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Charterhouse
28-08-2012, 23:16
So a few things - first, is anyone from here going to this event?

I am going with 5 friends and we will be delivering an Orc horde, courtesy of my personal collection, divided into 4 armies (one of the guys is going to roll with Skaven or Ogres).

So far they look like being 4 blocks of 2200-2400 (2400 is the max you can field, and there is a custom magic item list at http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2470090a_WHW_Legendary_Pack_Karak_Eight_Peaks_Mag ic_Items_Oct_2012_-_v4.pdf - you can't take custom racial upgrades or other magic items)

1 list of Savage Orcs, anchored on a 40 strong horde of SOBU with AHW, 2 units of 10 Boar Boys, 2 units of 12 SO Archers plus Forest Goblins and an Arachnarok (this may be the hardest list to balance)
2 lists of regular Orcs, each with 2 big blocks of Orcs and a horde of Black Orcs, some Goblin Wolf Boys to screen and some artillery (probably a rock lobber in each list) - I might run a Wyvern in 1 list
1 list of Night Goblins, this one is pure fun really, a block of 70 NG spearmen, 2 smaller blocks of archers, a horde of 30 Squig Riders (or 2 blocks of 15?) and a squig herd horde of 40 (12 Goblins, 28 squigs). Rare is a Doom Diver and 4 Stone Trolls with a Big Boss (it's cheesy but should I run a black orc with them to make them work?).

I guess the things I'm thinking are, what does each list need to make sure it is vaguely competitive, is there anything that will really make them vulnerable? And what would you cram into each list given my racial constraints (which I know are stupid but .....). What Orc hero/Warboss builds look good considering the available magic item list?

O&G core is generally pretty strong so don't really mind the lists, but I guess if I had free choice I'd have a doom diver in each list - anyone selling? haha.

Charterhouse
31-08-2012, 18:38
Might be easier if I post specific lists for a bit more commentary... Here's the NG list, I'll also put up the Savage Orc one. This probably ought to be in the lists subforum so apologies and if a Mod can move it then thanks!

Night Goblin Army (Orcs and Goblins)
Lords - 104
Night Goblin Warboss (104)
Great Cave Squig; Spear; Light Armour; Shield.

Heroes - 301
Night Goblin Shaman (85)
Level 2 Wizard.

Night Goblin Shaman (85)
Level 2 Wizard.

Night Goblin Big Boss (36)
Great Weapon; Light Armour.

Night Goblin Big Boss (36)
Great Weapon; Light Armour.

Night Goblin Big Boss (59)
Great Weapon; Battle Standard Bearer.

Core - 755
70 Night Goblins (335)
Night Goblin Boss; Musician; Standard Bearer; Spears; Netters; 2 Fanatics.

20 Night Goblins (105)
Musician; Standard Bearer; Short bows; Fanatics.

20 Night Goblins (105)
Musician; Standard Bearer; Short bows; Fanatics.

5 Goblin Wolf Riders (65)
Musician; Short Bow.

5 Goblin Wolf Riders (65)
Musician; Short Bow.

20 Night Goblins (80)
Musician; Standard Bearer; Spears.

Special - 655
30 Night Goblin Squig Hoppers (360)

15 Night Goblin Squig Herd (245)
• 25 Cave Squig

NG Squig Chariot (Goblin Wolf Chariot) (50)
• 3 Goblin Crew
• 2 Giant Wolf

Rare - 415
Mangler Squigs (65)

Doom Diver Catapult (80)

6 Stone Trolls (270)

2,230 points

Charterhouse
31-08-2012, 18:42
Savage Orc list here - the "Forest Goblin" nasty skulkers will actually be forest goblin headhunters.

Savage Orc Army (Orcs and Goblins)
Lords - 350
Savage Orc Great Shaman (194)
War Boar.

Savage Orc Warboss (156)
Great Weapon.

Heroes - 305
Savage Orc Big Boss (120)
War Boar; AHW; Shield; Battle Standard Bearer.

Savage Orc Big Boss (104)
AHW; Shield; Battle Standard Bearer.

Goblin Big Boss (81)
Gigantic Spider; Spear; Light Armour; Shield.

Core - 1,083
28 Savage Orcs (307)
Savage Orc Boss; Musician; Standard Bearer; Additional Hand Weapon; Big Stabbas.

12 Savage Orcs (118)
Musician; Bows.

12 Savage Orcs (118)
Musician; Bows.

19 Savage Orcs (206)
Savage Orc Boss; Musician; Standard Bearer; Additional Hand Weapon.

8 Forest Goblin Spider Riders (124)
Musician; Standard Bearer.

5 Forest Goblin Spider Riders (75)
Musician.

Forest Goblins (30 Goblins) (135)
Musician; Short Bow; 2 Nasty Skulkers.

Special - 218
9 Savage Orc Boar Boyz (218)
Musician; Standard Bearer; Shields; Spears.

Rare - 375
Arachnarok Spider (290)

Goblin Rock Lobber (85)

2,331 points

DeathlessDraich
01-09-2012, 19:10
A few suggestions:

Sav Orc list
1) 1 block of 50 SOBU with 2 HW plus 1 or 2 minimal units of Wolf Riders as Sacrificials
2) 1 lvl 4 and 1 lvl 2 Shaman plus Warboss general
3) Another block of Sav orcs 40 -50
4) Remaining pts on Trolls

NG list

100 NG as your holding unit plus a 2nd slightly smaller NG block

Drop Arachnarok, Boar Boyz.

Good luck :)

Charterhouse
04-09-2012, 20:43
Thanks very much - I think I can work to that actually. Are Savage Orcs with bows a waste of time?

I do love my boar boyz and I have 2 arachnaroks nearly done, I want to use at least one!

I'm not obsessed with playing a tourny list or anything just want to have a good time really so being in character is as important as anything!