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Poseidal
14-10-2012, 20:16
How much GW art has got on album covers? (especially metal album covers). Apart from D-Rok and Bolt Thrower, I noticed these:

I was trawling through YouTube, and then saw a link with the Chaosette (Amazonia Gothique) on it, by John Blanche. Apparently, that was used on an album by Cloven Hoof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominator_%28Cloven_Hoof_album%29 the dominator album cover.

Then, I noticed the UK cover of a Saxon album was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forever_Free_%28Saxon_album%29 (scroll down); are those Dark Angels attack bikers?

It seems like this era was pretty rife with these! any others anyone else has noticed?

Hengist
15-10-2012, 10:49
Well spotted!

I hadn't seen the Cloven Hoof one before, but it is indeed John Blanch's Amazonia Gothique piece, which is a generic (if very nicely-executed and indeed award-winning) bit of fantasy art. The Saxon one is pretty blatant however; it's the cover of the Rogue Trader-era Vehicle Manual.

shelfunit.
15-10-2012, 10:50
Were any of them signed up to Warhammer records at the time?

Hengist
15-10-2012, 12:00
No. Even in 1992, their most successful days behind them, Saxon were signed to a real record label (in this instance Virgin Records, having previously been signed to EMI). Cloven Hoof (not a band of any great prominence, even in their time) were signed initially to NWOBHM label Neat Records, and later to indie label Revolver, best known for having been the early home of the Stone Roses.

The only band ever actually signed to Warhammer Records was D-Rok; Bolt Thrower were just fans of the game, and were signed to Nottingham-based label Earache (home to a number of other extreme metal/grindcore types including Carcass). Unlike D-Rok, Bolt Thrower - though not everybody's cup of tea - weren't rubbish either.

Maccwar
15-10-2012, 12:13
On a slight tangent, anyone remember the photos in White Dwarf of Hawkwind being given a tour of GW HQ back in the 80s?

morvaeldd
15-10-2012, 19:37
I wish there would exist a power metal band inspired by 40k... Bolt Thrower is too heavy for my ears. But in these mad IP-wars days that would require a lot of money for licensing, so I guess it's impossible to come to life. I can only dream about something like Sabaton but in 40k setting...

DarkLordBelial
15-10-2012, 20:48
I've got the Cloven Hoof LP and it never clicked that it was a piece of Warhammer art. Although it's bloody obvious now you mention it!

jonthebetrayer
15-10-2012, 21:01
What dragged me into playing and painting GW stuff, was buying a White dwarf with a flexi disc in it, the band was called Sabbat, They have used a John Blanche picture for an album
I don't know what the picture is called though.

jonthebetrayer
15-10-2012, 21:11
http://http://991.com/newGallery/Sabbat-History-Of-A-Time-453702.jpg (http://991.com/newGallery/Sabbat-History-Of-A-Time-453702.jpg)

Hengist
15-10-2012, 22:05
Not a bad album, even though the production has dated somewhat. Yet again, the same rather excellent Blanche picture (titled, if memory serves, 'The Horned God') also appears in the Warhammer 3rd ed. rulebook.

shelfunit.
16-10-2012, 08:02
Yet again, the same rather excellent Blanche picture (titled, if memory serves, 'The Horned God') also appears in the Warhammer 3rd ed. rulebook.

I had to go and check that one - pg 184 for reference, going under the title of "Horned is the Hunter" - getting to it I was amazed to see just how much amazing art work is actually in the 3rd ed rules. Fantastic amounts of brilliant fantasy art all over the place from a huge number of different artists. I never really looked at that rule book from an art perspective before, but it really is excellent!

Earl_UK
16-10-2012, 10:17
I think all of the GW artwork albums have been dodgy metal bands as better metal bands are closet players HAH

Hengist
16-10-2012, 11:35
Indeed. Though there are a few duffers in the book (including, frankly, the garish and confused cover) and a few pieces reused from GW's licensed games (two very obvious Elrics, for instance), WFB 3rd edition is still one of the most lavishly-illustrated rulebooks GW have ever produced. I'm pretty sure nothing they've produced in recent decades has featured contributions from artists half so well-regarded as Chris Achilleos or Ian Miller.

Poseidal
16-10-2012, 11:56
I have WHFB 3rd, and it is chock full of illustration. A lot of Blanche in it as well. The whole book had that eighties fantasy feel a lot of Metal covers went for in those days.

thenamelessdead
16-10-2012, 18:18
I think I'm right in saying that the legit-GW pictures have been replaced by imitations on the Bolt Thrower albums.

