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Brother Muninn
25-01-2012, 21:41
I won a Battalion army box in a competition lately, which led me to wonder which Fantasy army would get me the most army for my buck.

To figure out which army was most cost effective I went to the Army Lists Forum & compiled 3-4 2000 point lists from every army, then figured out how much it would cost to build each list, then averaged the data.

I treated it as though I was just starting out, had no bits, or friends to trade with. So if the list called for 19 Glade Guard I purchased two boxes (which would mean I bought 13 extra minis)

To be as cost effective as possible I tried to use the cheapest mini available for the unit selection (usually meant “buying” generic HQ minis and battalion boxes when it was cheaper to do so). This probably isn’t totally accurate for a few reasons (such as listing minis there aren’t actual models for), but it’s a pretty good stab at it.

For High Elves & Skaven I also figured out how much the armies would cost if I bought Island of Blood Sea Guard, Swordmasters, or Clan Rats from a bits website, it made quite a difference.

So here’s the list from cheapest to most expensive:
Daemons of Chaos ~ $329.38
Warriors of Chaos ~ $333.25
High Elves ~ $342.08 (316.25 with bits)
Brettonians ~ $363.67
Wood Elves ~ $391.00
Tomb Kings ~ $401.58
Lizardmen ~ $412.92
Ogre Kingdoms ~ $420.00
Dwarves ~ $421.25
Beastmen ~ $428.17
Dark Elves ~ $451.67
Vampire Counts ~ $465.25
The Empire ~ $498.33
Skaven ~ $603.67 (539.50 with bits)
Orcs & Goblins ~ $684.67

You can see that Daemons top the list for cheapest Army unless you account for buying Island of Blood High Elf bits. the two biggest horde armies are sitting at the bottom, and I was surprised to see O&G at the very bottom (since I already have an O&G army).

The cheapest single army was a balanced Wood Elves list at $276.25, and the most expensive was an O&G Night Goblin Squig heavy list $740.40

Hope you find this interesting.

~Muninn

Righthandedtwin
25-01-2012, 21:53
Quite interesting, a lot of people placed OK as the cheapest, didn't realise it'd sit around the center mark...although I had expected Beastmen to be a bit cheaper than that O.o...still nice to see VC aren't in the bottom two although you might have to tack on 2-3 boxes of Zombies for "summoned units" since they don't count against PTS allowance but the typical VC player can summon up to 100 of them in a game.

Harwammer
25-01-2012, 21:58
Not really suprised about beastmen. The typical army* is based heavily around the battalion but it's expensive for what it is.



*@Brother Muninn was the typical beastman lists based around gor/ungor/bestigor (i.e. spamming the battalion)?

Rosstifer
25-01-2012, 22:19
Wish it was that cheap to build armies in NZ. Still not over it!

Righthandedtwin
25-01-2012, 22:20
Well using conversion rates

the $75 BRB is only 45 here in england

so that $600 O&G army is more like 300+

Feefait
25-01-2012, 22:26
Kinda hurts to see it in black and white. Nice job on running this though. Guess my TK army is stll wish listed...

I think OK are up there simply because of the new prices on the models and their lowered points values. In previous editions they'd be the cheapest I'd think.

someone2040
25-01-2012, 22:26
Orcs and Goblins are a bit of an odd one though. Most of those lists probably have a huge amount of Night Goblins based on cheapies gotten from Battle for Skull Pass.
So buying smart would probably cut costs quite a bit. But of course the OP mentions that he doesn't really include strolling through ebay for cheaper deals.

therisnosaurus
25-01-2012, 22:27
and something like $1100 down here in australia :(

Wesser
25-01-2012, 22:27
Surprised at brets and woodies being so low.

They and dwarves are the armies that has the largest amount of metal left in them, so thought the'd be top-scorers.

Odd thing is ... I just bought a 3000 pts army (with magic items and stuff though) of Vampire counts, which cost me 340 pounds... more than 100 pounds less than what you got.

