View Full Version : How to paint a waaagh...the painstakingly slow way

01-10-2012, 20:27
Hey folks and folkettes,

since I just finished Uni (finally- thank god!!!), I am now able to return to this lovely hobby of ours. ...well, and the crapload of minis sitting around my new appartment.
So, I've mostly played Orks during 5th, but due to time constraints never got to paint much of the little buggers. But as we all know, grey plastic is not as shiny on a board as some painted minis. So let's get to some painted mini pictures...Goff clan, for ease of painting.

http://s14.directupload.net/images/121001/y2mffflx.png (http://www.directupload.net)

since the pic is somewhat blurry, here's another version:
http://s14.directupload.net/images/121001/dazrgd9r.png (http://www.directupload.net)

These are part of the first boyz squad I'm painting up. Here's the nob singled out:
http://s14.directupload.net/images/121001/59phpcir.png (http://www.directupload.net)
http://s1.directupload.net/images/121001/iybfgunu.png (http://www.directupload.net)

More to come soon, because there's other squads that are done or nearly done, but haven't taken pics yet. :)

Hope you like 'em. Feel free to post comments and /or critique, always nice to get some input.


02-10-2012, 00:43
Nice paintjob. A bit to clean for an Ork to me but the skin looks amazing.

Keep up the good work.



02-10-2012, 00:45
sweet baby jesus!!! :eek:

are these the orks you painted in the last couple days and which we talked about?! damn, they look ace! almost too good when i consider how many boyz you've got to paint to finish your army... god damn! how long does it take do paint a boy like that? dat skin is just too good for some "rank&file" troops... my poor little tyranids will look like crap next to those orks :/ well done, well done...

some critique:
the weapons are a bit too bright for my taste. they could do with a black/brown wash to dull em down, no?

02-10-2012, 08:05
@james: too clean? hm...i get what you mean, but don't worry, hopefully vehicles and other bigger stuff will represent the more dirty side of the orks. with the boyz i just wanted to go in a more cartoony direction, so that most of the details remain visible.

@lowkey: you should know these fellas, it was them who gave your chaos lord and berserkers a good thrashing. :D so no, these are the older ones, the current ones are still wip. these took about 4 hours per boy - at least that's what i can guesstimate, as i do them in batches. the skin isn't that hard to do, really. i've painted so many skintones npwadays that i don't even start to break a sweat with these. :D unlike when i was starting out and cursed every inch of naked skin on a model. :D and yeah, your nids...haven't seen them in ages, maybe give em all a quick new drybrush and wash, to bring out more of the details?

the weapons though are actually washed and whatnot, but i agree, they do look clean. will have another go at them, to dirty them up. thanks for the comments and critique.


02-10-2012, 09:21
Here's another part of the squad:

http://imageshack.us/a/img507/618/bildschirmfoto20121001u.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/507/bildschirmfoto20121001u.png/)

and the WiP guys - skin has turned out a little bit brighter, but it needs another wash anyway, so it should turn out fine.

http://imageshack.us/a/img831/618/bildschirmfoto20121001u.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/bildschirmfoto20121001u.png/)

02-10-2012, 09:37
oh snap, it's my nemesis! yeah, then i know these fuc...fellas! one day the forces of chaos eventually will get their revenge and even my nids will tear them to shreds *waac mode activated*
apropos nids, the little ones won't get some touch ups in the near future, but that's planned for the genestealers and warriors. maybe i'll do that after my bonesword/lashwhip conversions are finished. still working on that :)

@ork weapons
just slap some badab black or devlan mud on. that'll do the trick for now. they are too shiny/polished for my taste

ah some new pics. yeah those weapons are way more of my liking. that's the way to go!
the skin contrasts very nice with the dark clothes/leather. i like it alot!

02-10-2012, 17:48
Quite well done! I'll note one sad problem however (despite your very good painting) and that's that you're painting the bottom eyelid as part of the eye. Orks are all squinty and look much more evil/menacing when you get the eyelid correct.

