of armour would be repaired at the earliest oppurtunity, whereas replacement of stuff like his cape would be off little concern, even if he had a few spare lying around. Not something that actually matters, I know, but I'm just sort of curious. :p

11-05-2006, 09:46
Space marine capes are made of indistructium. Didn't you know that?

11-05-2006, 09:49
DV8, as usual, you work is sublime. I've already booked your site and can't wait for articles on it.
As to this mini, I'd (just like McMullet) change something with the base. I reckon you should have bigger contrast between the Chaplain and the rock.
The mini rocks and purple is great!

11-05-2006, 11:27
Space marine capes are made of indistructium. Didn't you know that?

Just like Space Marine veteran sergeants' heads... :D

DV8 mate, that's a fully sick model. I fully concur with the others that a faded red leather for the crozius handle is the way to go...

Either way, good luck and kick butt!

11-05-2006, 11:37
Absolutely stunning work there DV8, the mini itself is some of the best work I have seen i a long long time.

However, i'm just not getting the same vibe from the base, I cant put my finger on what is bugging me about it, but it doesn't really detract from the model, just it doesn't add to it either.

Other than that excellent work. BTW I love the mural.


11-05-2006, 14:40
Maybe this quick Photoshop work can help you to choose :

<< Pictures removed : "You don't need them anymore" >>

11-05-2006, 16:01
The red looks better.But i think green could be better.

11-05-2006, 16:02
With the photoshoppery, I'd be inclined to go with the purple... the red doesn't seem to fit. But, then part of me goes Why would you have purple leather? Then again... why would it be red? I'm personally a fan of browns for leather wrapped handles on stuff... but that's me. Of the two suggestions, I'd say purple.

Brush your teeth
11-05-2006, 16:05
ok, are you planning to win golden deamon or to make make people go home and set their paintbrushes on fire and quit painting!?!?

very nice work

11-05-2006, 17:19
See - the red looks better!

11-05-2006, 18:32
purple, deffo

Lame Duck
11-05-2006, 18:44
Ive been lurking here for quite a while and all i can say is....WOW. As for the colour, go with purple, it fits into the whole feel of the model alot better.

Can we expect any more work on the base? it just looks kinda plain...

11-05-2006, 19:06
I would go with dark brown, nothing to eye catching, I mean its only a leather handle after all isnt it? Failing that the red IMHO.

11-05-2006, 19:53
Ok your now my new paiting idol!!!!

Regards Oldbury

11-05-2006, 21:29
Purple goes better IMO - And as a poster noted earlier I could well be burning my brushes after seeing that!!

12-05-2006, 00:10
Instead of a bright color there, would it be too late to add some minor modelling (a seal and a trailer bit) to it to make it look like one long wrapped purity seal? That might be kinda neat.


12-05-2006, 00:40
Simply awesome painting!!

I'd go with the red for the handle :)

Suicide Messiah
12-05-2006, 01:15
Very nice model.

Go with purple sinceteh red seems to throw the it off balance.

12-05-2006, 01:40
i like the idea of the long wrapped seal to make it a parchment look, you could photoshop that too for a look to see if it would fit.


12-05-2006, 08:30
It's not really good but it gives an idea of "the long wrapped seal to make it a parchment look" :

<< picture removed : "You don't need it anymore" >>

12-05-2006, 11:32
I have to say the parchment look is pretty cool and rather distinctive. it gets my vote!

Brush your teeth
12-05-2006, 11:48
im not sure about the parchment it unbalances the look of it. id try and bring the yellow or purple across a bit

12-05-2006, 11:58
Wow, you realize Eldrok, that any pictures you post of mini's you've painted will from now on get "That was photoshopped" thrown at them :)


12-05-2006, 13:54
I suppose there is a slight danger oif that Eldrok, but I like what you've done with the scrolls.

Very cool model DV8, great work since your previous update.


12-05-2006, 22:27
i like it.

Kasrkin 666
12-05-2006, 22:44
/\You know you love it!;)

12-05-2006, 23:18
It's Chuck from MSN, long time no chat mate! It's looking bloody good, although not as good as your all-scout-army-of-doom.


15-05-2006, 07:07
My apologies for the late updates, but the call of life has kept me busy for the past few days. Did yellow for the Crozius handle (and I've decided to ditch the Heraldry shield as it's just...I dunno..more a distraction than anything. Also did the mural. Some minor tweaks methinks, but the model's almost done!