Maybe I got a slightly cheaper vendor, or maybe mortis engines are very expensive or sumthing. Amusing list though

Korraz
25-01-2012, 22:34
Quite interesting, a lot of people placed OK as the cheapest, didn't realise it'd sit around the center mark...

That's probably still from back, when you could essentially build the whole range (safe probably Gorgers and Scraplaunchers, if you couldn't scratchbuild one, and of course the Yhetees, which nobody used) from the Battalion. Two boxes, and you had something approaching 2k-2.5k points.

Righthandedtwin
25-01-2012, 22:36
That's probably still from back, when you could essentially build the whole range (safe probably Gorgers and Scraplaunchers, if you couldn't scratchbuild one, and of course the Yhetees, which nobody used) from the Battalion. Two boxes, and you had something approaching 2k-2.5k points.

You can still theoretically built it from 2 battalions and a Butcher model at about let's see....144.50 for about a 2-2.5k army which is what in dollars? liiikkkeee....$200+?

eron12
25-01-2012, 22:41
Well that was not the most encouraging thing for me to read as I start my O&G army, though I plan to use ebay and alternate models to bring costs down. I too am surprised WEs and dwarfs were where they were.

Harwammer
25-01-2012, 22:53
Seeing how low brets and woodelves are highlights how well they've escaped the prices increases (perhaps in part due to a lack of armybook update :P)

I ran up a fairly typical 2k beastman army (GBS in 30 bestigor with +1Ld, 206 BSB, 2 shaman, 40 gor, 4x6 unbows, 2x5 hounds, 6 harpies, 3 razorgor) and it came to $433* so your numbers seem about right.

*mordheim warband, 2 battalions, 1 bestigor box, 1 hound box, 3 harpy blisters, 2 razorgor, 1 mordheim thing in the woods and 2 shaman blisters... you could save $16 by converting the 2 spare gor into shamans

Skywave
25-01-2012, 23:05
That's interesting, but is that using more "balanced list" rather than aiming for the lowest cost possible? Like said above about Ogres, you could get away with 2 or so battalions and a few conversions, so while it might not be optimum, some army army could probaby being made for cheaper.

Brother Muninn
25-01-2012, 23:31
*@Brother Muninn was the typical beastman lists based around gor/ungor/bestigor (i.e. spamming the battalion)?
Of the three Beastman lists I used one used two boxes, one used a single box, and the third didn't have any (it had 60 Gors, but no Ungors or Bestigors).


Orcs and Goblins are a bit of an odd one though. Most of those lists probably have a huge amount of Night Goblins based on cheapies gotten from Battle for Skull Pass.
So buying smart would probably cut costs quite a bit. But of course the OP mentions that he doesn't really include strolling through ebay for cheaper deals.
Only one of the lists spammed night gobbos. Although I'd wager the one that did made extensive use of BFSP minis.


Surprised at brets and woodies being so low.

They and dwarves are the armies that has the largest amount of metal left in them, so thought the'd be top-scorers.

Odd thing is ... I just bought a 3000 pts army (with magic items and stuff though) of Vampire counts, which cost me 340 pounds... more than 100 pounds less than what you got.

Maybe I got a slightly cheaper vendor, or maybe mortis engines are very expensive or sumthing. Amusing list though
I figured the dwarves would be lower because there weren't any "big ticket" models (Ghogons, Terrorgheists, etc) and many of their units can be made out of two different boxes. So if an army list called for Thunderers and Rangers, I could combine them from a single box. Good catch on the cheap VCs.


Well that was not the most encouraging thing for me to read as I start my O&G army, though I plan to use ebay and alternate models to bring costs down. I too am surprised WEs and dwarfs were where they were.
I know how you feel. I've had a mostly started O&G army for a few years now. If I'd known about this I might've gone High Elves instead.


