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Tyrech
21-02-2013, 21:55
Welcome everyone!

Having recently started to post my work online, which I have never previously practiced, -I was encouraged by "the damned artificer", through a Danish forum, -to try posting it here also. I have long been a lurker on the forums and have enjoyed immensely following the many wonderful threads here. Warseer has been a great source of inspiration for me and so I hope my work might be equally inspirational to others.

As the title suggest I am working on a Pre Heresy project, in particular the XVIII Salamanders Legion. Actual progress might be a bit slow, but I like to update frequently to show others the different stages I go through, before I reach the final "product". I have been working on my Salamanders for some months now, so you will be following my work from this stage and onward.

First up is my Contemptor Dreadnought which I have converted a bit. I decided I wanted something original in terms of armament, so I went with a scratchbuilt Heavy Flamer/Inferno Cannon/Flamestorm Cannon, and a DCCW mounted Meltagun. I am aware that there are no rules for these options in the Forge World Betrayal book, so no need to remind me of that ;)

Still WIP:
http://imageshack.us/a/img547/999/20130219003136.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img197/309/20130219003149.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img51/7990/20130219003200.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/8562/sl730842.jpg

Next up is my Legion Champion which has also been converted to some extent:
http://imageshack.us/a/img13/4408/sl731109.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img580/6835/sl731110.jpg

The first couple of standard Tactical Marines are now primed and ready for paint. My camera is out of the house unfortunately and I can't seem to find my phone. Pictures of marines tomorrow hopefully!

the damned artificer
21-02-2013, 23:10
Good to see you here as well buddy ;)

Captain Denarius
21-02-2013, 23:12
Consider me subscribed. You never read or see many Heresy Salamanders.

unwanted
22-02-2013, 00:38
Looks sharp, I'll definitely follow this.

Og velkommen ombord :D

Brother Garrod
22-02-2013, 00:43
that champion is exquisite

Darkritual
22-02-2013, 02:23
Welcome! Great start! ill be watching this also!

Gearhart
22-02-2013, 04:53
Any friend of "the damned artificer" is a friend of mine. ;) Welcome to the warseer family. Great work, this looks like its going to be a great source of inspiration! Looking forward to more. Certainly might have to steal a few of your conversion ideas, that is if it's ok with you? :)
Until next time, Sincerely Gearhart.

Tyrech
22-02-2013, 15:20
Thank you all very much. A heartwarming welcome indeed :)

@ Gearhart: By all means steal away, I have borrowed more than a few ideas of the forums. -It's all about sharing after all!

Update today will have to be postponed. Painting has commenced on the first Tactical Marines, but progress is slow as I am a bit rusty (it's been a couple of years since I last painted miniatures).

Apologist
22-02-2013, 15:35
Lovely and promising start – the conversions are very natural. I'm looking forward to seeing more.

shaw3029
22-02-2013, 16:13
Brilliant! Love the salamanders as a legion and you've made a great start.

The contemptors gun is phenomenal, really well done!

Love the legion champion. The pose is brilliant with his sword still in a dead marine. Very impressive.

Tyrech
26-02-2013, 20:44
@ Apologist & shaw3029:

Thank you very much. It is heartwarming indeed to be complimented by the talented users of the forums!

An update as promised.

I have today received my most recent order from Forge World:

http://imageshack.us/a/img822/9850/sl731128.jpg

1x Legion MKIII Iron Armour Space Marines.
1x Legion MKIII Heavy Support Squad.
1x Legion Multi Melta Set.
1x Legion MKII Command Upgrade.
2x Salamanders Marine Shoulder Pads.
1x Space Marine Bolters - Phobos Pattern (10).

The tactical marines are for a Tactical Support Squad I'm working on. A squad of Heavy Support Marines armed with Multi Meltas is a must for any Salamanders force. So even though I cherish the odd/"out-of-place" choices- in otherwise heavily themed forces, it seemed "wrong" to choose any other antitank armament over the Multi Melta in my opinion. My stock of Phobos Bolters and Salamanders Shoulder Pads was fast running out, so a batch of those was mandatory.

I have started work on the first Sergeant of my first Legion Tactical Squad (obviously still WIP):

http://imageshack.us/a/img824/198/sl731138.jpg

I like the idea of equipping my sergeants with standard marine weaponry, and then making them 'stand out' from the other marines through their iconic helmet crests, posing and subtle conversions (nothing particularly original here :p).

Primed marines ready for paint:

http://imageshack.us/a/img42/5012/sl731137.jpg

The first marine with actual green paint on it:

http://imageshack.us/a/img836/6641/sl731134.jpg

I intended to copy Forge World's way of painting their Salamanders, but the green I tested is quite different from theirs. I will still be using their techniques for metals, gold and weathering, as I believe their standard is something I can achieve satisfactorily. I am however very pleased with this colour and I have decided to use this over others. In my opinion this colour is perfect because it isn't a WWII style olive-green (wouldn't want it to look like camouflage now would we?), yet on the other hand it is also nothing like the Salamanders 40K era neon green.

Having chosen the most important colour for my Salamanders palette, I have started work on my Legion Champion:

http://imageshack.us/a/img41/1229/sl731140.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img94/5792/sl731142.jpg


'Till next time!

Jericho
26-02-2013, 21:23
Yeah go Salamanders :D I wish I didn't have a 40k Sallies army in the 3rd edition Snot Green color scheme, beause I think the new book will make me want to 30k them up. Ain't gonna happen tho, since I have XII and XVII legion projects already on the go :p

Warseer seems to be glitching out on me at the moment but from the pics I can get to load they look great.

Tyrech
26-02-2013, 22:13
Hehe, seems you have enough to work with at the moment then.

Just to clarify, I have no problems with the Salamanders 40K neon green, the colourscheme is perfectly varied and bright on the tabletop. My personal opinion- when it comes to 30K, is that the difference between pre- and post heresy legions (especially loyalists) needs to be very clear - the olive-green colour is the major difference between pre- and post heresy Salamanders, and that is why I feel it's important to get it right.

Does anyone else have problems with the pictures?

Mage
26-02-2013, 22:38
Hehe, seems you have enough to work with at the moment then.

Just to clarify, I have no problems with the Salamanders 40K neon green, the colourscheme is perfectly varied and bright on the tabletop. My personal opinion- when it comes to 30K, is that the difference between pre- and post heresy legions (especially loyalists) needs to be very clear - the olive-green colour is the major difference between pre- and post heresy Salamanders, and that is why I feel it's important to get it right.

Does anyone else have problems with the pictures?

I agree with this, that 30k Salamanders had a different green to the current one. No probs with the pics.

Inquisitor Engel
27-02-2013, 05:10
164948164949

An inspired conversion!

In the words of Sir Elton John, I hope you don't mind [if I steal that idea]!

Rusty Magos
27-02-2013, 05:44
Company champion looks fantastic! Can't wait to see him fully painted!

Tyrech
27-02-2013, 15:25
In the words of Sir Elton John, I hope you don't mind [if I steal that idea]!

You are very welcome to use anything you like. I wanted the look of a hunter posing with his kill, hence the boasting nature of his posture.


Company champion looks fantastic! Can't wait to see him fully painted!

That makes two of us ;) I plan on finishing him in the weekend - will be shopping some new paint for my Salamanders tomorrow. The Vallejo Model Air series is just a fantastic series of paints!

Gearhart
27-02-2013, 15:54
Wow, he looks great so far! I really like the green as well! Which green is that?

Tyrech
27-02-2013, 16:07
Wow, he looks great so far! I really like the green as well! Which green is that?

Thank you very much. Regarding the green colour, it's "Camouflage Light Green" from the Vallejo Model Air series.

Jericho
27-02-2013, 20:44
Looks very similar to a P3 color as well, Ordic Olive I think it's called. Just saying for those of us who don't like Vallejo ;)

Tyrech
27-02-2013, 22:49
Looks very similar to a P3 color as well, Ordic Olive I think it's called. Just saying for those of us who don't like Vallejo ;)

Cheers Jericho, I have also used P3 previously, which is certainly also a very decent range. I just used the Vallejo one in this case. I would expect GW has a colour that could work as well, but I am completely lost when it comes to GW's current paint range.

Tyrech
28-02-2013, 23:14
A few closeups of the Contemptor's Heavy Flamer arm, If anyone was considering doing something similar:

http://imageshack.us/a/img829/9962/20130219003257.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img811/4952/20130219003311.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/9885/20130219003320.jpg

I have also made a bit of progress on my space marine sergeant:

http://imageshack.us/a/img6/4933/sl731144.jpg

At the moment Im not 100 % satisfied with his right hand. It might be difficult to tell from the picture, but the size of the right hand (or wrist, still not sure) is a bit off.

Hopefully an update with finished miniatures after the weekend.

unwanted
01-03-2013, 00:43
Love the flamer/stormcanon. I think I see what you mean with the right hand, could it be that the wrist is too short compared to the normal models?

Tyrech
01-03-2013, 05:10
The wrist is from an unmodified Chaos Space Marine arm, I believe it looks short because of the angle of the picture. Well spotted though. I filed down the back of the hand, as it seemed too thick, and it looks slightly better. I might just increase the length of the wrist as well. If the problem keeps nagging at me I might just redo the whole hand :rolleyes:

Dorns_fist
01-03-2013, 16:37
Really nice models here fella, what undercoat do you use as it looks very grainy and textured? Not cussing your work btw it's just an undercoat method/paint I've never used or seen used

Rob

Jericho
01-03-2013, 17:11
If anything, the problem is the relative thickness of Mk3 arms vs. any other power armor arms in the range. They're like Popeye's forearms.


Really nice models here fella, what undercoat do you use as it looks very grainy and textured? Not cussing your work btw it's just an undercoat method/paint I've never used or seen used

Rob

A lot of folks use a black primer, dusted with grey or white from above. It can be considered a bit of an underpainting effect, but many just say it helps the paint stick slightly better and give hints at where hilights should fall on the model.

Tyrech
01-03-2013, 23:05
Jericho has it right regarding the priming method. I primarily use the technique to improve the coverage of brighter colours on the black undercoat. It also gives successive layers more depth and variety, making the base colouring more "interesting".

Regarding the sergeant's arm, I will definitely modify the wrist length-wise. Filing the back of the hand, made a significant difference though. I will post picts when I am satisfied with it.

