View Full Version : Heresy Era Ultramarines - A two year project.

07-10-2012, 16:37
After buying the new HH book, life took a new turn. I am a long time Ultramarine player with a large collection but it's about to get larger. After a long talk with my partner a decision was made, we add a full battalion of 30k Ultramarines to the collection.

If you haven't read the book then each Legion is loosely the same. Chapters->Battalions->Companies. I will be collecting the 3rd Chapter's 2nd Battalion. Two companies, the first will be tactical, the second specialist. I have a clear vision in mind. Only Mk2, 3 and Mk4 armours only. If you've read the HH Black Library books then you'll know why, if not then here's why. Mk5 was the patch jobs that the Raven Guard patched together after Istavaan and Mk6 was the armour saved from Mars in Mechanicium and gifted to the Raven Guard. Niether of these spread till later in the Heresy.

So on to the first company. Tactical. I love the idea of straight forward nonsence approach of Legion Squads. So first things first, 2 full tactical squads, 40 marines will be a good start. Also it's a scary thing to face :p. A Praetor to lead the company, some Apothecaries and a Contemptor fill the elites. The rest made of support squads upto the total of 2000pts.

The 2nd Company consists of the Battalions Specialists. A Praetor taking the Pride of the Legion Rite helps withe feel of things. I already own some of the new Cataphractii terms and these will fill my compulsory choices. After that it's all fun things. Heavy Support squads, Seekers and a Moritat at least. Any ideas for what I should add to either company is welcome. I will be using Mk3 'Iron' armour as Hardened Power Armour.

First photo's will be up soon amonst which will be the Cataphractii, a Praetor and a Contemptor.

See you all soon.


07-10-2012, 17:40
Hi guys here's the first pictures.

Contemptor. 154245


08-10-2012, 09:04
Just sprayed the Cataphractii painting starts today.

08-10-2012, 12:17
Dread looks nice, can't wait to see some more finished pics

08-10-2012, 14:58
Looking nice!It's a shame, the picture are turned around.. Looking forward to new inspiring Ultramarines stuff ;)

08-10-2012, 15:23
Uploading the photos straight from my S2. If anyone knows how I can sort this out I'd appreciate it.

Thanks for the comments guys.

08-10-2012, 16:08
Turn the camera by 90 degrees?

Upload the pictures to photobucket first, or an equivalent hosting site. You can rotate them there and have them appear on warseer at full size by linking to where the image is hosted. Or import them to your computer first and rotate there. Easily done and we don't risk spinal issues looking at your models.

I rotated your squad image for you. Much lower resolution than if you did it from your computer. All I ask is that you give me your Cataphractii termies because I don't have mine yet :(


I'll be interested to see what you end up with when these guys are painted. Have fun.

08-10-2012, 22:28
Thanks for the feed back. I had thought I might have to upload to the comp first rather than from my phone.

Hopefully I'll have the first 5 finished by wednesday night and uploaded.

10-10-2012, 10:42
A quick update on the Praetor wip.


c&c welcome.

10-10-2012, 15:51
So works going slower than I would like but I have to stop for the day now. Family can't be ignored any longer :D So here he is, my Praetor wip.

12-10-2012, 11:38
Sorry for the delay guys but the Praetor is pretty much done now. He'll lead the 1st Company with his Paragon blade. Not sure how i'll do the blade yet. Ideas welcome.

12-10-2012, 12:47
Nice paint job.

With the blade, it looks like it doesn't line up with the handle. Is that how it's meant to be? If not then that's something I'd want to address. You might need to pin it on to get the angle right, rather than straight glueing.

Otherwise, keep up the good work.

Oh and seriously, just take landscape photos if you can't turn them around!

12-10-2012, 16:30
Paintjob is realy nice. Looking forward for this project

12-10-2012, 16:33
It was me being in a rush to get the photo up. Sorry guys.

The pommel is meant to be angled. Different I know, but a running joke amonst friends.

20-10-2012, 10:30
My apologies guys for the slow progress. Heres a quick update on the Cataphractii.

Base colours are done and the black and purple washes done too.

Here's a pic to tide you over.155265

20-10-2012, 11:25
On the pics side, in my very limited experience i've found you'll get a clearer image of the models if you place a flat background behind them - like a sheet of white card, or inside of a box - and it makes the colours stand out more. I would recommend you doing the same because a few pictures are a bit fuzzy.

But those Termi's are looking darn good.

20-10-2012, 19:17
these are looking good mate

20-10-2012, 19:57
a lovely start, really nicely done. looking forward to your future updates.

27-10-2012, 23:12
I must apologise for the late update everyone. In the end the Cataphractii didn't look quite right to me so I had to repaint them. Almost satisfied now.