Seeing how low brets and woodelves are highlights how well they've escaped the prices increases (perhaps in part due to a lack of armybook update :P)

I ran up a fairly typical 2k beastman army (GBS in 30 bestigor with +1Ld, 206 BSB, 2 shaman, 40 gor, 4x6 unbows, 2x5 hounds, 6 harpies, 3 razorgor) and it came to $433* so your numbers seem about right.

*mordheim warband, 2 battalions, 1 bestigor box, 1 hound box, 3 harpy blisters, 2 razorgor, 1 mordheim thing in the woods and 2 shaman blisters... you could save $16 by converting the 2 spare gor into shamans
Now that you mention it, I didn't take Mordheim minis or troop to HQ conversions into account. I just wanted to see pound for pound, how the armies stacked up against each other.


That's interesting, but is that using more "balanced list" rather than aiming for the lowest cost possible? Like said above about Ogres, you could get away with 2 or so battalions and a few conversions, so while it might not be optimum, some army army could probaby being made for cheaper.
The lists were taken directly from the Army List forum here on Warseer. Some of the lists probably varied from what you'd usually see. A few of them were "theme" lists too (Like a Dwarven Deep Strike list) and these tended to be more expensive. I figured this would be mitigated by averaging several different lists together.

Another thing to consider is that these are all 2k lists. At 1k they would look significantly different, with far fewer of the big ticket items. So smaller lists would likely stack up differently than what i've posted.

~Muninn

davem2907
25-01-2012, 23:43
recently spent around 500 english pounds building quite a good beastmen army but this is around the 2500point range but also has enough in there to chop and change with who i am battling against such as pleanty of brute strength to face my friends ogres and strength in numbers against skaven and a good selection of magic and monsters to take on high elfs

Korraz
25-01-2012, 23:46
You can still theoretically built it from 2 battalions and a Butcher model at about let's see....144.50 for about a 2-2.5k army which is what in dollars? liiikkkeee....$200+?

Yes, but nowadays you want some fancy toys too, like Mournfangs or a monster or two. You can still do it, but it'll be boring and look pretty shoddy in the face of all the cool toys.

dementian
25-01-2012, 23:51
Annnnd I own the two most expensive armies...

Neat list really interesting in case I look to expand my number of armies in the future thanks!

Skywave
26-01-2012, 02:22
The lists were taken directly from the Army List forum here on Warseer. Some of the lists probably varied from what you'd usually see. A few of them were "theme" lists too (Like a Dwarven Deep Strike list) and these tended to be more expensive. I figured this would be mitigated by averaging several different lists together.


Ok, so you went with more of a general cost rather than the cheapest army list possible, that's cool and it brings a different view of it. Did you used battalion for those cost even if it contained some unused units, like say, a Tomb Kings battalion or 2 without using the cavary in it, or were you using only unit box in those case?

quietus1986
26-01-2012, 04:08
My ork and goblins army only costs around 300-400€ and its around 5000pnts ( with a **** lode of goblins only have 2 units of orks in it).
and oke my vampire counts hase cost me around 700€ and it will be around 10000pnts ( and that with the new book)

Brother Muninn
26-01-2012, 05:46
Ok, so you went with more of a general cost rather than the cheapest army list possible, that's cool and it brings a different view of it. Did you used battalion for those cost even if it contained some unused units, like say, a Tomb Kings battalion or 2 without using the cavary in it, or were you using only unit box in those case?

Yes, but only if it was cheaper as a whole. One High Elf army used every aspect of the Battalion except for the Chariot. Even though it didn't use the one unit, it was still $7.50 cheaper than buying each box individually.

~Muninn

Maskedman5oh4
26-01-2012, 05:56
The armies get really skewd when you start adding in hordes of elites at $41.25 a box. For Christmas this year I got 6 boxes of Empire Greatswords; they were purchased from thewarstore.com, so I was discounted. However, my current employment could never allow me to purchase 6 boxes of Greatswords in one go, even at a discount.

Righthandedtwin
26-01-2012, 06:53
There is always a way to downsize the coast of armies, usually by getting battalions at 60 a piece, you can get around 80-100 worth of models so already make a 40 discount, since Battalions will make a core force for most Horde armies then just slap on some extra elite type units and you reduce the cost significantly.

