PDA

View Full Version : Eldar rumours



The Dude
19-07-2012, 05:01
Vovin has brought us the following from 3++ is the new black:*

Just found the following in the 3++ is the new black forum (http://projectbiomorph.com/index.php?topic=181.0), posted by Kirby:


Been informed there are some Eldar boxes floating around warehouses. How long they get sat on before a codex is released though, who knows. I'm going to guess around a year off. We know CSM are next and then Dark Angels with the Hobbit crashing into scenes December, that could push DA back to early 2013. So mid 2013 is the likely bet for Eldar is something doesn't shove them out of the way.

*Here's what I've been told re: boxes. No rules.

plastic Warpspiders/Everguard
plastic Skycharriots/Shining Spears
plastic Phantomwaechter *- these might be the shadow spectres?
plastic Jetbikes
plastic Wraithguard/Cataphracts
plastic flyer combi-kit - The flyer is pretty large and has a crossbow shape, two canopies, one fin. The main variant on the cover has some lances and a large dorsal distort cannon. The other variant has extra downward/sideway thrusters, but I don’t remember if it has a different weapon loadout.
plastic phoenix lord niadhau *- For Shining Spears, appears to be on a Vyper jetbike.*
plastic webway gate
resin box Avatar
resin Black Warden - The Black Warden looks like an female Autarch. She has a shurikencatapult and a feathered guardian helm with an eye on it.*
resin Dire Avenger Xentarch - Appears to be a new English name for Exarch?
resin Howling Banshee Xentarch
resin Fire Dragon Xentarch
resin Striking Scorpion Xentarch
resin box Dragon Riders
resin box Eldritch Raiders - They look like guardians but have no helms and wear scarfs around the lower head and swashbuckle belts. They are very individually equipped, have all sorts blades, pistols and/or rifles. (potentially Storm Guardians?)
resin box Halcones Cazadores
resin Warlock

Have at it!

Phantomwächter is German and means Wraithguardian (note, that Wraith guards are called Phantomdroiden in German, aka Wraith droids)
Halcones Cazadores is Spanish for Swooping Hawks

Take it with a mountain of salt as Kirby hasn't posted it on his main page.

Discussion can be found here (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?347144-Eldar-rumour-from-3-is-the-new-black)

The Dude
19-07-2012, 05:20
Kirby has since posted an update on the main page here (http://www.3plusplus.net/2012/07/eldar-rumors-on-horizon.html).


I've been told there are some boxes in warehouses, the pre-packaged kind with the pretty pictures on the front. This doesn't mean Eldar are after Dark Angels, Games Workshop sat on Dark Eldar for years despite the models being done and reportedly, Sisters of Battle are in the same boat currently. Hopefully Eldar won't go this route as well... but this could slate them for release roughly a year from now though it could be much longer. Here's what I'm told these boxes are and as usual, please take with a grain of salt - things can change or be misinterpreted:

plastic Warpspiders/Everguard
plastic Skycharriots/Shining Spears
plastic Phantomwaechter* - these might be the shadow spectres? Some sort of Dreadnought-like construct potentially larger than Wraithlord.

plastic Jetbikes
plastic Wraithguard/Cataphracts
plastic flyer combi-kit - The flyer is pretty large and has a crossbow shape, two canopies, one fin. The main variant on the cover has some lances and a large dorsal distort cannon. The other variant has extra downward/sideway thrusters, but I don’t remember if it has a different weapon loadout. No idea what these could be as I'm not familiar with Imperial Armor - anyone want to chuck ideas out?
plastic phoenix lord niadhau* - For Shining Spears, appears to be on a Vyper jetbike.
plastic webway gate
resin box Avatar
resin Black Warden - The Black Warden looks like an female Autarch. She has a shurikencatapult and a feathered guardian helm with an eye on it.
resin Dire Avenger Xentarch - Appears to be a new English name for Exarch?
resin Howling Banshee Xentarch
resin Fire Dragon Xentarch
resin Striking Scorpion Xentarch
resin box Dragon Riders - official Exodites?
resin box Eldritch Raiders - They look like guardians but have no helms and wear scarfs around the lower head and swashbuckle belts. They are very individually equipped, have all sorts blades, pistols and/or rifles. (potentially Storm Guardians?)
resin box Halcones Cazadores - no idea sorry Potentially Swooping Hawks
resin Warlock

First off, that's a lot of releases. Re-doing some as finecast isn't a huge surprise (the Exarchs, Avatar + Warlock for example) but beyond that there are 12 new sculpts coming out - assuming things like the Jetbikes aren't just a repackaging. That's a huge release and we'd still expect to see a couple more (like a Warp Spider Phoenix Lord, particularly if they are becoming plastic; any more IA stuff? Hornets? Warp Hunters?) so this could be a combination of waves we're seeing here.*

Either way could be pretty exciting and it's good to know Tau & Eldar aren't the guinea pigs for 6th edition. Let CSM take the fall there :P. Remember though, grain of salt until we have sweet little packaging in our hands. Begin discussion and excessive hypothesising as we are want to do as wargamers!