But good news I've added some reinforcements in the form of a MKii Land Raider and 15marines of various armour patterns.

On a side note people after talking to alot of people I realised not many knew how much stuff can be used from their i current collections. Routing around I found 20 scouts, 5 dreads, drop pods, terminators and various other modelsn Preheresy armour.

28-10-2012, 10:46
Regarding the Cataphrachtii, did you buy 2 special weapon sets to get all those lightning claws?
I love the Contemptor BTW :)

28-10-2012, 21:05
Regarding the Cataphrachtii, did you buy 2 special weapon sets to get all those lightning claws?

Yes. I sadly spent far too much at GDUK this year (As I do every year, damn you Forge World). You only get Two pairs of claws per set. I'll need another 3 sets for what I'm planning, with Guilliman so far away I need a Primach equaliser. This comes from 10 Catephractii with 2 plasma blasters, thunder hammers and combi plasmas.. All in a Ram. My one concession to gaming practicality.

31-10-2012, 14:20
Hello everyone,

I may have mentioned before that things are a little hectic so painting is slow. Well here is the first Catephractii that I am happy with. The claws and armour needs two more highlights each but I couldn't wait to show my progress.


The next three to follow shortly.

01-11-2012, 20:28
very nice. looking forward to seeing the final product.

02-11-2012, 15:52
Squad almost finished. I haven't decided on the bases yet but may go with some scenic ruins to represent Calth.

03-11-2012, 11:42
Okay so here's the last update before I finish them. Off to work now. Still a few touches to go.

03-11-2012, 12:00

And here's the squad as it stands.

04-11-2012, 11:13
Legio reinforcements in bound ++ Mkii Land Raider ++

04-11-2012, 12:51
Pics aren't the best, but I actually like the look of Ultramarines, and yours do them justice!

04-11-2012, 20:38
they are coming along nicely, finish them there claws. landraider for the win

04-11-2012, 22:45
@unwanted I like many collected Ultras as my first 40k army. In my early twenties I deciced to collect them again, this time as army to show that Ultras are interesting, colourful and full of possibilities. As a quick side note I've now got two full companies with support elements. This blog and the army that grows will be my show case portion.

@everyone else - Again my apologises on the photos. Building a basic lightbox soon so expect some retakes on old pics.vg

07-11-2012, 12:29
So here is the fully based unit and Praetor. Sorry it took so long.

Land Raider and next 5 Cataphractii will follow soon.

07-11-2012, 12:42
Apologies on the photos. Here they are the right way up.

20-01-2013, 18:37
Hello everyone, first off sorry for the long absence.

But in this time I have expanded the army to this:
So new to the army are the 5 Autocannon guys at the back, the Storm eagle and the Moritat.
Here's a closer loom at the Storm Eagle

20-01-2013, 19:13
I like it. The SE looks like it turned out perfect. Good job :)

30-01-2013, 19:45
these are looking great what else are you going to add

30-01-2013, 19:53
these are looking great what else are you going to add

Thanks guys, well I'm open to suggestions. Personally I would like to add another 25 tac marines next.
But I'll endevour to collect and paint up the most popular suggestion next.

So whats it going to be people? A Spartan maybe? Another Dread? Maybe some characters? Who knows? Keep the cost under 100 please and it will happen.

Lets hear those suggestions guys.

01-02-2013, 19:29
So I've finally finished the other 5 Cataphractii so I thought I'd update the pictures alittle. First will be the Cataphractii, all ten.163175163176163177

01-02-2013, 19:37
Apologies on the photos I don't know why it keeps loading them sideways.I'll correct it tomorrow with the other pics I wanted to load tonight.

05-02-2013, 19:38
ok. I say after having a nose just go for the spartan (I want one) though two more contemtors would look pretty cool too

05-03-2013, 13:14
Any updates old boy

11-03-2013, 12:21
Hello Warseer,

I'd like to start with an apology, its been far too
long. Life keeps intrupting by hobby.
On the bright side I have some new things to show off.1662911662921662931662941662951662961662971662 98166299166300
So here we go:

11-03-2013, 14:49
Alot of pictures put up quickly there. And here's some more:

So thats the whole collection minus 5 mkiii marines yet to be built. The collection rounds out at about 3k. I would like to add a breacher squad or enlarge the tact squads to 20.

12-03-2013, 01:24
These are coming together, have you got much more planned ? How many points you working upto

12-03-2013, 07:50
I don't have a final points tally planned. There are alot things I'd like to add. A Fellblade would be nice as would a unit of Destroyers. Another 20 tactical marines are planned as are more Hqs and a second Contemptor with Kheres. Still umming and ahhhing over whether I should get a second Storm Eagle too. Don't forget it's only been 5 months, I've got another 19 left.