That said, very welldone thus far!

02-10-2012, 20:55
even though me not beeing an ork pro, but i have never noticed ork boyz havin eyelids. looked em up on the GW page and even there i can't see any lids beeing sculpted/painted. the nobs seem to have eylelids at least, but personally i don't find them looking more evil, instead they look like they should have a visit at their next optician painboy :D

02-10-2012, 21:38
@lowkey: first of all - whatever you throw at me, those choppaz will take it down. you know it to be true. :D second - will have another go at those weapons, although the pics, all taken with the standard daylight bulbs, let them shine like ...well..shiny things. :D

about the whole eyelid thingy. just to be sure, i had to check CMON 8 and above ratings to make sure the minis actually had eyelids. to be honest, once the minis are primed black and you get to painting the damned things, i never even caught a glimpse of any lids. the thing is, the eyes of orks are so far back in their sockets combined with dominant brows or helm rims that it's hard to even see the eye proper not to mention dab the tip of your brush at it. and since i have at least 60 boyz lying around in need of a paintjob i need to draw the line at some details. that's why i will highlight skin to a high degree but other parts less, so i can give the impression of painting them to a higher standard than they are. it's how duncan rhodes actually told me to approach army painting, and less with my "everything has to be GD level" mentality that i used before. :)

@maniac: thanks for the comment and the hint about lids, though. i will keep an eye out for these once i get to the HQ units, those will be painted to a higher standard - with the lid painted properly. :)

and a final thing - painting blogs need pictures, that's what we all look for, right? so here's some pics, of green things...though not as orky as you might expect:

http://imageshack.us/a/img442/618/bildschirmfoto20121001u.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/bildschirmfoto20121001u.png/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img819/1847/bildschirmfoto20121001ux.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/bildschirmfoto20121001ux.png/)

it's the necron stormlord - did it for a painting competition in the german GW HQ. little sucker won me 1st place and a monolith as a prize. it also was my first finecast mini and a less than lovely experience. and painting and highlighting the cape was PAINFUL.
also, i know the blendings aren't perfect, same goes for the OSL, it was more of a quick and dirty kinda painting session, took me two evenings to get it done. the project was more about fun anyways and trying out more OSL stuff. never expected it to win me anything. lucky me, i guess. :)


06-10-2012, 10:11
Got to take some more pictures of finished minis. Here's some gretchins, which are actually really fun to paint.

http://imageshack.us/a/img231/618/bildschirmfoto20121001u.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/231/bildschirmfoto20121001u.png/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img195/6218/bildschirmfoto20121001uq.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/195/bildschirmfoto20121001uq.png/)

Loved doint the little guys. The Herder is still very wip, though. Speaking of wip, there's another project, that is going on right now - my kitbashed Big Mek.

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/618/bildschirmfoto20121001u.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/bildschirmfoto20121001u.png/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img22/6218/bildschirmfoto20121001uq.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/22/bildschirmfoto20121001uq.png/)

Hope you like the stuff. :)

07-10-2012, 20:12
the gretchins look so cool, almost cute! i'm surprised they have that many details and character for so small miniatures. your great paintshop really helps defining this. well done!

do you have a side-shot (is that a proper english term?!) from the big mek? i'd like to see that arm-thingy on his back. because of me not being very familiar with the ork mini range... which mini is the big mek based on? can't find it on the GW page?
what's up with the broken antennas on his backpack?
in any case he looks badass whit that huge burner :D maybe you could add a shotgun (preferably sawed off) or something like that to his back. i don't know why, but i magine him with a nice brutal back up weapon

10-10-2012, 12:02
Any chance of having your skin recipe?

11-10-2012, 19:00
Any chance of having your skin recipe?

I'd like to know too!

