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agurus1
15-03-2012, 19:02
Hey there, so I am building up an IG Armoured Company, and I was thinking about using the Mars Alpha Pattern Leman Russ Conversion Kit (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/MARS-ALPHA-PATTERN-LEMAN-RUSS-CONVERSION-KIT.html) from Forge World. However it says in the description that the kit was not designed for the current Leman Russ model that GamesWorkshop sells, so I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience with using this kit with the modern Leman Russ model. What kind of conversion work is needed to make it fit with the model? Thanks Warseer! :chrome:

agurus1
16-03-2012, 02:57
guess it must not be a very popular piece. I e-mailed Forge World but they just gave me the basic, some conversion work where the tracks and turret go is required, but I was hoping for some more in-depth first hand experience before I start committing my hard earned dollars :P

AlphariusOmegon20
16-03-2012, 05:24
Hey there, so I am building up an IG Armoured Company, and I was thinking about using the Mars Alpha Pattern Leman Russ Conversion Kit (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/MARS-ALPHA-PATTERN-LEMAN-RUSS-CONVERSION-KIT.html) from Forge World. However it says in the description that the kit was not designed for the current Leman Russ model that GamesWorkshop sells, so I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience with using this kit with the modern Leman Russ model. What kind of conversion work is needed to make it fit with the model? Thanks Warseer! :chrome:

You can't use it with the current kit. GW redesigned the size of the turret hull hole when they redid the kit and theFW kit is designed to use the older OOP Russ hull.

I'd personally say that to make the FW kit work with the current Hull, would require a LOT of work and IMO wouldn't really be worth it.

Sons of Lorgar
16-03-2012, 08:28
It's just a question of sawing off the tap on the FW turret and glue the plastic bottom from the GW turret (if adapting FW turrets to plastic hulls), OR cut the turret ring off of a plastic GW russ and glue it to the Mars alpha hull turret ring. Or you can just opt to get FW resin turrets for your Mars alpha hulls and opt out of the conversions as far as turret goes. As for the track sections, I'd guess it's a matter of cutting off parts of the plastic guide rail for glueing the plastic track assemblies to the plastic hull as the shape of the plastic hull has been slightly altered from the old version.

AndrewGPaul
16-03-2012, 10:02
The old plastic Leman Russ turrets needed the locating lugs cut off the connecting ring to fit in the Mars Alpha hull.

The easiest way might be to glue two 25mm round bases together then glue those to the bottom of the turrets you wish to use. It's nearly the same diameter as the hole in the Mars Alpha hull; a little smaller, so it won't be a tight fit, but it's a simple solution.

agurus1
17-03-2012, 00:48
thanks for the replies so far! lots of help! so for sure some work with the turret, most likely removing the plastic leman russ turret ring, and somehow mating it to the mars alpha hull. that doesn't sound too bad. does anyone know for sure how much work or what kind of work would be needed for using the new tracks with the mars alpha hull?

I really like the extended look of the mars alpha hull thats why I'm so invested in learning all about it that I can.

Vaulkhar
17-03-2012, 02:12
My experience of getting the Mars Alpha to play with the revamped Russ kit was...actually rather painless.

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k524/Vaulkhar1/001.jpg

The Mars Alpha in front is from mid-late 2011, using the revamped Russ kit, while the standard hull behind was done in early 2012 (from the redone Demolisher kit, as it happens). The track units mated to the hull piece without any problems that I can remember.

The key difference was in the turret ring (and therefore making the turrets fit). For comparison:


http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k524/Vaulkhar1/004.jpg

L-R: Stock Punisher turret, FW Ryza pattern turret and a (slightly tweaked) stock Exterminator turret.

And turning them over:

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k524/Vaulkhar1/005-1.jpg


Pretty much all I had to do to make the 'stock' turret fit the mars alpha was to take off the lugs (compare the Punisher and the Exterminator).

agurus1
17-03-2012, 06:46
My experience of getting the Mars Alpha to play with the revamped Russ kit was...actually rather painless.

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k524/Vaulkhar1/001.jpg

The Mars Alpha in front is from mid-late 2011, using the revamped Russ kit, while the standard hull behind was done in early 2012 (from the redone Demolisher kit, as it happens). The track units mated to the hull piece without any problems that I can remember.

The key difference was in the turret ring (and therefore making the turrets fit). For comparison:


http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k524/Vaulkhar1/004.jpg

L-R: Stock Punisher turret, FW Ryza pattern turret and a (slightly tweaked) stock Exterminator turret.

And turning them over:

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k524/Vaulkhar1/005-1.jpg


Pretty much all I had to do to make the 'stock' turret fit the mars alpha was to take off the lugs (compare the Punisher and the Exterminator).

you are a lifesaver man, that is exactly what I needed to know. thanks! great looking tanks by the way. where did you get the trench rails, from forge world when they were still making them or second party? I can't find any anywhere!

Sgt John Keel
17-03-2012, 09:13
you are a lifesaver man, that is exactly what I needed to know. thanks! great looking tanks by the way. where did you get the trench rails, from forge world when they were still making them or second party? I can't find any anywhere!

The DKoK Leman Russes should come with them: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Guard/Death-Korps-of-Krieg?page=2

AndrewGPaul
18-03-2012, 13:14
Valkhar, if that Leman Russ Mars Alpha hull is unmodified by you, then it looks like it has been redesgned by Forge World. Mine have wider turret rings, like the original Leman Russ kit.

agurus1
19-03-2012, 22:30
so does anyone have any idea where I might get some alpha pattern hulls for cheap? I've been scouring ebay lately, but are there any online shops that have forge world categories, or anyone here willing to trade?

agurus1
21-03-2012, 21:10
no ideas on where to get this conversion kit outside of forgeworld?

Sgt John Keel
21-03-2012, 22:13
no ideas on where to get this conversion kit outside of forgeworld?

How do you mean? It is rather unlikely to find it discounted new, as Forgeworld does not deal with resellers. If you mean used, I'd say that's highly situational.

AlphariusOmegon20
22-03-2012, 00:40
no ideas on where to get this conversion kit outside of forgeworld?

I see them on eBay every now and then still unbuilt and in the bag.


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agurus1
22-03-2012, 03:21
yeah I would want it either used or new but on eBay. I've been scouring that site since I posted up this thread lol. Just don't feel like shelling out the cash. at almost $25 a kit, it would add up fast, even if I just wanted to do only the command tanks.