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Bladelord
30-04-2013, 10:47
I tried making an armylist based on the knowledge we have on the new book.

Lords:
(High Magic) Archmage, lvl.4 Wizard, Book of Hoeth, Golden Crown of Atrazar, Khaine's Ring of Fury.
350pts.
Total: 350pts.

Heroes:
Sea Helm, BSB, Reaver Bow, Shield of the Merwyrm, Dragonbane Gem, Ironcurse Icon.
155pts.
Total: 155pts.

Core Units:
15 Archers, Musician, Standard Bearer, Banner of the Eternal Flame.
195pts.
15 Archers, Musician.
175pts.
15 Archers, Musician.
175pts.
5 Ellyrian Reavers, Musician.
95pts.
Total: 640pts.

Special Units:
9 White Lions of Chrace.
135pts.
9 White Lions of Chrace.
135pts.
9 White Lions of Chrace.
135pts.
Tiranoc Chariot.
85pts.
6 Dragon Princes of Caledor, Standard Bearer, Musician, Banner of Swiftness.
215pts.
Total: 705pts.

Rare Units:
Flamespyre Phoenix.
225pts.
Repeater Bolt Thrower.
70pts.
Repeater Bolt Thrower.
70pts.
Repeater Bolt Thrower.
70pts.
Repeater Bolt Thrower.
70pts.
Great Eagle.
50pts.
Great Eagle.
50pts.
Total: 605pts.


Total: 2455pts.

45pts to go!

Time of Madness
30-04-2013, 13:29
Booo to MSU

In all seriousness I'd combine the white lions and make them 38 strong with full command and banner of the world dragon. Place both your bsb/archmage in this unit and run them 10 wide for 40+ attacks.

I'd drop a unit of archers (2 units of 15 is enough) and pick up another unit of reavers. If you are low on points I'd drop a single prince or the chariot. 1 chariot won't do a whole lot.

Time of Madness

Bladelord
30-04-2013, 14:07
Booo to MSU

In all seriousness I'd combine the white lions and make them 38 strong with full command and banner of the world dragon. Place both your bsb/archmage in this unit and run them 10 wide for 40+ attacks.

I'd drop a unit of archers (2 units of 15 is enough) and pick up another unit of reavers. If you are low on points I'd drop a single prince or the chariot. 1 chariot won't do a whole lot.

Time of Madness

Thanks for the reply Time of Madness, here are my thoughts on what you said:

I'm trying to become a better player when it comes to using tactics and strategies, and MSU feels like the way to go:) not alot of room for errors compared to a big bad block of Doom! Making 1 horde of WLs might be the best way to go but it's not as manouvrable as alot of MSU units so I'll keep the minimal units, because I'm so bad in the movement phase and I really want to improve that.
One of my main opponents are playing Doc so I'll skip Banner of the World Dragon alltogether, I do want both of us to enjoy the game;)

My first setup of core was 2 Archer units and 2 units of Ellyrian Reavers, I'll reconsider that again.

I disagree about the lone chariot, my solo Tiranoc have always been consistent and I'd actually want to squeeze in a 2nd one. M9 swiftstride gives it a big area where it can threat.

EDIT: I made some slight changes.

Lords:
(High Magic) Archmage, lvl.4 Wizard, Book of Hoeth, Golden Crown of Atrazar, Khaine's Ring of Fury.
350pts.
Total: 350pts.

Heroes:
Sea Helm, BSB, Reaver Bow, Shield of the Merwyrm, Ironcurse Icon, Dragonbane Gem.
155pts.
Total: 155pts.

Core Units:
21 Archers, Musician, Standard Bearer, Banner of the Eternal Flame.
261pts.
15 Archers, Musician.
175pts.
5 Ellyrian Reavers, Musician.
95pts.
5 Ellyrian Reavers, Musician.
95pts.
Total: 626pts.

Special Units:
9 White Lions of Chrace.
135pts.
9 White Lions of Chrace.
135pts.
9 White Lions of Chrace.
135pts.
Tiranoc Chariot.
85pts.
Tiranoc Chariot.
85pts.
6 Dragon Princes of Caledor, Standard Bearer, Musician, Gleaming Pennant.
205pts.
Total: 780pts.