Stay tuned.

tcraigen
02-03-2013, 04:23
Very cool work that flame cannon looks awesome.

Tyrech
02-03-2013, 16:51
Thanks! The design is obviously just a copy of the Tartaros Pattern Terminator Heavy Flamer, scaled up to a dreadnought-sized weapon instead. With the muzzle/dispenser taken from the turret of an Infernus pattern Predator. It did make it a lot easier when you didn't have to come up with a design yourself :p

rev
02-03-2013, 20:53
What a great eye for conversions you have!

the champ, sgt and flamer are all superb,

what are you using to prime, it looks v grainy.

rev

Demiurg
02-03-2013, 22:35
Love the idea of this consider me subscribed

Tyrech
03-03-2013, 02:43
Cheers for the comments guys!

@ rev: I use GW primers for my miniatures, so in this case Chaos Black and Skull White. I would think that the reason for it looking so grainy is the stark contrast between the black and the white colours. I use no particular technique for the priming method (but then again, there isn't much to it) so the results can vary a bit. The resulting surface quality of the undercoat is just as fine and non-grainy as expected with GW primers.

rev
03-03-2013, 14:13
Two primer coats?

DAGabriel
03-03-2013, 14:25
Two primer coats?

2k priming, first a coat of black, than skull white from above. If you paint thin enough it gives you some impression of zenithal lighting.

Nice beginning, love Salamanders since I have seen this Vulcan He`stan (http://chestofcolors.com/gallery/anas-works/warhammer-40000/miniature/image/forgefather-vulkan-hestan-of-salamanders-space-marines/).

Tyrech
03-03-2013, 21:36
Two primer coats?

The white is only dusted onto the actual black undercoat so its coverage is minimal.

Tyrech
05-03-2013, 01:17
Over the weekend, I managed to make some progress on my Legion Champion, which is now almost finished. After a few test minis I felt the basics were coming back to me and I went ahead with the Champion. Unfortunately I was forced to experiment extensively, and it became clear to me that I hadn't quite gotten the hang of my brushes after all. I currently consider using this model as a sort of test mini for my project:

Apologies for the bad lighting, I always end up taking pictures in the middle of the night :rolleyes:
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/1792/sl731150.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img208/972/sl731152.jpg

Let me know what you think.

Cheers,

Khorneguy
05-03-2013, 09:45
He looks fantastic!, could do with a little more shading on the green, but that might just be the poor lighting letting you down, this will look great over the entire army. Looking forward to seeing more :)

Apologist
05-03-2013, 15:34
Looking good – he's already got a strong presence, and the colour scheme is lovely. The gold goes really nicely with the green, and helps add interest to an otherwise fairly muted scheme. The jade lizard skin is striking and makes a nice point to draw the eye to the face. If you don't mind a minor criticism, I think the brown weathering is a bit too close in tone to the background green. You could add some fine highlights in a lighter version of the base green at the bottom of the larger patches of weathering; or pick out some light grey touches to represent deeper marks and gouges. Either would help identify the battle damage as more obvious.

I like the skintone. I've always wavered between Salamanders being night-black and African-black (my personal theory is that the inhabitants of Nocturne have African-like skintones, but that the surface is so bombarded with radiation that Salamanders develop night-black skin as a measure of protection while on the surface. When off it, the melanchrome ticks down and they return to their natural skintone. That gives a nice reason to have either – or both – appearances in the army).

I'd like to see some subtle touches of red (on the cheeks and lower lip) and yellow (across the t-zone and cheeks) in the skin, just to add a bit more of a natural appearance, but he's already looking great.

Those are both very minor comments – he's got a really striking pose that's set off by a lovely, well-applied paint scheme and he generally looks the business. Two mechadendrites up from me :)

Jericho
05-03-2013, 15:55
Very solid paintjob, these guys are gonna look so good. Any chance of flame freehand on them, even just characters/sergeants? That black kneepad is begging for it ;)

Tyrech
05-03-2013, 17:35
He looks fantastic!, could do with a little more shading on the green, but that might just be the poor lighting letting you down, this will look great over the entire army. Looking forward to seeing more :)

Thank you! I did consider ways to make the base green more interesting, but at the moment I am still a bit of a rookie in terms of painting, so I decided to go with something I felt more confident with, leaving it at "satisfactory" for now.


Looking good he's already got a strong presence, and the colour scheme is lovely. The gold goes really nicely with the green, and helps add interest to an otherwise fairly muted scheme. The jade lizard skin is striking and makes a nice point to draw the eye to the face. If you don't mind a minor criticism, I think the brown weathering is a bit too close in tone to the background green. You could add some fine highlights in a lighter version of the base green at the bottom of the larger patches of weathering; or pick out some light grey touches to represent deeper marks and gouges. Either would help identify the battle damage as more obvious.

I like the skintone. I've always wavered between Salamanders being night-black and African-black (my personal theory is that the inhabitants of Nocturne have African-like skintones, but that the surface is so bombarded with radiation that Salamanders develop night-black skin as a measure of protection while on the surface. When off it, the melanchrome ticks down and they return to their natural skintone. That gives a nice reason to have either or both appearances in the army).

I'd like to see some subtle touches of red (on the cheeks and lower lip) and yellow (across the t-zone and cheeks) in the skin, just to add a bit more of a natural appearance, but he's already looking great.

Those are both very minor comments he's got a really striking pose that's set off by a lovely, well-applied paint scheme and he generally looks the business. Two mechadendrites up from me :)

I have no trouble with criticism at all. Just as I hope this project will inspire others as I have been, I also hope to become a more accomplished converter and painter myself. Inputs and opinions (of any kind) on my work is very much appreciated, so fire away. You are one of several who have pointed out that the weathering drowns a bit in the green armour. Others have suggested- as you have, that highlights around the chipping might be the way to go, I will be testing this as soon as possible.

Regarding the skin tones: I have decided to go with a very dark brown skin colour, simply because I think that 'jet-black' would be a bit extreme. With me going with this very dark colour, do you think that these hints of red and yellow that you suggest would be visible? I might have misunderstood what you meant :p I have limited knowledge when it comes to painting skin, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Very solid paintjob, these guys are gonna look so good. Any chance of flame freehand on them, even just characters/sergeants? That black kneepad is begging for it ;)

I still haven't dared going into freehand yet, but I will definitely be using freehand fire on my Salamanders. It wont be long until I'm forced to make a go at it, my Dreadnought is almost ready for paint.

Tyrech
09-03-2013, 17:34
More progress on the Legion Champion:

http://imageshack.us/a/img109/829/sl731158.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img51/6515/sl731160.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img692/9976/sl731162.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img41/7312/sl731165.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img24/3560/sl731166.jpg

Based on various inputs from people I have been correcting errors and making some improvements (hopefully). The black/gold border on the back of his right shoulder pad has been tidied up. Metal gouges have been added to the chipping (some more successful than others), which is the way I have decided to go, when it comes to brightening up the armour. I have highlighted his face a bit, painted the studs on his forehead and given him a pair of white eyes with red pupils (there is room for improvement- on future models, here also). The skull and Lizard skin has also been highlighted further.

Also a picture of the sergeant's hand from a different angle, this is to try and illustrate what I wrote earlier about the hand being large:

http://imageshack.us/a/img255/4657/sl731155.jpg

Let me know what you think!

Brother Garrod
10-03-2013, 00:20
I really like your take on the red eyes salamanders are now ret-conned to have , makes more sense for red pupils instead of the glowing red demon eyes workshop likes to describe them as

Darkritual
10-03-2013, 14:39
Nice work on the painting! And indeed nice idea to make the eyes red!

TabulaRasa
10-03-2013, 16:08
Love your conversion! You got a good overall paint scheme going there but I would suggest a bit more edge highlights - but that's a matter of taste.

ColdWinter
10-03-2013, 21:55
Wow very nice Salamanders, and I love the conversion mate!

Tyrech
10-03-2013, 23:56
Thank you for the kind words gentlemen. I also prefer the idea of using red pupils instead of whole red eyes, seems a lot more realistic in my opinion.


Love your conversion! You got a good overall paint scheme going there but I would suggest a bit more edge highlights - but that's a matter of taste.

I have considered doing something more with the green armour. I'm trying to keep the general scheme quite simple however, to avoid overstretching my painting capabilities. A few highlights shouldn't be a problem though, I just like to keep things simple, especially when it works quite well as it is. I will be testing this on some Tactical Marines I'll be doing next.

The Hairy Painter
11-03-2013, 00:02
Great to see another Pre Heresy Salamander army been done, i think there is only you and my self doing them *chuckle*

Great stuff by the way love the conversions, cants wait to see more of your stuff done.

Hairy

Tyrech
11-03-2013, 03:10
Great to see another Pre Heresy Salamander army been done, i think there is only you and my self doing them *chuckle*

Great stuff by the way love the conversions, cants wait to see more of your stuff done.

Hairy

Thank you very much 'Hairy'. I did come across your Pre Heresy Salamanders previously, excellent stuff that is, truly. We may have gone slightly different routes with the green, but yours is superbly executed, very clean and crisp. Did you get your transfers from GW when they were available?

I believe there's a blogger primarily on YouTube called "Chuffy1976" who's also doing the XVIII legion. If you haven't already, you should check his stuff out. He does some nice reviews of products and has a rather large collection of Salamanders. But yeah, we seem to be rather few in number, at least 30K-wise :p

Rhaivaen
11-03-2013, 03:30
5 Stars added for your effort, neat! :)

Tyrech
11-03-2013, 17:03
5 Stars added for your effort, neat! :)

That is very generous of you, thanks a lot! :)

Dorns_fist
11-03-2013, 17:12
That's a lovely green, well done indeed, and what a great pose for a champion.

I do seconded the extra high light on the edges.

5* from me fella

Rob

unwanted
11-03-2013, 23:45
Looking outstanding, that's one of my favourite takes on Sallies so far.

TabulaRasa
12-03-2013, 00:16
I have considered doing something more with the green armour. I'm trying to keep the general scheme quite simple however, to avoid overstretching my painting capabilities. A few highlights shouldn't be a problem though, I just like to keep things simple, especially when it works quite well as it is. I will be testing this on some Tactical Marines I'll be doing next.

Good luck and looking forward to seeing your progress!

