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Keeper
05-12-2012, 09:05
Hey,

I am finally returning to the hobby after a two year break due to university studies :D
After 13 years of Warhammer Fantasy experience I decided to jump into the 41st millenium now, since the new edition looks quite promising. I am looking forward to build a Crimson Fists force and would therefore like to ask if Vanilla marines can compete with the other books which are currently available and if it is possible to survive in a competitive environment with these guys?

Thanks for your input :)

Menthak
05-12-2012, 09:14
Of course Vanilla marines can compete with most other codices, the only problem you'd have is when you come across any of these codices :Grey Knights :Blood Angels :Space Wolves and possible :Necrons. But even then, it's not impossible to win. As for bringing it to a competitive environment, yes, I believe codex: Space Marines can bring it.

Worldeaters
05-12-2012, 10:41
If you and your regular opponents are all into Forgeworld I'd say vanilla marines are awesome with that bit of help from some Forgeworld goodness.
Without it however I personally think they suck, and I would make sure you have at least one librarian .

williamsond
05-12-2012, 10:56
I've played against some very competative vanilla marine armies, I even won a tourney with one last year. Their strength is that they are good at every thing but this is also their weekness as they suffer against very specialist armies. One thing not to be overlooked is how good a basic marine is 3+ save is great and at st 4 you are good to wound against most stuff. With vanilla marines you very very important that you work out a game plan, build you list to this plan and stick to it. That's my 10 cents anyway.

Keeper
05-12-2012, 13:19
Thanks for the kind replies so far :) The one thing I also wanted to know is wether it makes sense to start a Tau army now (which would be the alternative to vanilla marines for me) or if it is better to wait for a new codex?

dblaz3r
06-12-2012, 10:00
Nobody knows for sure how long you could be waiting for new Tau. If you don't mind waiting it out and you've got enough Crimson Fists to keep you busy then hold off, if not then get started on the Tau as well.

budman
06-12-2012, 11:56
Codex marines are solid, No more and no less... they do everything well but Not Great.
As an army to get used to the game before going on to a army with a play style that works for you.
Find out what works for you and have fun.

as for Tau They are effective now at fire and hide tactics but that's the only game they have.