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Von Wibble
11-08-2012, 12:32
I am looking for what models I should use for the various members of retinues. I have decided to use Empire models as they fit the kind of look I want.

So far I have

Acolytes with boltguns - Handgunners. 40K Inquisitor models have crossbows that service as S4 weapons so I'm OK for handguns to count as boltguns.
Psykers - Flagellants (with weapons removed)
Crusaders - Empire Swordsmen - I have used Demigryph Knight shields which are larger for Storm shields and Nemesis Falchions from the Grey Knight sprue.
Jokearo - The "Powder Monkey" from the Handgunner sprue
Seers - Spare models from the Hurricanum kit.

The other models I am interested in trying to get hold of are Acolytes with plasma guns and Death Cult Assassins. The latter need a mix of axes and swords to give me a bit of choice.

Any ideas on what models I can use? Preferably Empire models though anything looking a little more low-tech will do.

Thanks in advance for any replies.

LonelyPath
11-08-2012, 13:17
So long as yo uare not using them in a GW store there are plenty of miniature ranges out there. I use models from Ramshackle, they are nice and easily affordable. I also use models by Reaper and other ranges as well.

JaqTaar
11-08-2012, 14:32
If you use Wizards for Psykers, the Flagellants could instead be used as DCAs. For the Acolytes with plasmaguns, perhaps Master Engineers?

Von Wibble
11-08-2012, 17:28
So long as yo uare not using them in a GW store there are plenty of miniature ranges out there. I use models from Ramshackle, they are nice and easily affordable. I also use models by Reaper and other ranges as well.

Some of my games are in a GW store so unfortunately that idea is out.

I'm thinking of combining parts from my Empire models with Corsairs. The only thing I need is axes really...

LonelyPath
11-08-2012, 17:58
Some of my games are in a GW store so unfortunately that idea is out.

I'm thinking of combining parts from my Empire models with Corsairs. The only thing I need is axes really...

Oh well, was worth a suggestion though :)

Flagellants lseem to work well though, I have seen a bunch of armies using them if you like am ore ragtag feel to your henchmen.

Haravikk
11-08-2012, 18:12
The free company set has some great bodies that might be a useful base for a lot of these, moreso than state troops etc. I think, though you'll want to swap heads and weapons to get a more 40k look to them.
This leaves flagellants free for death cult assassins or arco-flagellants. Personally I'd favour the latter for those models, as the death cult assassins should be more graceful I think, so corsairs may be a good call.

Chem-Dog
11-08-2012, 18:21
The other models I am interested in trying to get hold of are Acolytes with plasma guns and Death Cult Assassins. The latter need a mix of axes and swords to give me a bit of choice.

Any ideas on what models I can use? Preferably Empire models though anything looking a little more low-tech will do.

If you're using hand-gunners for Acolytes, why not use the Repeater handgun for the Plasma-gunners? It's going to tie in nicely with the units you're already using and will be easy enough to source parts, depending on the frequency of them in your army you can probably beg a few off of local Empire players and, failing that the Pistoleers/Outriders box features a fair few.

For the Death Cultists, I don't think anything from the Empire range really lends itself particularly well to the concept, the only thing that springs to mind in the WHFB range is Crypt Ghouls, hand-swaps are easy enough if you don't appreciate filth encrusted claws.

Von Wibble
11-08-2012, 22:41
Chem-Dog - that's a good idea. I am an Empire player so no need to even beg or borrow as I have plenty of spare bits!

Haravikk - I agree the DCA should be more graceful. I think I will go with corsairs. As I also play dark elves I have a few spare of these too.

brionl
11-08-2012, 23:17
Take a look at the Necromunda & Mordheim model lines too.
At one point I was working on an all female retinue for a female Inquistor. I used some Necromunda House Escher, and Mordheim, uhh, whatever the female faction is.

Kakapo42
12-08-2012, 01:35
While we're on the subject of Inquisitorial retinues, didn't there used to be an Inquisitor + retinue set available? I recall seeing it on the GW website some time ago, but it does not seem to exist anymore...

Also, have you considered the Empire Duelists (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat500016a&prodId=prod1670038a)? They look as though they might make for an interesting addition for a retinue.

