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Wood Eater Ressurected
08-06-2005, 20:49
Chaos Lord @ 303 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; General; Great Weapon; Shield; Barding
Gaze of the Gods [30]
Armour of Damnation [30]
Chaos Steed

2*5 Chaos Knights @ 330 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Barding; Heavy Armour; Shield

6 Chaos Knights of Blood @ 243 Pts
Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; Barding; Heavy Armour; Shield

6 Chosen Chaos Knights @ 270 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Barding; Chosen Unit; Shield

5+8 Beast Herd @ 67 Pts
2ndWeapon

Bray Shaman @ 131 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Magic Level 1; Braystaff
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]

5+7 Beast Herd @ 88 Pts
2ndWeapon; Musician; Champ

2 Nurglings @ 80 Pts

3 Screamers of Tzeentch @ 99 Pts

3 Dragon Ogres @ 237 Pts
Great Weapon; Light Armour

2 Fiend of Slaanesh @ 150 Pts


Casting Pool: 3

Dispel Pool: 4

Models in Army: 60


Total Army Cost: 1998

uncas
09-06-2005, 07:27
2*5 Chaos Knights @ 330 Pts

chaos knights need either to be chosen or have the mark of khorne to have enough attacks to break enemy units. I would have your lord lead one of these and drop the other. The you could get some fast cavalry.


2 Nurglings @ 80 Pts
whats the point of these? The rest of the army will leave them behind.

Nukem
09-06-2005, 07:46
I would drop the great weapon and give him the Black Maul. Best weapon for chaos in my opinion and it leaves enough points for the enchanted shield and gaze of gods :)

2 bases of nurglings will get you know where. Worst swarm EVER Fricken instability.... anf poof, oh look they are gone.... ><

Otherwise I like it. I love fast chaos army's and this is about as fast as they come :).

warsmith
09-06-2005, 17:33
i think this is only a fun army, what he want is to have 5 god... right?

Wood Eater Ressurected
09-06-2005, 19:22
Legio Khorne and Silvanian Vampires had been massacred.

warsmith
09-06-2005, 19:46
=.=" i want to be massacred too....... i long time didn't massacred by anyone.......

good job u!! kill Khorne is easy but can u tell me how good are ur army list?

i want to know and learn.......

warsmith
09-06-2005, 20:07
The following is my WE old armylist........not very strong, but is ok...
Lord with Dragon , sword of might, 5+ WARD SAVE, healing potion 558 pts
2 X LV 2 mage with 2 dispell scroll 155pts @
3 X 5 GR with spear only.....105pts @
9 wardancer 135pts
9 Dry 180pts
2 TREEMAN 250pts @

i get up the shooting because it's really week..... and it is fightable army i think.........
LV 2 X 2 + 2 BOUND SPELL, i think i can move 1-2 wood in one turn..... and 4 dispell is enough before ur combet
the most important one is the healing potion......


if die before using it...? OMG=.="

Wood Eater Ressurected
09-06-2005, 20:37
Archmage with hunting S. in 5 riders on unicorn. May be scroll\PofKnoweledge
Mage with HofDA
BSB, 5+ward
2*5 archers
3*8 dryads with 1 champ
10 dancers
treeman

and truthsayer\mage+watchers\treeman

No one in our metagame dares to use wood dragon. Too easy to die. Only chaos and Dark уда gragons you can see on the table.

Wood Eater Ressurected
09-06-2005, 20:42
good job u!! kill Khorne is easy but can u tell me how good are ur army list?

Local GT is on 26th this month. Let's see


i long time didn't massacred by anyone.......

We have some very hard players with really cheesy armies for these cases.

Imagine smth like

Seer+Bell+3*20 rats with ratlinggun+1 cannon+3 engineers with bounds, 5 swarms+jezzails (15 dices to cast+bounds)

warsmith
10-06-2005, 01:14
Archmage with hunting S. in 5 riders on unicorn. May be scroll\PofKnoweledge
Mage with HofDA
BSB, 5+ward
2*5 archers
3*8 dryads with 1 champ
10 dancers
treeman

and truthsayer\mage+watchers\treeman

No one in our metagame dares to use wood dragon. Too easy to die. Only chaos and Dark уда gragons you can see on the table.