Liber
26-01-2012, 08:21
That was alot of work you put in there Brother Muninn...so I found it odd you didn't take the extra step to find the average price for a 2k point warhammer fantasy army (based on the data you collected) so i went ahead and did it - Approximately $440.

Yup, pretty damn high for what really is a medium size army. By the way, feel free to post this number in your original post Brother Muninn, I think the data you collected is really interesting for people to read, and the average price should be included.

Righthandedtwin
26-01-2012, 08:26
Although Brother Munnin, it would be interesting to see the same stats for 40k then we could get a rough comparison between the two for which hobby is cheaper on average and which forces that equate over (i.e. daemons - daemons, CSM - WoC, GK - Brets, Eldar - Helves) are more cost effective when you swap from one BRB to a BGB.

Shimmergloom
26-01-2012, 15:29
I have doubts about this list being really accurate. When the 8th O&G book came out, just the book, 1 box of savages, 1 box of savage boars, arachnarok and a blister of skulkers cost me over $130 before shipping from the warstore, which gives a 20% discount. That's for 19 models and a book. I think $600 for a greenskin army is generous. As are all the other prices.

Shimmergloom
26-01-2012, 16:03
I'll do a cost comparison of what my 2500pt army that I took to my last games would cost if I bought it with today's prices(it is a cross between 4th edition models, bfsp ngs, conversions, some non-gw minis and some savage torso bits I got from ebay). Bfsp is no longer being made, so you can't assume new people would know to look on ebay for it, so I will figure the price without bfsp and with ebay bfsp.

1. savage great shaman general = wuzzrag model, $17
2. savage shaman = $13.25
3. savage big boss w/gw = assume someone bought the orc warboss plastic set to make one: $26.50
4. night goblin bsb = assume this is made from a regular night goblin standard: $0
5. 4 goblin big bosses w/gw = $9.90 each or $39.60
6. 2 night goblin big bosses w/gw = assume people used bfsp model or bought them for $9.90 each or $19.80
7. 40 savage big'uns = $116
8. 96 ngs, 96 ngs, 24 ngs = 11 boxes of ngs: $385. On ebay bfsp goblins seem to go for about $15-20 for 20. So assume 17.50 for 20 makes it $192.50
9. Single troll: $22.50 or on ebay the bfsp troll seems to be about $5
10. 2 wolf chariots: $33 each or $66
11. 2 lobbas: $38 each or $76
12. Doom diver: $35
13. 2 manglers: $57.75 each, $115.50 or I will give the benefit of the doubt that a complete newb would know to split the box for 2 manglers and a 2nd 60mm base just materializes out of thin air.
14. Army book: $41.25

Total:
at full price: $972.40
with 20% discount: $778.72
using bfsp ngs, big bosses, troll and 2 for 1 mangler: $685.85

The bottom one is closer to your data, so you were pretty much accurate. The top one is something that too many people have to deal with though. Because no new person knows to check ebay and no GW store is going to tell them to do so, so when they see that it's over $1000 w/tax to make an army and then they still need a $75 rule book and maybe paint, that's too insane to contemplate.

Brother Muninn
26-01-2012, 16:23
I have doubts about this list being really accurate. When the 8th O&G book came out, just the book, 1 box of savages, 1 box of savage boars, arachnarok and a blister of skulkers cost me over $130 before shipping from the warstore, which gives a 20% discount. That's for 19 models and a book. I think $600 for a greenskin army is generous. As are all the other prices.