The Hairy Painter
12-03-2013, 00:18
Thank you very much 'Hairy'. I did come across your Pre Heresy Salamanders previously, excellent stuff that is, truly. We may have gone slightly different routes with the green, but yours is superbly executed, very clean and crisp. Did you get your transfers from GW when they were available?

I believe there's a blogger primarily on YouTube called "Chuffy1976" who's also doing the XVIII legion. If you haven't already, you should check his stuff out. He does some nice reviews of products and has a rather large collection of Salamanders. But yeah, we seem to be rather few in number, at least 30K-wise :p

no my transfers are just a stock pile of 15 years of collecting space marines lol

Hairy

Tyrech
12-03-2013, 00:51
That's a lovely green, well done indeed, and what a great pose for a champion.

I do seconded the extra high light on the edges.

5* from me fella

Rob

Cheers! -stay tuned for those Tactical Marines, I will be experimenting at bit- with more highlights, on them.


Looking outstanding, that's one of my favourite takes on Sallies so far.

Thanks mate, glad to hear I'm not completely lost doing the XVIII legion some justice :p


Good luck and looking forward to seeing your progress!

That makes two of us ;)


no my transfers are just a stock pile of 15 years of collecting space marines lol

Hairy

I had completely forgotten that there was Salamanders transfers on those old Marine sheets. I shall have to dig mine out, no telling when a Salamanders transfer might come in handy! Cheers!

DeathCat147
12-03-2013, 16:44
Excellent work on the legion champion. The green you've chosen works really well. Another 5 stars for this plog, and you can consider me subscribed :)

Tyrech
14-03-2013, 00:42
Excellent work on the legion champion. The green you've chosen works really well. Another 5 stars for this plog, and you can consider me subscribed :)

Sounds great! Much appreciated :)



I finally received my Land Raider Proteus, and what a lovely kit it is. Miscasts and warps in the resin were minimal. I can't wait to start putting it together!:

http://imageshack.us/a/img138/4170/sl731173.jpg

Details added to the Tactical Sergeant, namely the "Oath of Moment" seal, a few pouches and a holstered bolt pistol. The sergeant is now ready to be primed and painted:

http://imageshack.us/a/img4/7140/sl731174j.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img715/9568/sl731175.jpg

I have also started to put a Marine together with a Nuncio Vox array (still needs a good amount of work obviously):

http://imageshack.us/a/img845/5740/sl731180.jpg

Cheers,

the damned artificer
14-03-2013, 01:48
Excellent update, I really love how much energy you put into each miniature :D And of all the Danes I've corrupted, your work is by far my favourite ;D Hehe

Remember to share this update over at PF as well, and I've been told to recruit you to this pre-heresy forum as well The First Expedition (http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_First_Expedition/index.php?showforum=7) so go go go :chrome: :chrome:

Tyrech
14-03-2013, 02:35
Excellent update, I really love how much energy you put into each miniature :D And of all the Danes I've corrupted, your work is by far my favourite ;D Hehe

Remember to share this update over at PF as well, and I've been told to recruit you to this pre-heresy forum as well The First Expedition (http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_First_Expedition/index.php?showforum=7) so go go go :chrome: :chrome:

Hah, yeah with all the 30K-corruption going on by your hand TDA, it's a wonder we haven't all picked "traitor legions" :D

But cheers buddy, feels good to be complimented by someone as accomplished as you are, means a lot :) It is of course difficult to compare people's work, with so many different styles of putting miniatures together- let alone painting them, but I'm glad I haven't failed you miserably ;)

That First Expedition forum looks awesome, thank you for the reference. I got some time tomorrow where I can look into starting a thread there also!

the damned artificer
14-03-2013, 03:28
Hah, yeah with all the 30K-corruption going on by your hand TDA, it's a wonder we haven't all picked "traitor legions" :D

But cheers buddy, feels good to be complimented by someone as accomplished as you are, means a lot :) It is of course difficult to compare people's work, with so many different styles of putting miniatures together- let alone painting them, but I'm glad I haven't failed you miserably ;)

That First Expedition forum looks awesome, thank you for the reference. I got some time tomorrow where I can look into starting a thread there also!

Corruption is my middle name ;)

And you just keep at it and I'll stay happy ;)

WOOOOOOHH :D :D, I'm sure you'll be popular on there as well, I pointed one of the moderators, Ben (Hyperion), in your direction as he's also doing sallies, and he practically made me recruit you to the forum as he was very impressed with your work :D

shaw3029
14-03-2013, 09:24
Great looking stuff. Your putting a lot of work into the smaller ndividuals and that is great. The sgt is very well posed.

Looking forward to seeing the proteus all painted up.

Munday
14-03-2013, 10:00
Been lurking for a while and thought it was time to say hi!

I love the champion conversion, its come as such a natural pose and seems suitably arrogant for a legion champion. How did you get the body off the rocky outcrop? Was it just real careful work with a sharp knife?

D

Tyrech
14-03-2013, 16:49
Corruption is my middle name ;)

And you just keep at it and I'll stay happy ;)

WOOOOOOHH :D :D, I'm sure you'll be popular on there as well, I pointed one of the moderators, Ben (Hyperion), in your direction as he's also doing sallies, and he practically made me recruit you to the forum as he was very impressed with your work :D

Well no worries there. I will continue working on this project for as long as Forge World produces miniatures for it hopefully ;)

It is fantastic that you've found another 30K Salamanders enthusiast. It's great to see how others are tackling the legion and compare different people's takes on miniatures. I will be searching for his project thread as soon as possible!