In fact, i will not usually use dragon... and for my recently WE army list is Lv10 mage
archmage with unicorn with healing potion and knowededge
3X mage LV2 ( +1 PD,DD) 3X dispell..........
5 X GR with SPEAR (MUS)
2 X 5 GR with LOWBOW (MUS)
2 X 7 DRY
2 X treeman


i dun know why use archmage to use Hunting Spear and HoDA.. just bs 4.....waste points for me
i know the reason for 3 * 8 dry with BSB , by using emery 6 to hit with BSB can usually stop emery for one turn......

In fact, Dry and dancer is overpower in last edition, but only because the suck rules for emery getting 100VP with US 5 +
personal dun think WE can win UD because of this rules.......
the army i send before is for fun........

do u think old edition, BSB can but a BoL?

samw
10-06-2005, 02:25
A BSB can't buy any weapon that requires two hands. A think even a magical bow falls into that category. :p

Wood Eater Ressurected
10-06-2005, 17:29
do u think old edition, BSB can but a BoL?

No way


i dun know why use archmage to use Hunting Spear and HoDA.. just bs 4.....waste points for me

Cos you sometimes can kill smth very expensive and you have no other way to deal with 1+ armor or Lords


the army i send before is for fun........

I guess

warsmith
10-06-2005, 17:36
A BSB can't buy any weapon that requires two hands. A think even a magical bow falls into that category. :p

becuase of that?? i just want the reason.....
agree both of ur points but i really too expensive....DoA is ok, but hunting spear is not good... move -1 .... just have 4+.....
and also, when ur archmage see them... they can or may be can charge u too.....

Wood Eater Ressurected
10-06-2005, 21:13
Which way? With fast cavalry rules for shooting, and 18 move I have a lot of possibilities to shoot in flank without danger.

Wood Eater Ressurected
10-06-2005, 21:14
And I suppose we dscuss my CHAOS roster, not one-month-more-and-we-are-history lists

warsmith
10-06-2005, 21:18
Which way? With fast cavalry rules for shooting, and 18 move I have a lot of possibilities to shoot in flank without danger.

u miss some rules.......... character with unit of fast cav can not enjoy the bonus of shooting...........

warsmith
10-06-2005, 21:26
Chaos Lord @ 303 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; General; Great Weapon; Shield; Barding
Gaze of the Gods [30]
Armour of Damnation [30]
Chaos Steed

2*5 Chaos Knights @ 330 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Barding; Heavy Armour; Shield

6 Chaos Knights of Blood @ 243 Pts
Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; Barding; Heavy Armour; Shield

6 Chosen Chaos Knights @ 270 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Barding; Chosen Unit; Shield

5+8 Beast Herd @ 67 Pts
2ndWeapon

Bray Shaman @ 131 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Magic Level 1; Braystaff
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]

5+7 Beast Herd @ 88 Pts
2ndWeapon; Musician; Champ

2 Nurglings @ 80 Pts

3 Screamers of Tzeentch @ 99 Pts

3 Dragon Ogres @ 237 Pts
Great Weapon; Light Armour

2 Fiend of Slaanesh @ 150 Pts


Casting Pool: 3

Dispel Pool: 4

Models in Army: 60


Total Army Cost: 1998

actually, i dun know a u only want to use Mortal and must be contaIN 5 marks....
if not...
Lord can be change to hero to save over 100 pts.....
too many undiv knight.......
3 Nurglings will be better
3 Screamers of Tzeentch is no use can replace by 6-9 fuies?

over all, i think u want to make a fast army and i feel this list is balance.....

Wood Eater Ressurected
10-06-2005, 21:40
Some days ago I has:

Lord on steed: gw, AofD, 4+ ward; tzee
Exalted on steed: gw, scroll. tzee
wargor: gw, ha, scroll, tzee

6 knights tzee+ 6 knights tzee chosen with wraith banner
5 horse marauders; flail, musician

3 screamers
2*6+7 beastherds FC

Hellcannon with scroll

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But now I want to keep 5 mark structure of army and tend to maximaze number of hardhitting units.

Wood Eater Ressurected
10-06-2005, 21:43
Lord can be change to hero to save over 100 pts.....