12-03-2013, 13:01
It will be interesting to see what Forgeworld bring out in the way of Ultramarines though I dont see them doing that this year, of were lucky we might have a preview at Gamesday.

12-03-2013, 13:26
Ultramarines will be at least twobooks, probably three. Playing a game tonight with them vs orks. We've proxyed the rules abit I'll explain later when I finish work.

12-03-2013, 17:50
So as promised the rules for tonights game, Orks first: We will both be using the Age of Darkness foc to keep things fair.Because of this I expect to see a Stompa in a 4k game. I also expect to see lots if Big Meks due to the Hqs you can field. We have also doubled the max unit size to get som truely scary units of Orks. Also as a giggle and a nod to the old Irk empires, once per turn you can resurect one dead unit on a 4+. The last two rules should lead to me facing a never ending tide if Orks.

Now we had a tough time here, what somes up a Ultramarine.
Heres what we decided
Legion Rules: May always decide to fail a leadership test.
Conquerers not Destroys: Objectives in the opponents dz count as double vp.
And thats just leaves Guilliman. Alot of debate came here as my friend, Gary, wants to kill a Primarch(haha not on my watch) but I couldn't bring myself to field the others a proxy so we made one based on the books.
Guilliman: 450pts.
Ws 7 Bs 7 S6 T6 W5 I7 A5 Ld10
Gauntlets of Ultramar S: user x2, AP:2, Special rule: Specialist weapons, concussion. Bolter as normal.
Armour of the Honoured. Sv 2+, 3++. Nucio vox.
Protector of the 500. All friendly units within 18" can claim objectives, all units.
My Magnus Opum: D3+3 Units chosen by the player gain the USR Prefered Enemy. Character get it for +10pts.
This I feel really represents a Primarchs effect on his sons. They fight harder, longer and smarter.

Disposable Hero
12-03-2013, 19:01
Awesome project!

Have a great battle tonight!

12-03-2013, 23:23
First off thank you for the kind comment Disposable Hero. Secondly holy crap was that game epic.
Gary was on form tonight with his list. He took my 30k horde ideas and ran, no, sprinted away with it. 20 Lootas in a battlewagon= scary. Whats worse than a unit of 10 commandos turning up? 2 units of twenty, same edge same turn.

But it didn't go all Garys way. I rolled a 5 for Guillimans My Magnus Opum rule. So all three Cataphractii squads, 5 HSS with auto cannons, my LSS with meltas and a full tactical squad. All those squads made a big mess, the meltas finished off the stompa after two turns of the Spartan firing at it. Speaking of which a Flare Shield is hilarious on the Spartan.
And Guilliman....... well he could of got bogged down the 200+ Orks, luckily he got out off the Storm Eagle the turn before it died( bloody Lootas) and made a bloody mess in the centre out of the 12 killa kans and four deff dreads storming towards my tactical centre. He survived everything including the damned mega supa gatler gun.

A hilarious game with lots of blood shed and surprising results. The winner was....
The Hobby. The game ignited both our love off the game and seeming simple rules. I have never been so scared at facing so many models before. I won but it was largely due to my Conquerors, not destroyers Rule. I claimed all objective butsome normally wouldn't have counted. And watching the utter carnage was fun.

13-03-2013, 04:00
Good game by the sounds of it, what was the full army lists? Looking forward to the next battle report also.

13-03-2013, 21:47
Sounded brilliant!!! I can't wait for Gulliman's rules, and yours look great.

13-03-2013, 23:26
Thanks. I tried to Balance him between super human warrior and the tactical genius. Those rules had a massive effect end game and the preferred enemy was scary. Also 7 S10 attacks was just mean but I removed the I1 rule from the fists felt right. A Primarch shouldn't fight last except against another Primarch.

25-03-2013, 12:20
Forge World have done it again. Once again the last few tactical marines I need to take me to 40 will put on hold, again. Damn those bikes, I normally field 6 in 40k so a unit in 30k makes sense to me as I can make the most of the unit. Alsi I need the parts to convert them to older marks of armour.

25-04-2013, 23:06
Well it's been a while and whilst I've been very busy I have found time to add a few new models. First up 5 more mkiii to take my tactical count to 22 marines.
A finally a new unit type for the army, the Breachers.169622169623.
The sarge I enjoyed kit bashing. He's a bit like the FW event model which I have hidden somewhere stupid. I might have to dig him out and use as a consul.

27-04-2013, 11:04
Been a little since I posted up the collection pictures so I thought I'd pop up the current army list minus Guilliman of course. I've got a game up soon against IG using the same rules as before.