Biggest change is the base. After much deliberation, I ditched the stone base idea and went for a more traditional basing theme. I also picked up some display stands for my entries.



Captain Ardias
15-05-2006, 07:36
Wow, the cloak looks amazing. That just an incredible model, great work.

15-05-2006, 07:45
It would need to be a bloody good model to beat that.

Reign in Blood
15-05-2006, 08:12
That is so damn good. Now when I get that model (because it is one of my favourites), I have to keep comparing it to yours. That means mine will always be crap. I am very envious. I can't wait to find out how you will do.

15-05-2006, 09:20
Wow, awesome awesome model DV8! I thought the standing on the rock was good, because it kinda gave purpose to the swinging brazier, I mean it just looked right IMO on the rock, but hey its your model, I like the yellow handle, works well, and the mural is jaw dropping! Well done!!

15-05-2006, 10:25
Love the free had work on the cape. I would be amased if you dident geta GD award for this model

The boyz
15-05-2006, 10:47
Wow that is one very fine looking Chaplain DV8. I love the freehand on his cloak, that is fanatastic. I love the image of the Grim Reaper riding a horse into battle, very cool. The yellow on his Crozios and shoulder pad looks superb and is very well painted. I like the purple glow effect that you have achieved around his eyes, makes him look very sinister.

15-05-2006, 11:06
Indeed, the model itself is looking great. I do think that the base need significant work, whilst I far from liked the other one, this one is very plain, I would have though tiles or something would look best under this model.

I don't know, the base just seems a bit - meh - for this model.


15-05-2006, 17:41
Very nice work!

The only (minor) complaint I have is that the reaper on the cape looks a bit... well... comical. Almost like a caricature. But technically it's excellent.

15-05-2006, 23:51
i would not use this base. bases are part of the ones that win and tho this is a winning figure, its not sitting on a winning base.

22-05-2006, 20:23
I'm a heretic for not continuously posting updates the past week. I know.. :( *recites Litanies of Penitence*. I've talked it over with a lot of my friends (many being staffers at my local GW) and they've all agreed that the Crozius doesn't necessarily need a glaze to dull it down (though I'll let y'all argue against it along with reasons why... I may still tweak it on Friday).

I've also touched up any mistakes of mine, smoothed out the blending of the Scythe on the mural, touched up the gems, and painted the skulls on the base (yes...I added skulls...hyper-polished skulls at that). I've also added a subtle hint in the placement of the static grass, although I may tweak that a little more. Any thoughts on what I should add to the base?

FYI I'm going to have to tweak the Crozius a little more, as it's still looking a bit rough to me.


Fire away.


22-05-2006, 20:35
ooooo shiny!

looks very good,

the base under the purple cloak looks very grey,

the bottom of the reapers cloak on the base could do with being made abit bigger also i feel!

Good luck!

22-05-2006, 20:38
simply...spimply perfect.

22-05-2006, 20:54
Personally I think you will be going home with a statue...but thats just my opinoin.

22-05-2006, 20:58
That is amazing, I wish I had a tenth of your skill.

22-05-2006, 21:13
At the behest of JokersMinis on Bolter and Chainsword, here's some closeups:



22-05-2006, 21:13


22-05-2006, 21:19
Bwahaha its still an imperfect model! the collours of my computer screen arent drawed to the model, although it is bobling towards it. (for all you misfire comic fans)

Its realy incredible, but you just might put in a hint of green onto the brass parts to show its age. What about the eyes? will they remain white or will they become purple to...or black with a hint of purple (like black light ) to show the glaze?

Still incredible...

22-05-2006, 21:31
Best work I have EVER seen... just amazing.


22-05-2006, 23:09
beautiful, i like the grass sythe. and the yellow on the croz is nice as well

23-05-2006, 09:38
Nice touch with the grass, but the thing I wanted to see is the base coming up to match level with the top of the base, I think that would look better, even if it doesn't make it more interesting it certainly looks more professional and swish.


23-05-2006, 10:33
I don't know if I've posted here yet, but I have been keeping up with it. I'll get the praise out of the way first I guess! It's great painting, very neat, and a great choice of palette. All the colours work really well together.