Great looking stuff. Your putting a lot of work into the smaller individuals and that is great. The sgt is very well posed.

Looking forward to seeing the proteus all painted up.

It is very time consuming, but I hope it will be worth it in the end. Being picky with details, I do some times end up redoing or even discarding miniatures I'm unsatisfied with. This means that I spend a lot of time and money on something that might not make the cut eventually.


Been lurking for a while and thought it was time to say hi!

I love the champion conversion, its come as such a natural pose and seems suitably arrogant for a legion champion. How did you get the body off the rocky outcrop? Was it just real careful work with a sharp knife?

D

Glad you like it mate :) -and yes, you have it right regarding the removal of the champion from the outcrop. Careful cutting with a saw and a sharp knife, followed by the mandatory trimming/tidying of the feet.

Tyrech
10-05-2013, 01:15
I promised that I would be updating my slowly progressing Salamanders project frequently, so people could follow my work every step of the way. I failed to take into account that I might get distracted and occasionally take a minor break from whatever project I am working on.

I ended up working a bit on a couple of Guard projects I have been running for some years now. I dare say I'm back in the pre heresy mood and so I've ordered some Forgeworld "Deimos Pattern Predator Infernus" tanks (I need a couple more of the turret Flamestorm Cannons).

First of all I have finished my Marine with Nuncio Vox array. Mainly adding shoulder pads and sculpting various joints in his armour:

https://imageshack.us/a/img542/6307/sl731243.jpg

Work on my Land Raider Proteus commenced some time ago, but I was quite surprised by the amount of work I had to put into the kit, just to get to where I am now. The tracks in particular where a real pain, and there is still a great deal of sculpting work to do before they are done. I was forced to remove a track link in both sides and rebuild some of the track "hinges". Still WIP:

https://imageshack.us/a/img543/4232/sl731210p.jpg
https://imageshack.us/a/img560/7322/sl731212.jpg
https://imageshack.us/a/img4/4031/sl731213n.jpg

Finally I've started work on a character. Based on one of the "Masters of the Chapter" miniatures from GW, I removed most of the "features" of his MK VI/VII armour and replaced it with MK III/IV parts. Lots of work still to do obviously:

https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/10/sl731228.jpg

Until next time.

Bigglesworth
10-05-2013, 08:28
Great work, I assume you changed the Vox marines antenna since the resin ones would have snapped like dry spaghetti?

Must be a pain those proteus tracks, it could just be a trick of the camera, but your replacement links look a tiny bit bigger than the standard ones, though I imagine they are a non metric size so getting a perfect fit using pipes and rods would be tricky. Will be building my first forge world tank kit, the "Destroyer Tank hunter" soon. I imagine I am going to have loads of wonderful problems to resolve :D

Good work on the master of the chapter, you always see interesting conversions using him.


Keep up the good work!

SacredBoltgun
10-05-2013, 12:57
absolutely stunning work so far! Great paintjob and conversions. Keep it up, i realy enjoy your Legio XVIII forces...

When my Ecs are done i have to visit you and TDA for a HH Era Battle :)

Tyrech
10-05-2013, 15:03
Great work, I assume you changed the Vox marines antenna since the resin ones would have snapped like dry spaghetti?

Must be a pain those proteus tracks, it could just be a trick of the camera, but your replacement links look a tiny bit bigger than the standard ones, though I imagine they are a non metric size so getting a perfect fit using pipes and rods would be tricky. Will be building my first forge world tank kit, the "Destroyer Tank hunter" soon. I imagine I am going to have loads of wonderful problems to resolve :D

Good work on the master of the chapter, you always see interesting conversions using him.

Keep up the good work!

Thanks a lot! Regarding the antenna: it was replaced as I feared that the standard resin one would snap. I wasn't going to take any chances with such an expensive miniature.

The converted track hinges are indeed marginally bigger than the resin ones. I hope to camouflage the size difference with weathering (mud/grime or some such), or draw the focus off the highly monotonous tracks with something else entirely ;)


absolutely stunning work so far! Great paintjob and conversions. Keep it up, i realy enjoy your Legio XVIII forces...

When my Ecs are done i have to visit you and TDA for a HH Era Battle :)

Thank you very much! :)

Would be great to see some fellow Pre Heresy enthusiasts' work up close! I have to say though, that with my painting progress being quite slow, it would be a while before I would have anything finished to display :p -Would be a great motivator though, to get some miniatures finished.

Tyrech
22-05-2013, 17:18
Time for another update.

I've gotten a bit more work done on my most recent character miniature. He will probably count as a Legion Praetor with a Paragon Blade and a standard Bolt Pistol:

https://imageshack.us/a/img18/9486/sl731237.jpg
https://imageshack.us/a/img89/1575/sl731238.jpg
https://imageshack.us/a/img835/7664/sl731239.jpg
https://imageshack.us/a/img593/7028/sl731240.jpg

Nothing much to say, I think he's progressing nicely. Some sculpting work still to do, but overall he's getting there.

