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11-06-2013, 17:11

Shagnasty's Desert Pimps...Pg1 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?374513-Dubstep-Tau-(Pic-Heavy)&p=6819401&viewfull=1#post6819401)
Space Samurai...Pg3 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?374513-Dubstep-Tau-(Pic-Heavy)&p=6827560&viewfull=1#post6827560)
Total Abject Failure...Pg4 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?374513-Dubstep-Tau-(Pic-Heavy)&p=6829749&viewfull=1#post6829749)
XV11 'Diplomat'...Pg5 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?374513-Dubstep-Tau-(Pic-Heavy)&p=6846132&viewfull=1#post6846132)
Broadside Lit...Pg5 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?374513-Dubstep-Tau-(Pic-Heavy)&p=6849124&viewfull=1#post6849124)
Shadowsun Lit...Pg5 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?374513-Dubstep-Tau-(Pic-Heavy)&p=6850106&viewfull=1#post6850106)
Archangel Farsight...Pg8 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?374513-Dubstep-Tau-(Pic-Heavy)&p=6907138&viewfull=1#post6907138)
Support Suit and Piranha...Pg9 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?374513-Dubstep-Tau-(Pic-Heavy)&p=6921623&viewfull=1#post6921623)
XV117 Development...Pg9 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?374513-Dubstep-Tau-(Pic-Heavy)&p=6921623&viewfull=1#post6921623)
XV117 Abyss Battlesuit...Pg12 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?374513-Dubstep-Tau-(Pic-Heavy)&p=6964862&viewfull=1#post6964862)

I'd like to start this log off by saying two things. First of all, it is illegal (punishable by lashes and deportation) for me to have a girlfriend while in Saudi Arabia. That should explain the amount of time I'm spending here. The second thing I'd like to say is:


With that obligatory bit of dubstep out of the way, welcome to what more than likely will amount to a failed attempt at greatness. The addled manchild mind that brought the world Horny Latin Crimson Fists and a Land Raider Brothel will now be attempting to build the most eye-catching army ever. My intention is that, when I'm finished, my Tau army will, flash, pulse, strobe, smoke and play dubstep music, and also boast a ridiculously high-energy color scheme based on this purple monstrosity that I saw on the GW website:

UPDATE: I've decided to put my finished products in the initial few posts as they get completed, saving you the trouble of combing through all the pages.

Fusion Battlesuit:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130804_080759_zpsae15bb72.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130804_080759_zpsae15bb72.jpg.html)

Missile Broadside:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130801_164406576x1024_zps7e5fa9a9.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130801_164406576x1024_zps7e5fa9a9.jpg.html)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130721_195957_zps8ea5f4b5.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130721_195957_zps8ea5f4b5.jpg.html)

XV11 Diplomat Battlesuit:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130717_104307_zpsc0808112.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130717_104307_zpsc0808112.jpg.html)

Space Samurai:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130629_222737_zps92b477b3.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130629_222737_zps92b477b3.jpg.html)

Desert Pimp Shagnasty:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131028_020842_zps3fe43208.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131028_020842_zps3fe43208.jpg.html)

XV117 Abyss Battlesuit:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131027_123200_zps605306ba.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131027_123200_zps605306ba.jpg.html)

This log will be rather slow moving because as of right now I'm deployed to Saudi Arabia, which means that I have to order the various components and bits and then they get shipped through fifteen intermediaries before sitting on the docks in Jeddah for a week until someone finally decides to ship it to my unit, and then a certain fat guy decides to get up and go on the weekly mail run and...well...it's complicated. So, things arrive when they arrive, and I'm currently waiting on a lot of the components for the LEDs and fiber optics I will be using. I haven't sourced a micro-scale smoke compound yet, but that's okay. Smoke will be later in the project and only one or two models will have it as a feature. In the mean time, though, I am prepping my battlesuits for my own individual variants on the "Tael" pattern suit that's become popular among Tau enthusiasts, as well as prepping individual components for the wires and cables and such that will have to be threaded throughout the model.

In case someone is reading this log and asking the obligatory "how do I do that?" questions, I would like to point out that this is my first rodeo, so I'm not an expert by any means. I just have more balls than sense when it comes to trying new things, and I myself am working off of the tutorials provided by Bob Hunk and a youtube guy called devinsdad. So without further ado, here are some links to my primary sources of information:

Working with LEDs by Bob Hunk: http://www.pcrc.org.uk/bob_hunk/blog/2012/dec/16/working_leds_part_on.html

Lighting a Chaos Lord by Devinsdad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD58wasTr1M

Another post will follow with some of my preliminary work once my phone (my primary camera) finishes downloading the photobucket app.

Until then...Let there be Light.

11-06-2013, 17:26
Edit: Post cleared out for later use

11-06-2013, 17:40
Alright, so I went back and drilled out the Teddybear head to allow me to snake the fiber optic wire up and into the eye piece. Let me tell you, this was a pain in the ass to try and do with the head all assembled. I accidentally drilled out the back of its head, so that needs to be patched with GS later. Actually I could have done that earlier when I was doing some GS work but I forgot. Okay, so, the lesson I would take away from this is that when you are drilling out the head of a crisis suit for your glow wire, you should do it -before- the head is fully asembled but -after- you have put the target lock bit onto the front (part of the Tael conversion). I would also recommend triming down the neck ball-joint to allow for you to create a shallow channel under the chin with your drill and knife.

Meanwhile, here is my second battlesuit head:

Anyone familiar with the Tael suits will see that this is a more conventional take on his design, which goes for a heavier, bulked out aesthetic. I pulled the instructions for building this head from this link, if anyone is interested: http://warhammer-tau-army.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/tau-battlesuit-conversions.html

I've already drilled this one out, and as far as I can tell it's about ready for the fiber optics when they arrive. I may of course have to do some more excavating once I test it out.

Here's a hot of a bunch of my weapon components all piled up so you can see the angles I'm drilling from:

Important to note that I am going for bottom-mounted fusion guns and side-mounted plasma guns. Because of this I had to come at them from different angles. Also, the double barrel design of the fusions makes them a much bigger pain to drill out, because you have to make sure that your channels both connect at a reasonable angle.

Last but not least, take a look at this:
That rib cage is from the Necron Lychguard sprue, some kind of thing that goes over their backs. I cut it in half and repositioned it (some GS work followed to correct some cutting mistakes), and after this pic was taken I went in and trimmed/cleaned some of the edges to make it more presentable. I think it bulks out the suit rather nicely, and I might make the ribs a standard feature of my fusion suits.

More to come as I continue experimenting.

11-06-2013, 18:21
It's time for a little change of pace. Today I assembled a rough mock up of my first Fire Warrior:

As you can see, I'm going for a non-standard kit. This is meant to be a small, elite force and so these Fire Warriors represent hardened veterans who have fought in numerous campaigns alongside Kroot, Gue'vesa and even Gue'ron'sha and Eldar pirates. That reminds me, I should really sit down and finalize the fluff for the Tau portion of my army at some point. It's all meant to tie in with the same crazy mess as the Crimson Fists in my other log. All that aside, the cape is from the Dark Elves Corsairs kit, with the collar and torso parts excised. Like a complete idiot, I glued the carbine on before I remembered that I wanted all rifles, so that has since come off and been replaced by the right weapon. I also did a little GS work to blend the cape into the back after I took this pic:

I'll have to get a pic up of the final version of the Fire Warrior model. Still trying to decide if I want to add some hip plates or other embellishments to the model or if it's good enough as is. Currently considering fishing some small battle honors out of my SM bits box and affixing one to each FW's shoulder pad as a kind of campaign marking to show that they all participated in a larger combined force. I want to avoid overdoing it and winding up with busy, cluttered models like my Crimson Fists veterans. Those guys have so much bling lol. But maybe a single crux terminatus or purity seal would do the trick for these guys.

Now, here's the result of some impatience on my part:


I went ahead and test-assembled the first Fusion Suit, using only tiny bits of glue so that I could break it apart again. I wanted to look and see how the pose would look when I was done, and as you can see some adjustments need to be made to the angle of the torso and such, and also so that it will actually be stepping on that bit of ruin and not dipping its foot over the front like a ballerina. More importantly, at this stage of assembly, I was able to test out the shoulder armor to see if it worked as well as I anticipated:


And another angle:


The shoulder plates are the leg guards from an Ironclad Dreadnaught. The angled armor plates match up with the Tau aesthetic very well. I'm going to trim down the pegs beneath the plates so that they attach more smoothly, and adjust the positioning slightly in the final version. Overall I'm very happy with how the plates came out and now I just need to figure out how to get more sets. If anyone has a spare set of these, please PM me! The loincloth hanging down is from the Lychguard sprue. Still surprised at how much use I'm getting out of that box (won it in a trivia contest).

Not shown in these pics are the holes I drilled in the right arm, left leg and right shoulder as preparation for the wires that will be going through the model. I'll show those in a later update when I start to finalize the leg assembly.

11-06-2013, 19:17
Great progress. Look forward to updates!

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12-06-2013, 17:30
I've begun pondering a possible issue with this army. Normally, I pant all my own models and take great pride in doing so. Click on my sig to see some of my older works from my Crimson Fists army, which featured a lot of freehand work and portraiture. Unfortunately for me, I now work in Saudi Arabia. This presents several problems. First, no local game shops anywhere where I could buy my gear. Second, major problems getting paints and brushes and such shipped over here. You can't have aerosols shipped to an APO or internationally, so no spray primer. I could buy an airbrush and start learning to use it, but I've never worked with one before so it would be sloppy amateur work to start with. I don't want this to be an amateur endeavor. Then there's the actual paints. I haven't bought a pot of paint since GW introduced their new line, so I have no idea what colors I would use for this exactly. I would have to buy a lot of paint pots, and many of those would arrive in a ruined state from sitting in the heat on the Jeddah docks for who knows how long. I could wait until winter to order it, but still, who knows?

So now I've come to the conclusion that I might just have to get the whole army painted professionally. That's going to be expensive as hell. I'll need to order a hard shelled case if I want to ship this army internationally (you should see the state of packages that arrive here...utterly mutilated!), and then the shipping cost is going to be a pain in the ass as well. Now, this paint scheme that I want to work off of is very labor intensive and precise, so I can expect a mark up from any pro painter that I hire for the job. More the pity, there. I suppose it will wait for a few months until winter time, when I won't be traveling and when my accounts will be flush from my Saudi wages.

No actual update on the project today. If anyone has a recommendation for a painting studio or would like to offer their services for when the project is done, let me know.

13-06-2013, 02:16
Just about at the end of my shift tonight, and I've just ordered half a dozen Keystone 103 20mm coin cell holders. Bob Hunk's tutorial had links to the 106 model, but this looks to be roughly the same in all respects and was available on ebay where, unlike all the actual online stores I looked through, they will gladly ship to an APO address without charging me upwards of $30 for a parcel weighing less than half a pound. So that's happening now, and in a few weeks I'll be able to post a log entry about how these units completely failed me in some way. I think I may have also secured a big enough supply of Fire Warrior shoulder pads to outfit my army in the style I'm going for. Now I just need a bunch more of those scale cloaks to keep on standby.

Bob Hunk
13-06-2013, 11:01
This looks like a very good start Bossfearless. :cool: The Tael-pattern head looks great and the Necron stuff does indeed fit in very well. Have you considered filing off the rivets on the Ironclad pads, as Tau don't really go in for rivets? :)

Regarding paint choice, don't forget that GW have a old-to-new colour conversion chart here (http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2320032a_Citadel_Conversion_Chart).

I shall be following your LED-based adventures with great interest! :D

Nomrana Est
13-06-2013, 17:03
Seconding what Bob Hunk is saying. Other than that keep on going.

Love the Tael suits. I may just borrow that idea :D

14-06-2013, 16:06
Thanks for the props, guys. I actually have been wrestling with the idea of the rivets since I first came upon the idea to put the plates to this use. On the one hand, the Tau don't usually do rivets. On the other hand, the rivets look boss. So, I'm torn. But the rivets will probably, eventually go.

A little bit of fluff for this army: This is a small, elite force that is drawn from a number of different hunter cadres. Many of the units that comprise it are veterans of several campaigns fought alongside the infamous 4th Auxiliary Company of the Crimson Fists and the 41st Rynnish Boomsticks. During this time, several of the fighting teams have "gone gue'la" and adopted non-standard equipment and tactics inspired by the methods of their allies. Of particular interest has been the rapid development of amalgamated techno-heresy by the renegade Magos Fortinbras, resulting in new varieties of streamlined semi-powered armor and heavier variants of the standard Crisis battlesuit, along with numerous auspex and sensor suites being used to supplement the already efficient Tau support systems.

That's all the fluffiness for now. I want to show some of what I did this morning before work. My elite Fire Warrior has some new friends to keep him company and start filling out the squad! Here are some WIP shots to show how I go about putting those guys together:


As you can see, the whole attachment of the cape is a very rough process. I suspect it would look quite lame if I wasn't doubling up on the shoulder pads on the fire warriors.

Shifting gears a bit, the reason I wanted to include a bit of the fluff at the beginning of this post is to set up a little bit of why these FW are running around with extra armor and drakescale cloaks and such. The cloaks aren't that big a stretch, of course, just the hide of a desert predator that proved helpful in previous campaigns and was thus kept on as a piece of kit for the unit. Other little human touches do need a bit of explanation though, like the terminator honors or purity seals that are going to go on the front of the shoulder pads at a later stage. But mostly, I needed to preemptively explain this guy:


This started as a bit of experimental cutting and gluing to see what stealth suit arms looked like on a fire warrior's body. And then I ran with the idea to create a kind of stripped down almost-battlesuit. Once I got done with that, I decided that, contrary to my usual preference, I went with the helmetless head in order to try and add some character to the model.

Have you ever tried to work with the bare Tau head? It's terrible. Featureless, expressionless, static and ugly. And there's only the one, unless you happen to have Shadowsun or an ethereal you don't mind decapitating. I started by cutting off the hair, which I never liked, and then used a knife to widen and exaggerate the nasal groove. So then that got me thinking about the mouth and what I could do there, and I started doing the same thing, widening what was already there, and then I drilled into one corner a little bit with my pin vise and stuck a little piece of brass rod in the corner of his mouth, shaping the rest of the mouth to gel with the idea that he had something sticking out one side. When painted, it's going to be a lit cigar that he's chomping, something he got from one of his gue'la shootin' buddies. But then I kept on going with the idea of putting some character into the head.

Yes, that's a bionic eye but I prefer to think of it as a monocle, because he's just that classy. From here, I plan to try and add some hair, keeping with the whole tau style of a single scalp lock, but I'd like to go with something akin to long dreads hanging off the back. Not sure yet how I'm going to go about this yet. More to come.

Edit: In case you're wondering, the interim name for the crazy FW guy is Shagnasty.

15-06-2013, 15:50
Worked a little bit on the project before I had to go on shift today. I was looking at the Stealth team sprue that came with my battleforce, and thought I might as well try and come up with something for my Shadowsun. Never built a stealth suit before, so I kinda tacked one together and then started fiddling with it. I had already broken down one of the stealth torsos for bits to be used in a future crisis suit conversion, so I had this spare jet pack in my box. I thought, if it works for the crisis suits, why not the stealths? I cut and filed and finally attached two of the jetpacks together side by side. That really bulked the suit out on its own, but there were a couple little gaps that needed covering and I employed some spare grenades from the Fire Warriors kit for the job. After that, it was a matter of mounting the guns somewhere on the model, and those little XV22 arms just didn't look right with the giant fusion guns in them, so i tacked together another idea and I like the way it turned out.



At this point, I was still just cobbling bits together aimlessly to see if it would work. As you can see, there are tons of gaps and mold lines and other stuff that I need to take care of. Basic model housekeeping. Once I decided I liked the overall look of this suit design, I started thinking more about how to fully realize the concept. After playng with the shoulder pads from the Stealth sprue, I realized that I could add like 6 more onto the model in various places to bulk out the limbs. I think this model is going to be all about the overlapping armor plates. I find myself honestly wishing this was a real suit for the Tau, a close quarters suit designed for boarding actions and the like, maybe with a Fusion gun and a Flamer for cutting bulkheads and clearing corridors, respectively.

Here's a shot from behind so you can see the jetpack assembly so far:


My doodles of possible crisis suit poses served as a nice backdrop, lol. I decided that, if this was going to be my Shadowsun equivalent, she shouldn't miss out on all the glowing craziness that the Crisis suits are going to have. So I've started the first phases of tunneling into the limbs and such to make room for LEDs and wires. Let me tell you, the legs on a stealth suit are not very cooperative for this sort of thing. You've got all these bends in the limb that you have to account for, and it means you sort of just have to get lucky with your drilling. I've currently punctured the leg in 3 places, though they can all be covered up later on, and I still don't know if my wires will make it through all the way. Total pain in my ass, that's what these legs are. I may end up ruining the Shas'vre legs by the time I'm done, and having to instead use one of the other ones. Might do that anyway, since I've damaged these so badly. I'll chalk it up to "lessons learned" and roll with it.

When it's done, I'm thinking a single red LED "eye" in place of the targeting lenses that normally go on the front of a stealth suit, and perhaps a darker, more ominous color scheme not dissimilar to the one on the box, black and deep maroon. And of course, I can try to snake fiber optic wire into the fusion guns, just like in the crisis suits.

16-06-2013, 16:14
Lots of pics in this update. I did some work on the stealth legs and I figure if you're checking in for the how-to aspect, you'll want to see all the steps I took.

Right. So...I sort of ruined the Shas'vre legs while attempting to drill them out for Shadowsun's LED wires. Screw it, the pose wasn't very dramatic anyway. My conciliati informed me that she ought to be doing mroe than just standing there, and I agreed entirely. So I was looking at the other two sets of legs, realizing that they were all really static, and I thought to myself, "If I screw up again, at least I still have one more." I made three cuts on one of the legs, one above and one below the knee, effectively making the knee a separate piece, and one at the hip that let me rotate the thigh forward. If you've ever contemplated reposing the stealth suit legs, you've definitely encountered that pain in the ass. After separating the knee and reattaching it to the thigh at a bent angle, I hacked off part of the calf to give me a little room to bend the leg up and under into a leaping pose, then filled in the enormous gap I'd left using green stuff.

As you can see, this ends up looking something akin to a bigger version of an Eldar swooping hawk pose, bent and thrust forth in a leaping pose. You can also see on the other leg where I cut it at the knee and started hollowing it out. This is a lesson hard learned from my first try at the stealth legs. You just can't get the wires through the leg up to the torso without cutting at the knee to excavate a nice wide channel. As a side benefit, cutting at the knee allows me to twist the shin slightly when I reattach it, putting the right hoof in alignment with the left for the leaping pose. Here is the other leg in bits to show you the details of how I drilled and cut it.

It might be hard to see in the second pic, but look right above the heel and you'll see the hole I drilled to feed the wires up into the model. Why, you ask, didn't I just go n through the bottom of the hoof and make it look cleaner? The angle didn't seem right for that. The goal is to get the wires up through the model with a minimum of force and you need as many straight shots as possible to do that. Because the jetpack hangs down and covers up the model's butt, I chose to come in from the back of the hip joint at as shallow an angle as possible when drilling down into the thigh from the torso:


Now, the result of all these cuts and channels is that the wires can come up from the battery in the base, through the leg and into the torso where they will connect to the LED light source. Let me show you the change that has come over the model since yesterday with this early mock up I did:

And here's the legs and jetpack by themselves so you can see them assembled and cleaned up a bit:


One thing I felt when I saw this was that the pose is a little too forward, so I plan to build up the base beneath that scenic piece to give it more of an upward angle and have her leaping into the sky. If you're curious, the base piece is from the Templar Ruins Basing Kit from Scibor Miniatures. Here's that piece by itself:

Personally, I'm kind of regretting the purchase for this particular project. I wanted something that would tie this army in with my Crimson Fists, who are all on ruined Imperial terrain, and to Scibor's credit, the piece itself is AWESOME. However, they're all a bit too big for most models. Fire warriors would be all but hidden behind pieces like this, so you're stuck putting them on bases of larger models who, in this case, are already sitting on complicated bases full of electronics. Adding resin scenery to that is a bit of a tall order. Then again, this is a project army and I intend to spend a lot of time on it regardless :)

16-06-2013, 17:01
New post, just to break it up a bit. You might be able to tell, but I was a little productive today. After I felt I had reached a good stopping point on Shadowsun, I went and revisited Shagnasty and the Fire Warriors. Sounds like an epic metal band. The first thing I did was attach some Armorcast cinematic bits to Shagnasty's pulse carbine:


Those are from Armorcast's medium and small plasma blasts pack. You can get them from Spikey Bits, Hoard O Bits, or any number of other places. They come with a little tab that I guess is supposed to help anchor them into the gun, but they were way too thick for Tau pulse weapons so I cut the tabs off and sank a small pin into them instead.

Now for something I'm quite proud of, the dragonscale cloaks. When last I posted them, they looked really rough and obvious as add-ons. I feel I've managed to blend them into the torsos quite well now.

That's my very first attempt at sculpting scales, and I think it worked out well. Granted, I just tried to take the existing texture and extend it a bit, but I'm still very pleased by it. The same was done for all four of the cloaked FWs that were assembled so far, and they all came out pretty well. Here is the same fire warrior moments earlier, to show the basics of how I did it:

See my previous posts to get a good look at the unfinished edge of the cloak where it was attached. I rolled out a very thin piece of GS into a long, thin "snake" then bent it into a crescent and laid it across the edge of the cloak. After that it was a matter of squishing it down with the sculpting tool, then trying to mimic the contours of the cloak and where I thought the edges would be. I have a minimum of two more scalies to do to make it a legal squad. I am considering going with another theme for the second Fire Warrior unit in my army. Where this one is a bunch of hard-bitten, leather-neck badasses, maybe the other unit is some extra-techy, prototype weapon testing squad. I got a single Necron Deathmark rifle in a bits grab bag from Spikey Bits (a total ripoff, most of the bag was filled by empty sprue), and I was looking at it and thinking I might be able to fit it on a Fire Warrior. But then, why bother? They can only take rifles or carbines anyway. I think that was one of the biggest missed opportunities in the Tau dex, giving FWs a chance for heavy weapons. If anyone has any ideas for a second squad's theme, let me know.

Last, and certainly least, I thought it might be nice to post a pic of my "workstation," such as it is.

The chair really is as tiny as it looks. It's like children's furniture, and it hurts to sit in it for any length of time. I got a cheap office chair at SACO the other day but I've been on the clock nonstop and haven't had much chance to assemble it. Some items of note on there: A bottle of really good lotion, because the air here dries your skin out like crazy; a bottle of Redline, a fat burner that raises your power level to over 9000, and a heavy duty air freshener, because poop gas wafts up continuously from the drains in every room. Yeah, Saudi really is a s***hole.

17-06-2013, 15:09


Dub step Tau FTW!


My name is Daniel and I am a wargamer

17-06-2013, 16:27
That was some excellent dubstep. Anyone who wishes to add a couple bass drops is welcome to do so in this thread. Go for it. You know you wanna.

Okay, so, little update today but no pics to go with. Mail call came and went this week with no package full of LEDs and gubbins. I pouted. I pouted very enthusiastically. But then I went and did what little I could since at this stage I'm pretty much stalled out until I can get some test circuits rigged up and start working on the internal workings. I assembled the last 2 Fire Warriors n the drake squad, so now I have all 6 put together. I just need to do the green stuff on the last two capes. I might have to go through and fix one of the last two, had problems with arranging the arms and shoulder plates. Meh. I might also just cover up the fault when I do the cloak sculpting. Aside from that, I widened some of the channels I'd drilled for various wires and such, and drilled an extra hole up through Shadowsun's hoof to meet up with the existing channel. That way once I thread the wires through I can seal up the calf hole with GS and it'll look presentable. I tried out a couple different bits for Shagnasty's dreadlocks, nothing looked right. It all came out looking like a grimdark mullet.

18-06-2013, 19:29
Went ahead and finished up the GS work on the last two Fire Warriors. Now I have a full minimum size squad assembled, converted, cleaned up, based and ready for painting. Or in this case, ready to be put on a shelf and start gathering dust, until they eventually get mailed off for paint work.

Hell, maybe I'll do it myself. I have no clue at this point. Despite being really time-intensive, the color scheme is not hard in the slightest. And I suppose I don't really have very many models in this force. And I suppose I'm going to want to paint the figures from the TGG Kickstarter eventually, anyway. Dammit. I think I'm going to end up painting these myself.

Anyone have any ideas for a theme for the second Fire Warrior squad? I liked the way these came out but I also want some variety.

18-06-2013, 19:59
I like the theme for your FWs. I can't really suggest any ideas except maybe a unit that has either 'borrowed' equipment from IG or maybe wearing some trophies from fighting so many Orks. I think your army would fit in great with Farsight, having to salvage what they can to keep the fighting going, not afraid to stray from the greater good to get the job done.

21-06-2013, 18:19
I like the theme for your FWs. I can't really suggest any ideas except maybe a unit that has either 'borrowed' equipment from IG or maybe wearing some trophies from fighting so many Orks. I think your army would fit in great with Farsight, having to salvage what they can to keep the fighting going, not afraid to stray from the greater good to get the job done.

I'm trying to stay away from the idea of kill trophies and outright savagery (although I really want to have one guy using Ork iron jaws as shoulder pads lol) On my CF's, sure, I did that a lot. But this is meant to be more of a clean-cut force that, while certainly divergent from the Tau norm, is not so far removed from the ideals of the Greater Good. I went and ordered some alternate heads from Pig Iron Productions (System troopers alternate heads, kind of a cool visored look) and I'm not 100% sure yet if I'll be replacing the ones from Shagnasty's Desert Dudes (that's their name now lol) or if they're just going to be on the other squad exclusively. I've been putting together a prototype guy for the other squad, kind of slowly fiddling with various bits as possible replacements or embellishments. If you followed my Crimson Fists log, you won't be surprised that it's a standard bearer. I do love me some standard bearers! Anyway, this was an experiment using one of the staff weapons from the Lychguard kit and I kind of like the look of it. Right now, the only solid thing I have going is replacing the standard FW backpack with a spare battlesuit multitracker, with that big antenna sticking up and back. It's kinda cool, sort of an extra high tech feel so far. Anyway, I don't have any pics to post for this update because photobucket is being a pain in the butt. Maybe tomorrow or the next day or something. Maybe I'll just wait until the next mail call so I know if I have my LED stuff yet :(

22-06-2013, 13:27
Gotcha. I know it's not unique but why not have a unit of human fire warriors, or human conscripts.
Maybe another unit it an elite fire warrior unit, using new battle gear. Maybe give them some odd necron bits to look like new tech they are testing out.