So here's the list:
Praetor; MC Paragon blade, Combi-melta, Digi-lasers and Cataphractii Armour. 192pts
Legio Command; 4 Cataphractii, Autocannon.&PS, Chainfist &banner, Chainfist and combi-plasma, Pair of Claws 237pts

Moritat; Two Plasma Pistols and Artificer Armour(AA from now on) 115pts
Siege Breaker; Boarding Shield, Thunder Hammer, AA and 3 Phosphex Grenades 170pts

5 Cataphractii; 5 Pairs of Lightning Claws 250pts
5 Cataphractii; 4x Thunder Hammer & Combi-plasma, 1 Chainfist and Plasmablaster 260pts
Contemptor with CCW/ built in Graviton Gun and a Plasma Cannon 200pts

10 Legion Tactical marines; Sarge with AA and PF, Vexilla and nuncio-vox 195pts
12 LT marines; Sarge with AA and PF, Vex and Vox 215pts
10 Breacher Squad marines; Sarge with AA and TH, 2 Graviton guns 310pts
5 Legio Support Squad Marines; Sarge with PS, 4 Melta guns

Fast Attack
Storm Eagle; Lascannons and Ceramite Armour 270pts

Heavy Support
Legio Heavy Support Squad; 5 marines with Autocannons, Augury Scanner 165pts
Mkii Phobos pattern Land Raider; Frag Launchers 260pts
Spartan; Armoured Ceramite and a Flare Shield 340pts

Totalling: 3,349 pts

C&C welcome as always. Cheers.

29-04-2013, 11:18
My game has been moved forward so whilst getting it ready I thought I'd take a quick picture.

29-04-2013, 17:33
My goodness, what a lot of cataphactii. looks impressive, the larger squad size makes HH armies a lot more imposing.

29-04-2013, 17:38
Well it's only ten Cataphractii. The others are a Cataphractii command squad, banner and all.

01-05-2013, 09:43
Okay so thats the last time I talk tactics with a opponent before a game. I faced two squadrons of two Punishers with three heavy bolters each. I had destroyed them by turn three but christ they ruined my infantry by then. Only the Breachers and Cataphractii remained un scathed. The Strom Eagle had.a tough time dealing with two Vendettas but I got lucky when I machine spirited the Multimelta at the closer one and lascannoned the other. Jink saves failed equals two falling wrecks, one killing 15 gaurdsmen. A combined platoon of thirty felt the wrath of the Moritat who killed 24 in a turn, and without Volkites.
The Siege Breaker did nothing until he git within range to throw his first Phoshex Grenade and then life got messy. He jumped the wall to rob them of cover saves and did not scatter. By the time it moved 2" 17 guardsmen died. Then the two Grav guns from the breachers fired and another 11 died. They promptly fled but as there was three templates all causing difficult and dangerous terrain meant they didn't go far and another 6 died. The Breachers almost died to a Rough Rider charge but one and the sarge survived.

02-05-2013, 02:19
WOW you got lucky on those Vendettas, mine normally never go down without a few rounds of shooting at them, how many hull points does the Storm Eagle have?

As for eating the guardsmen that's exactly the reason why if I'm going up against a challenging opponent then I don't field that many men and if I do then they're in armour! :)

What about the Land Raiders, did you use them if so which variants?

02-05-2013, 07:14
WOW you got lucky on those Vendettas, mine normally never go down without a few rounds of shooting at them, how many hull points does the Storm Eagle have?

What about the Land Raiders, did you use them if so which variants?

The Storm Eagle has four hull points and two twinlinked las and a twinlinked Multimelta. At +2 on the chart its not surprising that once I hit was going down :-)

Both the MKii and the Spartan did well combined with the melta squad they took down the Punishers in rapid speed. Thats six twin linked lascannons between them.

02-05-2013, 18:22
The Storm Eagle has four hull points and two twinlinked las and a twinlinked Multimelta. At +2 on the chart its not surprising that once I hit was going down :-)

Both the MKii and the Spartan did well combined with the melta squad they took down the Punishers in rapid speed. Thats six twin linked lascannons between them.

Ah, sounds fun. That's one of the joys of the Heresy Lists, its so much fun versus Guard, 80 bolter shots equals many dead men.

02-05-2013, 20:35
Unfortunatly my two tactical squads got *#@&<* by the four Punishers pretty quickly. 140 shots a turn made mincemeat out of one squad the other advanced behind the Spartan and Mkii. 4k of Guard is a scary prospect to face.

Planing on adding 6 Outriders next but then I need to crack on with painting. Planning on taking them as a 40k force to Council of War in October. There's enough models now to make "normal" squads. May look into possible Deathwing allies to field the cataphractii as they are otherwise it will be just the 5 Lightning Claw guys. Still be cool though.