Lord return every point of his cost


too many undiv knight.......

agreed.


3 Nurglings will be better

agreed.


3 Screamers of Tzeentch is no use can replace by 6-9 fuies?

Furies are weak and first losed combat make them POOF

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Could you post some of your metagame chaos armies?

warsmith
10-06-2005, 22:03
is that need to have 5 marks structure?

warsmith
10-06-2005, 22:40
ok, that's chaos 5 marks army list (6 including no mark)

hero undivided lv2 steed, power familier (186pts)
great bray shaman lv4, nurgel 3X dispell spell familier chaos Am. braystaff ( 2+ save in cc) (373pts)
hero, tzee, great fang, steed, shield......(242pts)
5 knight undivided (165pts)
5 tzee knight (185pts)
6 kho knight (243pts)
6+12 gor champion with mus(115pts)
5+5 gor.....(55pts)
2 Fiend of Slaanesh @ (150Pts)
3 nurgling (120pts)
5 Screamers of Tzeentch (165pts)

the weakest point is LD8...
5 scre and 3 nurg..will not easy die
3 unit of knight.....
army fast enough

57 models
cast = 12
dispell = 8 + 3 dispell....

u can reject tzee hero magic weapon....
screamers... 10 gor..

If find it is useful... share ur woodies info to me ..hehe

Wood Eater Ressurected
11-06-2005, 05:20
I try smth with this HERO+Gr.Shaman combo. Too easy to die or run. Sorry.

warsmith
11-06-2005, 08:59
i think LD9 and LD8 is a big different...

only one suggestion is using hellfire sword.... pts 75 is expensive, but with D6 W and no save is reasonable..... only problem is Lord will have no ward save....

remember no armour save already cost 50pts

Wood Eater Ressurected
11-06-2005, 09:20
only one suggestion is using hellfire sword.... pts 75 is expensive, but with D6 W and no save is reasonable..... only problem is Lord will have no ward save....
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and second is that you need to wound at S5 with saves and after that... no

S7=-4 to as. That's enough

Wood Eater Ressurected
11-06-2005, 09:26
http://www.gammeljord.net/downloads/Stat.pdf

warsmith
11-06-2005, 09:55
since this edition coming out.... there can have -2 save+...S7 = -4 = 3+
can there is D6 wood... can kill anything in one turn...even greater deamon

Wood Eater Ressurected
11-06-2005, 11:50
And how much times there smth like 5+ wounds creatures have I seen on the table? Only when play against Dark Elves or Chaos. And to dragon:

3+ to hit 5+ to wound 5+ save... 5 attacks? 5*2\3*1\3*2\3= 0,7407. And D6 wounds is no 6 wounds. Rubbish.

warsmith
11-06-2005, 12:12
should it be 5*2\3*1\3= 1.11111
because it is no a.sv....
D6 average 3-4 is enough

warsmith
11-06-2005, 12:13
for me, i also will choose Great weapon to reduct pts, but Lord have I 8 ,it mean he usually attack first.....

so, use great weapon is a wasted, but emery re-roll success hit to reduce ur hero wounded %.......

Wood Eater Ressurected
11-06-2005, 13:37
No, Hellfire sword do not refuse armor save at all. Remember about Hag arrows.

And usually nobody could wound 4+\4+ to hit and 4+ ward hero (ou, exept another chaos\blooddragon lord or bloodthirster)

Wood Eater Ressurected
11-06-2005, 13:40
So, for your roster:

hero undivided lv2 steed, power familier (186pts)

great bray shaman lv4, 2X dispell chaos Am. braystaff (283pts)

hero, tzee, gw, steed, shield......(192pts)

6 knight chosen undivided (270pts)

5 tzee knight with banner of wraith (265pts)

6 kho knight (243pts)

2*(6+7) gor champion with mus(190 pts)

2 Fiend of Slaanesh @ (150Pts)

3 nurgling (120pts)
3 Screamers of Tzeentch (99pts)


54 models
cast = 12
dispell = 8

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more hitting power

warsmith
11-06-2005, 13:45
oh yes, i just trapped by AB..... so, do u have any amandment on ur list yet?

Wood Eater Ressurected
11-06-2005, 14:11
No, cos it already is Mk3. Testing-testing-testing.