I'm impressed you did all of this in Saudi, did you bring all your materials or have them shipped. I'm assuming your in the military or a military contractor.

22-06-2013, 15:47
I'm impressed you did all of this in Saudi, did you bring all your materials or have them shipped. I'm assuming your in the military or a military contractor.

Contractor. The king has decreed that there are no American military elements here, so it all has to be privatized. He also decreed that there is no Al Qaeda presence, so those guys that got caught with a warehouse full of bomb materials? Not Al Qaeda, because otherwise the king would be wrong and we can't have that. Teh lulz. As for my set up, I had pre-packed some of my bits and such so that they could be shipped over, but I've had to buy a few tools and implements here. The SACO here in Hofuf is like a Home Depot kind of a store, but with a housewares section. So I got a bunch of things there like hobby knives, glue, things like that. Other things I can order online. As for finding a way to get paints shipped over...I just don't know.

Also, a unit of human auxiliaries was one of my first thoughts, but I'm not running with it because there will already be a bunch of humans in this army. I like to bring an IG allied contingent with me to tournaments so i can bring a Manticore and a ton of HWT squads, and all of those are going to be Jailbirds from Raging Heroes ( http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/raging-heroes-the-toughest-girls-of-the-galaxy ). Seriously, this is a great miniature range and everyone should buy into it. Anyways, I'm going with kind of an advanced tech squad as my second unit of FW. I have enough drakescale cloaks to fill out the first unit to full membership eventually, but I want a separate theme to each squad. Here is the first guy I'm working on for that new unit, the icon bearer:

One nice thing is that there's basically a tau symbol on the staff. So many of the necron glyphs correspond to the general shape of tau iconography that it's easy to blend the two ranges. Trying to decide on what to have him doing with his free hand. I'm thinking either holding a bonding knife (though I never buy those upgrades) or a scanner, maybe try to sculpt him cradling a pulse rifle in his off hand. Why couldn't the staff have come with a left-handed grip? If it becomes an issue I'll try modding one of the other staves from the kit.

In the mean time, here is a group shot of the desert drakes to give you a feel for how they look as a squad:

And now I come to the part of this post where I must confess a moment of weakness. As those of you who have seen my other works may attest, I have a penchant for bling and an affinity for pimping. As I was pawing through my bits box, a flash of ill-conceived inspiration took me, and then this happened:


Shagnasty has donned his pimp hat and, upon reciting the Pimp's Prayer, shall pulse-slap many a hoe in the name of the Greater Good. Now, this is actually a good thing. You see, I now have a designated pimp model and so I won't be tempted to go through and do an entire wing of the army as pimps. Though I still may. I...I would just need more hats.

I'm going to break the posts up since this is a really large update.

22-06-2013, 16:28
Alrighty, this update is going to focus on the battlesuits, which is what I'd rather every update focused on. Now, way back at the start of this log I mentioned that the Support Suit in my Farsight Bomb would be using necron shields as hovering point defense systems. Since then, I've been wrestling with how I wanted to mount the shields and rods and things on the arms, and it's been looking like nothing but crap. However, today I had a burst of inspiration and I thought to myself, "Do I even need arms?" The answer is no. He's got no guns, so he needs no arms.

So, what I want to happen is to have a glowing energy field suspending the shields on either side of the torsos. To give you an idea of the effect, look at the necron in this video:

Now, two things about that video you should pay attention to. First and foremost is the powerful green glow. That's what I'm going for using the necron green rod and a green LED, though some experimentation may be required. Second thing is the size of the base that bastard is on. Look at that thing! It's so bloody obvious that no amount of cork in the world is going to convince anyone that there isn't a bunch of gubbins shoved up in there. That runs the magic o the piece entirely, and is what the entire process outlined in the Devinsdad tutorial (see first post) is aimed at avoiding, just as I will be avoiding the hell out of it (hopefully).

So, here is a quick sketch I did of how I want the support suit to look. I believe it's written on the back of a crumpled up grocery list:

Now, some of that may just look like scribbles and you may be looking at the jetpack assembly like "huh?" But look at the actual piece and try to understand the proportions:

There are a lot of bits involved here. Those are two smoke launchers from the Chaos vehicle sprue with the adjoining sides cut down to allow me to fit them both onto the jetpack assembly. They're meant to represent the Neuroweb System Jammer, an array of ECM and other countermeasure dispersing launchers that foul up auspex readings and saturate the air around enemy units with flammable particulates, making it very unwise to fire weapons. The piece on top is some random piece of tech from the IG sentinel kit. Not sure what it's for lol but it's acting as part of the excessive sensor suite that the suit is equipped with. And finally on the sides of the jetpack are the vents from the Typhoon missile launcher. I figured that with all these extra processors and such, the suit would generate a lot more heat and therefore need additional cooling. Plus they bulk it out really well!

So that explains all the back mounted bits in the sketch. The legs are obviously given extra armor over the shins in the form of FW or Stealth shoulder plates, which serve double duty by also covering up the holes and cuts where I reposed the leg or fed wires through. I haven't built those yet. Still waiting on proof of concept before I really get into that. Now, the real eye catcher of the model is going to be the shields. Now, instead of crisis arms I am going to mount some muzzle bits from necron weapons on the sides of the torso facing outward, and from those will be projected a powerful green glow. Best case scenario, I will be able to mount an LED in each shoulder as well as the Iron Man light in the center of the chest (hopefully all on one 3v battery if I wire them in...parallel? series? I need to check my notes). The light from the side LEDs will be directed into one of the green necron rods, which will be cut shorter so that, when they attach at the other end to the inner surface of the shield, there will be a minimal amount of rod showing. The goal is to have it just diffuse all that green light and get a really sweet archeotech effect. Of course, the shields will not actually do anything in game. I'm not spending even more points on a shield generator when the thing has a million ablative wounds and stealth and every other damn thing already. And of course it will be topped off with the Teddybear head featured earlier in this log, which I feel has more of a sensor-intensive look to it.

Knowing all that, maybe take another look at the sketch now if you couldn't make sense of it before. It's not exactly a work of art but I was just doodling.

Now, here's the torso so far for that same suit. Note the extra heat dumps and the sensor from the hunter killer missile attached to the chest:
I'll have to snip off those shoulder nubs and source some suitable energy projector bits because there are sadly none in that Lychguard sprue I've been raiding. I'm currently talking to a guy on the DakkaDakka swap shop who can solve a lot of my bits issues...if he ever decides to start checking his inbox again.

Finally, here's a little something I tacked together and prepped for an LED. I think it will be Farsight's plasma gun when I eventually build him:

That's a stealth suit burst cannon with the muzzle replaced by a magna grapple off of a Furioso Dreadnaught. I have already drilled it out and prepped it for accepting an LED or optical wire as you can see here:

If I can't find an appropriate necron bit to use for the Support Suit, this gun is going to get broken apart and that tip will be repurposed along with its twin to make the shoulder mounts. Alright, it seems that I am finally done with all the updates for right now. Feel free to chime in and tell me that it all sucks :P

22-06-2013, 19:40
Page 2 already and no sign of a Basscannon?! Weak sauce mate. :p

Like the LED idea though.

22-06-2013, 19:41
Now there's some thinking I could get behind. How the hell would you go about modeling a basscannon, though?

23-06-2013, 05:58
Borrow an Eldar Vibro-cannon maybe?

23-06-2013, 16:26
Borrow an Eldar Vibro-cannon maybe?

The eldar vibro cannon sounds like a marital aid. True story.

In other news, guess what came in the mail today? LEDs! I've got a bunch of 1.5mm and 3mm LEDs to play with now in various colors, plus a bunch of 2mm reed switches some 3V almost-expired Saudi coin cells and some #30 electromagnet wire. I'm actually a bit skeptical about the wire, though. In order to save space, I ordered enamel coated electromagnet wire, which was recommended by another youtube tutorial. It eschews a rubber coating for some insulating paint, thus saving me a lot of space. Great for tight spaces and small applications. However, it looks like mine is not actually coated in anything and is just bare copper wire. I'm not pleased with that, since I'm not sure if I can wire my circuit up inside a model without the wires crossing, and to be honest I'm not even sure what that does. Burns out the LEDs, I imagine. Regardless, I think I can find replacement wires at SACO when I go down to the hospital in a couple days (gotta get me some of those Filipina nurses!). They're practically next door to one another. If I can't find any super thin wire, I'll have to try something else and order some new wire from Amazon.

And my optical wire still hasn't arrived. I imagine that will be along next week or so.

On the positive side, these LEDs are TINY!!! Like, holy crap son, I can't believe how small the 1.5mm ones actually are. Sure, it says "1.5mm" right there in the name, but I somehow thought they'd still manage to be overly bulky somehow. But they're like the head of a pin. Pretty sure I could fit one into a hollowed out space marine head for some glowing eyes, though that's really a job for the optical wire. Unfortunately, the mail got here right at the start of my shift so I can't actually work on any of it til tomorrow at the earliest. Pout. I guess that gives me some time to fire off a few PMs to an expert for help with the wire thing.

24-06-2013, 03:32
Page 2 already and no sign of a Basscannon?! Weak sauce mate. :p

Like the LED idea though.

What is a Basscannon?

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24-06-2013, 15:57
What is a Basscannon?

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I have no clue what he's specifically talking about. But I sometimes hear that term used for a really loud speaker or powerful subwoofer.

24-06-2013, 16:34
The Basscannon is a weapon, created by Flux Pavillion, that Dubstep DJs have been using for some. The tune is dropped, the dancefloor explodes, and ravers go berserk! Its effects can be seen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCT6VCFTLMk).

Caution: contains extreme bass! :evilgrin:

24-06-2013, 19:32
*clears throat*

Let there be LIGHT


That's right, that's a sexy-ass LED'd crisis suit torso. Who wants to touch me?

That was the first thing I rigged up earlier as I was experimenting with my various components. I glued the bulb in place with super glue, partially as an experiment to see if they fog up like other clear plastics do when exposed to superglue fumes (they do not fog up after all, so super glue works fine). The wire I got ended up being the right kind after all. The enamel they coated the wires with is either clear or copper colored, which is why I couldn't tell they were coated originally. This is the Fusion Suit torso in its current state, and it's going to basically remain like this until I get my optical wires in the mail. Protip: Be patient and don't go gluing everything together in a hurry to see what it looks like (more on that later).

After that initial proof of concept, I pulled out the parts for Shadowsun and promptly started wiring her up. I chose PINK as the color for her LEDs because it seemed to work nicely, being only slightly divergent from the rest of the color scheme but unique enough to show that she's special. It's not exactly pink, more of an electric violet. So here's some step by step on how I assembled this mess.

The first couple steps are pretty simple, just threading the wire through the base and foot. I found that twisting the wires together will make them sturdier and much, much easier to thread through these tight corners. After those steps, I fitted the upper and lower leg parts together and threaded the wires up to the hip joint:


So, lesson learned. When you're gluing a joint that has wires threaded through it, especially if they aren't trimed to the proper length yet, you probably want to use a gel super glue. Now, normally I'm not a fan of it, but I got a bottle of it in a pack I bought of cheap liquid glue. The reason I say this is because when I glued the knee together, the liquid glue ran down into the shin and cemented the wire in place. It was not going to come out under any circumstances, and I ended up destroying the shin in the process of trying to correct this mistake. Luckily, I had more sets of stealth legs and I made another piece very quickly, but because of that I had to undo all the soldering and everything that came next in order to make the parts fit correctly. Back to the good stuff.

Right about now I was ready to solder my first LED into place. At this stage it wasn't important to keep track of positive/negative or anything like that.

To say that I was amateurish would be an understatement. Look at those big blobs of solder. Less is usually more in these cases. And of course, at just about every step of the process you want to constantly test your circuit to see if you've screwed something up, so here's a shot of my LED being tested:

And of course, the moment of truth. How does it look when the torso is attached?


Got more lens flare than Skyline up in here. Another shot at a slightly different angle:


That's somewhat menacing and she doesn't even have guns on her yet lol. Of course after that was done I had to break the torso apart and hollow it out a little more. I needed to make sure I would have room to snake optical wire into contact with the LED if I found a way to make that work. The end result was that the torso didn't quite shut all the way, and I have to go back and do some gap filling later on. For now though, here is Shadowsun mostly assembled:

I've bulked out the suit a bit using extra shoulder pads as hip plates, and I plan to add a few more embellishments along the way to make her more menacing than any mere stealth suit. Not sure yet if I like the placement of the arms. I might switch it up a bit to try and make the pose a little more heroic, but there's only so much you can do with the chubby XV-25 body. Trust me, the kit is NOT very dynamic. Aside from all that, I'm not sure i can get the optical wire into that small of a space and have it bend around through the jetpack into the fusion guns. It's just too many sharp angles. So...her gun barrels might not end up glowing, which is sad. But she's still going to be a pretty badass cyber cyclops.

That's all for today. Probably going to put up a bit more tomorrow, but first, a word from our sponsors.
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24-06-2013, 20:08
Looks great!
Are you going to leave the LED exposed or thin the face plate and place it over the LED so it glows?

24-06-2013, 23:12
Looks great!
Are you going to leave the LED exposed or thin the face plate and place it over the LED so it glows?

You know, I've been wrestling with that same question. On the one hand, the crazy bright cyclops look is pretty awesome. On the other hand, maybe it is too bright. Maybe the lens thingy with a glow around it would be awesomer I guess I am gonna have to try it out to see how it looks. I might post pics, or I might pass summary judgement upon it once I see how it looks.

25-06-2013, 23:01
Took some time out from work for a little bit tonight and worked on a couple random bits and pieces. Filled in a few gaps with GS, shaved a few mold lines, really just anything I could think of to fill some time before I had to go back in from my break. It's nice living 5 feet from where I work. Also started conversion on the leader of the other fire warriors. Going with kind of a space samurai idea that I had way back n the day when I had my first Tau army, right when the first codex came out. So now I'm gonna try and play with that idea. It involves a hat, of course (what worthwhile plan doesn't?).

26-06-2013, 16:41
Did some work on the Support Suit today, got some drilling done for the wires up through the leg and drilled out the shoulders. Other than that just a bit of minor touch up work. Trying to decide on what color I want the lights on the support suit to be. going with white for the fusions, Red for Farsight himself, Pink for Shadowsun, either white or maybe blue for the plasmas. I was looking at green because I wanted to use the green necron rods as part of that effect, but I don't know if they'll do the job properly. Also, the green ones are pretty dim by comparison. Yellow wouldn't look right, nor would orange. Blue might. Green still seems like a good idea but I want the light to be much more intense than what these green ones put out.

26-06-2013, 17:08
I saw this thread today and it reminded me of yours.

26-06-2013, 19:05
I saw that log yesterday and actually mine is one of the more recent comments on it :P I started working on a similar style of cloak to the ones that he uses on his fire warriors, except I'm trying to sculpt it so that it looks like it's laying atop one of the shoulder plates, using a bit of wire as a frame. My hope is that it will look awesome. The reality is that it will probly end up looking terrible and getting scrapped :D

26-06-2013, 21:21
More power to you for challenging yourself and picking up some new skills. I would like to try some sculpting but having been able to set timer aside to learn it.

Looking forward to seeing more and getting more ideas to stea... er, barrow from you. ;)

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28-06-2013, 00:05
Here, enjoy this space samurai at your leisure.


I had written up a whole step by step blog for the cloak but then my PC crashed and now I don't wanna write it all out again.

28-06-2013, 21:58
Samurai looks awesome, as does the Shadowsun LED.

28-06-2013, 21:59
Samurai looks awesome, as does the Shadowsun LED. What an original idea!

28-06-2013, 22:13
Loving the desert punk tau, funny I did the same thing with the drones.

And remember people we all have big guns, assaults win games!!!!

Nomrana Est
28-06-2013, 22:54
Ooh, that Shadowsun conversion is looking nice. I'm very impressed. Would very much like to see where you go with this, as well as the support suit.

28-06-2013, 23:50
Edit: Deleted a bunch of minor WIP pictures to save photobucket bandwidth. You didn't miss a whole lot here.

29-06-2013, 19:48
As promised, I took some pics of the samurai when I got my phone/camera in my hands. Here are some of the finished cloak:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130629_181401_zpsab642834.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130629_181401_zpsab642834.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130629_181418_zps0638618b.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130629_181418_zps0638618b.jpg.html)

Doing the muffler around the neck was super easy. I just rolled out a long "snake" of GS and ran it up along the chest (to patch over the bit of exposed wire there) and then coiled it twice around the neck. I smoothed out where it attached and I made sure to sit the head down in there to make sure it would fit, and made some adjustments like that. Like I said, very simple and easy.

Now, after I finished the cloak I started embellishing the head. I saw another blog where a guy had braided (actually sat there and braided) wire together to make a tau braid. Having a functional Y chromosome, I don't know how to braid a damn thing, and am not about to learn. So I took three strands of wire, twisted two together and then sorta interwove the third around and in between them. Close enough. Then I drilled a small hole up into the hat right behind his head and I attached the braid there.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130629_181628_zps590710e7.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130629_181628_zps590710e7.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130629_181639_zps23b30fc7.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130629_181639_zps23b30fc7.jpg.html)

Once the head was attached, I bent the wire braid into a good shape like it was falling across his shoulder and dangling forward. I tied the whole thing in a little knot at the end to give it a bit of a "tuft" but I might go back and GS it to get the textrue right. Plus that would secure it in one place. Right now it kinda dangles a bit.

Now, I spent a while pawing through my bits to figure out what sword a tau space samurai would have. I wanted it suitably impressive but not something too obviously stolen from an Imperial or chaos model.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130629_222737_zps92b477b3.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130629_222737_zps92b477b3.jpg.html)

As you can see, I ended up settling on this necron sword from that unbelievably useful Lychguard sprue I won in a trivia contest. Seriously, that thing has been helpful as all hell. I liked it because it felt almost tau-ish, like many necron things do, and because the shaft looks like it terminates in an energy projector of some kind, lending the idea that it could be a projectile weapon. The arm is from a chaos marauder guy. I liked the idea of him giving everyone a free ticket to the gun show, so I'm leaving the second pauldron off. I also cut away the pinky finger of the hand holding the sword, since tau are rocking one less digit than the rest of the world. I'll need to do a little bit of GS cleanup here and there. Probly when I go back and do the bit at the end of the braid. I think I'll use this guy as my Aun'Shi if I ever decide to throw him into a list.

That's all on the Fire Warrior front for now. Next update, some battlesuit progress!

29-06-2013, 20:26
Edit: Same here. Mostly just me testing out some poses and making rickety mock ups of the suits to see if their proportions worked. The good stuff comes later on ;)

29-06-2013, 20:33
Cool project, I like the direction it is heading...HURRY UP AND POST MORE!

29-06-2013, 20:39
Plasma should be green, it will contrast nicely with blue leds

29-06-2013, 22:17
Before you send off this awesome modelling to get painted at great cost, have you considered painting a couple test models with gesso? (http://www.amazon.com/Liquitex-BASICS-Gesso-Surface-Medium/dp/B000KNDMLG) (there's also some good recommendations for other brush on primers in this thread:http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?43873) I know some people who live in areas that get too humid to really use spray primer and they say it's a fine alternative. It's more labor intensive and time consuming than spray priming but it'd be much much cheaper than getting this pro painted. Is aerosol the only problem or would acrylics not make it in country either?

29-06-2013, 23:01
The green LEDs aren't very bright. They're actually on the dim side. I've got yellow, orange, pink, blue, white, and who knows what will be coming in the package from that kickstarter, but I'd really like to get the first suit wired up without waiting another month or two for that stuff to get here.

29-06-2013, 23:08
this might sound wierd but have you seen the wub wub gun from saints row 4? it would be pretty cool to see the dubstep tau using it :p http://hw1.pa-cdn.com/par/img/editorial/DubstepGun_Final_Renders.jpg

30-06-2013, 01:57
this might sound wierd but have you seen the wub wub gun from saints row 4? it would be pretty cool to see the dubstep tau using it :p http://hw1.pa-cdn.com/par/img/editorial/DubstepGun_Final_Renders.jpg

Yes, that looks like something that would help to bring out the theme in my army. But I don't really know where I'd model it. I may end up taking a single Broadside down the line and turning him into a BassMachine, modeling giant shoulder mounted speakers or something to really throw the dubwub across the table. For now though, I'm just working on getting my first few builds taken care of. Tau can be a real challenge to model effectively!

Okay, so, earlier tonight I posted updates on the Plasma and Support suits, but I neglected the Fusion because I was still puzzling a few things out. I tried a lot of different configurations over the course of the evening, looking at which shoulder plates worked for the design, taking comparisons of with/without shoulder plates, and also cutting down the stealth helmet pieces to fit into different configurations on the Fusion than on the others. This is an early test shot I took to consider the idea of using the halves of the helmet to create a really high gorget:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130630_024948_zps16e9377b.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130630_024948_zps16e9377b.jpg.html)

I'm not going to use it for the Fusion but it might get worked into the design for Farsight when I get to that. Of course, some modification will be required. However, this next bit I'm quite proud of. The Fusion suit has been hitting the bench press a lot lately!
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130630_033957_zpsee63664b.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130630_033957_zpsee63664b.jpg.html)

Also in this pic I was testing to see if I liked it better with or without the giant pauldron. With. It took a LOT of cutting and shaving of the stealth plates to get them to work in these positions, but I have managed to really bulk out the chest and shoulders of the Fusion suit a lot more than the others. Check it out.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130630_041902_zpscd87b543.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130630_041902_zpscd87b543.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130630_041917_zps33755214.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130630_041917_zps33755214.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130630_041942_zps312a2d57.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130630_041942_zps312a2d57.jpg.html)

I'm quite proud of this design. I've done a lot of trawling across a lot of forums and galleries looking for converted battlesuit ideas. I've seen a ton of variations on the Tael design and some totally original suits that inspired me to do a few crazy builds. However, I have not seen any that have gone this direction. I'm calling this pattern the RoidBot. Now obviously, there is a lot of GS work to be done and a lot of gaps to fill, but this one is still at the same stage as the others, waiting for its electronic guts before being glued and sealed and all its details finalized. The arms will be reposed, and I plan to bulk out the legs with more armor and badassery as soon as all my parts have arrived. Trying to do this in Saudi Arabia is a total pain in the ass!

On a side note, I was thinking and I think this is by far the most actual sculpting I have ever done on any project. The only thing I can think of that I did a lot of GS work on was my Mechanicum Knight titan that runs with my GK as a Dreadknight. Unfortunately I never took pics of it, and now it's half a world away and packed in a storage closet. Even still, I can say that the work I have been doing with GS and sculpting/kitbashing during this tau project is leagues beyond what I have done previously. This is the sort of project that makes you grow as a hobbyist and seek out new skills to bring ideas to fruition. Frankly, I haven't had this much fun with the hobby aspect in a long time.

30-06-2013, 12:34
This is a really exciting log, loving all the experimentation with LEDs and can't wait to see more. And that chunky fusion suit is immense, you've found a bunch of parts that work incredibly well together.

30-06-2013, 13:03
This is a really exciting log, loving all the experimentation with LEDs and can't wait to see more. And that chunky fusion suit is immense, you've found a bunch of parts that work incredibly well together.

Thanks! When my suits hit the table, I want my opponent to take one look and go "Maybe...maybe i didn't bring enough guys."

30-06-2013, 16:48
Blarg! Why won't the stupid mail get here already? Maybe tomorrow. Blech.

Meanwhile, I find myself at a little bit of an impasse. I'm not really sure where to go from here since so many of my ideas revolve around individual bits that I'm waiting on, or the intolerably delayed fiber optics, coin cell holders, or other such shortages. I can think of a few little tweaks I can make to the various suits, but very few of these could be definitively classed as a real step forwards. For instance, I can't really start on the legs until the bits I ordered from this Japanese model site get here (Hobby Link Japan is awesome, btw), and I can't really assemble the things on their bases definitively until I get the bases built up around the coin cell holders. So basically I am hamstrung by the lack of key components. Heck, I don't even know whether the ones I ordered are the right kind! Like as not they'll get here and I'll be very cross with myself for ordering something useless.

I have, however, started work modifying the second squad of Fire Warriors, putting together prototype guns for them to use. I'll post pics later, but right now they've got some snub-nozed pulse cannons that are just lovely. Still, they need something more. And of course I have no shoulder pads for them, having used them all on the first squad lol.

30-06-2013, 21:57
Since I was at an impasse with the rest of my models, I decided to assemble the Piranha that came with my battleforce, just as a time filler. I don't know whether I'll use them or not, but they do seem rather appealing as an anti troop option once you've opened up all the enemy's transports. I will say this in my own defense: For the most part, I did a good job assembling it. One problem, though. I installed a green LED in the forward ventral surface to give it a cool ground effect light, with the intent of hiding the battery and such inside the chassis beneath the drivers. Problem is, my 20mm coin cells are wider than the chassis by a millimeter or so. So...problem. The solution is rather simple, however. They make smaller cells and smaller cell holders, so I'll just order some of those. Unfortunately, that means that this project has to go in back on the shelf for a month until the new parts arrive, lol. I already magnetized the front armament, though, so I can switch between burst and fusion at will. Here's a shot of where and how I put the LED in on this one:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130701_002355_zpsb8839b95.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130701_002355_zpsb8839b95.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130701_002407_zpsecdef523.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130701_002407_zpsecdef523.jpg.html)

If the parts I'm waiting for don't get here in this mail call, I may have to shelve the Tau for a week or two and break ground on my warhound titan scratch build. Just sayin'.

