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Phenatix
13-01-2013, 20:38
I have a game against my friend's Bretonnians and I'll be fielding Lizardmen. We will be playing 3000 points, and I'd like to run my list by you guys for some C&C. I don't mean to make a purely anti-Bretts list, but I want to make sure I don't have any gaping weaknesses here that I'm not seeing. The list is as follows:
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Lords- 365 pts (~12.17%)
1x Slann Mage-Priest @ 365 pts
Mage Lvl 4, Lore of Life, Battle Standard Bearer, Standard of Discipline, The Focused Rumination, The Becalming Cogitation, Plaque of Tepok

Heroes- 725 pts (~24.17%)
1x Skink Priest @ 430 pts
Mage Lvl 2, Lore of Heavens, Cube of Darkness, Ancient Stegadon with Engine of the Gods

1x Saurus Scar-Veteran @ 109 pts
Great Weapon, Light Armor, Shield, Venom of the Firefly Frog

1x Saurus Scar-Veteran @ 93 pts
Light Armor, Shield

1x Saurus Scar Veteran @ 93 pts
Light Armor, Shield

Core- 878 pts (~29.27%)
30x Saurus Warriors @ 390 pts
Saurus Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Spears

30x Saurus Warriors @ 390 pts
Saurus Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Spears

14x Skink Skirmisher @ 98 pts

Special- 710 pts (~23.67%)
5x Chameleon Skinks @ 60 pts

5x Chameleon Skinks @ 60 pts

5x Cold One Cavalry @ 185 pts
Musician

20x Temple Guard @ 405 pts
Revered Guardian, Musician, Standard Bearer, Shrieking Blade, Sun Standard of Chotec

Rare- 320 pts (~10.67%)
2x Salamander Hunting Pack @ 160 pts
Additional Skink Handler, Additional Skink Handler

2x Salamander Hunting Pack @ 160 pts
Additional Skink Handler, Additional Skink Handler

Total: 2998 pts
Lords ~12.17%
Core ~29.29%
Special ~23.68%
Rare ~10.67%
I revised the list, here it is now:
Lords-

1x Slann Mage-Priest @ 365 pts
Wizard Lvl 4, Lore of Life, Battle Standard Bearer, Standard of Discipline, The Focused Rumination, The Becalming Cogitation, Plaque of Tepok

Heroes-

1x Skink Priest @ 430 pts
Wizard Lvl 2, Lore of Heavens, Cube of Darkness, Ancient Stegadon with Engine of the Gods

1x Saurus Scar-Veteran @ 121 pts
Great Weapon, Gambler's Armor, Venom of the Firefly Frog

1x Saurus Scar-Veteran @ 96 pts
Great Weapon, Light Armor

1x Saurus Scar Veteran @ 96 pts
Great Weapon, Light Armor

Core-

30x Saurus Warriors @ 390 pts
Saurus Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Spears

30x Saurus Warriors @ 390 pts
Saurus Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Spears

13x Skink Skirmisher @ 91 pts

12x Skink Skirmisher @ 84 pts

Special-

6x Chameleon Skinks @ 72 pts

6x Chameleon Skinks @ 72 pts

6x Chameleon Skinks @ 72 pts

20x Temple Guard @ 420 pts
Musician, Standard Bearer, Burning Blade of Chotec, Razor Standard

Rare-

2x Salamander Hunting Pack @ 150 pts

2x Salamander Hunting Pack @ 150 pts

Total: 2999 pts
Lords: 365 pts (12.17%)
Heroes: 743 pts (24.77%)
Core: 955 pts (31.84%)
Special: 636 pts (21.21%)
Rare: 300 pts (10.00%)
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Thank you all in advance for any feedback =D.

Kayosiv
15-01-2013, 03:18
I'd tweak your scar veteran's a little bit. You can get magical heavy armor for 20 points, as well as decent +1 armor save items like the dragon helm. You have 25 points to make them a little more survivable, so I'd do it. I wouldn't even bother with a champion for the Temple guard unit, but certainly don't give him a magic weapon. You have a bunch of unequipped scar veterans. They can all fill the champions role of need be and they are far less frail.

Cold One Cavalry in units of 5 will not be able to do much and will die against even weak core when fighting from the front. As long as you realize this, they will work fine in a support role. If you want them to do more, consider mounting a scar-veteran to lead them.

I think you missed the Hero %.

The sun standard of Chotec is a poor items against Bretonnia because Temple Guard will shrug off bowfire like a spring rain but trebuchets will still hurt them and they don't roll ballistic skill to hit. Use the points elsewhere.

Phenatix
15-01-2013, 04:59
Ahh thank you for your post, I updated the OP to reflect my changes to the army list, which I have detailed below:
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Lords-

1x Slann Mage-Priest @ 365 pts
Wizard Lvl 4, Lore of Life, Battle Standard Bearer, Standard of Discipline, The Focused Rumination, The Becalming Cogitation, Plaque of Tepok

Heroes-

1x Skink Priest @ 430 pts
Wizard Lvl 2, Lore of Heavens, Cube of Darkness, Ancient Stegadon with Engine of the Gods

1x Saurus Scar-Veteran @ 121 pts
Great Weapon, Gambler's Armor, Venom of the Firefly Frog

1x Saurus Scar-Veteran @ 96 pts
Great Weapon, Light Armor

1x Saurus Scar Veteran @ 96 pts
Great Weapon, Light Armor

Core-

30x Saurus Warriors @ 390 pts
Saurus Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Spears

30x Saurus Warriors @ 390 pts
Saurus Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Spears

13x Skink Skirmisher @ 91 pts

12x Skink Skirmisher @ 84 pts

Special-

6x Chameleon Skinks @ 72 pts

6x Chameleon Skinks @ 72 pts

6x Chameleon Skinks @ 72 pts

20x Temple Guard @ 420 pts
Musician, Standard Bearer, Burning Blade of Chotec, Razor Standard

Rare-

2x Salamander Hunting Pack @ 150 pts

2x Salamander Hunting Pack @ 150 pts

Total: 2999 pts
Lords: 365 pts (12.17%)
Heroes: 743 pts (24.77%)
Core: 955 pts (31.84%)
Special: 636 pts (21.21%)
Rare: 300 pts (10.00%)
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The battle plan is to have the Slann in the center of my battle line with the Temple Guard and 121pt Scar-Vet. On either side will be a large block of Saurus, each with one of the 96pt Scar-Vets attached for extra combat punch. Lore of Life will be buffing the Temple Guard, or whoever ends up in combat first. Chameleon Skinks can go after warmachines or mages out on their own. The larger Skink Skirmisher groups will head on the flanks picking at heavily armored united before drawing them into combat. Salamanders will be Salamanders, burning through saves left and right. Hopefully there will be some juicy targets for them to go after. The Ancient Stegadon might charge into a combat in the flanks if no Saurus are around, or just to swing things in my favor.

Terrenord
07-02-2013, 20:58
Take Lore of Metal and kick him where it hurts.

Dragon Prince of Caledor
08-02-2013, 15:38
I agree LOM is a lot of fun against Brettonia Lol