The Dude
25-07-2012, 23:39
Kirby has posted another Eldar Rumours update here: http://www.3plusplus.net/2012/07/update-on-6th-edition-eldar-rumors.html


Okay guys, got some extra details on the earlier Eldar rumors, specifically artwork and what everything looks like. Still no rules. Looks like the Xentarchs are indeed Exarchs, whether they are special Exarch's or just new remodelling is to be seen. We've also got names nailed down a bit more from translations.

With the recent release of the end of this year's schedule looking like Chaos and Dark Angels getting done, we might see Eldar landing early Q1 2013. This would be very much appreciated. Depending who writes it!


Anyway, details below!

Eldar Warpspiders/Everguard
5 per box

Spiders: whole squad looks like the old exarch, no huge weapon, helmets smaller, but same shape, wrist blades, two small spinner weapons on rod mount from the back. Spider web like straps on the chest that hold the backpack (doesn’t look as broad as the old version), running, jumping and slightly cowering poses, exarch has extra pair of weapons on the cover, don’t remember the back pictures

Everguard: aspect warrior body with runes on the chest, same collar as warpspiders but no mandible arcs and gas masks, different more warlock-like face plate and small arc at back of the head, double bladed two-handed spears, very dynamic models, jets from the side/underside of the backpack, squad leader has larger head-arc, mantle hangs over the backpack, flies in the wind

Eldar Sky Charriots/Shining Spears

3 per box, look like small vypers, slightly larger than jetbikes. Two parts: an engine part with jetbike-like canopy but in the shape of a dragon, owl and hawk head, sideway jets, and a distinct winged chariot part, parts are connected by arcs.

Riders either warlocks but arms are not robed, spear, sword and staff; or shining spear aspect warriors with lances, shining spears have smooth canopies with gems instead animal heads, helms look very cylon-like, have collar-like shoulderguards

Eldar Jetbikes

3 per box, the same pose as dark eldar jetbike, guardian riders with smaller helmets or bareheaded with lots of flying hair (80s heavy metal mane) and without backpack, vyper-esque smooth canopy, jet and wings have the same design as a falcon grav tank, underslung twin shuriken catapults and/or serpent-shaped bladehooks, some riders have axes with a hole in the blade

Eldar Dragon Riders

3 per box, very slender lizard mounts not unlike slaanesh steeds, all female rider, no helmets, long braids, guardian armor without backpack, all have shining spear lances, sabres and/or sniper rifles as sidearms, the armor has no decoration, not even gems or small bubbles, only exception is a gem that holds a cloak that falls to the left side of the rider, very simplistic look, not aztec or tribal at all

Eldar Wraithguard/Cataphracts

3 per box, look like old versions but have two rods for upper arms and thighs instead of just one, some have feet, some hooves, large fins at the back

Cataphracts: float/fly, fluttering cloth pieces instead of legs, wing-shaped shields and spears, segmented/armored head

Eldar Swooping Hawks

5 per box, larger wings, not so stiff and two-dimensional, several straps of clothes from the loin, wrists and ankles, model stand on these straps, both shoulder plates have inbuilt missile racks, Exarch has two shoulder-mounted blasters and a scimitar in one hand and two optional rifles, one is the same as the old exarch had, the other is a small star cannon

The Avatar of the Young King

Completely new design, much smaller, only as large as a wraithguard, set of aspect armour where every piece is spread out and connected by a body of magma, looks like an fire/earth elemental clad in a suit of armour, dire avenger helm with fire from the eyes and half burnt helm crest, floats and torso pose looks like vader during his Noooo scream, hands are armored, blood is dripping from the left, the right is molten and transformed into a blade

Eldar Warlock

fits the current warlocks but sharper robe edges, hadouken pose but with staff in two hands

Eldar Spirit Warrior

wraithlord-war walker mix, trygon base, running bird legs with hooves, huge scaled torso, a dozen poles extend from the back (like wraithlord but three times as much), left forearm replaced with massive lance, right hand holds extra handle on lance shaft or a three pronged swastika blade. Lower back, left shoulder and part of the left arm are concealed by an impressive cloak, head is surrounded by scaled armour plating, large gem at the front, doesn’t bend upward towards the end but downward, whole model leans forward, chest can be opened, female pilot inside

Eldar Phoenix Lord Nuadhu, The Fireheart

nuadhua holds lance upright, one end on the ground, points with axe on something, shining spear helm with tail of hair, layered armour like dark eldar-armour but with smooth curves, can be placed on vyper-variant, looks very similar to a vyper, canopy more segmented and wings in falcon-style, one large jet engine, chariot platform on the back, two large pennants