Well one of the difficulties with O&G is that nobody used units out of their Battalion box other than Orc Boys, so it was never cost effective to use a cheaper alternative (none of the lists I saw used plain Goblins, Spider Riders, or Boar Boys). Plus I wasn't basing my data on potential discounts (other than the bits option for HE & Skaven)

Here's an example. You can find the list here (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?328340-O-amp-G-2000pt) if you'd like to check my math:
Orc big boss______________ $15
4 night goblin shamans_____ $30
night goblin big boss_______ $9.9
39 orc boyz______________ $116
20 night goblins___________$35
5 wolf riders______________$35
8 trolls__________________$180
30 black orcs_____________$123.75
2 boar chariot____________ $60
Spear chukka_____________$29.75
Goblin doomdiver__________$35
Giant___________________ $49.5
___________________total $718.9

I actually double checked my math on this one & found that I had underestimated the cost a bit, but this is the middle list in terms of expense for the O&G lists I used.

~Muninn

IcedCrow
26-01-2012, 16:54
My necron army ran me $850. My tomb kings ran about $825. The cost between systems is about the same IMO.

Morkash
26-01-2012, 16:57
I agree with O&G not being exactly cheap. If you started during the BfSP period, the price is significantly lower, since the usual price for the Gobbo set was around 25-30€/$ depending on the current situation. What makes them expensive are the special units, especially large units of trolls, Squigs of any kind, and warmachines. You go significantly cheaper with buying older Warmachine models from ebay for example: I bought a Marauder Rock Lobba and a older Citadel Rock Lobba from the 80's...for less than 20€ combined, compared to 65 for 2 (finecast...) Rock Lobbas.

What makes an O&G army so incredibly expensive is the amount you have to buy. Or rather the urge to own 'em all! I have around 10k points in Green, but do not own a giant, Boar boyz (only 5 Savages), Squigs (only 5 or 6 used as unit fillers) or Trolls! A second Arachnarok could not hurt, neither another BfSP set, or cavalry, or more warmachines...well, you get the point. :shifty:
(Did I mention around 25 character models? And I do not own all yet... :cries:)

Ogres are only cheap if you infantry heavy. Well, it is a cheap army still, especially if you convert the characters. A single battalion can give you a 1000 point starter army. Bit bland maybe, but still fieldable. Add 2 boxes or Mournfangs, another Battalion and maybe an Ironblaster or two and you got yourself a solid force. For around 300$.

Still, the list is very useful, Brother Muninn, good job!

Shimmergloom
27-01-2012, 04:05
Well one of the difficulties with O&G is that nobody used units out of their Battalion box other than Orc Boys, so it was never cost effective to use a cheaper alternative (none of the lists I saw used plain Goblins, Spider Riders, or Boar Boys). Plus I wasn't basing my data on potential discounts (other than the bits option for HE & Skaven)

Here's an example. You can find the list here (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?328340-O-amp-G-2000pt) if you'd like to check my math:
Orc big boss______________ $15
4 night goblin shamans_____ $30
night goblin big boss_______ $9.9
39 orc boyz______________ $116
20 night goblins___________$35
5 wolf riders______________$35
8 trolls__________________$180
30 black orcs_____________$123.75
2 boar chariot____________ $60
Spear chukka_____________$29.75
Goblin doomdiver__________$35
Giant___________________ $49.5
___________________total $718.9

I actually double checked my math on this one & found that I had underestimated the cost a bit, but this is the middle list in terms of expense for the O&G lists I used.

~Muninn

You didn't include the army book as I did. So that at least adds $41.25 to the cost. And your list is 2k, while mine is 2500pts. So that is basically the difference entirely.

Also, only 20ngs is not going to cut it for an O&G player, so it is kind of unfair to make that list in such a way with only 1 box of ngs. The extra 500pts pretty much has to be all ngs for it to look anything like a common O&G army.

boli
27-01-2012, 08:51
This list although interesting is very subjective.

At the most basic level a skaven army for instance will tend to have a lot of core models (clanrats/plaguemonks/stormvermin and the skaven slaves ofc)... and then there are the high elf armies which on the whole are build around more special units... with a much smaller model count.

What would be more telling is per point score. e.g.