11-10-2012, 19:46
oh...haven't looked in here in a few days, been busy with work. :) hm, the recipe...most of the time i just pick the bottles by instinct and actually don't try to hard to keep them memorized, but i've done quite a few orcs now, so i should figure them out, as soon as i sit down with my huge chest o'colours again. :) what i mean to say is, i will take a look an then give you the approximate recipe. but be warned, i use a mix of manufacturers, mostly P3 and GW, the latter being the old range not the new one.
so, uhm, expect a ccolour recipe by tomorrow. :)

11-10-2012, 23:19
thanks from me too, I was wondering where the 'How to' part of this plog was

11-10-2012, 23:35
Gotta love those grots!!

12-10-2012, 09:39
haha, didn't know i needed a how to part, unless it was brought up by other posters.

so, here i am, staring/glaring at my chest of colors and am trying to figure out which colors i used for the ork skin. 'ere we go:

0.Dilute all your colors with water - aim for a 2/3 color - 1/3 water mix. If the color is runny, it's too much water, if it goes on a bit chalky and sticks too much to the brush, it's not enough water.

1. Undercoat the mini in black - i think this goes without explanation.

2. Basecoat the mini with a mix of Catachan Green, Umbral Umber(P3), Wurm Green (P3) and a dot of Hammerfall Khaki(P3). The mix is roughly 50/10/25/5.

3. Wash the mini consecutively with Umbral Umber(P3), Devlan Mud, Badab Black. Thin the Umbral Umber with water, about 3/4 water 1/4 color. The GW washes merely mix with a drop of water to make them a bit more workable and less intense. Always let the first wash dry, before you apply the next and never let the fluid pool to much on an area, always keep it in flow. Also keep in mind with washes to work from top to bottom - drag the color towards the lower areas of the mini. When you go for the last wash with Badab Black, only apply it to the lower parts of the muscles and try to focus on the recesses - it's just to add that extra bit of definition.

4. Highlight step 1 - go for the basecoat mix with a bit more Wurm Green mixed into it. Also, the Highlight mix needs to be slightly thinner than the Basecoat, so add a little bit more water. For the highlighting do the opposite of the washing - before, you dragged the color downwards, for the highlights push the color to the top of the area. Try to reclaim a lot of the bulging muscles and most of the face, without messing up the darker lines. Try to stick to all the raised areas - orks are ideal for this.

5. highlight step 2 - add more Wurm Green to the former mix and a drop or two of Sunburst Yellow (still have one of the old GW hexagonal bottles from the 90s). Use this color for only the higher parts of all the bulges and try to push the color towards the next adjacent darker lines you've left from the shading process. By having your brightest color contrast with your darkest you get, uh...well, contrast. It helps to make the details of a mini pop out a lot more.

For the standard ork boy you can stop here with the highlighting. Everything more is overkill. For Characters, Nobz and the like, I'll add 5.5.

5.5. Add more even more yellow and a drop of something like bleached bone or any similar off white, slightly yellow-tinted white tone to the mix. Go easy on the drop, too much and your color will go all chalky. Use this mix mostly on the little ridges and most extreme edges on the face (cheeks, the upper and lower lip segments, eyebrows etc), as well as the knuckles of the hands and very thin lines on the arm muscles, again adjacent to the darkest segments of the next muscle. Only do this on the upper body of the mini and with a focus on the shoulder section and stuff. This last highlight serves to give the mini more focus on the face and your highlighting, thus don't overdo it on the other muscle and skin parts.

6. Since some of the colors might contrast a bit too much, I'll go for a final two glazes to pull all the colors together and give the color a bit of its darker shade back and add a bit more "life" to the skin. First use the Umbral Umber, in the same consistency as in Step 2, and cover the skin with this mix. Now we try to cover all of the skin, starting with the brightest spot and only slightly drag it down from there to the darker parts. A glaze is not intended to give definition, like the wash, but to tint the area covered by it. Still, don't let the glaze pool anywhere, especially not on the bright highlighted areas. After the brown glaze has dried, I use Sanguine Base(P3) in a similar consistency and repeat the entire process one last time.

6.5. Again, for the characters and Nobz, take a dark red glaze (Skorne Red from P3 f'rex) and use it on the palms of their hands and on the lower lips. Even slightly on the knuckles to go for an even more lifelike appearance.

And that's it for ork skin. I hope this helps. I know that many might use different colors, especially less P3, but there's corresponding colors in the GW and Vallejo range. the Umbral Umber can be switched for Scorched Brown, for example. Or whatever GW calls their new dark reddish brown nowadays. :)

Maybe I'll get around to doing a step by step with images some time soon, but I can't promise anything.


12-10-2012, 10:00
It's also time for a little update - here's the boyz with their skin finished and the black leather done, as well. Only the browns and the metals and of course the bases need to be finished.

http://imageshack.us/a/img805/9398/bildschirmfoto20121012u.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/bildschirmfoto20121012u.png/)

Keep in mind though, that the skin looks waaaay brighter in these pics than it actually is. The overall skintone is quite a bit darker. Once the whole squad is done, I'll take some proper pics with a better light setup, which should help display the colors in their actual hue.

There's also these two fine green gents:
http://imageshack.us/a/img337/3015/bildschirmfoto20121012ur.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/337/bildschirmfoto20121012ur.png/)

Both are next in line to have a little variation from all the boys.

12-10-2012, 10:06

You make the AOBR minis look good :D

12-10-2012, 22:14
Very nice painting.

16-10-2012, 07:06

You make the AOBR minis look good :D

oh c'mon, it's not that hard. :) the AOBR models have great details and are a good looking bunch overall. the only nitpick i have is that the slugga boyz all are a bit samey, as well as the terminatores being a bit underwhelming. but since you also get the neat nobz and the warboss and the captain, i've always had a warm and fuzzy place for that starter box in my heart.

16-10-2012, 13:45
What about some arm repositioning or something similiar to "de-unify" the AoBr boyz?

16-10-2012, 14:03
No way. The last thing i'm gonna do now is convert the arms on these. I got 25 more of the AOBR boys waiting for my brushes. Not to mention all the specialists, the shoota boys or the vehicles. The slugga boys will stay monopose. The army is taking long enough as it is, no need to increase the time spent on them. :)

17-10-2012, 12:46
Well if your spending all your time here talking about them and not painting sure it will take a long time :D

*cracks whip* we want an update :p

17-10-2012, 23:28
haha, didn't know i needed a how to part, unless it was brought up by other posters.

haha, you put it in your thread title!

19-10-2012, 08:32
Well if your spending all your time here talking about them and not painting sure it will take a long time :D

*cracks whip* we want an update :p

alright, alright, i'll get to it...see below. :)

haha, you put it in your thread title!

uhm...*glances at topic title* *blushes* uhm...yeah...well...you'r right. :D:cool:

so. pictures, right? finished the 4 boys. pic is again a bit shoddy, will go for a squad shot on saturday.

http://imageshack.us/a/img411/699/bildschirmfoto20121019u.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/411/bildschirmfoto20121019u.png/)

i also realised that i'm mind numbingly bad at photography...the light sources always cancel out my painted highlights when taking pics. even with my more sophisticated coolminiornot photo setups it always screws up a proper depiction of what i painted. it drives me crazy, i tells ya!

19-10-2012, 09:49
These guys are rly great! I rly like the sharp contrast to the black clothing and the pale green skin.. It's a rly cool skin tone you have there.. I think I will subscribe to your thread .. I very seldom come across the 40k forums , so I will make sure to follow these green skins.
Is there any chance you can share your recipe for the skin ? :) I'd like to try it out one day
Good job. Keep it up!