Rare Units:
Flamespyre Phoenix.
225pts.
Repeater Bolt Thrower.
70pts.
Repeater Bolt Thrower.
70pts.
Repeater Bolt Thrower.
70pts.
Repeater Bolt Thrower.
70pts.
Great Eagle.
50pts.
Great Eagle.
50pts.
Total: 605pts.


Total: 2516pts.

Biggest changes was Core Units, Banner of Swiftness->Gleaming Pennant and squeezing in a 2nd chariot. Not exactly 2500pts but then again I do believe Tiranocii and/or White Lions will go down in pts cost.

Greatwhitenorth
30-04-2013, 15:59
Just a thought, I know nothing about Elves in warhammer but units of 10 White Lions give you the Disruption chance on a flank or rear charge, but if you lose 1 you are back to 9. Just a thought I had looking at your list and wondering *man I would love to play any kind of elf army for once*

Juicy21
30-04-2013, 20:42
+10000 kudos for not including the BOTWD!

i love your MSU styl.. My regular darkelf oppenent plays with units of 6 3x3 exequctioners corsairs cold ones etc etc he field in 2k 16 units of 3x3:P pretty funny i got massacred last game..
cant find the battle report but he posted it at the dark elf forums.

Bladelord
30-04-2013, 21:08
I like the idea Greatwhitenorth about disruption but then I'd probably need more models because if I lose 1 I won't be able to disrupt anymore and then I could've just gone for 9 anyway. When I finally have the book I'll try it out though, maybe cut a DP if needed.

That army sounds like a dream to me Juicy, would love to read that battle report:D

thrawn
01-05-2013, 11:14
i'm not opposed to MSU, but not sure how you're going to deal with shooty armies. my chaos dwarfs will have a field day with your army.

to be honest though, I can't really think of a way to improve it, as far as MSU armies go it's a good one!

Bladelord
01-05-2013, 15:06
Shooty armies comped by sweidhs standards will be doable I believe. I did it with MSU SMs in the last book and they can take less damage than White Lions.

Bladelord
01-05-2013, 23:30
Okay so after lurking on the internet I found a list on pts costs and I believe they're correct. Here goes:)

Lords:
(High Magic) Archmage, lvl.4 Wizard, Book of Hoeth, Golden Crown of Atrazar, Khaine's Ring of Fury.
310pts.
Total: 310pts.

Heroes:
Noble, BSB, heavy armour, Reaver Bow, Shield of the Merwyrm, Dragonbane Gem.
139pts.
Total: 139pts.

Core Units:
21 Archers, Musician.
220pts.
21 Archers, Musician.
220pts.
5 Ellyrian Reavers, bows, Musician.
95pts.
5 Ellyrian Reavers, spears, Musician.
90pts.
Total: 625pts.

Special Units:
9 White Lions of Chrace.
117pts.
9 White Lions of Chrace.
117pts.
9 White Lions of Chrace.
117pts.
Tiranoc Chariot.
70pts.
Tiranoc Chariot.
70pts.
6 Dragon Princes of Caledor, Standard Bearer.
184pts.
5 Dragon Princes of Caledor.
145pts.
Total: 820pts.

Rare Units:
Flamespyre Phoenix.
225pts.
Repeater Bolt Thrower.
70pts.
Repeater Bolt Thrower.
70pts.
Repeater Bolt Thrower.
70pts.
Repeater Bolt Thrower.
70pts.
Great Eagle.
50pts.
Great Eagle.
50pts.
Total: 605pts.


Total: 2499pts.

Jack Champion
06-05-2013, 08:08
I reckon a mixed approach works best with high elves, have some MSU units anchored around a larger block (we're not talking horde something like 20) with a BSB can work really well. I personally would drop the Archers down to 15 each which gives you 120pts to flesh out some White Lions. You have four repeater bolt throwers so I don't think you will miss those shots.

Jack Champion
06-05-2013, 08:09
EDIT: forgive the double post.

Bladelord
06-05-2013, 08:55
Well I do need the 625pts for core so can't replace them with WLs. If I need a tool to break Steadfast I already have my 20 elf strong units... Archers;)

Leonathion
06-05-2013, 12:10
I love your rare setup. I think I'll copy it right off :D