01-07-2013, 16:38

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130701_170904_zps6bc42124.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130701_170904_zps6bc42124.jpg.html)

Okay, roll call. We've got 20 System Troopers heads from Pig Iron that are going on my Fire Warriors, 6 20mm coin cell holders (didn't want to buy too many in case they were the wrong kind), a roll of fiber optic wire, new clippers (old ones went missing), a foot long strip of green stuff (I nearly ran out), a bunch of Kotobukiya mecha accessory sprues (my gundam is FIGHT!), bling and assorted bits from Hoard O Bits (stuff I was just about out of), and enough options to suddenly overwhelm me with the possibilities of what I can do here. I literally do not know where to start now. I suppose the most important thing will be to take the cell holders and start trying to work one into a base, see what it's going to take to hide one of those effectively. That will let me at least get the legs assembled and finalized so that the model can be attached to the base. But wait...maybe I need to do the fiber optics first, since I have to close the Crisis suit's torso to mount the leg onto it, meaning that I won't be able to get at the LEDs after the model is mounted.

Okay, yeah, second option. Fiber optics are the priority tonight. Time to start fiddling with em to find out how far they bend, what they do and don't like to do, and how to attach them. Here's a new problem, and one I really should have thought about before now: heat shrink tubing. If you don't know this is a bit of plastic tubing that shrinks when heat is applied. You would put it around an LED and the ends of the fiber optics to squeeze them together and get the whole thing to stay together. There may be other ways to go about this, but I think I'll be best served by getting some of that stuff for the long run, if I plan to do more lighting projects (and I do).

Right! First on the docket tonight will be the piranha. It's going to be the easiest to do since the fiber optics on it are very straight-forward. I don't have to do any fancy threading through multiple barrels or changing directions, and no crazy hovering effects or anything like that. I can use it as an experiment in putting the base together, before I move on to the fiber optics and try to do the plasma suit. Wish me luck.

01-07-2013, 18:12
I am immediately regretting this course of action. The hell was I thinking?

On the one had, there's a lot of space in the torso of a tau battlesuit. On the other hand, this idea was crazy ambitious. I have lights that need to go in at least 4 directions. I've got the chest light which needs to be fitted in place in the chest facing outward. Then I have the eyes, and both arms, all of which go different ways. Okay. I hadn't counted on the sheer unidirectionality of LED lights when I was planning this project and drilling holes and such. The light goes mostly one way. So the LED in the chest can't be used to funnel light through the fiber optics into the shoulders and arms and such. I'll need a second LED just to shoot light into the glow wire. Okay. I can do that. I was experimenting with it a bit before, multiple LEDs on the same battery. Shouldn't be a problem in the long haul. I just have to solder them in...series? Parallel? I forget. Then I need to wrap the spare LED up with the optics (I experimented using some clear scotch tape, worked well enough) and run the wires through the limbs and into the head. WONG! I have to run the wire the other way! In through the gun barrels, into the forearms, up through the shoulders and then into the torso. But wait, here's the part that's a pain in the ass! Here is where the wire keeps breaking on me. I have to bend the optical wire into an angle where both strands coming in from the opposite ends will meet facing the same way. That seems to be a little too much for the wire to handle with the tension in it from all the mini-bends going through the arms. So what I think I have to end up doing is actually kinking the wire at a few key points along the way to take the tension off of the piece I'll be working on inside the torso. That's going to break a lot of wires along the way, but I think it can be done. Impossible is relative.

Bob Hunk
01-07-2013, 20:39
I'm looking forward to seeing Shadowsun finished! :cool:

01-07-2013, 21:10
I'm looking forward to seeing Shadowsun finished! :cool:

Well Bob, here's the problem. The coin cell holders I ordered are officially wider than the 25mm base Shadowsun is meant to be mounted on. I have to either upgrade to a 40mm base or wait for a month or so til some 12mm ones get here. Probably both. Bloody hell. I may end up having to do the method with the reed switch, and that will also involve upgrading to a 40mm base. But hey, it's legal to upsize a base. In other news, these 20mm coin cells are probably a little too big for most miniature applications. I am probably going to try and order a bunch of 12mm cells and holders instead. That will let me work with them a little bit easier, I think. Still going to try and get it done with what I currently have, though, since I've been waiting forever to start on this phase of the project.

I am really glad that I have like 500 feet of this fiber optic wire. This stuff breaks so easily it's just stupid.

01-07-2013, 22:36

This is me right now.

01-07-2013, 23:12
Persevere my man, we're all rooting for you!

02-07-2013, 01:20
Today has been a day not of failure, but of SPECTACULAR failure. I just...I don't even have enough facepalm to cover this. Let me give you a roll call of today's fail.

1. I accidentally shave off all my hair. Yeah. That was how the day started. I started off by going bald, and it went downhill from there.
2. I got all my goodies in the mail. This was fail masquerading as win, for it led to the rest of the fail hereafter.
3. I immediately stab myself with an exacto knife while trying to make some new channels in the plasma suit's shoulders.
4. I spend four hours breaking fiber optic wire before someone points out that it's much to heavy for this type of application
5. I shatter the Teddybear head while taking the wire out of it. At this point any sane mind would have recognized that it was "One of Those Days" and not gone any further.
6. I break 3 reed switches whilst prodding them to ascertain their properties.
7. I spend an hour trying to solder wires onto one LED. It still has no wires.
8. In my infinite wisdom, I grip a hot soldering iron like a pencil and burn the fingertips of my right hand. Because I am apparently that god damned stupid. There are now drips of solder all over the counter, all over the soldering iron stand, all over EVERYTHING except the LED. It is at this point that I realize that ambitious efforts are not to be undertaken today.

So now the soldering iron is cooling on the counter and the pain is starting to flood into my fingertips as I type this. "Why the hell are you typing with freshly burned fingers" you might ask. Penance, for I am penitent in my idiocy and the pain will remind me to stop doing anything potentially hazardous when everything has started going to hell. This is the point where you stop everything and just play video games for the rest of the night. NO! Not the one that autosaves your progress and you'll have to spend a week un-screwing the pooch. Safe games. Play Civilization or something until you're tired, then go to sleep. That is how you fight a day like this. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go clean the molten metal off of every conceivable surface.

03-07-2013, 15:37

Bob Hunk
05-07-2013, 09:23
Well Bob, here's the problem. The coin cell holders I ordered are officially wider than the 25mm base Shadowsun is meant to be mounted on. I have to either upgrade to a 40mm base or wait for a month or so til some 12mm ones get here. Probably both. Bloody hell. I may end up having to do the method with the reed switch, and that will also involve upgrading to a 40mm base. But hey, it's legal to upsize a base. In other news, these 20mm coin cells are probably a little too big for most miniature applications. I am probably going to try and order a bunch of 12mm cells and holders instead. That will let me work with them a little bit easier, I think. Still going to try and get it done with what I currently have, though, since I've been waiting forever to start on this phase of the project.

Yes, unfortunately while it's true that the coin cell holders don't fit under regular bases (part of the reason that I prefer rolled shoulder ;)) the problem with using 12mm cells is that most of them are 1.5V and most LEDs are 3V, so you need two of the smaller cells anyway. :( If you can find a good supplier of 3V 12mm cells (normally called button cells) or 1.5V miniature LEDs then I'd appreciate a link! :D

So either way, there are compromises to be made...

Today has been a day not of failure, but of SPECTACULAR failure. I just...I don't even have enough facepalm to cover this. Let me give you a roll call of today's fail.

1. I accidentally shave off all my hair. Yeah. That was how the day started. I started off by going bald, and it went downhill from there.
2. I got all my goodies in the mail. This was fail masquerading as win, for it led to the rest of the fail hereafter.
3. I immediately stab myself with an exacto knife while trying to make some new channels in the plasma suit's shoulders.
4. I spend four hours breaking fiber optic wire before someone points out that it's much to heavy for this type of application
5. I shatter the Teddybear head while taking the wire out of it. At this point any sane mind would have recognized that it was "One of Those Days" and not gone any further.
6. I break 3 reed switches whilst prodding them to ascertain their properties.
7. I spend an hour trying to solder wires onto one LED. It still has no wires.
8. In my infinite wisdom, I grip a hot soldering iron like a pencil and burn the fingertips of my right hand. Because I am apparently that god damned stupid. There are now drips of solder all over the counter, all over the soldering iron stand, all over EVERYTHING except the LED. It is at this point that I realize that ambitious efforts are not to be undertaken today.

Yikes! :eek: Sounds like quite a bad day! I think you're right, the key is to normally walk away early. ;) I really hope this doesn't come across a patronising, but part of my day job is working with soldering and electronics, so would you like a few soldering hints and tips? Feel free to tell me where to shove it though. ;)

As others have said, we're all rooting for you and your Dubstep Tau! :D

05-07-2013, 10:19
Today has been a day not of failure, but of SPECTACULAR failure. I just...I don't even have enough facepalm to cover this. Let me give you a roll call of today's fail.

1. I accidentally shave off all my hair. Yeah. That was how the day started. I started off by going bald, and it went downhill from there.
2. I got all my goodies in the mail. This was fail masquerading as win, for it led to the rest of the fail hereafter.
3. I immediately stab myself with an exacto knife while trying to make some new channels in the plasma suit's shoulders.
4. I spend four hours breaking fiber optic wire before someone points out that it's much to heavy for this type of application
5. I shatter the Teddybear head while taking the wire out of it. At this point any sane mind would have recognized that it was "One of Those Days" and not gone any further.
6. I break 3 reed switches whilst prodding them to ascertain their properties.
7. I spend an hour trying to solder wires onto one LED. It still has no wires.
8. In my infinite wisdom, I grip a hot soldering iron like a pencil and burn the fingertips of my right hand. Because I am apparently that god damned stupid. There are now drips of solder all over the counter, all over the soldering iron stand, all over EVERYTHING except the LED. It is at this point that I realize that ambitious efforts are not to be undertaken today.

So now the soldering iron is cooling on the counter and the pain is starting to flood into my fingertips as I type this. "Why the hell are you typing with freshly burned fingers" you might ask. Penance, for I am penitent in my idiocy and the pain will remind me to stop doing anything potentially hazardous when everything has started going to hell. This is the point where you stop everything and just play video games for the rest of the night. NO! Not the one that autosaves your progress and you'll have to spend a week un-screwing the pooch. Safe games. Play Civilization or something until you're tired, then go to sleep. That is how you fight a day like this. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go clean the molten metal off of every conceivable surface.

Its hard not to say ROFL... :-) because... this did make me chuckle...

ITs not nice when you have 'one of those days' BUT... tommorrow will be a brighter day!

So to cheer you up... i thought I'd lay you down a new beat....




MY name is Daniel and I am a wargamer

05-07-2013, 19:35
@Bob: Actually, I would LOVE some soldering tips and tricks. One thing I know is that I need to find something I can use to hold onto the LEDs while I solder them, because I do not have three hands.

Everyone should feel free to laugh their asses off at my rampant idiocy. It's posted here because, well, damn. It's some epic good comedy. If anyone's wondering, I haven't been posting updates because the project is on hold due to me recovering from eye surgery. No, not another incident with the soldering iron (though I wouldn't put it past me), I went and got lasik done so I don't have to wear glasses anymore. For the next couple days, though, I kind of can't focus too well on tiny things until my eyes have finished healing. It's really hard to keep my hands off the plastic crack, even if i know it's for my own good. But I will be doing some various things in the mean time, like prepping a little bit on that Warhound titan I sometimes mention, and watching Youtube tutorials on soldering. Okay, eyeballs are starting to sting from looking at the screen even this long. I'm out for nowz.

05-07-2013, 19:36
@Bob: Actually, I would LOVE some soldering tips and tricks. One thing I know is that I need to find something I can use to hold onto the LEDs while I solder them, because I do not have three hands.

Everyone should feel free to laugh their asses off at my rampant idiocy. It's posted here because, well, damn. It's some epic good comedy. If anyone's wondering, I haven't been posting updates because the project is on hold due to me recovering from eye surgery. No, not another incident with the soldering iron (though I wouldn't put it past me), I went and got lasik done so I don't have to wear glasses anymore. For the next couple days, though, I kind of can't focus too well on tiny things until my eyes have finished healing. It's really hard to keep my hands off the plastic crack, even if i know it's for my own good. But I will be doing some various things in the mean time, like prepping a little bit on that Warhound titan I sometimes mention, and watching Youtube tutorials on soldering. Okay, eyeballs are starting to sting from looking at the screen even this long. I'm out for nowz.

05-07-2013, 23:26
Oh, good times. I decided I'd go ahead and do a little grunt work and start shaving chaos markings off of a defiler kit I plan to put to Imperial use, and first damn thing I do is hack off a small bit of my left index finger. This is why you shouldn't wield sharp implements whilst blinded. My poor abused hands...

06-07-2013, 09:34
Oh, good times. I decided I'd go ahead and do a little grunt work and start shaving chaos markings off of a defiler kit I plan to put to Imperial use, and first damn thing I do is hack off a small bit of my left index finger. This is why you shouldn't wield sharp implements whilst blinded. My poor abused hands...

Ouch x 100!
I understand the lure of plastic crack and I've also gone too far at times (such as being tired and tried to cut things and cutting fingers instead).
I really like this log but -for the sake of your own health- please leave the hobby alone for a little while until you get better?
Otherwise someone might have to come round and kitbash/scratchbuild you back together - lol.

Fingers crossed that you recover soon and am enjoying seeing your skills.

06-07-2013, 20:14
Eyes starting to heal pretty well, though I'm not yet up to working on my models. Been watching a few videos on how to properly solder on Youtube, and I've learned a few things that I think will help in the long run. However, I still don't have any kind of soldering stand or clamp thingy (very technical) and I'm unlikely to be able to get one any time soon. So what I'm going to try doing is something that worked for me when I was testing out my LEDs, which was actually coiling the wires tightly around the components as a method for attaching them. It's crude and imperfect, but it will let me get through this initial step at least on the first couple of guys. I'll try it out on a couple of LEDs and see if I can wire up a few of them in a workable circuit.

As for the fiber optics...damn. I don't even know what to do about that. Scratch that. The rational part of my brain knows exactly what to do: put the plastic crack down, forget about it for a month while I get new wires shipped to me from somewhere. But frankly, I wanna see these things get done so I can do my happy dance. Blarg. The good news is that I can try and finish up the Piranha at least, since that doesn't require any fiber optics. Between that and the box that should be arriving in a couple weeks with the riptides and the Broadside, I should be good on models to fiddle with until the wires arrive. Still, it sucks to have to shelve a project that was really coming together.

06-07-2013, 21:17
Take your time healing, don't push it. We can wait! So long as you keep up the excellent standard when you get back! Works out well for me because I can get a bunch of mine done and on the forum and not be shown up by your superior conversions! :D

07-07-2013, 02:50
How does one "accidentally" shave their head?

07-07-2013, 18:07
How does one "accidentally" shave their head?

By slipping on wet tiles while trimming my sideburns with the blade guard off. There was no fixing it, so I shaved the rest of my head and started over.

Ordered some Forge World for myself as a birthday present. A pair of tetras and Shas'O Ralai. That'll get here in a few weeks, and by then I'll be able to see right again.

09-07-2013, 01:57
Well, I had a productive shopping spree on Amazon tonight. I picked up heat shrink tubing, a soldering armature with little clamps and a roll of 0.3mm fiber optic wire (1/3 the diameter of what I was using). I feel that these are some major implements that I was missing in order to really continue this project effectively. Unfortunately, since Ramadan is going to kill the already sluggish productivity of Saudi workers, they won't be here for a while.So, I'm stuck in a rut as far as finishing my battlesuits, though I can certainly do some embellishments and general conversion work on the parts I have remaining. However, there just aren't very many of those parts left to do on the 3 suits I have. I might get that care package with all the other kits within the next 2 to 3 weeks, but again, no way to be sure because of Ramadan.

Okay, so, what can I do right now? Well, I can work on finishing up those other Fire Warriors, for starters. I think I have most of what I need to do that. Huh. Just realized I haven't even put up any pics of the WIPs other than the standard bearer. I'll have to get on that, because the guns that I've built for the unit are quite cool thus far, kind of a heavy carbine but it needs a longer barrel or a big muzzle attachment. You'll see what I mean. Okay, aside from the FW squad, I can finish the Piranha and probably also Shadowsun. I think that I'm going to have to upgrade her to a 40mm base just to make room for the battery and such. Tactically, it's not a great move because that will make her more unwieldy on the tabletop. But frankly I don't know how else I am going to get the battery under that base. And if something can take out the fully kitted Farsight Bomb squadron, then her base size won't be the culprit.

10-07-2013, 01:39
well done! subscribed!

10-07-2013, 01:58
What, REALLY? The seller on Amazon cancelled my order for the fiber optics. Apparently all their stock of this item was damaged somehow. Weird. I got a refund, but this does cut a few days off of the shipping and such as now I have to wait for an ebay seller to get around to mailing it out. Meh. I want my toys to hurry the hell up and get here.

Bob Hunk
10-07-2013, 15:00
@Bob: Actually, I would LOVE some soldering tips and tricks. One thing I know is that I need to find something I can use to hold onto the LEDs while I solder them, because I do not have three hands.

Ah, sorry for not getting around to replying sooner. I've added a basic soldering guide to the PCRC blog here (http://www.pcrc.org.uk/bob_hunk/blog/2013/07/10/working_leds_part.html), but I expect you've picked up a lot of these tips by now anyway. If you don't mind me asking, what sort of solder are you using?

Good call on the armature, I have one of those too, but often I find for speed and ease a big lump of blu tack works just as well! ;)

13-07-2013, 20:03
I'm back! Sort of. Well, here I am, anyway.

Okay, my vision is still doing this odd thing where every now and then I see three of everything out of one eye, and four of everything out of the other eye. I'm told this is normal somehow. With that bit of information, I hope you'll forgive me if I'm not keen to pick up the soldering iron and play 'guess which wire is the real one'. Hell, text on a computer screen is even a bit of an adventure. However, I have been taking a few tentative steps towards getting some units done, and I have for you a small progress update and a bit of how-to.

First, I know this isn't the most visually dynamic picture, but it should illustrate a very important concept: How to attach your battery holder to your base!
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130713_081359_zpsfbf85c1c.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130713_081359_zpsfbf85c1c.jpg.html)

Two wads of GS to give the thing a secure mooring, and the big gaps can be filled in later as I build up a base to cover the whole apparatus. Is it in crooked? Yes. Was it my first time trying this? Also yes. See the crack at the top of the base? That's where I accidentally sliced all the way through the outside when my knife slipped and had to tack it back together with a bit of GS. Shut up, it could happen to anyone!

Now, those metal bits sticking up are the battery leads, what I will be soldering my wires to when I want to run power from the battery to my LEDs. Small little things, as you can see, and not the sort of target I could hit right now. The plan, eventually, is to connect the two wires there and then run them immediately down into the base, twist them together, and bring them back up and into the model. I'm planning it this way because I'd rather conceal one wire than two, and once the assembly is buried under flock and debris nobody will notice the wire coming up out of the thin part of the base into the model's foot or what have you.

Oh! Very important note: Always put your battery into the holder when you are at this step. It will take up more space and force the clip out of the bottom, changing the dimensions and leading to wobbly model syndrome (dun dun DUUUNNNNNNN!!!!!) if you don't account for it.

Edit: Deleted the WIP pics of some fire warriors I was working on. Better, finished pics later on.

14-07-2013, 18:42
Went ahead and pledged on this kickstarter, half to show support for Chapterhouse and half because I wanted an Aegis Line for my army anyway, and this saves me a lot of work :3


16-07-2013, 01:14
I'm loving the Fire Warriors (XV11s I think you called them?) so far. The use of multi-trackers as backpacks is brilliant.
That said, a couple of changes I'd make:
1. Antennae on the helmets. You're right about the helmets fitting the Tau aesthetic, all except the lack of antennae. If you have spare Fire Warrior ones, see what they'd look like stuck on - could work?
2. Take the top piece of the guns. The bit from the bottom of the flamer that's not a targeting thing? I'd get rid of it. Those smooth barrels look amazing combined with the carbine bottoms, but the top piece just reminds you that it's a flamer. Without that you'd have people scratching their heads how you did the conversion, and I think it'd look cooler.

The only other thing I wonder about is the legs. They look a little dainty compared to the top half, but I'm not sure how I'd change that. It almost needs that extra thigh armour like on the Fireblade. Something like that to chunk them up a bit. Not sure what bits I'd use though - you're the king for that sort of thing!

Just my thoughts though. I've no doubt you'll make them look amazing whatever happens. :D

Oh and I know what you mean about slicing the carbines apart! I've done many a carbine/rifle conversion, and they're a proper pain!

16-07-2013, 19:07
^ What Lew said :D

16-07-2013, 20:27
@Lew and also Fold: You've got a good point about the flamer bit, but I think I can work around it. I'm going to first try and drill a hole through the center of it. I think that might give it more of an advanced sight look. If not, it'll get snipped off and I'll do something else. I've got these boxy targeter things off of Reaver jetbikes that I think will work perfectly as advanced optics. I'm also thinking of adding the tips of gauss flayer barrels to the end of the weapons. I'm not feeling the antennae as much on these. At least, not the regular fire warrior ones. I'm going to test out a few options and see what I end up liking most.

As for the legs, I agree with you guys 1000%. These are still a WIP, so I'm trying new bits out as I get them in the mail. Right now, I am thinking the groin armor plates from Assault Terminators will work to bulk out the legs, provided I clean off the skulls and such. Now, I also have the funny little spinal column bits from the Lychguard sprue, so I'm thinking of experimenting with one of the XV11's to see if there's a place for those. I mean, it seems like such a neat bit to add, but I have no idea where to put it. Heheh, giggity.

Now, I did manage to get a single successful solder done, and I have half a mind to do a tutorial called "Soldering, not for dummies but for the completely talentless." Now that I've got the method more or less correct (and I feel it's slightly clever how I managed to defeat my sheer incompetence), I've got the Piranha basically built and the wire run down through the hull towards the base. I've got a ridiculously long paper to write tonight, but if I get it finished I'll get a pic up of the Piranha. Right now, it's not modified at all but I'm brainstorming some embellishments like tail fins and bumper stickers. No idea what else to do with the hull, and I haven't seen many amazing Piranha conversions running around out there lol. Maybe I'll try something a bit more extreme with the second one, but for now this one is just going to be a test piece.

In a couple months my Gue'Vesa are going to start arriving piecemeal, courtesy of Raging Heroes' kickstarter (Got me some sexy-ass Jailbirds to represent the 41st Rynnish Boomsticks). I'll do those in a separate log, of course.

17-07-2013, 18:38
This post is all about the designing of the XV11 Diplomat battlesuit.

Here are some pics of progress I made the other morning after my shift ended. My vision was doing pretty well at the time, so I took some of the suggestions I'd been getting and threw in a dash of reckless experimentation. First I tried some experimentation about the little flamer bit. I took one trooper and first tried drilling through the "sight" and that just failed spectacularly. Looked really good from one single angle, and terrible at all others, go figure. After that I clipped off the top bit from the gun, and attached a muzzle piece I had clipped from one of the Lychguard shields. So then this happened:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130717_104213_zpsa38bafba.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130717_104213_zpsa38bafba.jpg.html)

Unfortunately, now it looks more like a short range little shotgun or, ironically, a kind of alien flamer. The sight on top bridging the gap between the flamer and carbine parts is a filed down scope from a reaver jetbike. I realized right away that I missed having that nozzle bit on top and that the muzzle I put on the gun is way too small. This represents a failed attempt at the gun, but the leg modification worked out. Those are the halves of the stealth burst cannon (cut a bit shorter) and used as hip plates kind of like the ones on samurai armor. I swear, I'm not out to create a samurai Tau army but it just keeps happening lol.

So I grabbed another Fire Warrior from the unit and I started experimenting some more. This is what happened when I attached the muzzle of the synaptic rifle from the necron Deathmarks (got one in a bits grab bag):
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130717_104307_zpsc0808112.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130717_104307_zpsc0808112.jpg.html)

Much, much better. I think we have a winner. With the barrel extended, the nozzle from the flamer does indeed look like a gun sight, and the weapon looks like it has serious range and stopping power. I like this modification, and I think I'm settled on it as the principal gun for the XV11 design, though now I'll have to order a whole batch of those necron rifles to complete the squad.

Now, here's another fun experiment. Check out this booty:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130717_104233_zps9e7850be.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130717_104233_zps9e7850be.jpg.html)

The hip plates bulk out the legs but I felt it needed something else below the multitracker. So I looked a the Lychguard sprue again and I saw those weird little spine bits, and then this happened:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130717_104846_zps4b4a6956.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130717_104846_zps4b4a6956.jpg.html)

And another angle:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130717_104911_zpsdf592d3e.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130717_104911_zpsdf592d3e.jpg.html)

Personally, I like it. I need to fill in some gaps around the point of attachment, but I think it works. I also looked at it with the tail curling outwards and it was cool looking, but it might have been a little too much.

And now...fluff!

The XV11 'Diplomat' battlesuit is a design currently in its infancy, but being deployed nonetheless by the Tau cadres aligned with Akira's 4th Company. Due to the increasingly hazardous political situation, the envoys of the Water Caste implored the Earth Caste fabricators and renegade Mechanicum elements to create a new form of battlesuit specifically suited to working alongside a diplomatic delegation. The XV11 Diplomat is a 'plug and play' half-suit designed to integrate with a slightly modified suit of standard Fire Caste combat armor. The advantage of this design philosophy over the development of a dedicated battlesuit is that a cadre of Diplomat-capable Fire Warriors can accompany a Water Caste envoy without appearing excessively aggressive or well armed. Should negotiations fail and the situation deteriorate, the bodyguards can rapidly don their Diplomat suits from man-portable carrying cases, which appear as nothing more than discreet briefcases. While the XV11 designs currently lack an inbuilt jetpack, they are designed with a wider profile to assist the wearer in covering his assigned envoy during a fighting retreat in close quarters, such as the one that occurred during the joygirl riot aboard the Recompense shortly after its departure from Bork'an (Seven Water Caste fatalities were reported, as well as one hundred cases of preventable venereal disease and the Ethereal lost his hat).