Eldar Webway Gate

Two arcs that almost touch each other at the top, whole construct has hazelnut shape, pyramidal platform with oval basis, several destroyed columns, front columns are intact and carry swooping hawk and dark reaper statues, whole model is covered with thorn-twines (seems to be optional)

Eldar Dire Avenger Xentarch

holds two handed samurai sword downwards, two wrist-mounted shuriken catapults, banner, 99% that the phoenix on it is modeled on, one foot stands on a rock with an owl next to it, all armour plates are bedecked with a rune pattern, don’t know if this is only painted on

Eldar Howling Banshee Xentarch

golfer pose, bends forwards and slashs upwards with a sabre, stretches other arm straight into the air, holds tri-swatiska, has snakes woven into her hair

Eldar Striking Scorpion Xentarch

jumps forwards, holds two short but thick chainswords in front, back of armour has backbone-like element that looks like a scorpion tail, continued on the helmet and ends in a sting, stands on ornamented plate with roots on it

Eldar Fire Dragon Xentarch

knees almost, holds very long pike with two hands ready to fire, huge cluster of grenades on his back and his belt, helm ends in a dragon head

Eldar Lamia Strike Fighter / Moon Siren Bomber & Eldar Black Warden

already described

The Dude
07-11-2012, 01:05
Darnok had posted the following from an informant:


Hi,
the translation of the next eldar codex has started (or so it seems)...

All plastic minis stay the same for the moment including jetbikes
Wraithguards will be plastic with a HtH option (swords)
A new Farseer model (finecast iirc)
a character for Dire Avengers, a new entry "something-seer"

That's all I got for the moment!

Discussion here: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?356991-Eldar-Birdy

The Dude
21-04-2013, 08:21
A pic of a new plastic Farseer clampack has appeared on Faeit 212 (http://natfka.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/breaking-news-eldar-model-pic-plastic.html)

169240

Discussion here (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?370324-plastic-farseer-sprue!!!)

The Dude
04-05-2013, 13:14
Best_Pone offered the following rough outline of the rumoured Eldar flyer.

PLEASE NOTE - Keep your mind out of the gutter. The jokes have all been done already.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=169569

The Dude
11-05-2013, 09:30
Best_Pone has added the following:


I'm not sure how to break this to you really. The Wraithknight... looks down on your puny flyers? :angel:

Talking of flyers, they do put me in mind of the anime Battle Fairy Yukikaze. I won't try drawing either of them this time though, as that didn't turn out so well last time :shifty:


The main hull and wings are common across both builds. It's amazing how different tail and fin positioning can alter the look of the aircraft though ;)

Common features:
- Downward angling of the primary wings (about 30º I'd estimate)
- Canards are very slightly angled down, but near horizontal
- Engines are mounted in pods in the wings
- One weapon mounted centreline under the hull, and one in a pod in each wing

Hemlock:
- Has a single vertical stabiliser mounted on the centreline of the aircraft

Nightshade:
- Twin "vertical" stabilisers (they're actually about 30º from horizontal), one mounted on each engine pod.


Yup, it's officially Wraithknight ;)
Also, that picture actually looks closer to the Eldar flyers than my own sketch. Amend to fit in the features above and it will be close.


You are getting new wraithguard - it's a double pack that also do a close combat version. Both types will also have weapon options.
The Finecast that I've seen are a spiritseer and a ranger, and your new battleforce replaces the warwalker with a viper.

The Dude
20-05-2013, 00:36
Pictures from the new White Dwarf have leaked online. These pictures will not be posted or linked to on Warseer.

The pics show the new Wraithknight (yes that is the confirmed name ;)) as well as the covers for Codex: Eldar and Iyanden: A Codex Eldar Supplement. There is also a very small image of the White Dwarf cover that features a pic of one of the new flyers.

The page lists both of the Eldar books as the digital versions, so it is unclear if the Iyanden Supplement will be digital only or not. The Supplement is described as including background & Heraldry for Iyanden, missions, additional rules, and miniatures galleries (as well as apparently "much more" whatever that means).

The Codex: Eldar cover dipicts a Farseer with "Antler style" helmet and singing spear unleashing a Destructor-style warp power.

The Iyanden Supplement cover shows a Seer with a staff in one hand and his other fist in the air.

As expected the Wraithknight appears to be an upscaled version of a Wraithlord, but with a broader chest, thicker legs and more vanes on the back. It is armed with what appears to be a Lance weapon of some kind on it's right arm and a shield projector similar to the Dire Avengers Shimmershield on it's left and two shoulder-mounted Scatter Lasers. There is also an alternate Sword option for the right land. It does NOT appear to have jump jets.

