View Full Version : Warbands in a Legion Dex

15-01-2012, 17:07
So with the new Chaos Codex on the way and it being heavily suggested its heading back towards focusing on the Legions.

I was curious just how many fellow Chaos players embraced the idea of the warband, either mixed up their Legion colours, made their own renegade force or used one of the schemes from the dex.
Im sure quite a few ditched their Chaos armies when Legions were no longer viable, but how many of you embraced the new direction and if so how.

Also how much info and background do you think the Renegades that dominate the current Codex will be given in the upcoming release.

I for one took the opportunity to try something different, sidelining my Alpha Legion and designing my own Tzeentch themed Warband, Led by a Thousand Sons Sorceror in his efforts to rebuild the Thousand Sons Legion in part by inductingand incorporating fallen and corrupted renegades and in part perfecting his science in gene seed replication in an effort to eliminate the inherent flaw in the gene seed make up.

15-01-2012, 17:26
I honestly expect that the next Chaos dex will be like most 5th edition ones-many smaller things will be cut out, but the most important things will be available as upgrades to everyone and a few Special Characters will let you get even more legion specific.

15-01-2012, 18:28
I ditched my Legion when 4th edition came out and havn't looked back. My current warband mixes and matches almost every unit type (IE Thousand Sons, Berserks, Plague Marines, and normal CSMs). But with a new legion codex on the horizon I think my compromise is just to take Black Legion and paint a shoulder pad on each model black.

I hate the idea of shifting back and forth but so goes the nature of this hobby.

15-01-2012, 18:32
Back when I still played Chaos, I always endorsed the Warband concept. In most cases there simply isn't enough coherency left, and using mercenaries has always been common amongst the traitors. Mono God/Legion forces are actually the odd and uncommon, in some cases probably even unfluffy thing. Somewhat ironic...

16-01-2012, 00:34
I play a Warband that's mainly their own warband, with units or even individual marines mixed in from various Legions. I always have, even before the 4th Ed codex came out.

I stopped playing chaos with the 4th Ed book, not because Legion specific forces were unviable, but because they made the army too boring to play

With the possibility of a new book in this year or next, I'm actually currently dusting off and applying a few fresh licks of paint to my CSM's at the moment.

When the Legions dex comes along, I'll probably play them as Night Lords, as that suits my fluff (a chapter that specialises in stealth, surprise and rapid response to demoralise and terrify the enemy), my current models (lots of raptors and fast moving stuff) and my playing style.

16-01-2012, 00:51
Warband FTW as far as I'm concerned. If, like me, you're one of those people who likes his armies to fit nicely into the framework of 40K neatly then a Warband is a perfect way to have a fiddle about without upsetting the space-time continuum too much. Your Leader and his few followers are a warband that follows it's own destiny.
Perhaps you're an exile from your parent Legion, perhaps your legion doesn't operate as a cohesive whole any more, perhaps you're performing a task set you by your masters or maybe you're simply carving your way through the galaxy on a quest for immortality.

Yep, I'm going full warband if the next Codex produces on even half of the stuff that's been rumoured and, failing that, if an all Emperor's Children force is possible and not too bland.

16-01-2012, 01:31
I always mix and match.....I started off pure alpha Legion, read legion....then repainted all my alpha legion as black legion and slowly added on a few night lords, world eaters, word bearers...etc...never renegades though......I don't find those "Renegades" noteworthy tbh, I'll always see them as wannabes

When the legion dex pops up I'm gonna redo my alpha legion army "propa"

16-01-2012, 03:30
I had a pure Tzeentch Thousand Sons force but that didn't seem viable anymore with the now current codex. So I ended up making a renegade force run by a warptime Daemon prince and basically just consisting of "Mark of Chaos Glory" marines with various support units to help where needed (bezerkers, plague marines, raptors, tanks, obliterators, termies etc..)

Born Again
16-01-2012, 06:41
I've been playing as a warband force ever since 2nd edition, when the codex stated that, as some people like to forget, all the Legions were broken up in to warbands. Of course, a warband can still consist entirely of marines from one Legion.

If the new codex is Legion-centric as per the rumours, I'd hope GW does the right thing and rather than giving non-Legion marines and post-Heresy renegades the White Dwarf treatment, they just set aside the 3-4 pages in the book needed to let them get by as well.

16-01-2012, 08:41
I quite enjoy the way that the 2nd Edition Codex: Chaos handled the renegades. That is, they can purchase wargear and such from Codex: Space Marines at 1.5x the price. I'm not sure that would be feasible now, but it's still some food for thought.

I sold my Iron Warriors as we took the plunge into 5th Edition, because I wasn't happy with the miniatures that I'd assembled. Too many stock parts from the Chaos Space Marines box set; they didn't look anywhere near old enough to have actually taken part in the Horus Heresy (the army was crafted during 3rd Edition, before the nice Forge World kits), or individual enough for my liking. I also needed some cash, but I was sad to see them go.

Now, I have a broken and exiled Word Bearer Host with some allies from Ghalmek, the Black Legion and Thousand Sons. I've been putting a lot of thought into returning to the Iron Warriors as well, in the form of a Khornate/Nurglite dichotomy.

16-01-2012, 09:52
I'll admit it, I'm one of those diehards that plays a straight Legion because that's the way I see Chaos. I've never liked the mix and match way of recent Chaos. If I wanted that, I'd play Black Legion.

I welcome the return of a Legion codex. I might even bust my old IW and AL back out again, once it's released.

16-01-2012, 12:15
I suppose it will depend on what is done with the idea of Chaos in general. If, as has been rumoured in the past, the Chaos forces are split between Daemons, Legions and Scum (not the real term), I see more of a part for warbands under Scum. The Legions, in my mind at least, represent a grimdark image of apocalypse every bit as potent as things typically found in religious texts.

With regards,

16-01-2012, 12:43
I'm looking forward to all of it.

I've got a huge IW force (30k pts), 3k in pure TS, 2k in pure WE. I have lost and the damned army that has been languishing (10k pts). I'd love to be ablt to use them again. I have Khorne, Tzeentch, and Slanish daemon armies. Here's hoping 6th makes them good.

16-01-2012, 12:53
I'm gonna play pure Death Guard army, hope I don't have to take Typhus to get some form of upgrade for my army. Not that I dislike him I use him a lot but sometimes I would like to play my own character have him lead them like a warband.

Love to be able to play plague zombies also, that would be a dream haha.

16-01-2012, 18:30
I pretty much quit 40K when the current dex came out. I played the odd game of Apocalypse so I could still field my IW, but I didn't play regular 40K. If they do focus on legions again, I will start playing with my IW again. I will bring out my IW second company (WE list, but IW colors). I am even thinking about starting an end of the HH Sons of Horus army since there is a pretty nice Horus mini out there now. There are also rumors of a Little Horus character too.