17-07-2013, 22:08
I like the fluff for the Diplomat suit. Sounds a bit like Iron Mans suit in Iron Man 2 that opens from the briefcase. Models look pretty wicked too

18-07-2013, 20:26
I like the fluff for the Diplomat suit. Sounds a bit like Iron Mans suit in Iron Man 2 that opens from the briefcase. Models look pretty wicked too

Exactly the image I had in mind lol. Situation escalating, pop the lock and open the case! Of course, there were early misfires with the deployment system. One Shas'la mistakenly packed his limited edition deluxe Por'vre doll, and when the briefcase was activated he was suffocated by hyper-realistic blue Simu-skin(tm).

Edit: Deleted a few WIP shots of the Broadside. I ended up changing the pose anyway so no big loss there.

18-07-2013, 20:42
Just had a great inspiration for a future broadside conversion. Since it's going to be an integrated army, I'm gonna have one of the broadsides being piloted by a Jailbird. I'm going to see if I can model it with the chest folding open to reveal a cockpit (I'll mock it up out of various bits) with one of the Jailbird girls inside. The pilot will be up out of her seat, with empty beer cans littering the cockpit floor, her pants around her ankles and mooning the enemy while she curses loudly at them over her shoulder. Think Braveheart but with battlesuits.

If I can get the cockpit design to work (step one, to see if the conversion can even be realized), I'll model the suit powered down, arms limp at its sides.

19-07-2013, 01:37
Wait let me get this straight...in a 40K game you want a female model to show her ass,have alcohol and curse at the enemy....BRILLIANT!!!!!

By the way cant wait to see the finished models

20-07-2013, 04:08
I wired up my broadside and Shadowsun, and both are awaiting the final adjustments to the whole setup, once I can once again properly feel my fingertips. My homegrown method of idiot proof soldering has done well and made some great LED connections.

So Shadowsun was successfully connected to her base.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130719_083042_zps451a067f.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130719_083042_zps451a067f.jpg.html)

Which is awesome. But then I went at it with the broadside. At first, there was a small success in that I had hollowed the head out completely and put an LED into it, facing out through the one cyclopean eye.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130719_084000_zpsa0767d5a.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130719_084000_zpsa0767d5a.jpg.html)

Here's the step by step of how to solder multiple LEDs to one battery.

Step one: Strip your wires. No pic for this but regardless of what type of wire you have you need to strip off the insulation.

Step two: Solder an end to something. I like to solder to the LED first. Gives me a good solid connection on a rather fiddly bit.

Step three: Solder the other end. Same damn thing on the other side.

Step four: acquire screwdriver.

Step five. Drink screwdriver. Vigorously.

Step six. And also the steps in between all the other ones. Test to make sure you didn't break all your LEDs and stuff.

Step seven. Break something and wonder what you broke for like an hour.

Step Eight: Spend three hours trying to repair the wrong thing.

Step nine: No pants.

Step ten: Figure out which side of which LED goes parallel to the other one.

Step eleven: Flail around uselessly as you try to connect the one to the other properly.

Okay, all that silliness aside. I had a ton of trouble trying to do this. But it didn't come down to soldering, that is of course until I broke my solder connections, like five times. All that was in the process of trying to track down the following problem. I broke my battery holder. I didn't know this at the time, but I did this weeks ago when I tried to clip the little metal leads on the holder down and make them flush. Nope. Not gonna happen. Don't try it. Seriously. Stop right there.

All I did was loosen the battery terminal in the holder, which translates into an enormous pain in the ass now. It wobbles. Not a terrible thing, unless the whole point of its existence is to stay steady and provide a constant connection. Now, when did I figure this out? After EVERYTHING was glued and soldered in place. So now I'm gonna try and fix it somehow. Probably with rope, because it always works in the movies. Charlie Bronson always has rope.

But wait, there's more! Act now and you can also make a tremendous noobish mistake. Wanna see?
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130719_092941_zpsb9d393fc.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130719_092941_zpsb9d393fc.jpg.html)

You're looking at the top of the broadside, which has been disassembled for wiring. Everything finally works! Both LEDs are on at the same time, running off the same battery. I've done it, I've...wait. Look again
at the picture. Look at the head. Look at the wire coming down from it. Now look down. At the neck hole, which those wires are certainly NOT running through.


Okay, deep breaths. Try not to hit the model with a hammer. Now, the logical thing to do would have been to simply clip it and start that part over. However, I was so frustrated at that point that logic wasn't on the menu. So instead, I drew my knife and I cut a bitch. I carved two channels into the neck, and it's a testament to how drunk I was at the time because I could have just carved one and then twisted it after and...whatever. I made room for the LED leads and I'm gonna try and just hide them under some GS or embellishments later. The important thing is that it works. Sort of. Eh.

On a side note, soldering is getting easier now that I have a method for it. Also, I got one of these:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130719_084029_zpsa39da200.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130719_084029_zpsa39da200.jpg.html)

I highly recommend this for anyone who is going to try this sort of thing. Soldering tiny components without it is ridiculously harder.

Asi the Red
20-07-2013, 05:16
It's really hard to read this log. Because it's so hilarious, and my computer is in the bedroom where my wife is sleeping... So instead of laughing riotously loud, I have to manage a laugh that is both riotous and utterly silent.

20-07-2013, 07:10
It's really hard to read this log. Because it's so hilarious, and my computer is in the bedroom where my wife is sleeping... So instead of laughing riotously loud, I have to manage a laugh that is both riotous and utterly silent.

I find that when I need to laugh hard but have to be quiet, a lot of frantic arm-waving substitutes for laugh volume. The sad thing is, all of this is true. I think that makes it funnier somehow.

Update: I am resolved to undo a small portion of the work I did, and scrap the broken battery holder. This will probably mean having to solder extra length onto the wires so that I can have more room to work and stuff. Also, when I glued the torso back onto the hips, I made a huge mistake in that I angled it slightly upwards. Now those super bright LEDs are pointed right up into the players' eyes, and they are blindingly bright. So, that too.

In other news, I saw a screen shot of the new Farsight supplement, and rules for a certain Commander Bravestorm. Can anyone say Riptide Commander?

20-07-2013, 16:26
Broadside, wired up and good to go. Draw!
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130720_125946_zps42466b0c.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130720_125946_zps42466b0c.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130720_125957_zps220241f6.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130720_125957_zps220241f6.jpg.html)

Thos missile racks are from the IG Sentinel kit, with the skulls and rivets filed off. I went through all the trouble of pulling out the battery holder and then finally figured out what was wrong with it. The clip that holds the battery in place was bent outwards slightly, allowing the battery to wobble in the holder and that was making the connection unreliable. I bent it back inward and it seems to be working well now.

From this angle, you can see the light leaking out of the neck and torso:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130720_130016_zpsc9cb339c.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130720_130016_zpsc9cb339c.jpg.html)
When I went all Freddy Kruger on the joint there to get the LED in, it messed up the seal and so now I have to go back through and fill in the openings with GS.

So, coming back around to what I was talking about in a previous post, I've been thinking about how I would go about creating the suit for the drunk mooning girl. My inspiration comes mostly from this pic:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/battlesuitcopy_zps1ef10de7.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/battlesuitcopy_zps1ef10de7.jpg.html)
Sort of like that, but with a human girl, and angrier, and her ass is hanging out. And there's probably waffles involved, because I'm hungry and waffles sound awesome right now.

Speaking of hungry, I don't get to buy any new models until I lose ten pounds. I mean, sure, I've got those forgeworld models coming in the mail anyway. And the stuff I already have to finish. But...yeah. I'm gonna try and drop 20 or so before I go to Thailand in a couple months.

21-07-2013, 19:48
Dammit. I already posted this but it got lost in the interwebs. Okay, after I finished on the Broadside I decided to revisit Shadowsun and see if i couldn't get her squared away. I already had the wires run through it and the base built and the Scibor bit hollowed out for the connection, so it was just a matter of sliding it all together after I had soldered the last bits.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130721_200040_zps2cec579d.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130721_200040_zps2cec579d.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130721_195957_zps8ea5f4b5.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130721_195957_zps8ea5f4b5.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130721_200002_zpsba13ae2c.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130721_200002_zpsba13ae2c.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130721_200018_zpsd9960220.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130721_200018_zpsd9960220.jpg.html)
I need to adorn that jetpack assembly with something to break up the empty space.

A note to my future self: When you realize that you screwed everything up, remember that the backpack is only glued on at this seam:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130721_200031_zps2ae95238.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130721_200031_zps2ae95238.jpg.html)

Also, I told you so about the thing with the donkey and the Thai ladyboy. Okay, bye future self.

Once I was done, I lined up my three completed battlesuits for a size comparison. So here's the XV11, Shadowsun and the Broadside:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130721_195944_zpsf20f7c2e.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130721_195944_zpsf20f7c2e.jpg.html)
And another angle for the lens flare effect :3
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130721_195931_zps12617fa1.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130721_195931_zps12617fa1.jpg.html)

22-07-2013, 00:11
This post should serve as a prelude to an future one about what an incredibly bad idea this one was. Why, you ask, if I already know that I will one day know that this was a terrible plan, do I still proceed with this plan?

Because I already put this plan into motion...30 seconds ago. Watchmen reference!

So I'm shopping around for battery holders, and believe me, it's a bigger pain for me over here in Saudi than it would be for anyone else reading this log. You guys can go down to a local hobby store and pick up some new stuff. I have to find a retailer or a wholesaler or a guy on ebay and order a product I've never seen and hope it ever gets here in one piece, and more often than not it ends up being utterly worthless to me when it arrives. Remember, things like this coin cell holder were designed for PC boards, not miniature bases. 99% of all products in this category are totally unsuited to this applications for an all you can eat buffet of very good reasons. Too tall, wrong shape, absurdly expensive, wrong orientation, and half the time they have herpes. Meanwhile, they charged $30 for shipping on a 2oz packet. Ridiculous. So when I found a guy selling these particular items on Amazon in lots of 10 for only $3 with free shipping, I was skeptical. To say the least.

Didn't stop me from buying all three lots he had for sale. I mean, come on. 30 of these things were less expensive than just the shipping cost for a single one of any other variety. Less than $10? Hell, I spend that on lunch. Yes, that might be why I'm a fatass. Shut up. Imma go eat brownies til I feel better!


So now those will get here when they get here. But if you follow the link above and take a look at them, you can see that these particular holders have some advantages for this particular application. One think you have to look for is a holder that allows easy access to the battery, and the ones I've been using (Keystone model 103) are alright for that, but they can be a total pain to get the cell out of (basically you need a pair of needle nose pliers to get them out, annoying and the excess force required can damage your models). Now, these ones seem to have a flexible section of the casing that allows you to actually get a proper grip on the cell instead of reaching into your toolbox. My go-to guy for my noobish questions, the illustrious Bob_Hunk of PCRC fame, recommended to me the Keystone 106, which is virtually identical to the one I currently use. When these new ones get here, they might end up being the perfect component or a total waste of lunch money. No clue, but I'll let you folks know and it will probably involve a lot of creative cursing.

Bob Hunk
22-07-2013, 12:53
These are really starting to come together now! :cool: Don't feel bad about soldering the wire before putting them through the hole, we've all done that at some point or other. ;)

Didn't stop me from buying all three lots he had for sale. I mean, come on. 30 of these things were less expensive than just the shipping cost for a single one of any other variety. Less than $10? Hell, I spend that on lunch. Yes, that might be why I'm a fatass. Shut up. Imma go eat brownies til I feel better!


That does seem like a bargain, I'll be interested to hear if they were as advertised. :)

the illustrious Bob_Hunk of PCRC fame

The first and only time I'll be referred to as "illustrious" I suspect. ;)

24-07-2013, 15:31
Fiber optics arrived in the mail today. Man, they are TINY strands. The roll itself is pretty small, so I don't know if I have quite enough to do the wh9ole project. However, this should be enough to get me through the initial batch of suits.

24-07-2013, 20:04
The first and only time I'll be referred to as "illustrious" I suspect.

Go on, enjoy it while it lasts. Go to a bar and claim VIP status and everything. Be like, "Do you know who I am?!?"

Okay, so here's the new fiber optics next to the old stuff for a size comparison.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130724_204542_zps519745dc.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130724_204542_zps519745dc.jpg.html)

Now, there are good things and bad things about this stuff. First, the good. It is REALLY flimsy and easy to bend, and will fit into damn near any small space because it's only .3mm thick. Unfortunately, that's also the bad. You see, these only end up emitting a tiny pinprick of light, not exactly eye catching and it doesn't fill up the holes I drilled for the other wires.

Now, there are a couple of possible ways to go about fixing this, and I'm going to experiment on the thicker wires first because I have so much more of it and it's more or less useless to me right now.

Option 1: I'm going to test out a hybrid setup. Stick the thicker wire into the pre-drilled hole, but only just the tip. Then I'll run a few strands of the smaller wire from the light source all the way up to where the thick wire terminates inside the gun barrel. Now, in theory, this should transfer all the collected light from one strand to another.

Option 2: Stuff it. The least complicated of the options but more than likely doomed to failure. I simply take three or four of the new wires and stuff them into the holes I drilled for the originals. There's a chance it could work, I guess. More than likely one or more of the strands will get hung up or kinked and the whole plan will fall apart.

Option 3: Purge it with fire! One thing I've been curious to experiment with is the way these wires are supposed to expand with heat. Hold a lighter near it (but not in contact with the flame) and the end of the wire will expand. I have no practical experience with this method yet, but I soon will. And then I will also have practical experience with the burn ward.

So here I have outlined three possible opportunities for serious personal injury and I intend to fully explore all of them. Now, something I've been noticing is that I can run two LEDs of the same color off of a single battery, which is really nice because I can do a small one for the head and a bigger one for the chest. I'm going to experiment to see if I can run different colors as well, get a more diverse effect from my suits.

Speaking of which, I think I need to really cut down on the blinding light being shed by this army. I've got some Gundam accessory bits I bought from Kotobukiya that I think will let me sheath some of the bare LEDs (like Shadowsun's blinding headlamp) and confine the light to a less offensive field of view.

Update on the Support Suit. I've got a bunch of the Necron green rods and some appropriate "emitter" tips to tack onto the shoulders. Work is commencing on that project, but it's slow moving and requires a lot of experimentation.

Alright, so what's next? I think I'm going to start with the Plasma Suit and get it up and running, now that I finally have every single component. I still have some posing work to do, but I think the guns will be simpler than the double Fusion barrels. Might even get started later tonight, or wait til tomorrow night since Friday is the start of the Saudi weekend and it'll be a quiet time for me.

Bob Hunk
25-07-2013, 15:47
So here I have outlined three possible opportunities for serious personal injury and I intend to fully explore all of them. Now, something I've been noticing is that I can run two LEDs of the same color off of a single battery, which is really nice because I can do a small one for the head and a bigger one for the chest. I'm going to experiment to see if I can run different colors as well, get a more diverse effect from my suits.

Different colour LEDs are likely to have different forward current values. If they are significantly different then you may run into a few problems. If connecting them in parallel doesn't work then try series, although you will of course need higher voltages (a combination of the Vf values of all the LEDs in the circuit) and hence probably more batteries for series circuits. :)

26-07-2013, 00:06
Different colour LEDs are likely to have different forward current values. If they are significantly different then you may run into a few problems. If connecting them in parallel doesn't work then try series, although you will of course need higher voltages (a combination of the Vf values of all the LEDs in the circuit) and hence probably more batteries for series circuits. :)

I haven't quite gotten around to testing this idea out yet. My thought is that if they don't work with a quick test in a parallel arrangement, then I'll scrap the idea entirely and go back to single colored lights in each suit. I already have enough trouble running multiple LEDs of one type within the confines of a Tau suit.

Small update. Before work today I managed to rig up the battery base for the Roid Suit and also cut some tubing down to create a partial screen for the chest LEDs. Now they won't be so blinding to onlookers. Also came up with a good way to add extra armor to the legs so they don't look all spindly and stupid. I really wish I could attach the legs without having to put the whole body assembly together

Update to the Update: Did some fudging around with the different colored LEDs, and the result is a bit strange, but cool nonetheless. I can run multiple colors of LEDs off one battery, but only certain color combinations. I didn't have time to run a full test to see which ones worked with which, but I did find that my whites and blues worked together. Now the question is how many of each will work, and how many in total I can fit inside the chest of the crisis suit.The ideal number is 4. One for each arm, one for the head and one for the chest.

29-07-2013, 00:29
Well, my internet has been a pain in the ass lately so I havent updated with all my little steps forward. I found a few combos of LED colors that work, and I'm setting my sights on wiring up a few different circuits to try different possible configurations. Yellow and green worked together, for instance, so I started working on the Support Suit figuring that I'd use Yellow for the eyes and green for the shoulder things. I found that if I sand the necron green rods with rough grit sand paper then it diffuses the light put into it and basically makes the whole rod light up when an LED is shined in one end. I still haven't found a version of that idea that looks good. Still trying.

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I also took some step by step pictures of another part of my process, the idiot prrof soldering method I mentioned before. What I do is after I strip the enamel off the wire, I then wrap the wire around the LED lead.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130727_150011_zps646935c4.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130727_150011_zps646935c4.jpg.html)

Once that's done, I scrunch the wire down into a little tangle.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130727_150352_zps776e3ca7.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130727_150352_zps776e3ca7.jpg.html)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130727_154338_zps305fd553.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130727_154338_zps305fd553.jpg.html)

With it set up like that, you knd of can't avoid getting the solder stuck in that tangled mess. It results in a solid, if somewhat messy bond between the components.

From there, the next thing I did was stuff that LED into one end of a piece of heat shrink.

Then I clipped off a couple lengths of fiber optic wire and stuck them down there. Did they stay in place? HELL NO. So I figured, let me just squirt some gel super glue down in there. What could go wrong? Well, they stuck and they stayed stuck, which was good.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130727_143141_zps11ada634.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130727_143141_zps11ada634.jpg.html)

But then when I applied some gentle heat from a soldering iron to the heat shrink, and it subsequently shrunk, this happened.


Now, that was alarming to say the least. I was all, wtf is that? Thankfully it was just the glue that got squeezed up out of the tube. Ick. That's just nasty.

Alright, now that we get to the subject of heat (which I am woefully inept at handling), let me show you how I screwed up.

Earlier, I was playing around with a lighter trying to get the ends of the wires to expand, and while it worked, I also ended up with this happening:


On the one hand, WTF?!? On the other hand, heyyyyyyyyyyyy......that's a much more extreme angle than I had been able to make it bend up til now without it snapping or kinking. And it still conveyed light perfectly. See that nub on the end? That's what happens when the tip is exposed to heat, it expands. And of course, the whole set up seems to lose its rigidity after heat is applied, allowing for easy bending.

So now that I found this out, I decided I was going to apply it to the Tumor head wires. The first five times, I merely snapped off the tips of the wires that I was working on. Then I got smart, see? I was like, why dont I just put the soldering iron at the base of it and make it easier to bend? Brilliant!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130727_152657_zpsfc635880.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130727_152657_zpsfc635880.jpg.html)

Until the whole thing melted through and snapped off.


So then I'm all like screw you wires! And I kicked them and it broke a few things and then I had to fix stuff so shut up. I need to buy a special dunce cap for these situations. So now I'm working on just shoving a 3mm LED up into the neck hole, and in doing so I managed to carve a big gash along one side of the eye hole. Bloddy hell. Thankfully I have some generic cicular thingies from the kotobukiya sprues and I can use that to cover up my sheer, inimitable idiocy.

I keep bringking my whole project to work with me in a shopping bag but I never get around to actually setting up shop. I'm gonna try that tomorrow and see if I can get some real progress made.

Bob Hunk
29-07-2013, 09:40
Small update. Before work today I managed to rig up the battery base for the Roid Suit and also cut some tubing down to create a partial screen for the chest LEDs. Now they won't be so blinding to onlookers.

Have you considered filling the eye gaps/chest holes with a small blob of clear epoxy resin? It might dull the LEDs enough to make looking at them a bit more bearable. This is definitely something to try on one of your test models first though....

Update to the Update: Did some fudging around with the different colored LEDs, and the result is a bit strange, but cool nonetheless. I can run multiple colors of LEDs off one battery, but only certain color combinations. I didn't have time to run a full test to see which ones worked with which, but I did find that my whites and blues worked together.

As mentioned, this will be more to do with their forward current values than the actual colours; the ones with comparable I(f) values are probably the ones that are working together. :)

I'm looking forward to seeing some more pictures. :cool:

29-07-2013, 14:49
wow, just wow. if only i had that kind of patience, keep up the great work.

29-07-2013, 15:12
@Bob Hunk: I'm not sure where exactly I'd get the clear epoxy stuff, but maybe that will work. One thing I know works is to drop a big dollop of gel superglue into the hole with the LED. It dulls the light pretty well but you still get the glow effect, just not too fierce. The shields I'm putting on them right now are mostly just designed to stop an excess of light from shining upward, into the players' eyes. I still want the lights to be bright as hell, just not right at my face. Also, I can totally dig the whole v(f)mx(Z21)...stuff. I just can't keep track of all the abbreviations and formula stuff. I've always been hella good at math, until it starts looking like that. So I'm just keeping track of it by size and color and such. Much easier for me lol.

@Thrawn: Normally I don't have anywhere near this kind of patience. However, I'm stuck out here in the frakking desert with absolutely nothing to do to keep me sane. And having a girlfriend is illegal here. No, I'm not kidding. Seriously. Sharia Law, all up in here.

Also, Woot! 100 replies!

Bob Hunk
30-07-2013, 08:45
Ah yes sorry to clarify I meant a clear epoxy like Araldite (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Araldite-Instant-Syringe-24ml-ARA400012/dp/B006JYQ1I6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375173867&sr=8-2&keywords=araldite+instant), but it sounds like you've already achieved the same thing with gel super glue, so disregard. ;)

30-07-2013, 17:29
Ah yes sorry to clarify I meant a clear epoxy like Araldite (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Araldite-Instant-Syringe-24ml-ARA400012/dp/B006JYQ1I6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375173867&sr=8-2&keywords=araldite+instant), but it sounds like you've already achieved the same thing with gel super glue, so disregard. ;)

You know, I've seen syringes like that at the hardware store right next to the plumber's putty I use to do my bases, another 2-part epoxy (though it dries in various shades of gray). So, what's the consistency like on that stuff? Liquid, paste, gel? How long does it take to cure? What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? WHERE HAS THAT FINGER BEEN?!?

Okay, that's enough questions for now. Besides, I already know the tactical disposition of that finger. *shudder*

I'm actually considering a trip to SACO to pick up a tube of that stuff. I'll have to go there anyway for more glue and putty and such, and perhaps another 12 air fresheners because Saudi drains cough up clouds of horrible poo-gas all the time. I think that my Forge World order is going to arrive pretty soon. Maybe even in next week's mail run. Kind of wondering exactly how big or how many parts O'Rly comes in.

30-07-2013, 20:28
Kind of wondering exactly how big or how many parts O'Rly comes in.

If you like, I can take a pic tomorrow of mine compared to a standard battlesuit. If I recall correctly, the body only came in a couple of pieces, legs are three pieces each. I'll double-check in the morning and add a picture of my assembled one.

30-07-2013, 21:28
Thanks Carlo. I'd be interested to see a side by side comparison. I will say that I'm very glad teh legs come in multiple pieces. That means I can pose it pretty easily. Probly. Anyway, mail came today and I got a bunch of stuff from Kotobukiya and Bandai, all gundam accessory bits. There were even some neat clear resin bits, muzzle flashes and the like. I figured they would be awesome combined with my LEDs. Unfortunately, when they arrived they turned out to be on a much, much bigger scale lol. Still, maybe I can cut them down to size?

Bob Hunk
31-07-2013, 08:42
So, what's the consistency like on that stuff? Liquid, paste, gel?

Once you've mixed the two parts together it's a very viscous paste.

How long does it take to cure?

The standard stuff takes a couple of hours, the "instant" stuff takes a couple of minutes.

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

An African or European swallow? ;)

31-07-2013, 16:35
Here is a picture of what I accomplished today.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/581503_634063436611936_698430617_n_zps15702776.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/581503_634063436611936_698430617_n_zps15702776.jpg .html)

That is the more-or-less finalized arm assembly of the Fusion Suit. Right arm, in case you're wondering. I made a command decision based on the fact that I could not conceive of a scenario in which I successfully threaded two different fiber optic wires through the arms into the barrels of each fusion blaster.Instead of actually trying to negotiate this nightmare of a plan, I sliced off the twin nozzles on the blaster that I had already hollowed out, and drilled into it so that I would have a single larger barrel. One of the bits I got from Bandai was a sprue of these clear lens type thingies with plastic mounts. They look pretty cool when put together. You can see the mounting for it in the above pic, to the left of the rest of the pieces. That's replacing the dual nozzles for the Fusion Blaster, and I went ahead and just put a white 1.5mm LED into the barrel instead of mucking about with the fiber optics. I've already lost too much time fiddling with that crap, and I want to have some finished products for this log. So this suit is going to have 4 LEDs total. I have the chest and head ones wired together, and I'm going to branch the other two for the arms off of the head one just because it seems tidy that way. Frak. I'll put up a picture or twelve of the inner workings when it's all stuck in place.

I'm kind of excited here, actually finishing one of my crisis suits in the very near future. I may have to do a victory dance.

Okay, it wouldn't be a proper update without news of my rampant idiocy. You know how when you're working on a paper or a math problem and you've got your pen/pencil in your hand and you're all like "Hmmmm, what if I...." and then you maybe tap the end of that writing utensil on your chin? Yeah. Don't do that with a soldering iron. You can if you want, but I've seen that movie and I know how it ends.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/images_zps58df03ec.jpeg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/images_zps58df03ec.jpeg.html)

I just went full retard.