Cheers,

BeatTheBeat
22-05-2013, 22:18
Great looking army. Slowly by slowly logs like this one is making Salamanders perhaps my favourite loyalist Legion. Keep it up, looking forward to seeing more painted stuff!

Cheers,
BTB

Bigglesworth
22-05-2013, 22:30
Looking great, going to be a great leader for your force.

Tyrech
23-05-2013, 21:00
Thanks guys! Painting will commence as soon as I'm done with this year's finals :rolleyes:

intercepta
23-05-2013, 21:47
I love kit bashing but what some of you guys do to kits is incredible! looking forward to seeing some paint!

Jericho
24-05-2013, 22:18
Hurry up and drop out to pursue full-time painting of Salamanders. It's definitely a worthy cause.

Seriously though, you are making me way too excited for the upcoming Salamanders rules/minis when I have a million other things I should be working on first. The Praetor is gonna look totally badass.

Tyrech
25-05-2013, 16:31
I love kit bashing but what some of you guys do to kits is incredible! looking forward to seeing some paint!

Thank you very much mate. Kit bashing is indeed an excellent (and expensive) way of creating more unique miniatures.


Hurry up and drop out to pursue full-time painting of Salamanders. It's definitely a worthy cause.

Seriously though, you are making me way too excited for the upcoming Salamanders rules/minis when I have a million other things I should be working on first. The Praetor is gonna look totally badass.

Glad you like the Legion Praetor!

I sopose it would be a strange time to drop out in the middle of the finals hah. Especially now that I have more spare time on my hands than I've had all year ;)

I am also bursting with excitement over the FW Massacre part one book. I'm especially looking forward to see how they'll do the Salamanders' Pyre Guard. Fingers crossed they won't be clad in Terminator Armour.

Regarding the million other things you feel you'd have to finish before you could embark on a 30K Salamanders force. The rest of us are just a bogged down in unfinished projects as you are mate. I have found that it is quite healthy to have several projects on one's hands for you to switch between. This prevents you getting bored with working on just one project at a time (just stating the obvious here :rolleyes:).

intercepta
26-05-2013, 10:04
Good things come to those who wait and 'it's ready when its ready' so dw despite our hurry up we can/should wait :)

On that note hurry up and get painting!! :p

Tyrech
19-06-2013, 01:06
It has been way too long since I last updated this thread.

I have been busy with my finals (as mentioned earlier in this thread), but now that they are almost over, I think its time to get some more work done on my Salamanders.

Since my last update I have made significant progress on painting my Contemptor Dreadnought. The process of painting a larger miniature has taken up a lot more time than I had anticipated, especially the larger areas of green and metal have been a bit taxing. That being said, seeing the miniature take shape is always rewarding, and ultimately makes the effort worthwhile - its been a while since I last painted miniatures, let alone big ones, so bear with me. So far I'm very satisfied with the result, but there's still a few things left to do before its finished.

On to the pictures:

http://imageshack.us/a/img844/2324/1fla.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img829/6859/8e39.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img708/8837/cei1.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/8831/caq4.jpg

I am not sure if I've weathered it a bit too heavily, I might just wash the metal chipping a bit more to make it more subtle.

What do you think of it so far?

Laborious
19-06-2013, 11:13
Excellent! Love the brazier on his chest, really well done. Think the chipping looks good, actually. Maybe a little light glazing to dull it down in areas and add a little variation in age to the weathering. But that's it. Nice work. :)

claudiomarino
19-06-2013, 15:36
Fantastic conversions mate! I think the weathering amount is spot on! But on the other hand I love that heavy worn look.

Tyrech
19-06-2013, 22:46
Excellent! Love the brazier on his chest, really well done. Think the chipping looks good, actually. Maybe a little light glazing to dull it down in areas and add a little variation in age to the weathering. But that's it. Nice work. :)

Glad you like the brazier. This was my first attempt at painting more realistic flames, and I am very satisfied with the result. I have previously been a bit skeptical with this technique, mainly because the process of painting is rather "misleading" - meaning it looks nothing like real flames until its 100% finished.

You got a point regarding variation in the chipping. It is a bit monotonous at the moment, so a little variation might just do the trick, cheers :)


Fantastic conversions mate! I think the weathering amount is spot on! But on the other hand I love that heavy worn look.

Thanks mate, it was certainly a joy to build and paint, despite it taking longer than expected!

I've gotten some feedback, on the weathering, from a couple of other places also, and generally people seem to agree with both of you guys (that the weathering is fine as it is now). I like the idea of adding variation to the weathering, it won't take too much effort, and it will add a bit more depth to the mini.

Thank you for the feedback!

Tyrech
29-10-2013, 22:33
Okay, its been way too long since I've last made some progress on this project.

First of all I have been very busy with studying over the summer, having started a new education. Then there's a bunch of other miniatures projects that I have been working on (the limited time available, shows in the effort I have been able to put into them).

I have however managed to finish my Contemptor Dreadnought, finally, with finishing touches to the eyes, gold, weathering and basing:
http://imageshack.com/a/img28/6307/7izb.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img5/4407/dj1x.jpg

Hopefully we will see some Salamanders from Forge World soon enough, with the other legions already having received some love (I'm still forced to make my own shoulder pads! :rolleyes:).

With Forge World products comes motivation, -fingers crossed.

