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Neknoh
13-05-2006, 11:33
So, I have lately taken an interest in animé mech designs, so, I am now wondering, is the game Mechwarriors something worth to start collecting?

Yarick Zan
13-05-2006, 11:44
are you talking about the minis or some other kind of game? it really all depends. i know alot about mechwarrior and battletech because i was into them before warhammer. i didnt do the minis but i played some of the other games and read alot of the books and found it to be pretty damn good stuff. its library of books is bigger than that of the black library, some if not alot are better written. and its a kind of way to keep away from the grimness of the warhammer worlds while still being somewhat grim.

in essence its all up to you. oh and by the way they arnt exactly anime they were originally designed and produced by an american company called FASA which no longer exists today. though it has produced some other wonderful things. but it is definately not anime.

devolutionary
13-05-2006, 11:56
hmmm yes, Battletech and it's spin-offs are anything but Anime. The stylings of the various 'Mechs tends to be more aircraft in design, following similar curves, and fairly graceless comparatively. The Timber Wolf (or Mad Cat, for you Inner Sphere scum), arguably FASA's flagship 'Mech, is a really good example of this - http://gallery.mcneel.com/fullsize/madcat.jpg

Neknoh
13-05-2006, 13:44
Ah yes, different designs and such, but still, big **** robots shooting it out with eachother and with infantry as well as tanks, I love the look and thought of it.

And I am talking about the miniature game

Yarick Zan
13-05-2006, 13:50
though i do hate to say this considering i love battletech and all its glory. being the complete nerd that i am, i noticed somthing one day while reading a battletech novel and looking in the back where they used to have a gallery of mechs and such. i noticed a STRIKING similarity between the battletech Pheonix Hawk here (http://users.anet.com/~cplkagan/information/phk-hk5S.htm) and the robotech Valkyries here (http://www.robotech.com/community/fan/art/viewfanart.php?id=2217), and also the battletech Marauder here (http://members.toast.net/tgreer/gallery/maraud1.jpg) and the robotech Officers Pod here (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/sdfmacross/glaug.jpg)

i dont know about the rest of you but that is just too much of a similarity to be coincidental.

hmm so either somone got lazy and stole the images, or they have already taken care of it. i wonder whats the story behind this.

Neknoh
13-05-2006, 13:53
Oh my... so it IS slightly affected by animé after all

Yarick Zan
13-05-2006, 13:56
or it just flat out steals stuff from it. i wonder if there has been a lawsuit for copyright infringement.

just as a note, id advise reading alot of the novels before you start the game. they arnt exactly hard to find but the older ones are. it gives you a feel for the universe and also lets you decide what faction you like the best. i myself prefer the clans (specificly the ghost bear) over all.

devolutionary
13-05-2006, 21:50
Have you checked the age on those creations? Because some battletech stuff goes back many many years ;)

Yarick Zan
13-05-2006, 21:55
ive done some checking here. it appears robotech predates battletech by one year. give or take a few months. but anyways am i the only person who finds that somewhat weird?

Warden
14-05-2006, 18:19
Yes they are Similar beacuse someone at FASA SAid he designed them when he didnt, FASA lost a court battlke over them as well.

Also the Warhammer and a few other designs where ripped from Macross/Robotech.

Macros of course coming before the Americanised version.

Yarick Zan
14-05-2006, 19:09
yea thats what i thought. i didnt know if they had gone to court over it or not. i bet somone got fired over that.

Shipmonkey
15-05-2006, 14:05
Yes they are Similar beacuse someone at FASA SAid he designed them when he didnt, FASA lost a court battlke over them as well.



So when you make something like this up and post it on the 'Net does it make it true?

No one at FASA ever claimed to have designed the Macross, Dougram, or Crusher Joe units that populated the first Battletech boxset. FASA licensed those designs images from the US company importing those models of the mechs from Japan. The problem later became that the import company FASA was dealing with didn't have the rights to license those images. The whole thing came to ahead after FASA sued Playmates for including a vary obvious Mad Cat in the Exosquad toy line. In response, Playmates(which also was releasing Robotech toys at the time) and Harmony Gold launched a countersuit against FASA over the Macross designs. FASA did not lose that lawsuit, they simply stopped using the contested designs, and the lawsuit dropped.

Please try to know atleast a little about your subject before inventing "facts".

And on a final note, was the original poster talking about Battletech or Mechwarrior:AoD the collectable mini game? The AoD game has many very anime like peices in it.

Lafeel Abriel
15-05-2006, 14:59
though i do hate to say this considering i love battletech and all its glory. being the complete nerd that i am, i noticed somthing one day while reading a battletech novel and looking in the back where they used to have a gallery of mechs and such. i noticed a STRIKING similarity between the battletech Pheonix Hawk here (http://users.anet.com/~cplkagan/information/phk-hk5S.htm) and the robotech Valkyries here (http://www.robotech.com/community/fan/art/viewfanart.php?id=2217), and also the battletech Marauder here (http://members.toast.net/tgreer/gallery/maraud1.jpg) and the robotech Officers Pod here (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/sdfmacross/glaug.jpg)

i dont know about the rest of you but that is just too much of a similarity to be coincidental.

hmm so either somone got lazy and stole the images, or they have already taken care of it. i wonder whats the story behind this.

That is because it is no coincidience. FASA liked the look of those designs, and "borrowed" them for their own..Unfortunately they got caught, and the original creators were not amused by their antics..

I don't mind, in any case..The new versions (ala Phoenix Project) look so much better than the originals.:D

Neknoh
15-05-2006, 15:00
I was talking about AoD, I guess I need to be more specifik :p

Rykion
15-05-2006, 15:08
As posted above, no one from FASA claimed to have designed the 'mechs based on Anime. They believed they had the rights to the designs' use from a licensing agreement with an import company that it turns out didn't have the power to give them those rights.

The Mechwarrior collectable game plays pretty fast. Most of the units look good, and the game gets good support from Wizkids, the company that makes it. The important stats for each unit are on the base with a spinning wheel inside that shows the effects of damage, and another small part that turns to show effects of overheating.

Battletech, now called Classic Battletch, is the game that started the Universe. It is extremely detailed, and takes a long time to play unless you limit yourself to a handful of units per side. Each 'mech and vehicle has a detailed stat sheet which allows weapons and systems to be destroyed and limbs blown off. The miniatures are metal and must be assembled and painted.

Senbei
28-05-2006, 22:53
There are some very nice AOD pieces but the system as a whole sufferes from a scale problem. I have an AOD version of a Locust mech and it looks very nice..... Fluff wise its a 20 ton machine.... It's also 4 times bulkier than the 60 ton Battle tank that came in the same box as it did.

On the bright side I put the tank on a hex base and use it for battletech where it is only slightly smaller than a prone Hunchback (a larger mech than the locust).

Overall I love Battletech more than Mechwarrior but its not an easy game to get into with all the mechs split amongst different periods, factions and technology bases. Once your in there however, its a great game.