31-07-2013, 17:37
Here's two photos, the first shows O'Ralai alongside a regular battlesuit.


The second is a close-up of O'Ralai.


The legs come in three parts (foot, shin, thigh). The body is one solid block of resin, with the two small jet packs, hips and small head being seperate. The head has no movement, as it slots straight onto the raised mounts.

31-07-2013, 17:47
Ooookay...I'm still trying to figure out if you are a madman or a genius. :D that's an aweful lot of conversions. But they are also insanely awesome. You are hereby subscribed, mate. ;)


31-07-2013, 20:29
Ewwwwww....I'm not to keen on the idea of the O'Rly torso being one solid resin block. Not sure how I'm going to do anything with that. Although, I've found that resin is much easier to excavate than plastic, though I haven't ever worked with the FW resin specifically. Maybe I can go in at the pelvis, cut a clean slice right above the crotch section. That'll let me go straight up into the torso and excavate the whole thing, or at least enough for me to get an LED shining out of the thing's chest or eyes. Or maybe one coming out of the shield? Idk, that might be more trouble than it's worth.

Here's the problem I'm having with this model. I want to do something crazy with it, but I know I shouldn't. This is likely to be the HQ that sits on the shelf forever and doesn't make it into my tournament lists. So the crazy, ca-ray-zee stuff needs to be saved for a guy who will actually be on the table all the time. I want to build a suit that's landing hard on at least one assault marine in mid-air and riding him like a surf board. Maybe I'll do that for O'Rly after all. Not sure yet.

Edit: Did...did you know that Hasslefree makes a TARDIS miniature in 40k scale, along with multiple versions of the Doctor? This project just got a little more timey-wimey. Concept sketch for a future plasma suit:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/1_zpse11c4c97.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/1_zpse11c4c97.jpg.html)

01-08-2013, 18:08
Good things happened today. Good things, man.

First up is a few shots of my two completed suits so you can see how I'm basing my models. Up first is the Broadside.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130801_164406576x1024_zps7e5fa9a9.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130801_164406576x1024_zps7e5fa9a9.jpg.html)

Since the last pic I added antenna to the head and a crux terminates to the chest. At this point I can't see where I'd add more embellishments so this is pretty much finished now except for paint.

And a rear view so you can see how well the battery holder is blended in:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130801_164448576x1024_zps49480d32.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130801_164448576x1024_zps49480d32.jpg.html)

That little strut piece I put on the leg to cover up the wire is from the...um...I don't really know. Either a Sentinel or an Immolator, I think. It was in my box. Whatever. The bases are going to be painted dark grays with some bluish tones to them, an urban ruinscape to match the rest of my forces across multiple armies.

Now Shadowsun:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130801_164535576x1024_zps7f2d3006.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130801_164535576x1024_zps7f2d3006.jpg.html)
You can see in this pic the tubular bit I used to shield the LED in the central eye. It looks more finished with something in her gaping hole. Giggity. Anyway, a rear shot:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130801_164547576x1024_zps8623c5a3.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130801_164547576x1024_zps8623c5a3.jpg.html)
From here you can see the base detail and also the bits I stuck onto the jetpack to break up the empty space and cover some mistakes.

Alright, this is what my fusion arm assembly looke like yesterday:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/581503_634063436611936_698430617_n_zps15702776.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/581503_634063436611936_698430617_n_zps15702776.jpg .html)

This is what it looks like all joined together:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130801_152650576x1024_zps1acc1529.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130801_152650576x1024_zps1acc1529.jpg.html)

I added those two plates to the side, partially to bulk out the arm a bit and partly because, well........I'll get to that in a minute. Let me just bask in this glorious moment of actual achievement before I start reliving my inevitable failures, dammit!

And speaking of glorious...
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130801_152831576x1024_zps1f7a5b02.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130801_152831576x1024_zps1f7a5b02.jpg.html)

Ooooh yeah that's sexy.

01-08-2013, 18:50
Now then, about that heaping dose of FAIL. Here's my revised method in a nutshell, just hollowing out the entire barrel of the fusion blaster and shoving an LED in the end of it:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130801_143825576x1024_zps9fa8d5db.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130801_143825576x1024_zps9fa8d5db.jpg.html)

Now, this second one I decided I wasn't going to go to the trouble of slicing the barrel in half vertically and I just drilled straight in and excavated the whole thing in one piece. Hey, it worked pretty damn well until I got to the main body of the gun, and then this happened:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130801_141923576x1024_zpsa8cf3ca3.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130801_141923576x1024_zpsa8cf3ca3.jpg.html)

It's hard to see in this picture but the whole casing just popped and fractured along this side when the drill bit made its way in there. I said to myself, oh, well that's not so bad. It'll be on the inside surface right next to the body. Nobody'll notice. Wait...hold on. Which arm is this going on? Son. Of. A. BITCH!!!

Okay, no worries, I can fix this. I just need...um...how about a splint?
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130801_142259576x1024_zps4bd92942.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130801_142259576x1024_zps4bd92942.jpg.html)

And since I did it on one gun, I had to keep the symmetry and do it on the other. Hence the one on the other gun. So then I threaded the wires in through the shoulders of the Roid Torso and gave it a quick look:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130801_160133576x1024_zpsd84a91df.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130801_160133576x1024_zpsd84a91df.jpg.html)

I popped it back apart because I knew there was absolutely no way n hell I could solder it all with the jetpack in the way. This next one is actually one of my favorite pics:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130801_163048576x1024_zps4869e075.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130801_163048576x1024_zps4869e075.jpg.html)

I know, it's not super detailed, but I love the similarity between this and something like the Mech Bay in MechWarrior or some other giant robot simulator, where your mech is all disassembled and its guts are being worked on. I mainly took this pic to conjure up incontrovertible proof that all 4 LEDs are lit at once! Shazaaam!!!!

Now comes a tremendous headache part--stuffing it all down into the torso and getting it situated:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130801_163934576x1024_zps905b7096.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130801_163934576x1024_zps905b7096.jpg.html)

Now comes the part where I have to secure the central chest LED, one of the larger 3mm ones, into the hole I drilled in the chest plate. I kind of over-squeezed the glue and wound up with a big pile of gel in the chest and now it's taking forever to dry. I tried holding it there for like five minutes straight and it just popped back out. Damn, what I wouldn't give for a can of zip kicker right now, but I can't order it due to international shipping restrictions. Blarg! I only had a few minutes til my shift started, so I had to rig something up and so then this happened:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130801_165229_zpsc75b6db8.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130801_165229_zpsc75b6db8.jpg.html)

I balanced my hobby knife on the LED, while the body was held by the clamp and the handle of the knife leaned against a big water bottle. The slightest nudge to the table would destroy this in a spectacular crash, but I managed to avoid screwing up in that particular idiom. It's been a few hours now, so I think it will be cured and stuck when I go check in a few minutes. If it's stuck in place, then I'm almost finished with this suit!

01-08-2013, 19:15
I have bad new, really really really good news, good news, bad news, good news again, and then bad news again. The bad news is, when I stopped back at my room and checked the model, I noticed that I had left the soldering iron plugged in for hours unattended. Holy freaking crap! The really really really good news is that my utter retardation did not burn my villa down. Now, the good news is that the LED was stuck in place. Bad news? Well...I went to squish all the wires down and put the whole thing together, when I hear "sproing." Yes, spring. The bane of all things. Sproing is the sound of a wire, one unknown wire out of many, somewhere, snapping.


Deep breaths. Don't throw the model. Don't urinate aggressively on the model. Don't declare yourself the king of no pants and try to carve out an empire among the stray cats in the compound. No. This can be fixed, and that's the other good news. It was relatively easy to track down which wire broke, because the whole circuit lost power. So, it was one of the ones leading to the battery. That's also the other bad news I can see the loose connection, it's still in place, but I sure as hell can't get to it. Not without yanking the whole thing out, which will probably beak something and force me to start all over again on the circuit. Now, I think I might be able to get to it with the soldering iron, but I might melt part of the inside of my crisis suit. That's actually okay, as long as it doesn't melt the whole outside as well. Per a friend's request, I'm going to have a my phone recording the attempt just n case it explodes or I burn off my junks or something. It would have to go on youtube, of course.

Okay. I got this. I can do this. Oh crap I'm going to fail horribly.

EDIT: I managed to fix the connection by inexpertly globbing solder all over the place. Just slathering it on there like butter on...some kind of a flimsy metal bagel or something, I don't know. Whatever. It's sloppy, it's silver, it partially melted my battlesuit, but damn it I managed to get it in there alright. Power is restored to the suit and all 4 LEDs are firing at once. While I was at it, I glued the head onto the corresponding LED and affixed it to the neck, closed the whole thing up and then stuck legs on it...poorly. I hadn't quite realized what I was doing with regard to the legs, and while I sort of have them in the right positions, I need to go back, probably cut the feet off and reposition them. Also think I need to rethink the entire scenic portion of the base. I'm gonna just chop that whole piece of scenery off and see if one of the other ones from that kit is a better fit for the pose I had in mind. The legs are a little wider than the base, so I'm gonna see if I can extend it a bit with scenery.

When I initially set out to do one of these massive conversion armies, I hadn't quite counted on how much time would be spent fixing mistakes.

03-08-2013, 14:48
Those are cool as heck. It'll be interesting to see them painted.

03-08-2013, 19:18
I am incredibly hung over. Made the mistake of power drinking after having eaten nothing all day, and forgot that months of sobriety have left me without any tolerance. I may, and this is not yet confirmed, may have vomited absolutely everywhere. With the headache I have now, staring into LEDs was about the worst thing I could do, but I wanted to get something done on this project today and so I did.

Today I finished the build on the fusion suit and put it on the base, got the whole thing wired up and more or less finished aside from a couple small details to fix. I tested it at every step along the way. All 4 LEDs worked at every single step, and then as soon as I solder the wires to the battery terminals, the central LED stops working. Huh? Now, I stared at that model long and hard while I tried to convince myself that it would be "easy" to crack the thing open and fish out the LED, but sanity won out and I didn't completely destroy this thing to try in vain to fix one LED. So here is the more or less completed Fusion suit:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130803_191500_zpsb5493d5d.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130803_191500_zpsb5493d5d.jpg.html)

I got a couple more angles, once photobucket stops sucking. It's actually not photobucket, just the crap-tastic Saudi internet that's being a pain in the ass.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130803_191447_zps6ca73a08.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130803_191447_zps6ca73a08.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130803_191514_zps7feca96b.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130803_191514_zps7feca96b.jpg.html)

I still have a few things to do here. I need to base it and put a FW shoulder pad on the leg with the wires, and those two things combined will help hide all the gubbins. Second thing I'm gonna need to do is go through and fill in all the gaps where light is shining through. So around the neck, the guns, and really anywhere I happen to see it. This sort of thing is probably my least favorite part of modeling, all that finishing stuff that takes forever and makes the model look more professional.

Also, noticed something funny. As soon as it was soldered, the battery holder began having that same loose wobbling problem that the other one did. Maybe it's the heat from the soldering that causes this problem? I have no clue at the moment.

04-08-2013, 18:32
Built a prototype of a new gun drone variant today using a gauss blaster and a fire warrior backpack. Posting this from my phone because my laptop is having connection issues. Edit: Laptop still being a pain but I can post pics now.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130804_110203_zps1b7ba260.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130804_110203_zps1b7ba260.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130804_110146_zpsc74e2e67.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130804_110146_zpsc74e2e67.jpg.html)

The piece that mounts the carbines on the drone is still on there, it's just pretty well hidden in these pics.

This design is very threatening looking and I currently have enough of those gauss blasters from a bits trade to outfit 5 or 6 drones, which I think is most of the drones I currently have. What I don't have enough of are those antennae, but I think I can scrounge those up pretty easily and cheaply.

The lights in my villa are acting up, so these pics required a lot of flash to show any details. The fusion suit is also based and finished with all the gaps suitably filled and mistakes sorta repaired. There was a pic, but now I can't find it. Screw it, I'll find it eventually.

Finally I have started putting the finishing touches on the piranha. Briefly flirted with the idea of mounting a tech priest surfing on it but the model is too small and it looked awkward. At some point though, there will be a dude screaming "****** YOUUUUUU, I'M A TECH PRIEEEEEEEEEST!" I may end up putting some hot naked Tau chick riding on it, once some minis I ordered from Hasslefree arrive. Yes, when I ordered my TARDIS I also ordered a bunch of naked chicks. It's Hasslefree, what did you expect?

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130804_105542_zps82466952.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130804_105542_zps82466952.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130804_105604_zps02c20e67.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130804_105604_zps02c20e67.jpg.html)

What I've done here is put what amounts to a spoiler on it. I'm seeing this thing as the equivalent of a Honda Civic owned by a teenager. It's a crappy vehicle with only the least expensive after market additions tacked on with no care given to overall aesthetics or taste in general. I'd like to add one or two other small embellishments to it, and call it a day. As for the LED, it's mounted on the bottom for some cheap ground effects. I'm stuck on the issue of the battery holder. It's going to be visible regardless of where I put it. If I mount it in the base, then there will be a very obvious wire hanging down, plainly visible. The alternative that I'm considering is mounting the battery holder on the ventral surface of the aft portion of the chassis. Battery booty. Yes, it's just as or even more visible that way, but somehow it seems like less of a faux pas than having that dangling wire. In any event, I have to wait til I have more battery holders before actually forging onward.

04-08-2013, 21:48
Gotta say this is some impressive stuff mate, love the work with the battlesuits.

Certainally gonna be keeping an eye on this thread. :D

Bob Hunk
05-08-2013, 09:58
Wow, the fusion suit looks great! :cool:

Also, noticed something funny. As soon as it was soldered, the battery holder began having that same loose wobbling problem that the other one did. Maybe it's the heat from the soldering that causes this problem? I have no clue at the moment.

Hmmm, if you've spent a long time soldering onto the tags on top of the battery holder then you couldn't have heated the metal components of the holder to a high enough temperature to partially melt the surrounding plastic.

05-08-2013, 16:54
Fusion suit is finished and based, all the "leaks" plugged with GS. Unfortunately, some light does penetrate the GS...the LEDs are that powerful!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130804_080759_zpsae15bb72.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130804_080759_zpsae15bb72.jpg.html)

I'm getting a little over-excited for my models to get here from the TGG kickstarter. Of course, those won't come for a couple of months at least, and they'll be arriving in waves. Suffice it to say, I'm going to have to find a different site to host that blog because Warseer's staff are unbelievably squeamish about things like butts and nipples. And let me just say it now, a few of these models are going to be completely pornographic and feature the prominent use of drugs and alcohol. Because I'm classy like that.

08-08-2013, 21:04
My order from Forgeworld arrived yesterday and I was very excited to check it out. First time ordering anything from FW, and hell it was even my first time working on any such piece. Unfortunately as soon as I unboxed O'Rly I noticed that part of his torso was broken off. The shoulder where his gun attaches is now a separate piece from the rest of his torso, and I am unhappy about that. So, I'm gonna take some pics and send them to FW to see if I can get a replacement sent out. Idk what exactly the process is with this. I may have to mail the model back to them, at which point I'll likely never see a replacement part.

09-08-2013, 14:43
Blimey. Incredibly inventive, skilful modelling, boss.

I'll be watching this thread with keen interest. :yes:

10-08-2013, 07:32
This is a really good thread and it's very interesting seeing your ideas come to life.
I was never much into Tau, but this log has persuaded me to try to make the guy with the big sword (Farsight?) out of a regular Crisis suit.

15-08-2013, 11:56
Been poking around with the O'Rly model. Despite the torso being one solid block of resin, it was easy to get it drilled out and the head was even easier to hollow out for an LED. I drilled out the whole face and put a round eye lens on the front to get the light to sit where I want and point in the right direction. I haven't yet decided whether this will actually stay as O'Rly or become a Farsight proxy. A lot of that depends on whether FW ends up sending me a replacement model for it (a lot of parts were damaged or miscast, but I can fix it all. Quick run down of what I'm planning with the model so far (Farsight version):

Replacing the arms with new ones built from a broadside and extra crisis bits
Adding two of the big Broadside shoulder pads
Affixing the Riptide shield generator to the back and fanning out all the big metal fins to create a halo effect
Building a weird crown out of one of those Praetorian shields
Belt made out of Ork skulls
A single red LED eye
"Hovering" effect using terrain to make him fly
Base littered with Ultramarines (not just "dead" or cut up, but utterly unmade by Farsight's weapon, possibly with still-glowing wounds)
And also...
Wait for it...
Mother-frakking SOUL EDGE.

I mean, that's what he has, right? Hero finds a sword that hits harder and faster than anything ever should, steals the life of its victims, and grants him agelessness? And before you even ask, it's going to be the Nightmare version from SC2. Or I might not end up making that, and I might go with the glaive from the Libby Dread instead. Unsure at this point :P I already started on the wing mount. I actually need a second Riptide shield in order to make it work, so I'm ordering one from an ebay bits seller. Despite the fact that that seller was a titanic jerk when I asked for a refund for stuff that never arrived, he still has the biggest inventory on ebay. Jerk.

Still no sign of the stuff I ordered recently. Freaking Ramadan and Eid made the mail service grind to a stop here. There are a ton of naked girls from Hasslefree and a Tardis on the way. Yes, I plan to make a giant robot pimp, complete with a hat and a fur coat if I can manage it. To that end, and because I've lost the requisite 10 pounds for ordering another batch of Tau, I have ordered 2 more Broadsides and 3 more Crisis suits direct from the GW website. They ought to get here in a few weeks, and then they'll sit in their boxes til I'm back from Thailand. Mmmmmm...Thailand.

Finally, I worked a bit on the support suit today. I decided to scrap the necron shields on the sides as they were just not looking right. Instead, I used a couple of spare drones and shield generators. It looks sweet so far (teeeeeeease)

Edit: Saudi internet is being terrible again, so I can't post the pic of the tacked-together support suit body and arms. Be assured that it is sufficiently badass.

Nomrana Est
16-08-2013, 22:50
Edit: Saudi internet is being terrible again, so I can't post the pic of the tacked-together support suit body and arms. Be assured that it is sufficiently badass.

Damn, that sucks. I'd very much like to be able to see that.

Everything else is looking good though. Very nice set up so far, and they're coming along nicely.

16-08-2013, 22:58
Small update:

I've spent part of my day off, when I wasn't drinking forbidden beverage and stuffing my face with charred mammal flesh, working on Farsight and also doing a bit of general tinkering and experimenting. Farsight is going to look utterly baller. The pose I've got going is kind of a "swooping" look. I'm still on the fence about whether I'm going to build him a Soul Edge. It would be very cool, but I'm not certain it would feel right on the model with the rest of the aesthetic I have going. As for the base, I'm evolving my concept a little bit. I really don't like the Ultramarines. In fact, they feature as one of the main villainous elements in my army's fluff, which is nebulous and confusing as hell. Now, everybody has dead enemies on their bases. That's a pretty standard trope in this game. What if I want to go the extra mile? What is worse than dead Ultramarines? That's not the question to ask here. The question is, just how am I going to deface their chapter banner?

Yeah, I'm really that much of a dick :D

In more general hobby news, I picked up a small syringe of the clear epoxy and tried it out. I'm immediately regretting not buying a bigger one, because there was a lot of waste for the small amount that I actually used. That's fine. I found out that I can use it to bind together all those itty bitty strands of 0.3mm fiber optics that I've been trying to work with. On top of that, the resin diffuses light directed through it, casting it at a wider angle than the tip of the fiber optics do. This solves a major dilemma I'd been having about how to do plasma rifles, and allows me to move a step forward on more of my suits.

Moving right along to other news. My second wave of models has shipped from GW. Those will hopefully get here about the same time as a bunch of female torsos from MAS that I traded for. Ever see an army with naked female Tau? Don't worry, you will.

17-08-2013, 16:27
I have a bunch of WIP pics and step by step shots as I put various pieces together. However, I mostly just want to show you this:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130817_051109_zpsf3860666.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130817_051109_zpsf3860666.jpg.html)

That's how Farsight is coming along. Now, the arm, shoulderpad and shield are only tacked on at the moment and they'll be posed a little different when it finishes. Right now, I only have half the bits I need for the wings, and I don't have a good sword for him yet. Here's what it looks like with the head lit:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130817_051335_zpsdd06202e.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130817_051335_zpsdd06202e.jpg.html)

That's some craziness. The LED is so bright it shines through the resin lol. I'll patch the area around the eye itself with GS, but on the head I may have to just hope that the paint covers it more completely. Speaking of LEDs, here's the work so far on the Support Suit that's going to amplify Farsight's bomb squad.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130817_145053_zps017896d1.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130817_145053_zps017896d1.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130817_155825_zpsd924bf24.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130817_155825_zpsd924bf24.jpg.html)

So that's cool. Oh! Right, before I forget, I found a really neat trick that involves FIRE! I was having trouble getting the LED in the head to shine through the main eye as well as the big eye on the side. I'd get a little bit of light in the side eye, but it wasn't really convincing. So I figured this out. I took a piece of the 1mm fiber optics and held a lighter up near the end of it until the tip mushroomed out. This causes it to shed light in a wider angle, but as I found out, it also *collects* the light from a wider angle as well! So I clipped off a very small piece, maybe 2 or 3mm long, and (holding the other end with needle nosed pliers so I didn't wind up in the hospital again) I held the lighter up to that end as well, giving me a short double mushroom thing, which I then stuffed into the eye and glued in place. That setup collected a lot of light and gave me two very bright eyes for the head. Also, FIRE!!!

Last update, a WIP of a proof of concept. I found a busted up daemonette model (current gen) in my bits box; I forget what I was gonna use it for. But I had some inspiration and I took a knife to it. I shaved off all the detail of the armor and such, removed the tail, clipped off some spikes, sculpted a second boob, did some sanding, carved an ass on her because the tail had previously filled it in, and now here's the result of all that:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130817_154915_zpscb73c582.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130817_154915_zpscb73c582.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130817_154940_zpsa0275615.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130817_154940_zpsa0275615.jpg.html)

Yup. Naked tau chick. Of course, there's a lot more work to be done to get this to a proper stopping point, but the point is that it can be done pretty easily. I just need to fix the feet and turn them into tau hooves, and get some sandpaper to smooth out some of the rough edges. That's going to require a trip to SACO for some various types of sandpaper.

Don't look at me like that. Girlfriends are illegal here.

18-08-2013, 23:46
I'm making so much frogress! I wired, sealed up and posed the support suit, got the whole thing put together with "arms" and all to get a feel for how it's coming along. Now, the drone arms are only attached with tack for now because I'll want to take the green rods out before painting, so these are not 100% final yet.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130818_164046_zps0c935690.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130818_164046_zps0c935690.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130818_164143_zpsb7e6d61d.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130818_164143_zpsb7e6d61d.jpg.html)

I may shorten the rods between the shoulders and the drones when I do the final version. As for the base, you can see that it isn't cut up and there is no battery holder in it, and that's because I am completely out of them. Still waiting on that big batch I ordered a while back, and hopefully they'll be in the mail call in the next few days. Hopefully. When I eventually build the base up with putty and bits, it'll have a bit of a slant to it and the pose will look a little more natural.

Currently continuing to piece together Farsight, and still looking for a good sword. I may have to go ahead and build the model, base it, et cetera and leave the sword arm conspicuously absent until I get a bit in.

Oh oh! Also, I royally screwed up and hacked the shoulder joint ball off of the plasma suit tonight as I was trying to attach an LED to it. And I dont mean sliced it off neatly where it can be put back in really easy. I destroyed that sucker. Took a big chunk of the shoulder with it too, I'm just that much of a pro!
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/images_zps92912efa.jpeg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/images_zps92912efa.jpeg.html)

I've managed to sort of, kind of, maybe get a method together for lighting the plasma guns. I can't begin to explain the depth of my hatred for tau plasma guns at this point. I mean, just....dammit. Dammit all to hell. I've ruined so many of them over the course of this project.

19-08-2013, 21:32
Legs and shield arm are attached to Farsight now, and this is as far as I can go until some more parts arrive. I'm going to be trying out a few different weapon options including swords, spears and maces. I had wanted to build a Soul Edge, but as the model came together it just didn't seem right. With the big halo and the wings, this thing looks like a flying robot paladin who wouldn't be wielding a demon sword. Then again, Siegfried was a regular knight until he took up the sword, so....maybe still. I mean, well...maybe. I'd need a sword to use as the base, though, and I do happen to have a couple in my old bits collection, which I asked to have sent over from back home, along with my paints. Yes, paints. It looks like after all the talk of getting the army pro painted I'm going to want to do it myself after all. Maybe I'll compromise and get a couple units done by pros. Anyway, here's the pics of Farsight as it stands right now:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130820_000510_zps777eaa9e.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130820_000510_zps777eaa9e.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130820_000458_zps72ca6c8b.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130820_000458_zps72ca6c8b.jpg.html)
I need to build a flying base for this thing, and it has t have three properties.

1- It has to be sturdy enough to support the model with a 1/16" brass rod sunk into it.
2- It has to be thick enough that I can snake the wiring down through it and into the base.
3- It has to be urban themed to match the rest of my army

Anyone got any ideas?

Hadriel Caine
21-08-2013, 14:41
That's just showing off... Seriously cool mods and posing. I love the LEDs

21-08-2013, 15:10
That's just showing off... Seriously cool mods and posing. I love the LEDs

Thanks. But just so you know, that kind of work carries with it a lot of unique hazards directly related to my dumbassery. For instance, I stabbed myself in the wang today.

I'll let that sink in for a minute.




No, really. I stabbed myself in the wang with my hobby knife. Not on purpose. Just...damn. I went full retard.

21-08-2013, 16:04
Yeah, that deserved its own post.

In other news, I have a flying robot knight! And it's awesome!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130821_160452_zps51266f2f.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130821_160452_zps51266f2f.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130821_160507_zpsd08789c3.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130821_160507_zpsd08789c3.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130821_160516_zps2af2c9c0.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130821_160516_zps2af2c9c0.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130821_160549_zpsa08d81ab.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130821_160549_zpsa08d81ab.jpg.html)

Very happy with how this is coming along. Super sweet. The first and most important thing to say about how I mounted it is taht the little buttress he's flying past is not strong or stable enough to hold the model like this. I actually cut it in half, drilled up and down, and sank a brass rod in the entire length of the thing. Totally sturdy now. And after these pics were taken I sank a battery holder into the base, right where that big glob of glue is in the empty space lol.