Thanks,

Laborious
29-10-2013, 23:06
Welcome back! The contemptor is looking great now he's finished, and I'm glad you weathered the weathering, looks much nicer now it's been dulled down a bit in places to give some variation in the age of the chips. :)

Tyrech
29-10-2013, 23:43
Thanks man, good to be back. Glad you like the weathering, especially the metal chips were a bit sloppy in some areas, I tried to correct that as best I could.

Will be getting on with those tacticals I started way back!

unwanted
30-10-2013, 00:35
Oh, hi, I had wondered what'd happened to these...

Contemptor ended up looking fantastic!

Asdrubael108
31-01-2014, 17:09
Looking great mate, would love to see more!:D

Tyrech
01-02-2014, 17:12
Thank you very much. I have actually done some more painting on the first tacticals. I was unfortunate to get one of the old pots of VMA Gold, the ones that are more silver than gold. I am now trying to get hold of one of the new pots that are actually gold coloured, but my local paint store is only stocking the old pots (not willing to pay shipping for a single pot of paint).

Also looking forward to getting some more work done on my Proteus, but I need to get on with the tacticals first.

Stay tuned :)

Asdrubael108
01-02-2014, 21:35
Thank you very much. I have actually done some more painting on the first tacticals. I was unfortunate to get one of the old pots of VMA Gold, the ones that are more silver than gold. I am now trying to get hold of one of the new pots that are actually gold coloured, but my local paint store is only stocking the old pots (not willing to pay shipping for a single pot of paint).


That really sucks... Good luck with finding more of those gold pots. Maybe you can get some via Ebay or so???

LordKhaine
02-02-2014, 20:58
after not long finishing vulkan lives, I can honestly say you have caught the very aspect of everything I imagined the salamaders would look like! well done and I will be keeping a sharp eye on this to see more beautys appear!!!


LordKhaine

Tyrech
02-02-2014, 21:27
That really sucks... Good luck with finding more of those gold pots. Maybe you can get some via Ebay or so???

Yeah, I'm not sure if I was just unlucky and got one from a bad batch, since some of my friends recently bought the same paint which were a lot better than the one I've got :wtf:

I have now ordered the P3 Solid Gold colour, mainly as I'm still exploring the P3 range (with great experiences so far). Should arrive in a couple of days, so I might just do some more work on my Proteus while I wait.


after not long finishing vulkan lives, I can honestly say you have caught the very aspect of everything I imagined the salamaders would look like! well done and I will be keeping a sharp eye on this to see more beautys appear!!!


LordKhaine

Glad to hear it mate! I finished the Scorched Earth novel a couple of months ago, and as that was more of a the feel of Isstvan V kind of setting, there really wasn't a whole lot of Salamanders stuff to use. "Promethean Sun" was quite good, although still a bit lacking in the visual aspects of Salamander fluff, therefore naturally I can't wait to get on with "Vulkan Lives".

But I'm glad to hear that I've captured some aspects of the legion satisfactorily. I Shall have to crack on with them, now that people's interest has been rekindled ;)

Tyrech
11-02-2014, 16:57
Just to prove to you that I have actually made a bit of progress with those Tacticals I mentioned (until I ran into problems with VMA Gold), here's another short update in between the Warmachine I have now also succumbed to.

First of all, I have placed another order at Forge World:

1x MKII Space Marine Assault Squad.
1x Volkite Charger Set.
1x Salamanders Legion MKII Shoulder Pads.
1x Salamanders Legion MKIII Shoulder Pads.

Note that I ordered the first sculpt of the MKII Assault Marines, not the "Legion" version (with more leg poses and helmet designs). I really wanted a Tactical Support Squad with Volkite weaponry. But as the Volkite Calivers are way too long and unbalanced for my taste I decided to use Volkite Chargers instead (will still count as calivers rule-wise). That meant getting some Volkite Chargers and some more marines and as I liked the older MKII scult I decided to order some of them in case they went out of production at some point. The plan is to mix the legs from the normal MKII marines (also the old sculpt) and the assault ones, that way I get a lot of variety. Shoulder pads were a must as it is very time consuming to make them myself.

So onto the (partially-)painted stuff, PIP gold (VMC Old Gold) on the tacticals:

http://i.imgur.com/KsVmny7.jpg

Obviously I'm a sloppy painter, but I prefer to mess things up as I go along and then fix everything up nice tidy as they near completion.

Lastly I was unhappy with the base on my Contemptor. Too much drybrushing wth very wet paint made it a complete mess. Subsequently I tried to fix the problem with wash which only made it worse. So it was redone with a lighter and drier drybrush while picking out the few details a bit more as well:

http://i.imgur.com/RAgcJgu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ErZwaDR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sZSrme1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OEpGU4B.jpg

Apart from a coat of varnish I now consider this model 100 % finished!

I have included a couple of closeups of the painted flamer conversion:

http://i.imgur.com/meQ0tca.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nizvyox.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QEDmniK.jpg

Apologies for the dark pictures, I always end up taking my pictures at night :rolleyes:

Thanks for watching.

Red Scorpion
12-02-2014, 12:02
Lovely work on these :) The dread base looks loads better!

Kjeld
13-02-2014, 20:02
Lovely minis, the ylook great. What green do you use?