Batwings
16-10-2012, 20:26
"The only band ever actually signed to Warhammer Records was D-Rok"

Not so:
http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/album-groupe-Wraith_(UK)-nom_album-Danger_Calling-l-en.html

jonthebetrayer
16-10-2012, 20:31
Haha I had forgotten all about Wraith.
*starts rooting through record collection* :cheese:

Binky
18-10-2012, 08:52
Also, "Rich Rags" released their rather good album "Psycho dead heads from Outer Space" on Warhammer Records.

Hengist
18-10-2012, 15:48
I was indeed wrong! A bit more research also reveals that I was also wrong about Saxon; the initial UK release of Forever Free (possibly only the vinyl release, I'm not sure) was serial number 'WAR10' on Warhammer Records. Regrettably the re-released CD has the very dull standard cover, however.

And how did I forget Wraith... they were absolutely bloody terrible.

Sean Drake
19-10-2012, 02:04
That Wraith cover is also the front cover to the very first wd I bought number 144 if I remember correctly which had rules for sieges and fortifications for epic.

Zark the Damned
22-10-2012, 16:44
Slightly off topic, but on a similar note - one of the versions of Strider (on the Mega Drive) had Space Marines in the box art - http://sega-addicts.murnaumusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/strider-genesis.jpg

zhu bajie
22-10-2012, 17:09
Nice find Zark!

Yeah, Sabbats History of a Time to Come as a Blanche piece - that I actually think is the prototype for Slannesh / Kurnonos (blogpost here (http://realmofzhu.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/rogue-trader-musical-act-3-horned-is.html))

Also the Cloven Hoof / Amazonia Gothique here (http://realmofzhu.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/rogue-trader-space-rock-opera.html) - do read the comments below the main post as well, as there's an interesting note from Coop. Citadel also released some miniatures called Dominators near the time, not sure of they were connected. sort of proto-tyranids.

And no-body mentioned Boltthrower Realm of Chaos? Nice 8 page booklet in that too with lyrics and Ian Miller art from RoC Books.

Never seen that horrible Saxon cover, which only goes to confirm my prejudice against GWs art direction in the 90s.

cornonthecob
27-10-2012, 09:54
Galaxy Aflame do quite good 40k music.

Durloth
27-10-2012, 11:49
Horrible Norwegian Finntroll-rip offs Trollfest used a GW troll on the cover of one of their promos: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nJpP78Ze7js/RxPNHqaYQ6I/AAAAAAAAAhI/L7V6kkgzsdQ/s400/Trollfest+-+Front.jpg

I don't know if the artwork for Old Man's Child's Ill-natured Spiritual Invasion is original GW-art, but if this guy isn't a Chaos Warrior, you can call me cupcake: http://www.covershut.com/covers/Old-Mans-Child-Ill-Natured-Spiritual-Invasion-Front-Cover-30701.jpg

On a related note, Stian Arnesen (Dimmu Borgir, Troll, The Covenant etc.) use the stage name Nagash in some of his bands.

zhu bajie
28-10-2012, 16:57
Forgot to mention the other way around. GW visuals that have been inspired by album art:

Firstly the Motorhead influence on Khorne (http://realmofzhu.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/motorhead-vs-khorne.html)

Secondly the Hawkwind influence on the Imperial Aquilla (http://fightingfantasist.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/aquila-1974.html)

Thirdly the Psychic TV influence on the Imperial Inquisition (http://realmofzhu.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/thee-inquizition-ov-thee-psyker-youth.html)

Most people acknowledge the influence of Tolkien, Moorcock, Lovecraft on the Warhammer setting, but there's quite a lot of overt non-fantasy pop culture references made too.

Crube
28-10-2012, 17:02
Yep, Saxon were briefly signed to Warhammer records, as were Sabbat...

Only just before WHR was wound up though...

shelfunit.
28-10-2012, 19:13
Forgot to mention the other way around. GW visuals that have been inspired by album art:

Firstly the Motorhead influence on Khorne (http://realmofzhu.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/motorhead-vs-khorne.html)

Secondly the Hawkwind influence on the Imperial Aquilla (http://fightingfantasist.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/aquila-1974.html)

Thirdly the Psychic TV influence on the Imperial Inquisition (http://realmofzhu.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/thee-inquizition-ov-thee-psyker-youth.html)

Most people acknowledge the influence of Tolkien, Moorcock, Lovecraft on the Warhammer setting, but there's quite a lot of overt non-fantasy pop culture references made too.

Good spots there - you might want to post over in the CHS thread as well with those...

zhu bajie
02-11-2012, 11:27
Yeah, along side some trademark infringement, isn't the CHS case all about "can you make a 3D miniature based on someone elses published 2D concept art"?

A bit like the Rocky Horror Picture Show influence on Jes Goodwin (http://realmofzhu.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/dungeonpunking-rocky-horror-eternal.html)?