Now, it's important to note that the pose is not final because he is not glued to the brass rod yet. I'm leaving it hanging until I wire it up to the base, but therein lies another problem....I didn't leave enough wire to reach the base.

Oh dear gods above and below, give me storms and fire, plague and mutiny, but save me, preserve me against my own retardation!

Now, I can fix that. I just need to splice a little extra wire onto it and it should reach the battery leads. In the mean time, I started working on the weapon arm and did a quick mock up using some heavily modified parts from a Menoth heavy warjack:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130821_162032_zpsa8933e2a.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130821_162032_zpsa8933e2a.jpg.html)

The flail is by no means final, I just wanted to see how it would look. Even if I don't use the flail itself, I've been modding the hand to make it more Tau-appropriate so I'll likely use it in the final product. That final product will likely be holding the sword from the Phoenix Heavy Myrmidon from Warmachine's Retribution faction. I think that bit is exactly what I've been looking for. Now I just have to wait for it and all the other bits to arrive so I can put the final touches on the model.

In other news, Forge World agreed to replace the broken chest and gun pieces from Shas'O R'alai, so I can build another crazy kitted out suit later on using those. I need to look in the FW book and see if an XV9 can double up on the Pulse Submunitions Rifle, because dropping tons of pie plates would be kinda cool. I'll probably do a few extra suits for the army to give me options, maybe a few with double missiles or frag launchers or just a bunch of magnetized options.

22-08-2013, 02:09
Semi progress report, since I made no real progress but did some aggressive interweb browsing during my shift tonight. Very aggressive.

Just ordered a micro bomb speaker and an ipod remote. Because the bass isn't gonna drop itself. About 2" in diameter, the speaker *should* slot into the top aperture on a hammerhead hull. If not, I will mod the hull until it does fit.

I spent way too much time browsing Hobby Link Japan. Seriously, that site is dangerously tempting for someone like me. I ordered a few Armored Core parts that will be used on the Riptide when I start building it. Can you say Karasawa cannon? It may not even fit properly, but damn. That is an iconic mech weapon and I'm going to try and use it if at all possible.

PoweredPlay kickstarter finally shipped all the circuit boards and LEDs. I should be getting my gigantic order of those within the next week or two. My buddy and I went halvesies on the highest pledge level. These are vehicle kits, for anything Rhino-sized or above, and they're pretty awesome. There's an effects controller that will also be shipping to me sometime in October, which I may end up using on my riptide or maybe on the Hammerhead once that build is started. Either way, these are for a little later.

Also...hmm......let's just say that there is something BIG that will debut on this log after spending a really long time in the mail.

24-08-2013, 19:50
Laser eyes online!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130822_233527_zps637078a6.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130822_233527_zps637078a6.jpg.html)

Naked female fire warrior next to the model. Partly for size comparison and partly because I forgot to move her. But as you can see, Farsight looks like he should be taking on dreadnaughts.

28-08-2013, 18:25
I spent the better part of last night, when I wasn't out on patrol, cracking apart my Piranha and the Riot suit. Man, did I beat the crap out of that poor suit! The hips

eventually came off, but in three pieces and badly in need of repairs. Had to cut away the rib cage just to get at the hip joint; it was a mess!

But it's fixable. I'll try and get to the rebuilding of the suit tonight, but I managed to get the Piranha rebuilt the way I wanted it, based off of a design by Paulson

Games with more of a fighter jet feel. Of course, I took liberties with the concept and I feel that I improved slightly upon the original, found here:








Sorry for the poor pics, the only camera I have is my phone. My conversions are sometimes over the top.. Case in point, the enormous bayonet on the end of the nose mounted

Fusion Blaster. Obviously, those magnets need to get set in a little deeper, and that's going to be part of the clean up work. The big engine is from the Broadside kit. I

just tore the torso of the second pilot out and shoved the engine down over his seat. Made a nice mount for the engine and was invisible when it was finished. The spoiler

is made from one of the random fins in the Broadside kit (cut down a bit for stability) and the cover from a Valkyrie nose gun.



This was my take on the XV02 Pilot Battlesuit. I was kind of all out of normal shoulderpads, so I used some leftovers from my other conversions. I might see if I can dig up

some better bits for that. One thing that I found out is that Grey knight heads make very good Tau heads if you cut the nose off and do some minimal reshaping. No hair, and

some exaggerated facial bones, plus a lot of cyber-gubbins attached to the skull. All you have to do is cut the neck nub down some and you're good to go. That one in

particular is the Dreadknight pilot. The antennae on the back are both from a crisis or broadside, I forget which. Maybe both.

Last bit for this update is a little project I've been fiddling with, a cheesecake half-battlesuit designed as more of a pinup model than an actual canon unit. Because no

army of mine is complete without gratuitous female nudity.

29-08-2013, 00:28
My first round of weight loss rewards arrived in the mail today. Three crisis suits and two broadsides. So now I have plenty of stuff to start working on. On the plus side, I already know I want to do certain conversions. So I wont have to deal with things like adding a waist after a model is already built and wired.

29-08-2013, 23:59
Piranha is looking good! Is that a Grey Knight cowl with a Tau face? Very inventive.
But I must say all I really want right now is more Farsight. He's looking ridiculous (in the best way possible). Using the Broadside shoulder pad on the FW suit is a really great idea, and the Riptide shield generator really adds some pomp to him!

30-08-2013, 17:51
Piranha is looking good! Is that a Grey Knight cowl with a Tau face? Very inventive.
But I must say all I really want right now is more Farsight. He's looking ridiculous (in the best way possible). Using the Broadside shoulder pad on the FW suit is a really great idea, and the Riptide shield generator really adds some pomp to him!

Here's the bandolier of Ork skulls I've been thinking about adding to the model, plus a GK Terminator helm (shot right through the eye lens, a worthy trophy!):
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130829_074850_zpsf16f3e18.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130829_074850_zpsf16f3e18.jpg.html)

Twisted a piece of wire and then drilled holes through the heads and strung them along. Still not sure where exactly on the model this is going to go. I'm toying with a few ideas:

1. Slung low on his right side along the hip and thigh area
2. Hanging from his shield
3. Hanging beneath the wing assembly on his back

Another thing I'm debating is having some kind of half-cloak type effect, but only hanging from the backs of his pauldrons. Maybe something tattered and shredded. I'm trying to sell the character as a kind of fallen paladin, after all. So now I'm looking at different bits I could use. I have a few spare drake cloaks that I used on my FWs, but I wanted to have those handy in case I did more of them.

But enough of that. I went ahead and built the sword arm using a Dreadknight sword I happened to have laying around. It's still very WIP, I may twist the sword around so that the blade is coming in at a different angle, and I need to finish building the hand out of Furioso dreadnaught fingers. When the other sword bits arrive, I'll take a look at them and see if I like them better.

(placeholder for when photobucket stops being so full of fail)

30-08-2013, 18:05
cool weird (wired, heh heh, no?) stuff here, lots of nice details on every model, you know what the colour scheme will be? also i cant believe you cut your wang off!

30-08-2013, 20:33
This has got to be one of the most entertaining blogs on Warseer. Plus its highly educational; be careful what you do with your modelling tools, especially the sharp and hot ones! Brings back all those happy (?) memories of electronics at school trying to solder the blasted led to the teeny wire with the giant soldering iron and my enormous sausage fingers. This time I'm gonna subscribe, instead of waiting for it to pop up on the front page.


30-08-2013, 22:38
cool weird (wired, heh heh, no?) stuff here, lots of nice details on every model, you know what the colour scheme will be? also i cant believe you cut your wang off!

For the record, I did not cut my wang off. I just nicked it, painfully.

30-08-2013, 23:08
oh, i was going to say that it would make an interesting weapon for a slaanesh daemon prince :p

31-08-2013, 01:43
For the record, I did not cut my wang off. I just nicked it, painfully.

This thread just keeps delivering. Beautiful combination of artistic vision, engineering, and unexpected humor (glad you seem okay, though).

Inspiring, for sure, though I'm more apt to light up scenery than my models. Not that brave as I'm just getting back into 40K after a 15 yr hiatus.

31-08-2013, 18:18
oh, i was going to say that it would make an interesting weapon for a slaanesh daemon prince :p

Dawg, you'd have to field a Warlord titan to handle that kind of ordnance. #truestory

ARGH! Why the hell won't photobucket accept my uploads? This is getting absolutely intolerable. I'm all like "Take it, PB!" and it's all like "No way I'm not that kind of website!" and I'm all like "Your bandwidth says no, but your server says yes!" That got a little weird. But it is pretty frustrating to have a bunch of pictures ready to upload but be unable to put them online. Stupid saudi intertubes.

Made a bunch of progress on Farsight. Built up the sword arm and attached the trophy belt. Important tactical note, the GK helm actually contains a hidden compartment for his Skittles.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130831_072136_resized_zps0b9c9a1c.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130831_072136_resized_zps0b9c9a1c.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130831_072147_resized_zps83f2b914.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130831_072147_resized_zps83f2b914.jpg.html)

Taste the rainbow. I also started the final steps on the sword arm, now that I have my other Broadside models and thus the other shoulder pad. I sank a pin pretty far into the shoulder because that sword arm is gonna be heavy. It's built out of a Broadside rail rifle forearm, a dreadknight greatsword hand (minus the fingers), and then three fingers from a Furioso's blood fist cut down to size a bit and then blended in with green stuff. The following pics are still quite rough, because the GS needs to be filed and sanded when I get a chance, but they represent the concept I'm going for. My other sword bits will arrive eventually, and I'll take a look at them as potential replacements. This marks the first time I ever built a mech hand out of bits and GS, which is pretty cool. This model was a first for me in a lot of different ways.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130831_063717_resized_zps04ba0b8a.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130831_063717_resized_zps04ba0b8a.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130830_070349_resized_zps248efd1c.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130830_070349_resized_zps248efd1c.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130830_070404_resized_zpsf3f07f6f.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130830_070404_resized_zpsf3f07f6f.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130830_070415_resized_zps8ba83237.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130830_070415_resized_zps8ba83237.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130831_063727_resized_zps8b0f920e.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130831_063727_resized_zps8b0f920e.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130831_063722_resized_zpsd7334bfa.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130831_063722_resized_zpsd7334bfa.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130831_063742_resized_zps42c0390c.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130831_063742_resized_zps42c0390c.jpg.html)

Sorry for so many angles, but I feel that I did enough construction work here that the extra shots will help anyone who wants to try the same thing. At the moment the sword arm is still separate, and the individual heads on the belt are still free to flop around, but they will all have their final positions glued down very soon.

31-08-2013, 22:57
Dude this army is amazing! Keep up the good work :)

01-09-2013, 01:59
Big thanks to everyone who've been giving me props on my army so far, and even bigger props to the guys who've offered criticism :)

Alright, not so much an actual update as a general musing on the state of my project.

I'm at a bit of an impasse here. I have a *ton* of stuff on my work table, and like 6 kits sitting here either unopened or still on sprue. Normally, that's a beautiful thing, but right now I have one month before I head out to Thailand for vacation, so what I'm looking at right now is how best to reduce my number of active projects. At the moment, I have the following open projects:

1. Farsight. Almost finished. Awaiting final bits in the mail, no clear time table.
2. Plasma Suit. Continued problems, but advancing.
3. Piranha. Awaiting basing and LED wiring.
4. Fusion Suit. Pending re-basing after being rebuilt, nearly complete.
5. Support Suit. Pending a addition of a waist and basing.
6. Diplomat Squad. Need to finish the gun barrels.
7. Gun Drones. Need basing and minor design tweaks.
8. Shadowsun. Needs fusion guns adjusted.
9. Desert Pimps. Pending reworking of the helmets.

I think there's like two or three models I've actually finished, and that's the Broadsides, Shagnasty and the Envoy. That's it. After 8 pages of WIPs? That's pretty sad. So what can I finish quickly? Shadowsun and the Diplomats will be the quickest, just to get them out of the way. I think I will actually do them in an hour when I get off work, before bed. The Desert Pimps are getting a quick makeover of their helms based on a design I saw on another site, very sci-fi. More than anything I just need to decide between two design options and it'll be quick from there. But that's not why we're here.

I need to finish these damned suits already. I've got the Fusion which just needs to be reattached to the base after I completely rebuilt it. If I finish the above three squads tonight and still have a little juice, I'll finish the Fusion (AKA the Riot Suit). The Support and Plasma both need more work, the plasma much, much more so. I'm still running into issues with the size and shape of the plasma guns. I cannot, for the life of me, tell you why they're baffling me so much or why I felt the need to come up with a totally irrational method of lighting them. It's absolutely retarded but I'm kind of determined to make it work now. If not, screw it, I have enough Broadside Plasma guns that are bigger and boxier, and that will let me do my LEDs the regular way. I'll need a whole afternoon to finish it regardless.

The gun drones are an iffy question. I figured out what they need, and that's something at the back of the model to balance them out more when you look at them. There are lots of bits that could work for an individual drone, but I need to be able to scrounge up enough to do the whole unit. Quantity, that's the problem. Maybe the big fins from the Broadsides will work, since I think I now have enough to finish the drones I've currently built. Regardless, these are on the back burner for now.

02-09-2013, 17:42
Archangel battlesuit up and running!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130901_082651_zpscfe35718.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130901_082651_zpscfe35718.jpg.html)

Now I just need the bits for the other wing and it will be finished. So that's one off the list.

But wait, there's more! Diplomat squad is finished too!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130901_203509_zps06e85ef2.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130901_203509_zps06e85ef2.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130901_203501_zpse73ba000.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130901_203501_zpse73ba000.jpg.html)

So now that I was on a roll, I grabbed the Riot suit and went to work. Re-soldered the wire extension onto the base,affixed the leg, glued it down, same with the other leg, then reattached the rib cage and covered up the extra wire. Here's the result:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130901_075848_zps6756fdeb.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130901_075848_zps6756fdeb.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130901_075905_zps8b6f11db.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130901_075905_zps8b6f11db.jpg.html)

For comparison, here's the suit before I extended the torso:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130804_080759_zpsae15bb72.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130804_080759_zpsae15bb72.jpg.html)

The extra height gives the suit a much more realistic feel to it instead of the squashed aesthetic of the standard crisis suit. I also may have kind of messed up the helms on the Desert Pimps, but not too bad. They're close to where I want them, I just have to go back and GS over my mistakes. Made some real progress on my double plasma suit, finally, by decideing to scrap the fiber optics in the arms and going with the bigger, fatter broadside plasma guns. I also extended all four limbs and am working on a reverse jointed leg mod that's cheap to pull off.

But then I had this big bright idea about the riptide head being replaced with a cockpit and a naked female pilot. And so then I had to start working on that. ********.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130902_091530_zpsb45c1e93.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130902_091530_zpsb45c1e93.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130902_091453_zps855c5a86.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130902_091453_zps855c5a86.jpg.html)

Bob Hunk
03-09-2013, 11:49
Farsight is looking ace, I particularly love his trophy necklace. :cool: Keep up the good work!

Btw, have you seen these Infinity female mech pilots (http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/category/bootleg/)? They may possibly be of some use for this project. ;)

04-09-2013, 17:36
Oh, without a doubt Infinity produces some extremely sexy girl models, and the Bootleg series are perhaps the best examples of this. But have you seen the prices on those? 35 Euros for one female pilot model. Yeah, I'm not a fan of that part, though I might try using one or two of their regular models at some point.

In other news, well, there's a lot of news. So there. Man, where to even start? My Tardis and a bunch of naked chicks came in the mail today from Hasslefree, and so did the other wing for Farsight. I can finally finish my commander, yay!! I imagine that I'll get the time lords to go with that tardis next week or so, which is fine. I still need to come up with a suitable build to involve the greatest warrior in any universe. It's true, they said so on the show lol. I may be something of a fanboy. Shut up.

I've been going crazy on my Tau lately. I mean, full-on cray-cray bat scat frakking LOCO. Fo rizzle, I say.

First of all, I started off by building a set of reverse-knee legs for my double plasma suit.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130904_074618_zps304f3946.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130904_074618_zps304f3946.jpg.html)

That got me all a quiver with new possibilities, and so I went a little bit crazy and came up with a new hydra-esque wiring scheme that should (in theory) help to simplify efforts when wiring up lots of LEDs in one suit. So far it's working well and all 4 lines in my plasma suit have power running to them. The body is build and glued, the chest and eye LEDs are installed and functioning perfectly.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130904_172603_zpsf3919d0c.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130904_172603_zpsf3919d0c.jpg.html)

Between the extended legs and the waist spacer, this suit is TALL. Here is a side by side comparison between the Plasma, the newly stretched Fusion, and the Support, which is still at standard Crisis height. Even with the enormous launcher array on its back, it doesn't come close to measuring up.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130904_173438_zps10a97bc5.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130904_173438_zps10a97bc5.jpg.html)

But then I kept opening my mail, and something really naughty showed up.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130904_183033_zps79314ee6.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130904_183033_zps79314ee6.jpg.html)

That is a rechargeable mini bomb speaker, available at Gamestop for only $10. Recharges via USB, is crazy loud and actually has decent bass. Compatable with nearly any MP3 player. Look at that sexy face. But look at that thing. That doesn't come close to being compatible with 40k models. It's too big, despite being only 2" across. And too smooth, to plain. It sticks out like a sore thumb with a silver smiley face.

So I killed it.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130904_192137_zpscf157f8e.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130904_192137_zpscf157f8e.jpg.html)

With bolter and blade, I fell upon its misbegotten countenance and smote it in the name of teh Emprah. Actually, it was a Boker folding knife and a pair of wire cutters and even a kitchen knife. Close enough. I should say for the record that had I actually thought it through, I could have just taken out a few tiny screws and it would have come apart on its own.

After chopping the everliving hell out of it and very nearly ruining it once or thrice, I was left with this:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130904_192521_zps9ea00ce2.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130904_192521_zps9ea00ce2.jpg.html)

That pile of speaker guts is small enough now to slot into the top of a Rhino chassis, if you were so inclined. Leave the back ramp unattached and you can get in there to recharge the battery and program a small MP3 player to go with it.

Why is this important to my project? Because this is Dub Step Tau. You can't be Dub Step unless you can drop the phat bass at a moment's notice. Once my remote control gets here, I'll be able to do that too.

Lastly, my kickstarter order from Poweredplay Gaming came in the mail today. So now I have 25 of their Alpha Kits and some associated gubbinz, though it doesn't help me for my suits because the individual components are just a bit too long or wide. For vehicles, though, these are a great plan. So small and compact! The only down side is they run on a 9v battery. I can get miniature versions, but generally speaking the standard 9v sizes are going to limit the scope of these kits to Rhinos and above. Supposedly they're going to make a small vehicle kit in the future and powered bases for infantry, but for now these are the main product and they're pretty awesome.

06-09-2013, 05:48
Since the very start of this project, the double plasma suit has been the bane of my existence. I thought out a ton of different ways I could wire the LEDs for the guns, but the tau plasma gun just absolutely, positively refused to work either in principle or in practice. Finally, I figured out where I could fix the problem. The plasma guns from the Broadside kit are actually quite a bit larger than the ones from the Crisis kit (and bigger than the Riptide's, if you're wondering). It's only by a couple millimeters, but that's how much space I'd been lacking before. So with those all hollowed out and carved up, I still ended up having to detach the barrels and slot them down over top of the LEDs, but the end result is superb:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130906_075129_zpsae70bc64.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130906_075129_zpsae70bc64.jpg.html)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130906_075158_zpse01af589.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130906_075158_zpse01af589.jpg.html)

Take a moment and look at the colors at work here, as this is something I'm particularly happy about. Blue and green on the same model. If you recall from one of my much earlier posts, the blue and green LEDs had slightly different forward current values, so they didn't work off the same battery. Blue and white worked just fine, however, and so I found a loophole. The LEDs in the plasma guns are actually whites, and then I slid green necron rods down the barrels to tint the light green. Yes, it turns out you can do that! I keep finding new uses for those things.

So now, aside from some gap filling and minor detail work (mostly scraping the odd mold line here or there), the plasma suit (Distress pattern) is done!

06-09-2013, 17:34
How could I have forgotten to post the finished Farsight here???

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130904_205554_zps73e80c48.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130904_205554_zps73e80c48.jpg.html)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/BossFearless/20130904_205607_zpsde7176ba.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/BossFearless/media/20130904_205607_zpsde7176ba.jpg.html)

Asi the Red
07-09-2013, 03:04
Ok, first off, loving the double plasma suit - it's looking great!

Secondly, Farsight looks really good... but from the back the big circular thing with the Tau symbol inside that the wings are attached to just looks too big to me. I'd (maybe) cut it up into two halves and attach one to each side of the back, or something like that. It would give you a little more play with the blades of the wings too, so you could angle them backwards and add to the sense of motion that the suit has - right now he's leaping forward, but his wings are straight out to the sides.

Just a thought...

07-09-2013, 06:48
@Asi: Thanks for your input but I really love the way it turned out as-is. It's exactly what I wanted it to be, and how often can we really say that with out big conversions? The big circular bit on the back is actually the Riptide shield generator, and those wings are actually part of the assembly. They're tilted back slightly, but you can't quite tell from the pics, but that's as far back as they're going to go without serious alterations.

07-09-2013, 11:10
Really entertaining blog. I've enjoyed reading through. Would love to see a short vid once you manage to get that speaker system set up and working. Oh, and my sympathies to your wang. :)

07-09-2013, 18:10
Thanks. I do plan to put up a Youtube video once I get the Hammerhead 100% finished. Unfortunately, the thing won't even get here for almost a month, and then I'll be in Thailand for a while. So, it probably won't even get painted up til December.

Asi the Red
07-09-2013, 20:08
Excellent then! I can tell you that almost none of my conversions turns out exactly the way I wanted them, so if it's right on don't F' with it!

07-09-2013, 20:33
lol at your titan joke.

your farsight looks badass, think the pose is perfect and seals the deal

08-09-2013, 14:07
Great work, unfortunately some of the pictures are refusing to show courtesy of Photobucket griping... at least to me.

08-09-2013, 16:04
Yeah, I posted tons of pics and they got popular, so right now I'm waiting for my monthly bandwidth to re-up. Blech. I'm in between interesting parts anyway.

12-09-2013, 21:25

I managed to destroy the support suit. Like, completely. Ripped its ass off and everything. Just a disembodied Crisis ass laying there, flopping around and farting at no one in particular. But on the bright side, as I rebuilt it I modified the design and built something eerily similar to the dubstep cannon from Saints Row (the new one is awesome, FYI). Lately I've been rebuilding that, finishing up the Plasma suit with gap filling and such, and doing research on how to make the hammerhead smoke and strobe and such. The smoke machine is being problematic, but I've got strobing LEDs for the engines.

12-09-2013, 23:03
Sync the LEDs to Death By Robot by Feed Me. Lol

Eager to see your continued progress.

13-09-2013, 17:00
Update on the ill-fated support suit. After filling a few gaps and starting it back on the road to recovery, I had to put it together in a quick mock up to check and see if my idea for the pose would work or just look retarded.
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20130913_074443_zps722bd0cc.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20130913_074443_zps722bd0cc.jpg.html)
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20130913_074415_zps853815a1.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20130913_074415_zps853815a1.jpg.html)
I wasn't sold on the thing on top of the jetpack so I took it off. It was supposed to be an exposed reactor core, but I scrapped the idea. Saving the fuel rods for future crisis builds.

15-09-2013, 04:45
I'm doing very bad things with a riptide kit. In fact, it just keeps getting worse. Fire breathing nuclear monstrosity inbound.

15-09-2013, 15:16
Looking forward to seeing it, boss!

(yes, I stalked you down over here.) :)

15-09-2013, 20:14
Lol, stalker.

I tried out the Powered Play kickstarter today. Very impressed except for one thing. They included these ginormous switches as a separate piece that must be plugged into the circuit board for it to run. They could have found so many smaller switches, but damn. These things are hueg. I've managed to very creatively stash all the hardware within the Riptide, though, so no wires running to the base this time.

18-09-2013, 19:36
XV117 Abyss is almost ready to be debuted. Lights in all its guns as well as the dragon head. Naked female tau pilot. Good things happening. Also, added two new members to the Desert Pimps and painted up two more of the assembled troopers. Really taking my time on the paints for once, and it feels good man.

Wait...I haven't been a retard in a while. Oh god, my retardation is just circling, waiting and stalking me like prey. It's gonna be horrible, like the fiction in my sig.

18-09-2013, 22:20

19-09-2013, 10:07
Hokay, lots of stuff to update. First, I forgot to actually post completed pictures of the Support Suit on this site. I put them up over at ATT where I have a clone of this thread, but neglected the Warseer version.
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20130914_063815_zpsf9ade334.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20130914_063815_zpsf9ade334.jpg.html)
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20130914_063832_zps425cec32.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20130914_063832_zps425cec32.jpg.html)

I have lots more angles but who cares. So there's that.

I also forgot to post the finished Piranha:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20130915_094858_zps952cc2b3.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20130915_094858_zps952cc2b3.jpg.html)

I'm planning to put it on a longer base so that you can really see the ground effects better.

Next up, an early test model for my paint scheme:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20130917_113201_zps00b380ba.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20130917_113201_zps00b380ba.jpg.html)

I've got a lot more work done and a few changes to the overall scheme on the model. Little things mostly, like a few extra blue lines and such, but also changed the shoulder emblems to bright white and added a tiny bit of white highlighting to the line work for accent. A couple female fire warriors have joined the squad, but now I'm all out of legs and so they will be the last ones for a while.

I started writing (gods alone know why) a romantic comedy story set in my ridiculous crusade fleet that encompasses all my armies. This is what happens when you get really frakking bored. It's over in the fiction section and there's a link in my sig if you're feeling loopy enough to read such a thing.