Now for the criticism! I think that there are two areas that let the rest of the model down.

The parchment is good, but just not at the same very high level of the rest of the model. Compare the parchment to say the yellow shoulderpad and you'll see what I mean. It's all a bit too much of a mid tone. The lettering is great, but the base colour isn't as good I think.

Secondly, the Crux Terminatus. It looks very rough I'm afraid. It needs some neatening up, along with better colour (there's some discolouration of the white - possibly from someone holding the model itself). Compare the Crux to the skull helmet and you can really tell which has had more time spent on it.

These are minor points, and I'm quite happy for you (and everyone else for that matter) to disagree with me. Just thought I'd offer some advice considering you seem like the kind of person to want to constantly improve his art.

When's the competition by the way?

23-05-2006, 11:32
Thats one sweet Chaplin ,I love the cape :D ,Out of intrest how long have you been painting ? I would love you to paint my Legion of the Dammed marines :)

23-05-2006, 11:34
Absolutely stunning work!

This is obviously not a criticism, just an opinion, but I would like to be able to look him in the eye when up close. Eye contact is just something that human instinctively tryes to find and that is impossible now. I understand that this might be a deliberate thing, but it just crossed my mind when I watched this beautiful model.


24-05-2006, 15:01
Still absolutely awesome DV8!!! This is for GD 06 yeah? The UK one? If I am down at Games Day I will have a look see for this model, be interested to see what it looks like in real life, just as good, I feel sure!!

25-05-2006, 05:09
Some tweaks. I think the Crux Terminatus might require a few more glazes. I'm still not liking how it's looking (in terms of the transitions of the blends). I also tried painting grass on a spare base. Didn't really like how it was turning out. And I don't have the time to really fool around with the base as I have another entry to finish.

In regards to the purity seals, I actually like the tone they're at right now. As it's parchment, and not metal or some other such material, it wouldnt' make sense to have super-bright highlights and super-dark shadows. Also, I don't want to push it to white as it's just too much white on the model at that point.



25-05-2006, 05:10
I've also included closeups of the mural and of the skulls on the base.



25-05-2006, 05:48
I'm sorry to bring this up just now, but shouldn't Death's skull on the mural be somewhat smaller, or at least thinner? Right now, it looks a bit too big and cartoony.


25-05-2006, 16:55
Just curious, but is the picture on the back based loosely on the cover of the new Avenged Sevenfold CD? I just got that vibe the second I saw it :D Great job, you really put us peons in our place.

self biased
25-05-2006, 17:11
i think david bowman said it best when he said: "My God... It's full of stars..." exceptionally well done.

25-05-2006, 17:37
In regards to the purity seals, I actually like the tone they're at right now. As it's parchment, and not metal or some other such material, it wouldnt' make sense to have super-bright highlights and super-dark shadows. Also, I don't want to push it to white as it's just too much white on the model at that point.

Fair enough! It's probably just from the photos - because there's a lot of white on the model they look dull I think.
Are you going for the UK Demons? I'd love to see this guy up close.

25-05-2006, 18:08
I've actually never heard of the Angel Sevenfold CD. The mural was based on the idea of the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse (of which Death is one..the others are War, Famine and Pestilence), as well as the mounted scythe-wielding Death as dual imagery of the Chapter's alternate heraldry and the Chaplain's grim role.

And unfortunately, this is for the Canadian Golden Demons (in about 2 days, actually). Eek.

PS Oh, and FYI (this is at DeadlyHeadly), I've been painting for about 8..8 and a half years.


25-05-2006, 22:02
I like it, but I'm not too sure about the mushroom.

25-05-2006, 22:51
Why do the skulls have two rows of teeth, but no jaw bone?

Other than that excellent (I like the mushroom, very characterful), just, if and only if, you have time at the end, then please fix the base so that it curves up to the level of the actual model's base.


25-05-2006, 23:21
Why do the skulls have two rows of teeth, but no jaw bone?

The man has a point...

26-05-2006, 01:54
And unfortunately, this is for the Canadian Golden Demons (in about 2 days, actually). Eek.DV8

Oh my gosh! Oh my gosh! *Does happy dance*
Im going to that this saturday! First time i've ever gone to a gamesday. It would be pretty cool to meet the guy who did this awesome piece of work.