Chem-Dog
12-08-2012, 03:59
While we're on the subject of Inquisitorial retinues, didn't there used to be an Inquisitor + retinue set available? I recall seeing it on the GW website some time ago, but it does not seem to exist anymore...

Coteaz used to come in one and there was a generic Witch-Hunter version too. Both boxes had a few dud in the mix as far as models go (though the WH version was a lot nicer generally). Either way they wouldn't represent all that much help in the newer Inquisition manifestation as henchmen were quite different beasts then than they are now.

MajorWesJanson
12-08-2012, 05:16
If you want the more feral look but not limited to Empire, Wood Elf (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440116a&prodId=prod800881) Wardancers (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440116a&prodId=prod1470006) make great DCA. As do Mordheim Amazons (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat490048a&prodId=prod1120013). if you want models with a variety of power weapons, Mordheim Pit fighters (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat490055a&prodId=prod1120015) have axes, flails, spears, and swords. As for another psyker, try the Mordheim Elf Mage (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat490053a&prodId=prod1120075) who is rather plain looking, and lacks a weapon besides a staff.

More crusader ideas: Bretonnian (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440038a&prodId=prod780936)Battle (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440038a&prodId=prod780937) Pilgrims (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440038a&prodId=prod780938)

Personally, I use some Dwarf Engineers in place of Jokaero, as Squats.

As for plasma cannons, no idea for models, but to get handy plasma cannons that are about the right size, check bitz sites for the ones off of the storm raven. Left and right versions, and relatively cheap.

Aluinn
12-08-2012, 22:49
To make my Frateris Templars (using GK Inquisition unit rules), I used the Perry Miniatures (http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index.php) Wars of the Roses and late-Medieval Mercenaries plastic kits (which have interchangeable parts), combined with the rifle arms from the ACW Zouaves, which also fit them perfectly. These rifles don't look like bolters, of course, though they're representing bolter Acolytes (or my counts-as equivalent) but it's easy to imagine that they use special ammo which make them as powerful, much as Kroot use guns which are primitive in design but have bolter-like stats due to advanced ammo given to them by the Tau. The old Inquisitorial Stormtrooper hellguns were pretty close to bolters in stats anyway, and, well, the bolter is the only rifle available to acolytes that isn't horrifically overcosted and kind of all-around bad (the hotshot lasgun)--and I'd argue that any sort of rifle you model is likely to represent bolter stats better than hotshot lasgun stats, because hotshot lasguns are a hyper-specific thing in that they're attached by a huge power backpack, have (in-game) very abnormal AP for a rifle, and whatnot.

I used the pikemen to represent DCA with power lances and swords and the halberdiers to represent Crusaders with power halberds (axes), as well. The helmets in these kits, especially the command sprue helmets, are perfect in that they look a lot like the SoB helmet design, have a fairly 40K feel about them, and are just very cool :). You also get a good mix of armor types: There is plate, brigandine/jack (leather with metal plates sewn or riveted in), chainmail, and padded (flak in 40K, probably, though it could rep. carapace because it's pretty thick and heavy). The command models have full plate, special weapons (poleaxes, a morningstar, etc.) and make good characters, and there are standard-bearing arms, though you'll have to either make a banner or use a molded one from a GW kit.

They are very slightly out-of-scale with some GW models--or, more accurately, they're 28mm but with realistic proportions--but fit in just fine if you consider that Cadians are really a bit too chunky and large. They actually do a good job of showing a human form in comparison to a Marine. My Terminators look truly enormous next to them, but not vastly taller, which is perfect IMO.

EDIT: If you're inclined to wait and really want them, the Perrys are working on some WWII kits which would give you bolt-action rifle arms rather than flintlock rifle arms, but personally I think flintlocks look better for Inquisition stuff anyway, cf the Inquisitor models' inferno pistols and the like.

As a bonus you get tons of models with these kits for a low price (~$30 US each); each contains 40-42. You probably won't use the Zouave bodies but you actually get more than 80 (!) gun arms, so, well, all you'll ever need. You could also use them as allied IG if you like their look; their officer model would make a good Commissar and could be converted into a Primaris Psyker or, well, a lot of other things too.