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effbomber
08-06-2013, 10:13
As much as I like the idea of miniature wargames, I never actually get to play them, because of the logistics involved, and just end up endlessly collecting armies which never see the table.

So I'm thinking about getting into boardgames, the idea being that they're more self contained, and can be played straight out of the box, hopefully with the mrs, and other people in my life who aren't wargamers.

With this in mind, my cunning plan is to start with zombies. That's the mrs weak spot, anything zombie based seems to be able to spark her interest in stuff shed otherwise avoid: comics, video games etc.

So, what are the best zombie board games (with miniatures) around at the moment?

BigbyWolf
08-06-2013, 11:03
Well, some could consider this my specialist subject! ;)

There are a couple of threads already dedicated to two of the best (and quite reasonably priced) zombie games around:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?364435-Last-Night-on-Earth-Zombie-survival-board-game
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?357928-Zombies!!!-By-Twilight-Creations-Appreciation-Thread

There are also others, like Zombicide (at 70 for the base game that's a little too much for me), but I regularly play the above games and think they're great.

TC: Zombies is every man for himself and gets very competitive. It works with two players but is better with more.

Last Night on Earth is playable as either the zombies or the heroes and can support anywhere from 2-6 players, or more if needed.

Both are totally different in their styles, but use the familiar zombie staples, like slow-moving zombies, the ability to pick up weapons, that kind of thing. They both have expansion sets (TC: Zombies has 10 currently!), which is great for replayability.

effbomber
08-06-2013, 11:17
Thanks. What's the quality of the plastic miniatures like with these two games? Not a deal breaker, but I'd like to get something to paint as well as a game.

BigbyWolf
08-06-2013, 11:43
TC: Zombies, not the best and about half the size of GW figures. They have several designs (Zombie men, women, dogs, office workers, clowns and children), of which the newer ones (Workers, Clowns and Children) are a lot better than the old ones. There are also hundreds of them (I think I have, in total, 100 men, 100 women, 100 dogs, 100 workers, 25 clowns and 25 children), so I wouldn't recommend painting them.

LNOE uses figures that are pretty much on GW scale. They are lot more detailed and there are a lot less of them (14 zombies and 8 heroes). The heroes are all unique and I think there are 2 of each type of zombie, so 7 different poses. They are perfect for painting.

The LNOE ones are also a lot harder plastic.

TC Zombies, standard male version:
172085

LNOE Zombies, from the "Grave weapons" expansion:
172086

effbomber
09-06-2013, 12:09
I can't decide between LNOE and zombicide.

It helps slightly that zombicide is not only twice the price, but also doesn't seem to be available anywhere in the uk at the moment. Anyone know of a UK or EU source which actually has it in stock?

Roguebaron
11-06-2013, 02:57
I play both LNOE and Zombicide. The key difference is in the mechanics of the game, LNOE has a lot more player vs player while zombicide is players vs the game. I like both, but right now zombicide wins if you can get a copy. They have excellent on line support with new scenarios added frequently via the website, there a new http://www.zombiesdash.com/forum/ for player support. The new expansions coming out this year also look great, the mall and the prison. Zombicide also has a healthy dose of female characters that are fun to play and may get your wife involved, it worked for mine.

BigbyWolf
14-06-2013, 14:06
LNOE has a certain amount of PvP, in that it's a team of zombies versus a team of heroes, but it's a lot more co-op then TC: Zombies, which is fully every man for himself. Sounds like Zombicide is on the other end of the scale...that's quite useful, having three game systems that cover all three aspects of the game. I may have to try and get a second-hand Zombicide from somewhere, as 70 just ain't going to happen for a single board game.

Regarding LNOE, I'm having a game of it this weekend, and may very well post a "battle" report of it.:yes:

DarthSte
14-06-2013, 14:20
A new version of Zombicide (season 2) is in the works at the moment, perhaps the original isn't available until that is released. I didn't think it is replacing Season One though.

BigbyWolf
14-06-2013, 15:53
Hopefully that might mean a price drop for the original then!:yes:

Roguebaron
15-06-2013, 12:21
A new version of Zombicide (season 2) is in the works at the moment, perhaps the original isn't available until that is released. I didn't think it is replacing Season One though.

The prison break is a stand alone game that can be played on it's own, according to the kickstarter it should be available in September. It contains 9 prison based double sided tiles, like the original game, ans well as character models, regular zombies, and the new bezerker zombies. The mall expansion is an add on, containing character models, zombie versions of the characters for the first game, called zombivores, and the new toxic zombies. It is meant as an add on to either. All the maps are compatible, and all characters useable in any game. There are 4double sided mall tiles in the mall one. The suggested retail runs 100$us for the prison, and 50$us for the mall. I really don't see a price drop coming, they are planning a new kickstarter for season 3which should start sometime next march.

effbomber
15-06-2013, 12:24
That's all great, but you can't actually buy it anywhere...

CMON emailed me to say there should be more stock available in August.

effbomber
16-06-2013, 23:00
I ended up buying LNOE, and played my first couple of games this afternoon.

It's a great game. The right mix of simplicity (you can definitely get none gamers playing it), silly, fun elements, and strategy.

It can be difficult to get the mrs involved in anything she sees as complicated, or dry, but she was well into this halfway through the first game.

The miniatures are decent enough, but still softer plastic than I was hoping for. Should paint up nicely, if I ever get around to it.

BigbyWolf
17-06-2013, 18:27
I ended up buying LNOE, and played my first couple of games this afternoon.

It's a great game. The right mix of simplicity (you can definitely get none gamers playing it), silly, fun elements, and strategy.

It can be difficult to get the mrs involved in anything she sees as complicated, or dry, but she was well into this halfway through the first game.

The miniatures are decent enough, but still softer plastic than I was hoping for. Should paint up nicely, if I ever get around to it.

Good stuff. :D:yes:

I had a couple of games on Saturday, played a massive game of "defend the manor house" which ended up with all of the heroes on the board and the zombies having a total hand size of 6 instead of 4 to even it out. Zombies still won that one.

We then had a game of "Rescue the townsfolk" with just the standard rules and the humans won that one. We basically gathered the required people and a hefty supply of weapons before taking shelter in the cornfield.:yes: