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SteelTitan
04-05-2012, 13:16
Easy enough question :)


In total I have:

60 skeletons
40 zombies
20 dire wolves (can be raised beyond starting size with Vampiric power)
8 fell bats (can be raised beyond starting size with Vampiric power)

Considering i field all skeletons and all zombies, as well as 10 dire wolves (I will experiment with 4x5 in my next games) and 4 fell bats I am horribly short on back-up models. :rolleyes:

Dreadlordpaul
04-05-2012, 13:28
It depends what im raising to be honest. I generally take big blocks of skeletons so that i have no need for master of the dead and with zómbies i just use my dark elves infantry for the raised zombies.

Fruhauf
04-05-2012, 13:39
I have about 75 of both zombies and skeletons, normally running a big 50 block of skeletons and smaller (normally 20-30) for zombies, that way I don't need MotD for Skeletons. Typically I would run ~50 of each in a total list, but with raise dead I just about have enough cover for both in point games up to about 2000. Anything larger and I'm struggling to fill in the minimum 500 pt + for core without having backup. I do however, have 'unit fillers' by which I mean base sizes that would cover 4 zombies/skeletons but only have 2-3 on them, so I gain about an extra 10% models compared to what I actually have.

snyggejygge
04-05-2012, 15:10
I normally field 60 skellies & 30 zombies as my core, I have about 40 extra skellies & 30 extra zombies, so guess I'm a bit shorthanded as well.

quietus1986
04-05-2012, 15:24
I use little arm's out of the ground and headstones as raised skeletons and zombie's think I have around 20

Malorian
04-05-2012, 15:27
I use little arm's out of the ground and headstones as raised skeletons and zombie's think I have around 20

Shame on you.


I have 20 skeletons and 60 zombies. I find it's all I need.

Dreadlordpaul
04-05-2012, 15:31
All my skeletons are bits coming out of the ground and im planning to put a mini cemetary inn the middle

quietus1986
04-05-2012, 15:35
I have A unit of 100 zombie's one of 20 a unit of 70 skeletons 40 and 25. and only 20 to raise

Malorian
04-05-2012, 15:47
All my skeletons are bits coming out of the ground and im planning to put a mini cemetary inn the middle

Now I know for certain that you're a troll.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?340520-Using-Scenarios&p=6208882&viewfull=1#post6208882

Little Joe
04-05-2012, 15:47
I have two units of 60 zombies two unts of 40(HW+S) and 50(Spear) skeletons and two units of 25 ghouls. Some could be used for raising, but for that I intend to add many bases with tomb stones and bitz like quietus1986 has done. They are additional tokens one might need depending on build and I prefer tokens to be just undead. Nothing to be ashamed about, just put one actual model in the tomb stones and everybody knows it is zombies. Units added to should be clear anyhow.
Why should I add even more chaff to the army? It could give me crazy ideas. It is enough for a legal 8k army and I do not need more core, if at all I should stock special choices a I have only very few of those.

EDIT: This is not a rant just a quick answer. The answer to the OP would be about 50 tokens in my case.

Ville
04-05-2012, 16:08
I typically field 120 Zombies (50+50+20 bunker) and I have 30 extra guys. I would need a whole lot more, because I don't even have enough models to cover one IoN by a lvl.4 if it hits all 3 units. I tend to use Ghouls as proxies, as I field them much less than before.

When GW releases new Zombie models that are on par with the ones with Corpse Cart, I will be one happy rotter. I won't need proxies after that...

Disposable Hero
04-05-2012, 18:24
I have about 130 old GW skellies, about 30 GW zombies, 60 Mantic zombies and 20 ghouls.

Lord Inquisitor
04-05-2012, 18:28
I plan to get a couple of bags of these guys at about $10 a bag and glue GW bases to the bottom.

http://www.fairplaygames.com/gamepicture.asp?Picture=BagOZombies.jpg&Title=Zombies!!!%20Bag%20O%27%20Zombies%20%28Non-glowing%29&Company=Twilight%20Creations,%20Inc.

I have around 60 GW zombies so I'll use them for starters but after I run out these guys will do.

Darnok
04-05-2012, 20:26
Well...

I have 20 painted skeletons, and another 15-20 yet to paint. I don't think I'll buy more in the near future. These are a mix of current and old GW plastics, some converted Mantic skeletons (mostly with replaced heads and weapons from GW bitz) and a couple of Kruegers Cursed Company.

I have 25 painted zombies, and am eagerly painting another 15. I do have another 60 models. These are Mantic zombies and ghouls. I don't think I'll invest in any more either in the near future. At some point though it would be nice to have enough of them for huge blocks of 100 and more...

I also have ten painted Direwolves. But that's it.