High Elf Dragon Princes - 5 models full command - 18.50 - 200 points - 9.25p per point.
High Elf Silver Helms - 8 models full command - 20.00 - 208 points - 9.62p per point
Skaven Stormvermin - 20 models full command - 30.75 - 165 points - 18.63p per point

Trying to find an "average" 2.5k list to work out how much you'll need to spend to get an army will never work for the many reaons you've stated... a horde of swormasters for instance without going to ebay would cost a fortune as you buy 5 metal at a time - ditto with eternal guard as well.

angelofrage
27-01-2012, 10:41
Interesting thread, I try not to think of it as a one off "big ticket" purchase. I end up buying a few bits each month and work with what I have as I go along. My first venture back to Fantasy in over a decade is a full FW Chaos Dwarf army, I'd hate to work out how much that would cost me in one go, but it's more digestible if it's split over a number of different purchases month by month.

Out of interest how many people buy their army in one big chunk, rather than working on it a unit at a time over the months?

lbecks
27-01-2012, 11:12
That wood elf battalion is an excellent deal. Same price as when it was released.

Harwammer
27-01-2012, 11:17
Interesting thread, I try not to think of it as a one off "big ticket" purchase. I end up buying a few bits each month and work with what I have as I go along. My first venture back to Fantasy in over a decade is a full FW Chaos Dwarf army, I'd hate to work out how much that would cost me in one go, but it's more digestible if it's split over a number of different purchases month by month.

Out of interest how many people buy their army in one big chunk, rather than working on it a unit at a time over the months?
Agreed. My empire army started as a small modelling project (box of militia + knights) spilled over into a couple of Mordheim warbands (more militia, some flagellants, a halfling hot pot and a wizard box) and kind of grew from there (adding in some old DoW and 5th ed bret pieces I had knocking about).

I am thinking about bulking a 40k army. Some renegade Blood Angels with a Slaanesh fetish (space vampires) BUT I don't really know much about effective armies in 40k so it will probably be just a few bits and bobs from Forgeworld or a couple of battle force boxes depending on what level paint job I want to do. If I tried to make it effective it would probably get neutered by 6th ed 40k or a new codex :P

zak
27-01-2012, 11:43
I still think it's a useful comparison. Certainly each army can go far more expensive with select builds, but for an average cost it's about right. I don't tend to think of the army as an overall cost as like others my armies are a mix of 3rd-8th edition models collected piece meal month by month.

Brother Muninn
30-01-2012, 01:54
Out of interest how many people buy their army in one big chunk, rather than working on it a unit at a time over the months?

Honestly, I don't know anyone that buys in bulk. That is one of the reasons I've bought so few battalions myself though. When you build piece by piece I don't know if people buy the army boxes that would end up saving them money.

~Muninn

shelfunit.
30-01-2012, 06:01
Since you are building the army list as if you were "just starting out" did you add the costs of an army book and the rules too ($115.50)?

Dreadlordpaul
30-01-2012, 07:26
my warriors of chaos army cost me 124 pounds. thats basically a sorceror army book and 2 battalions. out of those 2 batalions i made 40 maruders 1 chaos lord on chaos steed 1 bsb on steed 20 hounds 24 warriors and 8 chaos knights. I then converted my warshrine out of a corpse cart and spare bits.

Sh4d0w
30-01-2012, 09:23
to the person that said you could get 2 battalions and a butcher for $200.............hahahaha i live in Australia, prices are so ridiculous here it costs us about $350 for that :/

Righthandedtwin
30-01-2012, 09:58
DoC being cheapest...hmmm now that's a bit of a tough one as a DoC army can be a small tiny little army probably around 60-90 models so would be fairly cheap but it can also be quite Hordey and expensive. One of the things I think you left out of the Daemons is Magnets, they are pretty much mandatory so that your Daemons can be detached from bases and moved across game systems. so it'd be good to know from this list what the additional cost associated with these magents is.


to the person that said you could get 2 battalions and a butcher for $200.............hahahaha i live in Australia, prices are so ridiculous here it costs us about $350 for that :/

I live in England where the Battallions cost 60 and the Butcher is like 10.50 or something so fairly cheap for us due to the strength of the Pound Sterling, strange they use exchange rates to make thier money but if GW put a flat cost across the board so Battallions are 60/$60/60 (I don't know how to get a euro symbol on my keyboard) they'd make a lot more money over seas and the hobby could grow more as a result of it becoming more widely played over seas...just imagine you US and Aus players getting your own versions of Warhammer World.