The Flyer appears from the very small image to match the outline provided by Best_Pone. Not much detail can be made out.

Both the Wraithknight and the flyer are painted Saim Hann colours, indicating this will likely be the studio army scheme. That said, with an Iyanden supplement, they could also have one of them too.

Discussion here (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?372781-Eldar-rumours-*DO-NOT-POST-OR-LINK-TO-PICS-OF-WHITE-DWARF*)

The Dude
21-05-2013, 02:07
Releases are rumoured to be as follows:

Codex: Eldar (104 pages) – Written by Phil Kelly
Wh40k Psychic Powers: Eldar (14 cards) - 2 Masteries with 7 Powers each
Eldar Farseer (plastic) – see above
Eldar Spiritseer (Finecast, splash release) – Armed with Witchstaff and Spirit Stone
Illic Nightspear (Finecast) – Pathfinder character armed with sniper rifle “Voidbringer”
Eldar Wraithguard / Wraithblades (plastic) makes 5 models.
Eldar Hemlock Wraithfighter / Crimson Hunter (plastic) - Hemlock Wraithfighter is a Psychicly armed bomber. Crimson Hunter is a new type of Aspect Warrior
Eldar Wraithknight (Plastic) – Described as 9” tall
Eldar Dire Avengers (repack) – changed to 5 + Exarch bits
Eldar Battle Force (repack) - 10 Eldar Guardians and Heavy Weapon Platform, 5 Dire Avengers, a Wave Serpent and a Vyper
Eldar Windrider Jetbike Squadron (plastic) – Looking like just a repack of the existing bikes like with Tau Crisis Suits

Some rules rumours doing the rounds now include:


-You can make Run moves in addition to shooting Shuriken weapons.

-Shuriken weapons have a rule which makes them ignore armor on a to-wound roll of a 6-- similar to rending, but it's not actually the Rending rule.

-The Wraithknight starts at about 250 points and caps around 350, and towers over even the Tau Riptide. It's 9'' tall. The Wraithknight has the ability for its weapons to become twin-linked if it hits with a scatter laser it comes equipped with, even against airborne targets. It can shoot S9 and 10 small blasts, and has a total of four weapons on it-- you have a choice of several, including a huge wraithblade and a lance weapon.

- Wraithguard are cheaper both points-wise and financially speaking, and are now S5 and T6, and have the option to be equipped with Wraithblades as per the current Codex's in place of their guns, making them a dangerous close combat unit.

- Including a Spiritseer as a HQ choice allows you to bring Wraithguard as Troops.

- Expect Guardians to supplant Dire Avengers as the staple Troops choice-- they're very points efficient and with the buff to shuriken weapons, they should expect to be in a lot of competitive armies.

-The Fire Prism has been nerfed a bit-- basically, they want to drive people back towards Aspect Warrior and Wraith-heavy armies, rather than the mechanized Eldar army literally everyone and their brother played with the exact same list. Can't really say to what extent, but the purchasing advice was to "Not load up on them."

-The Avatar is "Definitely better."

-The Iyanden supplement is not a splash release, and will be normally available. Iyanden is strictly a fluff book, and contains no game rules. The rules to play a themed Iyanden army are found completely in Codex: Eldar. This is a move to appease people who want more fluff in books as well as people who would rather just have more game content with the fluff optional. This is an experiment in seeing how this works-- if it does well, expect Games Workshop to continue with the release of "chapter-specific" fluff supplements for their Codex releases.

The Dude
21-05-2013, 23:39
A significant number of other pictures have surfaced showing:

Wraithknight with alternate weapons build. In this case, 2 of the large lance weapons (one on each arm) indicating the Scattershield is optional

Wraithguard with alternate weapons. Wraithcannon is visually the same. New option is called a D-scythe described as being able to cut through large groups of enemies.

Wraithblades with alternate options. Shown with axe and shield or twin swords.

Hemlock Wraithfighter described as having a Spiritseer pilot and armed with a Mindshock Pod and twin Heavy D-scythes. It has one central tail fin and two low ridged fins over the engine pods

Crimson Hunter has two large fins over the engines and a large rune at the rear where the Wraithfighter's central fin connects. It is shown with several weapon options on the wings including Starcannons, Lances and the Heavy D-scythes. It also has a central underslung weapon that appears to be some kind of lance.

Spiritseer armed with staff and Spirit Stone in a standard "point the staff" pose, but holding the stone with the middkle two fingers of his left hand so it looks like he's throwing up the horns.

Farseer assembled and painted appears as many would have assumed looking at the frames in the packet as shown above.

Illic Nightspear looks like a fairly standard Pathfinder with hood down and a large topknot. He is crouched perched on top of a piece of ruined Wraithbone.