I wish I had more painted zombies - a lot more - but it takes so much time to paint them all. :cries:

-Loki-
05-05-2012, 01:56
I plan to get a couple of bags of these guys at about $10 a bag and glue GW bases to the bottom.

http://www.fairplaygames.com/gamepicture.asp?Picture=BagOZombies.jpg&Title=Zombies!!!%20Bag%20O%27%20Zombies%20%28Non-glowing%29&Company=Twilight%20Creations,%20Inc.

My FLGS carries those. They're about half the size of GW models. That's going to look incredibly odd.

Dreadlordpaul
05-05-2012, 06:50
My FLGS carries those. They're about half the size of GW models. That's going to look incredibly odd.

They are dwarf zombies

vinush
05-05-2012, 07:42
I have around 20 spare zombies to raise, but have 30 mantic ghouls I'll pop in if I need to. I also have a total of 80 mantic skellies and 30 revenants meaning I have around 70 spare skellies once my two units are deployed.

Tht said, we typically only play 1000 points.

THE \/ince

shelfunit.
05-05-2012, 07:58
I plan to get a couple of bags of these guys at about $10 a bag and glue GW bases to the bottom.

http://www.fairplaygames.com/gamepicture.asp?Picture=BagOZombies.jpg&Title=Zombies!!!%20Bag%20O%27%20Zombies%20%28Non-glowing%29&Company=Twilight%20Creations,%20Inc.

I have around 60 GW zombies so I'll use them for starters but after I run out these guys will do.

Having played Zombies!!! for a long time those models really are pretty small - maybe 20mm tops


My FLGS carries those. They're about half the size of GW models. That's going to look incredibly odd.

Yup - but then you can turn the lights out! This really only works however if you have the glow in the dark Zombies, without them it's just a bit wierd :shifty:

quietus1986
05-05-2012, 15:47
oke I have a unit of 60,45,20,10 ghouls so core to go around ( full army is 12000 points )

Frankly
05-05-2012, 16:22
My FLGS carries those. They're about half the size of GW models. That's going to look incredibly odd.

Actually they don't look bad at, a player uses them in our area.


I use little arm's out of the ground and headstones as raised skeletons and zombie's think I have around 20

Perfect! This is whats we tell players to do if they're on a budget.



@OP. It really comes down to your magic phase and how many dice your creating, Vampires can makes pretty solid magic phases. I can easily summon 40+ models in a phase. The best idea is to proxy models and see how it goes.

Mentat Bashar
05-05-2012, 17:05
This was actually one of the things that made me not collect VC, that apart from the models in your army, you were also supposed to have models painted preferably to tha same standard, but brought there "just in case". Too much work, and too much "GW gets me to buy models I perhaps never will use most of the time" for me at the time.

Lord Inquisitor
05-05-2012, 17:09
My FLGS carries those. They're about half the size of GW models. That's going to look incredibly odd.

Not quite that small but yeah, I'm not buying them for aesthetics. I just want tokens basically. I'm not buying 100-200 extra GW zombies, just in case I succeed in raising them.

Ville
05-05-2012, 17:24
This was actually one of the things that made me not collect VC, that apart from the models in your army, you were also supposed to have models painted preferably to tha same standard, but brought there "just in case". Too much work, and too much "GW gets me to buy models I perhaps never will use most of the time" for me at the time.

It's a pain, I'll admit that. But other armies won't give you the satisfaction of suddenly swelling your units in size and creating new ones from nothing.

Darnok
05-05-2012, 17:27
Plus you can always choose to play with all your models. Two blocks of 100 zombies each are an impressive view, wether on the table or in the cabinet. :)

kaimarion
06-05-2012, 09:26
Can vampires raise 2d6 zombies +wizard level?
I had an opponent use that on 3 units of zombies within 12 inches of his caster, he needed a heck of a lot of spare zombies!

vinush
06-05-2012, 09:32
Yes they can, unfortunately for their opponents.

THE \/ince

madival
06-05-2012, 16:46
As bad as it sounds, none. I have a full horde for 2 zombie squads and a skeleton squad and after that, we house ruled dice will work. I am starting to get more, but the numbers I am gettin to in games mean that it will take time to get everything.

SteelTitan
07-05-2012, 10:40
Yeah, Ive been using dice behind my units as well but Im planning on attending tournaments and I cant see that being allowed.

I guess most people aren't planning on raising dire wolves and fell bats beyond starting size? I have 20 wolves but Im planning on getting more.

Ratbeast
07-05-2012, 11:06
90 ghouls
80 zombies
70 skeletons
10 wolves :(
6 fell bats :( (not paying new finecrap cost for more)

Never enough, can only field 1 unit of zombies at 3k points, as i run out of new ones to raise.............. need about 100 more

Wanting more wolves, small units of 5 around my hybred vamp lord, with summon creatures can turn small harassing fast units into something much better :)