And now for something completely different.

I'm calling it the XV117 Abyss:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20130919_020921_zpsb9d6615f.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20130919_020921_zpsb9d6615f.jpg.html)
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20130919_010321_zpsb69f5053.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20130919_010321_zpsb69f5053.jpg.html)

Those guns make me all happy inside. Too bad there's no model in the game that could field all of it.

Asi the Red
20-09-2013, 03:12
Perhaps you could use the rules for this...

20-09-2013, 08:01
Thanks Asi. I'd already seen the Ravarna, but until the rules for it actually come out, there's no telling what it even does. Knowing FW, it's either the best thing ever or it fills some ridiculous niche that no one would realistically use.

Little update. I've done a lot of gap filling on the Abyss and built appropriate mounts for the shoulder railguns. Also spent a little time on the pilot, and now her right arm is about half finished. Going to make sure that I paint her separately from the rest of the suit so that I can get all the details right.

Bob Hunk
20-09-2013, 09:05
The Abyss looks sweet! :cool:

20-09-2013, 15:29
Alright, I'm up to 3 fully painted Fire Warriors. I switched a few things up with the paint scheme and added in some extra white to give it more of a pop.

This is the one I had started painting earlier:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20130920_111109_zps18df4d87.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20130920_111109_zps18df4d87.jpg.html)

And a group shot:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20130920_111109_zps18df4d87.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20130920_111109_zps18df4d87.jpg.html)
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20130920_111117_zpsbec99af9.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20130920_111117_zpsbec99af9.jpg.html)

I feel like the more guys I have next to one another with this scheme, the sweeter it looks.

21-09-2013, 10:03
Hi, I think you've done some great work here. The lighting is cool, although not something I think I'll be doing. The dark elves' cloaks on the other hand is really getting me thinking. I'm starting out with a Tau army of my own and have a box of Pathfinders that that cloak idea seems ideal for. I also really like your colour scheme for the FWs, individually maybe not that impressive but the bunch of them together it looks sweet. Oh yeah and Farsight is a monster.

22-09-2013, 20:27
Ho-kay. Nice little update on the progress of the Abyss. I've spent a bit of time finding and altering the right bits to make the rail rifles mirror one another to a certain extent. It's not perfect, but at arm's length the differences aren't particularly noticeable. Most of the gaps are now plugged up on the Abyss, and now comes the obsessive filing and scraping to get the pieces flush and the fingerprints shaved off. Still not 100% sold on the head as-is. I keep thinking it needs some kind of freaky eyes on the sides of its head, something small enough to not look ridiculous. Problem is, every bit I've fitted on there so far has made the head look significantly less fearsome and more cartoonish.

As for the pilot, I've done quite a bit of shaving, clipping, filing and sculpting. So far both her arms are attached and filed down to the right thickness, erring a bit on the thin side so she doesn't come out looking chubby. I extended the torso down slightly in front, where I'm going to sculpt on the lower abdominal and the upper part of the pubic area, though nothing more than what you'd see from the average low-rise bikini. I'm interested in using this piece not just as a centerpiece model, but also as practice for sculpting the contours of the body. The rest of her is going to be hidden down inside the cockpit, so no alien she-junks. At least not on this particular model. One other thing I did was sculpt her hair. I liked the idea of a long flowing braid, but the DE Wych braid that I had was just too straight. I wanted it to wrap around her arm and shoulder and such, so I went ahead and made a long braid out of GS. Going to wait about an hour for it to cure slightly before I go in and try to add some strands witht he blade of my hobby knife. Here's the WIP:

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20130922_235238_zpsd55a0165.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20130922_235238_zpsd55a0165.jpg.html)
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Edit: I got the chance to pop over to my villa so I went ahead and sculpted the hair pattern and took a new picture. This is my second time sculpting hair (first one ended in abject failure) so I feel pretty good about it so far. I think that if I was going to do it again, I might try rolling out three extra thin strands of GS and twisting them together gently to see if that made a realistic braid. Probably not lol. As you can (maybe) see, the fingers have not yet been added for the left hand. I'm going to let the palm cure before I do them so that I can safely pull them off if need be. Oh, and the indentations that are spaced along the braid are where I am going to add little bands around the hair, after it's had a chance to cure.

Part list:

Basicks Amazon Torso
Daemonette head
3rd Edition Dark Eldar warrior arm with splinter pistol (knife arm), heavily filed down
Bayonet from Ork Boyz for the knife, pommel made from a piece of GS
Necron Deathmark left arm, heavily filed down

I'm kind of proud of this sculpt, even though (as is plainly obvious) this is beginner's work at best. This represents perhaps the most heavily altered model in all my years in the hobby, with no single bit remaining in its original shape. I might go back in and add a tiny bit of thickness to the knife arm's forearm, and now that I have some really zoomed-in photos I see a couple of nicks and scratches I could fix. I should have gone over the whole thing with fine sandpaper to avoid those scratch marks, but I was impatient. My bro keeps on telling me that I need to sculpt some alien vajayjay and add giant truck nuts to the battlesuit, but he is to be disappointed yet again.

So, fun idea for the hammerhead. I know that I want to do an open cockpit design. I was thinking that this gives me a couple choices for how to proceed. One, I like the idea of Cultist Chan running the Hammerhead. That seems like kind of a given. But there may be enough room for two pilots, so I was thinking that the Doctor might be riding along and if I do that, then I could plug the Tardis into the design somewhere as a power source. I've already got plans in the works and bits in the mail for Amelia Pond's battlesuit, and I'm working on figuring out a way for it to play the Doctor Who action theme when it charges into melee (It will double as a Dreadknight, which is the model it's based off of).

I may need to experiment with bluetooth speakers for this. I have never, not once, used a bluetooth ANYTHING. Not even one of those earpieces that make you look like a babbling psycho. But I'm certain that the micro bluetooth speakers I've seen can be rigged to work with your smart phone, which means I just have to find one small enough to fit into a model. Problem is, the bluetooth speakers I've seen so far are a bit larger, so they might have to go in the titan if I end up using them. I'd really like to be able to fit one into the Hammerhead, though, because that would let me adjust the soundtrack with no problem and have one fewer component that needs recharging. Right now I'm kind of liking the idea of using the titan as my home stereo system anyway.

Hmm...I wonder if I can find a really tiny graphics equalizer.

Dammit, now I'm looking for more parts.

23-09-2013, 22:01
Alrighty. I now have all the basic troopers painted in the Desert Pimp squad, and I've basecoated Shagnasty. I think I'm going to use white as the color that denotes rank, so he's going to need some extra splashes of color to mark him as the leader, though frankly I think there's no doubt he's in charge already. I might do it like that, leave the coloration the same but use conversions to mark leaders. Heck, I never buy squad leader upgrades anyway so who cares lol. I also basecoated the pilot for the Abyss, though I'm waiting on spray primer for the suit itself. No way in hell am I doing that whole thing by hand. It would be a pain in the ass and wind up looking terrible. So, the pilot of the suit is naked and that leaves me to consider the question, what color are tau nipples? Certainly wouldn't be red. I've been toying with the idea of tau having spots around some areas, kind of like some of the aliens on star trek. I forget their names but they had spots running up the sides of their heads. I was thinking darker spots running along the head, and maybe lighter spots around the fun bits on the body.

Admit it, you subscribed to this thread for the alien she-junks.

23-09-2013, 22:17
Nope. I subscribed for the lights and wub.

Tau she-junks are just icing on the cake.

Everything is looking superb so far.

24-09-2013, 15:20
See that? Come for the light show, stay for the she-junks.

24-09-2013, 20:34
Great stuff!
On the XV117 Abyss, something about the 'face' bothers me. Maybe I'm not a fan of it OR it needs to be more integrated into the suit. Right now it seems to be sticking out and standing out.

24-09-2013, 22:36
You know, I just realized I haven't talked about that in any of my posts yet. The current arrangement was never meant to be final, with the face just sticking out like that. I've been looking around a while now for a good cover piece that would go over the neck/chest joint to make it look more natural, in much the same fashion as a Warhound or Reaver titan. I think we can all agree that without their neck cowling, both those models would look even more ridiculous (I almost can't stand the Reaver as-is). I've been fishing through my bits box frantically looking for something that would fit the shape, angle and size. I tried leg plates from Dreads, various plates from a Dreadknight, some armor sections from a Defiler, the shroud off a Razorback, but everything that fit the shape was either too big or too small. Then, finally, I came to the cover of the nose gun on a Valkyrie, which is the same thing I cut in half to make the thigh guards on the Riot suit. It wasn't perfect, but it was close. Tonight I shaved down some of the inside rim, cut off the sides, flipped them, applied some GS and repositioned it after gluing and GS'ing the main portion of the cover to the body of the Abyss.

These pics are a bit rough, as I am waiting overnight for the GS to cure before I go in and fill the gaps and shave down the excess material.

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As you can see, there are those gaps at the joints, and the edges of the side flaps need to be smoothed and trimmed down a bit, especially the one on the left. There were some minor issues earlier on in the build that came back to bite me in the ass when I attached these, which is why they aren't quite where I'd like them. Once I'd realized the problem, they were already stuck and I didn't dare risk breaking them. Well, that was the last major stumbling block as far as the actual structure of the thing and now I'm ready to start initial paint work. I have half a mind to enter it into the painting contest in the MP&T forum (is that here or on Dakka?) because it has the theme of "Face" and I think I've rather nailed it. I seriously doubt I'd get it done before I leave on the 1st, though.

Speaking of paint, my cans of primer finally arrived! This is very cool , because one of the cans of primer is Army Painter Alien Purple, which looks to be the same shade as what I'm using as the base for my Tau, or close enough that a wash will do the trick. Very cool stuff, and I feel utterly necessary for models with broad panels like the Hammerhead I'll be tackling soon. On top of that, a gargantuan overstuffed ziplock bag came with the rest of my bits collection from back home. Glorious! I lost like half an hour just sifting through it, and came up with like a bajillion ideas immediately. That's the trouble with the bits bag, it's a well of pure creativity and you never know what you'll be inspired to make. I found the rest of the parts to a Frag Cannon from a BA Furioso dread, chopped off the shoulder and built the thing to attach to the underside of a crisis or broadside arm. It looks ridiculously huge, so I'll have to build some kind of a brace for it, like an exoskeleton over the arm. It's going to be the meanest looking thing ever, lol, and probably count as the fragmentation launcher or ion whatsit.

25-09-2013, 18:14
This log is fantastic & loads of great ideas - thanks for sharing.
The cloaked guys [Pathfinders?] are looking suitably sneaky and the Abyss suit is chunky and more "mecha" (for me, these are improvements over the original).

That reminds me - I need to get back to my kitbashed/scratchbuilt Riptide.

25-09-2013, 21:55
@Andy: The cloaked guys are regular Fire Warriors. The Pathfinders, which I'll finally have all the bits for when I get back from Thailand, are going to be an all-female squad wearing *only* cloaks. Maybe a bikini or two just for sculpting practice. The idea behind them is that the cloaks are a prototype that works with the skin pigments of Tau to create a light bending effect, but they just can't seem to make it work unless it's kept in a single flat sheet, hence the cloaks and not a pair of pants or something. Also, is there a link to your kitbashed Riptide? I'd be interested to see it. If you want a full parts list or a breakdown of how I did mine, I'd be happy to share as well.

26-09-2013, 10:48
@bossfearless: Thanks for this...the cloaks look great (whatever the models are) and I like your background to them.
I can't post pics, as I've not got a camera. But yes please, a list of bits you've used would be really helpful.

26-09-2013, 15:55
Okie doke, let's see...

The "head" is actually a complete Riptide forearm with the elbow joint cut away. The "jaw beneath is made from one half of the other forearm, similarly trimmed. The teeth up front are the toothy farings from a Nob warbike, with the points trimmed off to look like more of a giant herbivore. It sockets into the torso using a slightly trimmed cupola ring from any given SM tank. The canopy over top of the head is the cover that goes over the Valkyrie's nose gun.

Super easy. Just lay the Riptide's shoulder armor plate over the collar taht normally sits up top. You'll have to trim the collar slightly on one side but that's it. Add an exposed pilot or run it with the cockpit closed. Either way looks good.

Shoulder guns:

Take the upper arm from your Riptide and dry-fit it against the slots where the guns normally attach to the forearm. You'll notice it's a pretty close fit. Lots of GS or plumber's putty to fill the gaps. Add SM tank cupola rings to the shoulders between the torso and the gun assembly, fill in gaps yet again. That's all there is to it!

Single jetpack:

Just file down the details on the inner surface of the two jetpack halves and then glue/GS them together. To mount it like this you'll need to clip off the vent that is normally behind the head.

I think that's all I did on the Riptide itself, aside from all the murderous stabbing it took to embed one of the PPG Alpha Kits inside the thing to run the lights.

Okay, so progress update on said Abyss. I got the whole thing primed and basecoated. Going back through and fixing some overlap and cleaning a few things up. One thing I'm done with is the pilot, Shas'Vre Snowflake:
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I want to take a moment and toot my own horn by pointing out that NONE of those muscles are actually sculpted on the model. The entire physique is painted on!

Also, I figured out how to make a marine hand that's throwing up the horns. So freaking metal!
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26-09-2013, 21:43
You gotta do him in Red and Gold, for the double-play of him being "Iron Man" in song and glory. That said, Epic. Gotta do one myself now, damn you, LOL. I'll have him as the Leader in a band of Noise Marines.

The Abyss is looking Sweet. Nice Jigglies, and the paintwork is fracking fantastic man.

EDIT - Where did you get the arm from for the Horns?

27-09-2013, 00:31
I actually made that hand myself. The arm, and the rest of the body are the DA veteran sarge out of the Dark Vengeance, but the front of the chest is from a thunderwolf rider, I think. I didn't get a rear shot but he has a funny sort of cloak made from Cold One Riders' leg armor. As for how I did the hand for the Horns, I cut the arm off at the wrist, then I rummaged through my box for an arm that would normally hold a bolter. I clipped the hand off that very carefully and then shaved off the index and pinky fingers. Lastly I rolled out some very thin short pieces of GS and carefully affixed them to the hand pointing upwards. Voila, the Horns. The naked girl on the base is from Hasslefree, one of their nude studies I think. I *may* have ordered a bunch of naked chicks at about the same time as I ordered my Time Lords.

I'm very happy with the way Shas'Vre Snowflake came out, and I'm looking forward to trying to complete the entire Abyss paint job before I leave in a few days. I've got plans to bring the thing to work with me and just hunker down at the little work table in the Ops Center, since nothing happens here on the weekends. In theory, obsessing over this piece should make the time before vacation go by much faster. As for tau skin colors, I've come to the decision that my tau are going to have a wide range of colors, like the Asari from ME, the Dranei from WOW, et cetera. I don't think any scifi setting is complete without over-sexualized, colorful alien girls. So in the next several weeks after I get back from my trip, there will be a lot of experimentation for purple, green, and other colored tau. I might nix the idea and go right back to blue, but I know that I want to try making a model for my Shas'O where she's outside her suit, and my fluff for her has her with black skin.

Update: Work continues apace on the Abyss. I've got most of the colors all blocked out, and next thing I have to do is start all the blue lines that will undoubtedly drive me mad. I should have started the painting while the parts were disassembled, but with LED work and the like that's not always possible. Plus, every step of this build was an experiment. Can't go painting parts without even knowing if they're going to end up as a head or an arm!

28-09-2013, 00:15
Mini update with WIP picture! Yay!

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Okay, so, after doing this much of the blue lining I am starting to have doubts about the sanity of my color scheme. But it's looking hella cool.

28-09-2013, 02:57
Okay. THAT is stunning. Perfect proof of the right color scheme. I still think that once everything is lit, you might see that a little glow on the edge lines would be tremendous.

28-09-2013, 03:07
To be fair, I don't have the slightest idea how I would realistically add glow to that many lines. I spent like 5 hours on it today just doing the lines themselves. Plenty more time has to be spent cleaning up the endless mistakes and splotches to make the lines really crisp, and then maybe, MAYBE I'll add some white to a few of them for a little bit of a glow effect. Nothing major, though. And I still haven't even attached the railguns to the top yet.

28-09-2013, 03:43
Of course. I figured that, if interested in the task, it'd be a step revisited after most of it is finished. With most things I get myself involved in, I tend to go back for another pass after I originally decide I'm done.

It was not criticism, more of a "that looks so vivid that it inspires another echelon". Trust me, your work and advice is inspiring.

28-09-2013, 04:54
I got all the line work done on this thing tonight during my shift, but I don't want to upload another WIP pic just yet. Having trouble deciding on how to paint the nova cannon, whether to leave it black and highlight the edges or to paint the muzzle purple and do it the same as the rest.

28-09-2013, 14:42
Definitely feeling the wub wub wub Kssssssssh wub.

Great work, keep it up.

29-09-2013, 18:29
Okay, so I am suddenly and strongly considering the virtues of a Skyray. I just want to start by saying that I never liked them. The model looks stupid with the little wing/spoiler assembly, the very idea of limited ammo chafes me, and then the simple fact that it cannot even use its own weaponry without help made it a pointless vehicle in my eyes. I would see players take them in tournaments, but those were almost always players in the "scrub tier". This edition, though, a small change to Seeker Missiles makes them interesting. You no longer need a markerlight token to fire them. They can fire on their own, but they get special buffs if used in conjunction with a marker.

So what does that mean for the Skyray? It means that, with a base BS of 4, it can hit reliably. It can throw out all six of its missiles in one giant alpha strike if need be. Don't know if I'd do that right off the bat unless I saw a Kan mob that really needed to die, but the option is there. Two networked markerlights means that on average, those missiles will be shooting at BS5. You get the TL SMS for free, the option for skyfire each turn, and generally just a lot of nice support tools for your army. Only thing it really lacks to fulfill its role as an AA tank is the ability to use Interceptor. Well, it isn't perfect. But it is neat. So what I'm considering right now is, as I build my Hammerhead mod, to make the build a bit more versatile. I'm planning to work the Sky Ray wings into the build anyway, so I'm going to sink in some magnets for all 6 seeker missiles, so that I can claim Skyray when I need to and Wub Dub Hammerhead when I want one of those. Wubwubwub. Only thing is, once the Skyray is out of missiles it's not very menacing, mostly just a support tank. I can see it working crazy well with certain combos but that's it.

As far as what I've been doing with my time over the last few days, well, here. Have a look at this.

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It's not quite finished yet. There is a little more clean up to do, I have to base it, and I have to figure out what I want to do with the exhause ports on the back. Not sure if I want to do them purple or what. And of course, the railguns on the shoulders. I'm painting them separate and they're about 1/3 of the way done now. Since I have so much room on the base, and I have all the different female models, I'm tempted to do something silly and NSFW. The bases on all my troops are urban ruins, so I was thinking have the suit standing up on a raised platform looking down over a swimming hole of sorts where a blast ripped open a hot water pipe or something like that. Discarded armor and naked girls of various races abound. Might be a little hard to tell that "story" when you have to share base space with a freaking riptide, though I'm determined to have that on some base somewhere.

So, there won't be any updates to this log for a few weeks after this post. I'm heading on vacation to Thailand and I'll be too busy committing heresy to really do much else. Sweet, delicious heresy. When I get back, I'll finish up the Abyss (or should I call it the Kaijuu?) and go from there.

30-09-2013, 15:15
Okay so I lied. I went ahead and built a Remora drone fighter out of spare bits from the sky ray turret. Those little things have a lot of firepower for only 90 points.



30-09-2013, 15:28
I like the Remora! Very creative ... another idea I will 'borrow'!

Bob Hunk
01-10-2013, 08:54
Nice Remora; that's a very clever use of the Skyray turret. :cool:

06-10-2013, 11:45
Update: Thailand is awesome.

You just have not yet lived until you have been buck nekkid in a hot tub with three girls in the middle of a crowded go-go bar on Walking Street, with a hookah pipe in one hand and a really fruity beverage in the other. Oddly enough, I still want to work on models...

08-10-2013, 00:42
At least you know they are Thai girls if you're all nekkid! ;-)

08-10-2013, 07:42
lol no kidding. You'd be surprised just how often they surprise you.

17-10-2013, 06:18
I'm having a blast in Thailand and still have the better part of a week to go before I have to return to the dreary sandbox I call home. However, I find my thoughts increasingly wandering to my upcoming Hammerhead project. I was struck by the notion of putting Defiler arms on the front of the Hammerhead, replacing the drone mounts and covering the joints with the armor plates from the Defiler kit. It's something I haven't seen done before, but I don't know that it would really look right. I'm sorely tempted to do a crazy kitbash of a Defiler/Hammerhead to build a giant mecha, but I don't know where I'd even start with that. I've already built 1.5 giant robots to go with this force, so I might as well add another. Oh, after seeing the experimental rules for the Ravarna battlesuit, I'm very glad that I went with the grotesquely overgunned build on this Riptide. That suit is an absolute beast.

Speaking of giant robots, I'd like the army to include a Barracuda fighter, but I'm not really sure how to make that happen yet. At one point I was thinking of converting a Hammerhead to a 'Cuda, but now I'm not so sure. I could always order a cheap Gundam or Armored Core model to serve as the basic model, then go a little crazy with the chopping and the cutting and such. There's one particular AC, the Noblesse Oblige, that has this wing-like laser cannon array that could be very cool and would justify sticking it up on a huge flight stand. Or perhaps Wing Zero would be an appropriate stand-in? I mean, if you're going crazy with giant robots you might as well go for broke. And if it doesn't look right, well, Wing Zero would be kind of cool to have around anyway. I just realized I should probably go and watch more Gundam shows just for the mech-porn aspect of them. Dem suits, yo.

I'd really hoped to find a micro bluetooth speaker while I was out here, so that I wouldn't have to stick an old iPod into the Hammerhead's troop compartment, but so far that goal is a bust. On top of that, my APO privileges were suspended for 3 months because my jerk brother sent me contraband, so now I can't order parts or doodads to add to my projects. So this means that I'm pretty much stuck with what I currently have until January, when the ban lifts. I'll probably pick up a not-so-micro set to use in the tau titan, which I believe is waiting for me in Hofuf right now. I'm debating just using the titan as my personal stereo system in my bedroom, because why the hell not. Better that than have it gathering dust and doing nothing to benefit me. As to the micro one for the hammerhead, I know I saw some in Bahrain at the Virgin store, which oddly enough does not sell actual virgins, so I can always pick up the part when I go there next (December?).

On an unrelated note, a ladyboy tried to pick my pocket yesterday but her hand got caught in a velcro pocket. So I'm hollering and twisting around and this ladyboy has her hand stuck in my pants and...well, yeah. Earlier in the week on a diving trip, I got seasick just as a really strong head wind picked up, and the resulting aerosol spray of vomit covered about fifty square meters of the boat's top deck as well as several passengers. I think that's some kind of a record. So, that's how my vacation is going, and it is GLORIOUS.

17-10-2013, 06:32
On the Bluetooth part, you could try to find a cheaper version of this and pair it to earbuds, which can get loud enough to be audible.

Some such thing might be small enough to fit in a Hammerhead or Riptide.

Pics of this Tau Titan or sketch of the plans?

17-10-2013, 11:18
Thanks jri0t68, but I was going for something that isn't just audible, but able to drop the bass over the commotion of a tournament full of shouting players. Right now I'm using a mini speaker that's the right size, but requires a wire running to an MP3 player inside the tank. The goal of this is to use a bluetooth speaker that's the same size, that can put out serious volume, and use that setup with my smart phone so that I can queue up a good playlist and select just the right track. At this point, though, I'm likely to continue with the current setup for the hammerhead and then do the bluetooth thing for the titan. The hammerhead only needs to have random dubstep bass noises anyway, since the idea is for it to be firing a bass cannon whenever I push a button. Got a little remote control that should do the trick just right, and I'll pick up an older iPod Nano to run the thing. So now, I just need to finalize the whole build and decide what exactly it is that I'm doing with it. So far I'm thinking extra engines, skyray wings, more engines, and then the big speaker gun that I'm not sure how I want to build. I'm still toying with the idea of a smoke effect, but more of a ghetto rigged version. If I didn't live in the freaking desert, I'd try to find a place that sells dry ice so I could do some experimentation.

Should the speaker be completely hidden, or should I incorporate it into the design of a big gun of some kind? Honestly I think either way is equally possible.

Okay, the dry ice thing I came up with involves foul sorcery (magnets) and a soda cap. I guess a piece of sprue clipping as well. Take the soda bottle cap and glue a piece of sprue across it, bisecting the cap and leaving plenty of open space. Sink magnets into the cross bar and a matching set into the bottom of the hammerhead. That's your ventral mounted smoke machine. From here, you make sure to mount the tank low on the flight stand, with enough terrain on the base itself to help hide the rather obvious tumor on the tank's underbelly. Now, the question is, with the small amount of water that will fit in that cap, and a pebble sized piece of dry ice, will that be enough to create a smoke effect? And if so, for how long? A bottle cap is just the thing that comes to mind first. I'm sure that something would be more suitable, perhaps wider or longer, but still shallow enough to fit between the tank and the base. There has to be something. I'm sure that a trip to a Home Depot would yield a good piece of PVC pipe fitting or something like that, but the SACO hardware store I go to out here doesn't carry that sort of thing. Hmmmm....a piece of a tupperware would either be too large or too flimsy, maybe both. And then, how would I test it? I won't find any dry ice out here. Maybe I can get someone in the states to be a guinea pig and try it out.

Also, if anyone wants to help me out, I could use a hand finding a cheap, tiny graphic equalizer. Like, keychain sized, that I could mount on a Tau vehicle of some type. I figure I should try to incorporate something that strobes or pulses to the music my army is going to be playing. If you can find one and send me a link you would earn my gratitude and possibly a cookie. Probably not. But anything is possible.

Oh, and as for the tau titan pics...that's a surprise for now. Believe me, I'll be working on it pretty much as soon as I get back, so pics will be forthcoming. Only reason it hasn't appeared in this log yet is because it had to get shipped from Japan to the States, and then get shoved into the APO system to eventually wander over into my neck of the world. I ordered it months ago.