19-10-2012, 11:55
...Is there any chance you can share your recipe for the skin ? :)


you can find his recipe on page 1 ;)

19-10-2012, 19:35
These guys are rly great! I rly like the sharp contrast to the black clothing and the pale green skin.. It's a rly cool skin tone you have there.. I think I will subscribe to your thread .. I very seldom come across the 40k forums , so I will make sure to follow these green skins.
Is there any chance you can share your recipe for the skin ? :) I'd like to try it out one day
Good job. Keep it up!


Thanks for the kind words, friend. I went all for the conrtrast ... usually i might have gone darker with the skin but then all the nice details seem to vanish on the tabletop, so i went for the lighter green, better contrast. as my brother pointed out, the recipe is on the previous page - in a rather lengthy post, i gotta admit. :) still, i'm surprised that you ask for my recipe, since your greenies look pretty rad. i mean...i like the slightly texturized look you gave them and there's some beautiful highlighting and detailing going on with your army. so, if anything, this even more of a compliment to me. :) thank you very much.

19-10-2012, 20:59
Ye I saw :) Thanks for heads up btw, Lowkey. I realized you're using a lot of non GW stuff .. which is all I have ... I don't get out much :p So I guess I'll try to find the best match ...
I just rly like that "pale" kind of green , and the contrast to the black. I like to try out new recipes - especially for my Savages. Their skin colors vary a bit.
I saw a skin tone similar to yours once and tried out the recipe, but it rly didn't work out for me..

But I guess to make the most of your recipe I'd want to go for a similar color of clothing as well :D The savages don't care much about fashion though - but I have some orcs from the Assault on black reach box. Would like to try it. I've painted a few and ended up with a rather cartoon/baby/scorpion(gw light green) kind of green , but it's not rly what I was looking for I realized.

well that was an awful lot of talking :p I'll look into it and see if I can make my way with some GW paints and achieve something similar.

all the best

20-10-2012, 09:40
hey no problem. i found this nice Paint_Range_Compatibility_Chart (http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Paint_Range_Compatibility_Chart) at dakkadakka. maybe it provides a little help, although comparing P3 paints to other ranges seems to be somewhat difficult.

20-10-2012, 15:21
Oh - that's very smart :) thumbs up to the guys who made that .. seems like quite a lot of work.
Ty mate.

le Mediko
21-10-2012, 10:52
Your paint is very clean and crisp, I like the figs very much.

08-12-2012, 22:40
love the skin tones

29-07-2013, 00:13
I thought it was time to update this thread...I've been painting a few minis recently, while my live has changed significantly. I now have my masters degree and work full time now. still, the hobby remains a constant factor in my life. if you guys go back a page, you can see these two fellas in their base coats. here's how they looked in between:

then changed to this:

and to keep you guys in the loop - i've started a blog which will hopefully be a collection of all i do in one spot. i will still post updates in my plogs here, but more in depth info on how i did what you might find there. (link is in my signature)
as a minor teaser to what else i've been doing:

hope you enjoyed the pics. :) please let me know what you think and in case you visit the blog, leave a comment, tell me what you'd like me to show, explain or what you think of this self indulgent crap. ;)


29-07-2013, 20:11
Just so you guys know, the herder and the mek are finished by now. I just need to take some proper pics of them. Which is basically the bane of my painterly existence...taking proper pics of my minis. Nevertheless will I try to brave the horrors of finding the right settings on my camera and adjusting the lighting in photoshop, just to brag about my minis. ;) ...damn, the pain meds i got for my root canal treatment are making me...weird.

By the way, the blog got updated with more Tau pictures. Once i find the time to take some more pics of them (again with the pictures...) I will add a threat about this little project of mine.


30-07-2013, 05:26
Great to see an update here :) Good thing I subbed. Very nice painting! Great colors for the Tau.. I might check out those other plogs... will there be pictures you say? ;)

30-07-2013, 16:02
It's great to be able to finally update the threads. I have wanted to do this for ages. Thanks for the kind comment, LocaLicious. The other plogs will be updated with newer pictures, yes. More of my painted Tau can be seen on my blog (see signature), but once I find the time, I will create a thread for them, too. That's a lot of plogs, but I need to vary my painting, so I won't get bored by the same color palette over and over.

Although the blog will get updated this week with a How To for a Raven Guard chaplain, that I've teased in my Marines plog.

I hope I haven't confused anyone with all the blogs and plogs talk.


06-08-2013, 11:15
Got some more eye candy for you guys. Took some snapshots of the finished minis last night and will hopefully get to do some more professional shots later this week. Until then, enjoy:




Comments, questions and critique are always welcome. OR check out my blog for the first part of a How-to article on my Raven Guard chaplain. Second part will be published this week.


09-08-2013, 13:28
Looks good :) I like the glowing effects here and there. Keep it up

09-08-2013, 13:56
Thanks, Loca! It's pretty damn hard to paint the entire waaagh to this standard, but I enjoy it nevertheless. Still, it's always good to get some input from others on here to stay motivated.

But to anyone who says, you can't paint an entire army to that standard (at least without an airbrush) I tell you, you're wrong. It just takes insanely long. :D



The second How to post for the Raven Guard Chaplain went live yesterday on my blog, too. Feel free to check it out and leave acomment maybe. I'll be happy to reply. :)


09-08-2013, 17:37
It just takes insanely long. :D

hear hear!! I started playing Dark Angels after being lured into the game by an old coworker (never played - just painted) so now I urge to get them all painted up to field an army...

I still like the matt skin tones and cloth color - as mentioned some time in 2012 :D

Army shot soon ?

Hadriel Caine
12-08-2013, 20:01
Great painting and conversions. I like the ork skintones.

13-08-2013, 15:10
@Loca: I've always been more of a painter than a player, but I enjoy the game nevetheless. Getting a whole army painted though, for me it's a feat equal to the herculean tasks. more than 15 years in the hobby but I haven't finished one damned army project. although the tau and the orks are shaping up nicely.army shot is still not much to look at, at least for an ork army, but I'll see what i can do.

@hadriel: thanks mate. i'm always happy to get some encouragement. but i try to take critique to heart, too. there was somebody commenting on me not painting the lids of the orks' eyes. at first i thought that this was an insane comment, but now i absolutely look out for these parts. all recent orks do have eyelids. :D


13-08-2013, 21:21
really like these orks (despite being stinking goffs) the skin is really nice and the eyes pop, brings the models to life

14-08-2013, 09:33
It might be slow but the results seem to be worth it.
I really like the skin. The yellow tint gives it a certain healthy glow. The OSL are rather cool to.

Any vehicles coming up?

14-08-2013, 18:15
That Runtherd has the best Ork skin I've seen! It's a perfect blend of the 'grittier' skintones and the bright pop of cartoonier renditions. The brown through green up to yellow works great. Saved for inspiration. :)

14-08-2013, 21:48
Wow, thanks for all the nice comments, guys. I'm glad you all like the skin, it took me ages to find a tone that i actually really like. It's the most time consuming part on my orks. Everything else is rather easy. Duncan rhodes (studio painter @gw hq) once told me to basically get faces and bases right, mostof the other parts will not be as important to a tabletop mini. When it comes to fantasy, shields are another part of the formula of "get your minis to look fancy with only medium amount of work".

I will do some kind of army shot soon, too, so that might be interesting.


15-08-2013, 01:35
Woot beautiful army! Makes me want to take out my orcs for a spin! Only thing that stops me is thinking of painting 100ish models for a 1500 point list as opposed to the 30ish models in my 1500pt GK list :D.

When you take that army shot, could you do a separate one with the non-painted stuff too? Just so we can see what's on the back burner.

15-08-2013, 03:13
Haha, sure, i can do that. I bet that won't be depressing at all, with about 30ish models painted and about 70'beong all grey plastic. :D

Seriously though, I will post some of the still grey models that have found their way onto the painting table sometime this week, I guess.