Lorcryst
30-01-2012, 11:26
Interesting and depressing thread ... some of the figures look right, but if I might add, the DoC army doesn't include any Nurgle units ...

Nurgle DoC is the *only* army with all metal models, and at 50 for a GUO, 39 for Epidemius (only official model for a Herald), 26 for 5 Plaguebearers with Command (and 20 for 5 without Command), 15 for two bases of Nurglings (and you need three for the minimum size unit), and 19.50 for a Beast of Nurgle, a mono-Nurgle army price skyrockets really fast ...

I'm slowly trying to make one using eBay as much as possible, but still, ouchie.

Brother Muninn
30-01-2012, 20:49
Since you are building the army list as if you were "just starting out" did you add the costs of an army book and the rules too ($115.50)?
I didn't, no. I figured the price would be pretty much the same (or should be) so I left that cost out.


DoC being cheapest...hmmm now that's a bit of a tough one as a DoC army can be a small tiny little army probably around 60-90 models so would be fairly cheap but it can also be quite Hordey and expensive. One of the things I think you left out of the Daemons is Magnets, they are pretty much mandatory so that your Daemons can be detached from bases and moved across game systems. so it'd be good to know from this list what the additional cost associated with these magents is.
I myself play daemons in 40k, so I found the fact that the daemon lists are cheap to be interesting. The lists i found made extensive use of Heralds for their hero slots, only one army used a greater daemon, and none of them used Soul Grinders. I didn't build the data around conversions either, so I didn't toss in anything around magnets.


Interesting and depressing thread ... some of the figures look right, but if I might add, the DoC army doesn't include any Nurgle units ...

Nurgle DoC is the *only* army with all metal models, and at 50 for a GUO, 39 for Epidemius (only official model for a Herald), 26 for 5 Plaguebearers with Command (and 20 for 5 without Command), 15 for two bases of Nurglings (and you need three for the minimum size unit), and 19.50 for a Beast of Nurgle, a mono-Nurgle army price skyrockets really fast ...

I'm slowly trying to make one using eBay as much as possible, but still, ouchie.
None of the DoC lists I used were solo nurgle, one used 2 units of Plague Bearers, but no more. I ended up doing a comparison of how much a 40k Doc list costs on average, and they run about $440. The 40k players make much more extensive use of Greater Daemons, Plague Bearers, and Soul Grinders, so their armies cost a lot more.

~Muninn

Grimstonefire
30-01-2012, 20:57
Considering you could scratch build parts of it (as there are no GW models for prices), the Legion of Azgorh would actually come out reasonably well on this I imagine due to the very low model count.

Righthandedtwin
03-02-2012, 12:48
Considering you could scratch build parts of it (as there are no GW models for prices), the Legion of Azgorh would actually come out reasonably well on this I imagine due to the very low model count.

Azgorh?

Also it'd be interesting to see how Chaos Dwarves factor in now we have Throne out.

thesoundofmusica
03-02-2012, 13:06
My ork and goblins army only costs around 300-400 and its around 5000pnts ( with a **** lode of goblins only have 2 units of orks in it).
and oke my vampire counts hase cost me around 700 and it will be around 10000pnts ( and that with the new book)

You have to consider you've probably collected big armies like that for quite some time. Without question there has been a noticeable price increase since I last played (5th/6th ed) and I no longer see those awesome christmas deals like buy 3 pay for 2 in GW stores. Ebay etc could also save alot of money depending on where you live (shipping etc). There's money to be saved shopping outside of GW thats for sure.

OP is very interesting idd.