17-10-2013, 15:24
I'm a bit of an audiophile myself and feel compelled to remind you that speakers need air behind them for volume. I'd love to see what type of Bluetooth speaker you've got in mind now, because getting volume from a small speaker isn't easy, and I'm intrigued.

On the hammerhead, hiding that type of Bluetooth to 3.5mm adaptor in the gun should be possible, then you could use a cheap pair of earbuds to cut the cable and wire that to a larger speaker or two mounted to the hull. Speakers could be disguised as access hatches.

Oooh. Speaking of volume... if you're not getting it loud enough there are 2 or 3 suitably sized Fiio Headphone amplifiers that would do wonders. The E6 comes to mind as a great option, but there are a couple of smaller ones, too. On the titan, room could possibly be made for a Fiio E11, which has 3 bass boost settings, high/low gain and is a great piece for listening to music on your own if you make the amp removable. I use one daily hooked to a $35 Sansa Clip that, with Rockbox, sounds better than any iPod to my ears. Clip is also pretty small and has a plastic shell so you could gut the internals and mount it how you like.

17-10-2013, 16:57
Man, that sounds like some much more expensive hardware than I am comfortable chopping up and gutting. The speaker I'm using right now is featured earlier in the log, so go back a page or two and you'll see how I (very messily) gutted it. Little $10 "bomb" speaker. I have, however, seen mini bluetooth speakers that are only about 2" diameter and very high tech looking. If I went and got one of those, I'd probably leave it in its shell and mount it like some kind of reactor thing.

Thanks for the heads up about speakers and air and stuff. I still haven't gone through the motions of dry fitting and fiddling with the parts yet, since I didn't have the time before going on holiday, so I don't know the exact setup I'll be using yet. I wish I had the main gun assembly from the Shadowsword. I think that's just the right size to mount the speaker as a full-blown bass cannon if I just used the really chunky part of the gun. Or maybe an earthshaker cannon, or something. I know it won't fit into anything Tau, too many slender guns. Maybe I'll end up fabricating it myself or some nonsense. Who knows. I'm drunk-posting anyway, so this probably doesn't make sense. Blarg.

Earlier today, a whole bus load of Japanese tourists took pictures of my schmack while I was on stage at this show bar. I couldn't help but do a big pelvic thrust and shout "godzilla" just to mess with them.

17-10-2013, 16:57
Whoops, double post.

17-10-2013, 18:10
The Clip at $30 or so could be found used for less, probably. Should be cheaper than a nano. I've seen them under $20.

The E11 is $60, expensive for this project, but if you fly a lot or listen to music over headphones a lot, it's cheaper than any other option for personal music listening outside of the project and could totally blow your mind. My entire rig can be had for $200 (player+amp+ earphones), but puts any iPod to shame and the bass rattles my head when called upon to do so.

E6 could be had used, too. I've seen them at $20 new. E5 is even cheaper. An E3 is as low as $9 new, but slightly larger than the others. Do what works for you, I'm just throwing ideas out there on how to get the volume you want. Also, with sound being vibrations, the enclosure rattling will kill sound. If you make sure the enclosure is sealed tight, and braced to be sturdy, then you've got a good chance at really surprising the hell out of people (other than visually).

What sized titan will that be equivalent to?

Please ask me any audio questions that you might have, and I'll do my best to help you find the right solution at the pricing you want. I think everyone that clicks on this thread just wants to see a video of this madness being unleashed on unsuspecting players.

17-10-2013, 18:21
Yeah...a $200 rig is probably bigger badder and better than what I'm looking for. Thanks for the recommendations, but the rig I'm building isn't meant to do too much. I'm kind of dead set on the Nano because the remote I got uses that Apple jack on the bottom of the iPod. I can get an old one of those for like $5 on ebay or in the crappy Batah area near my compound. It just has to be functional, nothing more. The tank itself isn't meant to do anything but drop the occasional wub wub. The titan is going to be a Warhound equivalent, so it's got *some* room in it to play around. At this point, I'm going to just get a set of 2 cheap bluetooth speakers next time I'm in Bahrain and try just sticking them whole into a couple holes I plan to drill in the body panels of the titan. I don't expect to get any kind of pro level sound out of this rig. It's pure novelty more than anything. After looking around I realize what I was looking for is not an equalizer but a music visualizer, and I can't seem to find one that is keychain sized that I could fit into this mess of a project. And they're expensive as hell! I may have pouted a bit. But I did see a few digital photo keychains that show a slideshow and have 1.5" screens. So, that could be a cool addition. I mean, come on. How many people's armies are going to have animation?

17-10-2013, 18:26
Only the skilled and the brave. I'll post up if I run across any obscure Bluetooth speakers or novelty keychain music visualizers (I've seen the hats and shirts locally, why not keychains?).

17-10-2013, 20:26
I was thinking just now as you mentioned the idea of using a Tank as a base for your sound system, you could use This concept:

We begin with the humble Devilfish chassis - you need maybe three speakers - the first two are moderate size, you fit them in the engine pods. Hooks up to an Ipod's headphone jack. The Third one is set in the bottom of the hull - Use the Landing Gears, gives you the space to work with. This is your low-frequency speaker, and can, owing to the size of the actual chassis, afford to be bigger, and thus have better output to put out the bass effects for your sound system.

You might have to figure out how you want to do the sound hookup, but you should be good with that - you can get good output speakers in small sizes, and they should be able to fit in that configuration I outlined for you. The rear-aspects of the bass speaker get the benefit of standing up inside the nose section hump. You could also drill a secondary hole near the speaker so its vibration effect amplifies, much like how some good stereos have an air-tube out the speaker - it's not for ventilation, but to really take advantage of the vibrations from the speaker system.

Of course, your Titan could well include your sound system, as it might have more space to accomodate a truly beefy system.

Just the ramblings of one of the mad scientists around the forum. Hope they help.

18-10-2013, 10:39
Only the skilled and the brave. I'll post up if I run across any obscure Bluetooth speakers or novelty keychain music visualizers (I've seen the hats and shirts locally, why not keychains?).

I know, right? That was exactly the same thing as I was thinking. I've seen these things on all kinds of products, from apparel to coffee mugs. You'd think a keychain would just be a logical step. Only thing I've seen are the keychain photo frames, which should be a fairly easy fit (and are like $10, so I won't feel bad about accidentally destroying it). The question is, just how pornographic should the slideshow be? Very important question :P

@Sauragnmon: There's really not enough space in the engine pods to mount speakers. Even the tiny one I'm using would be a bit of a problem to fit into those nacelles since they are quite thin in most places. I'm going with just one single mini-speaker which should be loud enough to be heard, but won't be rattling the windows. I've tested this thing and for its size, the little bastard puts out some real volume. The titan is what's going to have the multiple speakers and more functionality. I'll figure that out when I get back to KSA and get my hands on the kit.

Edit: I've been thinking about mounting speakers in the nacelles. What if the speakers *were* the nacelles? A matched pair of appropriately sized, battery/rechargeable powered, very high tech looking speakers could conceivably work. Of course, these things tend to be cylindrical and that makes mounting it onto a flat surface a bit of a challenge, but plumber's putty and patience will serve to sculpt a flat surface on which to mount such a thing. They only weigh a couple ounces a piece, so a couple pins and a scored surface should be enough to secure it in place with just superglue. Now, I have plans for flickering lights in the engines, so I'm going to stick with those for right now and try the single speaker format at the moment. But...hmm...that is tempting.

18-10-2013, 22:36
Either way it could work, with the Nacelles and speakers.

An alternative that I thought of afterwards would be using the side hatches - you could put them on in order to actually protect the speakers during transit if you wanted to.

As to getting a means to fit them, you could semi-cut a piece of pipe to match the join you need, with the rounded edge. From there, take some decent sandpaper and wrap it around the curve of the speaker. Sand with that edge, smooth the fitting, bob's your uncle.

When I was a teenager (some 14 years ago, roughly), I knew a guy who actually turned a backpack into a boombox of his own. Amplifier, speakers, whole shabang, wired it himself. Was pretty impressive.

19-10-2013, 07:08
The backpack boombox is something I've been rolling around in my head. But it's being saved for next year's power armor cosplay.

20-10-2013, 09:31
I was shopping for souvenirs at the Pattaya night bazaar and I came across a one of these:
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Beats by Dre Bluetooth rechargeable speaker with an internal MP3 player and a slot for a micro SD memory card. How fabulous is that? Only thing it doesn't have is its own remote control, but it can be controlled from my smart phone. Good sound, and even decent bass. Tested it out in the market and it cut through the commotion of the bazaar very well. $20, after haggling. I freaking love shopping in Thailand, haggling is like a little mini-game that makes spending their technicolor neon hologram money even more fun. They had one that was slightly smaller, vertically, but only by about a centimeter (not enough to warrant it) and it was less powerful. It also didn't come in purple. One neat thing is that it's got multiple different colors of LEDs in a ring around the base. I need to figure out if they can be enabled/disabled, or programmed a certain way. *****After testing, it looks like the LEDs are set up to slowly blink purple, with a red LED that also comes on when it's plugged in and charging. There are also yellow ones, but I think those are for errors?

Just tested it. Holy crap, this little thing is like a surprise uppercut you never see coming. Shook the table with its bass. Okay, I'm thinking this is one hell of a speaker, its small size notwithstanding. The question is, do I try to open it up? Hmmm...looking at the case, there does not appear to be any easy access points such as screws or other obvious fasteners, so I can only assume that it's secured by either glue or clips. At this point, I think it's safe to assume that it is about as small as I can reasonably expect it to be. The actual diameter of the speaker is about equal to the diameter of the whole unit, so if I were to carve this thing up I doubt it would become significantly smaller. Oh snap, Boogieman just came on and it totally rocks. *throws up the horns* Now, because this thing is pretty much limited to a cylindrical form, that makes it a bit difficult to integrate into my tank. It's pretty heavy for its size, too. I won't be able to hide the speaker if I put it in the Hammerhead (might still be too big), so I'll have to play up the idea that the HH is a sound machine. I might try laying the spare Riptide shield I have over the center of the speaker, to try and blend it into the aesthetic of the Tau, as long as it doesn't dull the sound. This might take some experimentation to get it completely right, but I'm going to have nothing but time on my hands.

One thing I saw that I immediately geeked out on was a pair of small bluetooth speakers that might have worked on the titan. Way too big for the tank, though. What made them cool was that they had LED visualizer effects and shot jets of color-lit water straight up in the air (inside a glass case, of course). Maybe that would be overdoing it. Who cares.

Alright, I head back to the desert tomorrow night, and it's going to be a *very* long day as I have to jump on a train upon landing and go straight to work when I finally get back to Hofuf. There will be much sleeping afterwards, but soon this week I am going to start tearing into new projects and trying to finish up the last of my project backlog.

20-10-2013, 11:45
I'm sorry but 'I hate you' - your efforts have inspired me to do some mods on a Hammerhead. I've just hacked apart an old Star Wars lightsaber toy that had sound effects and I think I've managed to get it small enough to fit in the back end of a Hammerhead. I'm thinking lightsaber = grav tank for sound right? The coolest part is it has tilt switches to give different swooshy lightsaber noises! Probably need to do some lights as well though.

20-10-2013, 12:33
Dude.....DUDE that is AWESOME!!! I hate you so much for making me want to do that now. How freaking sweet is a whooshing lightsaber grav tank going to be? Okay, have to calm down and not squee like a five year old girl with a new puppy and a mountain of cocaine. lol

Oh, one other thing, the speaker I got is not actually Beats by Dre, but a knockoff that's floating around on the interwebs under several different names. I think one is the Sanny S-10. So yeah, knockoff but very high quality. Also, just tested it out and I'm very relieved that, as long as my phone is paired with it, nobody else can pair with the speaker. That's great for a tournament setting, where the jerk I just tabled would likely try to pipe in fart sounds at super high volume.

20-10-2013, 15:03
I would like to see and raise you guys with a concept.

I see your swooshy lightsaber effects, and raise you the thought of putting the light emitter and glow rod in the railgun barrel. If you could get it small enough, it would look badass.

20-10-2013, 17:13
This thread just keeps getting better. Light saber tank is an amazing idea.

On the speaker, good thing it's a knock off. With anything Beats, the fakes often have better SQ than the trash put out by Beats.

20-10-2013, 19:47
See, this is why I wish it were possible to actually get all your interweb homies together in a room for brainstorming. All this back and forth has generated some really cool new concepts. Now, as far as the glow-rod railgun is concerned, the actual light source from the toy is probably going to be all wrong for the project. HOWEVER!!! I think there is some great potential in that idea and when I get back to KSA I will delve into my kit to figure out how to do a long lighting strip on the railgun barrel. My current theory (needs extensive testing) is that you could use a long piece of acrylic rod like what I do with the green necron rods. Alternatively, you might be able to take sandpaper to the outer surface of a piece of fiber optic wire and make it emit light that way. OR you might actually get some EL (electro-luminescent) wire to use for the project, though the products that are available for that are usually much too large and I have no idea how to work with the stuff. Would be kind of cool to learn, now that I think of it.

@jri0t68: I am absolutely satisfied with the device so far, fake or not. The fact that it said Beats on the box was just a novelty factor for me (and the Beats logo almost works as a tau sept symbol). The bomb speaker I was working with before trumps it only in terms of small size, since it's very easily broken down into its components without reducing quality. This *does* lead to a bit of a conundrum, though.

On the one hand, the Bluetooth provides excellent sound for its size, and *could* fit on the hammerhead. However, I think the bass will rattle the hammerhead chassis pretty excessively. On top of that, I want to be able to use the hammerhead's bass cannon with the little remote control I got. So I think the Bluetooth is going to be used in the titan build while the hammerhead will get the Bomb speaker with the remote and the ipod. That way, the titan can blast good quality music, and at the same time I can trigger the bass cannon for the shock/novelty value of the hammerhead. Also, in the titan build I'm going to have more room to work with in case I need to put in some kind of padding to keep the thing from rattling the model around. jri0t, I'm going to have to pick your brain on that topic when the time comes, so don't stray too far :P

20-10-2013, 19:53
I'm glued to the thread. More than my own lately, but that's mostly due to funding.

I wonder if you could wire in LEDs to the speakers on the titan in a manner such that they strobe to the music.

21-10-2013, 08:49
I'm sure it could be done. But the question is do I have any of the know how to do it? Nope. At least not currently. The closest I could get would be to gut a set of speakers that had lights in them already, like the ones I described earlier. That, in turn, would be contingent on the shape and complexity of the guts within.

Now, one thing I can do is utilize one of the effects micro controllers from powered play, once they come out. I also have flickering and color changing LEDs already in my possession. So I have options for some fairly ghetto animation effects.

I just had a thought. Two actually. One: Use a very small electronic photo frame as a battle standard, scrolling images of the emperor, primarch, whoever. Two: load one of these Mp3 players up with sound bytes from dawn of war, so that your leader could give inspirational speeches throughout the battle. Works great for chaos or imperials.

As I type this I'm waiting in the Queen Victoria pub for my taxi to the Bangkok airport. The desert will actually be a welcome respite from this humidity.

21-10-2013, 17:24
Thought I'd chip in again - my lightsabre didn't have any light effects but was one half of a set. The other half being an animatronic Yoda! The lightsabre had infrared LEDs and Yoda would train you in the ways of the force (for which read you waving the lightsabre around like you're conducting an orchestra). He has sound (various grammatically challenged phrases), an infrared detector and eyes, mouth and ears that (vaguely) move. So far I've not come up with any uses for him, but as I write I am beginning to form an idea around a converted riptide that is used as a massive pulpit for an ethereal to preach the gospel of the greater good (and stomp and zap any non believers). Currently he is being stubbornly difficult to get into.

On the subject of old Star Wars toys I also have (somewhere) a weird looking troop transporter thing (I think its from Empire Strikes Back) that has half a dozen different sound effects, which I'm sure could be re-purposed.

Also of interest to you guys might be this - http://www.maplin.co.uk/sound-to-light-led-22545 (Maplin is a great if somewhat intimidating shop here in Britain). They have quite a few other bits and bobs that could be useful.

23-10-2013, 05:54
So now I'm back, from outer space. You just walked in to find me here with that sad look upon my face. That sad look is from not being in Thailand anymore, which would make anyone cry.

But hey, now there's models. No gogo girls in jacuzzi tubs, but models. Life is all about trade offs, apparently. On the bright side, I had a ton of back ordered mail waiting for me when I got back, and that included a LOT of bits and bases and other things that made me feel like a mad scientist ready to sew a bunch of poor critters together into an atomic monster. And there was also one other thing. So, I've been talking about the tytanz projjekt (I play 40k, spelling comes second to sounding more grimdark!) for a while and now that it's finally arrived I think I can share a bit with the class:

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131022_180112_zps2b9efdef.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131022_180112_zps2b9efdef.jpg.html)

Yup. Metal Gear Rex all up in here. This post is now 80% more BANGARANG.

Now, the model advertises an 8 inch standing height when finished, and the overall dimensions match the Warhound Titan pretty closely. So now it's a matter of putting it together and turning it into a Tau war machine. If anyone is interested, the kit is $80 roughly on Hobby Link Japan (usually back ordered, so be prepared to wait for it) and is already close enough to the Tau aesthetic that you shouldn't need too much work to field it as your tau titan. Of course, I'm kind of a maniac and I want to make mine crazy. That brings me to a few distinct challenges with the kit.

1. Scale: The "jaws" of the model open up to reveal Liquid Snake at the helm, and at first I thought to myself that it would be awesome to pull his mulleted self out and shove a sexy tau girl into his place. Simple fix, right? Well, no. Turns out that the various character pieces included are at a little bit larger than 15mm scale. Maybe 20mm-ish, or 15mm "heroic" scale or something like that. Either way, too damn small. So most of the cockpit assembly is going to have to get chucked and I'll need to see if it's possible to get the captain's seat from a Piranha into the thing's mouth. Aside from that, I have no clue how a lot of things are going to fit with my planned mods because this thing comes in a billion pieces and makes me realize what utter amateurs we 40k modelers really are compared to our anime-fueled Japanophile cousins.

2. Armament: One thing that 40k models tend to have over, say, Gundam models is that our guns are way cooler. The gun on Wing Zero might be capable of blasting an entire colony out of the sky and zapping droves of enemy mobile suits, but when you look at the thing it is still just a long, featureless, single piece of plastic that requires a lot of suspension of disbelief to believe it is capable of violent acts. You look at any Imperial weapon, and the sheer number of chainsaws inform you that it is here to kick ass. So that big railgun/energy projector looking thing on top of Rex will likely have to go, as will the radar dish on the other side. As for their replacements, that's going to be part of the challenge. I know that I have the spare Railgun from the Hammerhead, and that it is way too big for that size tank anyway. So I'll try fitting that to see if it's too puny or just right, and then go about embellishing it and creating some kind of super weapon out of it. I also have the legendary Karasawa cannon from Armored Core, which turned out to be too big for the Doctor's riptide (still haven't received the Doctor and companions yet, need to email that company). And last but never least, I have the gun from the Necron Doomsday Ark, which is gargantuan in and of itself. So I have three possible super heavy weapons, and then the Beats speaker. Now, depending on how that radar dish is constructed and how big it is, maybe, just maybe, I can actually slide the speaker into that same mounting. This would preserve some of the original Metal Gear Rex shape, which has become iconic like anything else with such a history, while still giving me the modded look and the light show provided by the speaker. More than anything, though, I'm thinking that I want to try and move the weapons downward so that they hang below the shoulders like a Warhound. I've always thought Rex's weapons looked a bit tacked-on to the robot.

3. The Box: What? You can't build a 40k Metal Gear without having someone sneaking around in a box marked "To Skyshield Pad" on it. Possibly also an invisible ninja. Standards, people.

@GMAD: That is a cool little doohickey, but I think it's just an on/off indicator for when sound is present, like to tell you if your microphone is working or something like that. It doesn't look like it would act as any kind of a visualizer to create a fun light show, just a constant "On" indicator whenever a track was running. Good find, though. When I was in Pattaya, one of the things at a lot of the bazaars was those little mini laser light show projectors. I should have bought one just to play with it and try to gut it, but at the time I saw it and thought it was way too big. Who knows, maybe I could have broken it up and moved some of the parts around? Anyway, they're on ebay and such if anyone feels confident giving it a try. Search for "mini laser projector" and maybe you'll find something. Perhaps if I was working with something big and boxy like a Land Raider, then it might fit. Baneblade? Much better chance. If nothing else, you could cut out a big chunk of the rear hull and have the back of the projector sticking out as a big reactor module or something.

Further brainstorming, objective markers: So, I think I'm going to use the heavy metal marine as an objective marker, and I need a couple others. One that I'm thinking of is Cortana, using one of the transparent plastic figures and a blue LED n the base to give her a glowing hologram effect. I also want a hot tub full of naked girls in my army somewhere. This actually started as a project in my GK army that never quite got finished. A chimera that had the open topped transport bay from a Shadowsword kit added to the back and lots of pipes for heating. I never got around to filling it with water effect and sinking a bunch of naked girls into it. So now this army might have to have that sort of thing happen. One route I could take with it is an objective marker, though it would be a bit big and you couldn't realistically stand another model on top of it. I could....wait, scratch that. Nope, nope nope nope nope nope. Why the hell didn't I think of this before? Now I just need to find an appropriate sort of ring shaped bit, or a square with rounded corners, to act as the rim of the hot tub, a piece of PVC pipe would work. Then it just goes on the Hammerhead chassis over the hole where the turret would normally go.

As for the hammerhead, I took the rest of the casing off that speaker and now I need to find a place for it. One good spot for it would actually be just behind the cockpit, sunk into the hull and facing forward/upwards, very obvious but probably with some kind of a bit over it to protect it from any impacts.

I think that after this tau project is complete (and the guard that go with them), I am going to have to get a 40k-playing friend to go to my folks' place and find all the various components of various old projects I never finished. The attack dog dreadnaught, the party barge, the inquisitorial hot tub, I think it's all eventually going to get finished while I'm out here. Nothing like years' worth of free time to get your armies all painted up and pristine.

23-10-2013, 08:42
I found this picture that's REALLY helpful for planning out the titan project (note: grimdarkian spelling aborted).

Having the individual assembled parts laid out like that is super useful for me. Especially useful are the portions that show how the cockpit breaks down, and the assembly and internal spaces of the back/torso/shoulder or whatever you want to call the piece behind the head. The hunchback. Okay, so the head can be broken into two distinct segments, the "eyes" and the "beak". The beak of course breaks down into a further two sections, which is how we get the open jaws look that is so iconic of Rex. Now, within the beak structure there is the problem of width when it comes to inserting a tau pilot, since it was scaled for a ~15mm figure. I'm at work right now, but tonight I will likely go in and find the components of that and see how they measure up to the Piranha seat. The good news is that there seems to be several layers to the hull composing the beak, so if nothing else I could just rearrange some of the armored plates and sub in some panels from the Bandai accessory sprues I already have, and widen the lower jaw enough to fit the new pilot.

Oooh...that actually brings me to an interesting place. What to do with the pilot? It should be obvious by now if you've been reading my log (if you haven't, would this sentence even apply since you'd skip it anyway? I could say anything I want, like that you're a total wang taco and you'd never know about it because you're just skimming the pictures and while I'm at it why don't I get really silly and make myself a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and slice it diagonally like they do at restaurants, not because it makes the sandwich any better or worse but because it makes me feel fancy for doing it) then you'll no doubt already know that I have a significant love of the female form, and a penchant for modeling sexy females with little to no clothing. It's art, don't judge me. And don't give me that look, either. So, with all that in mind, it should come as no surprise that I'm considering putting a sexy girl in the pilot's seat of Rex. I suddenly find myself wondering if I can do a more or less nude female model in the seat as far as having no detail on it, then painting her body up like a plug suit from Evangelion. Or sculpting a japanese schoolgirl outfit. Either way, it's something I'm thinking about and it would be anime as all hell, because you can't build a giant robot of doom without giving it to a 12 year old girl to pilot. Alright, back to the widening of the beak and such. If I can't widen the actual pieces enough, I can always switch the bottom section of the beak with a Piranha hull, which I happen to have from a recent bits order and which is naturally made to fit the Piranha pilot chair like a glove. Yet another alternative is to forgo the idea of the pilot's seat altogether and instead suspend the pilot within the maw of Rex by any number of cables and wires hooking her directly into the machine, kind of looking like the adjutant from Starcraft.

Looking at the individual components like this, I can say that the speaker is going to be a slight challenge. The hunch is nowhere near as thick and blocky a piece as I initially assumed from looking at the finished model in pictures. However, one nice thing about how many pieces are in this kit is that I can expand upon that particular portion of the model without too much fuss, likely just by adding something underneath it to accommodate the extra mass of the speaker module. Likewise, I'm trying to figure out exactly where I would put the picture frame if I decided to use that as an added effect.

Edit: After looking briefly at the individual parts of the head, I'm thinking I will need to replace the beak with some appropriate tau pieces in order to fit a pilot in there properly. Furthermore, the more I look at the scale of the figure, the more I'm starting to think it's going to be ever so slightly too small to scale up to a Warhound. In any reasonable playing environment, no problem. But you know that there's going to be that one complete douche bag (Ken, I'm talking to you and yes it is a real problem and you need to stop that nonsense) who absolutely hates fun in any form and pitches a fit if you don't have every detail exactly correct. Solution is that I'm going to build up its base a little bit and have it smashing through some ruins or something like that. Or perhaps build some kind of halo or wing assembly or some other insane embellishment (no clue yet) to add height to the model and make it more intimidating. Last but not least, I am going to have to do something silly with the crotch mounted weapon. The only question is, chainsaw and truck nuts or naughty japanese tentacle action? I actually have the bits for both (there's something wrong with me). Does it need a tail? Maybe it could use a tail. This is going to be such an in-depth build. I am really torn right now between diving into this titan project and continuing to flesh out and finish existing or smaller projects.

Further Edit: Lights. Where are the lights going and what colors are they going to be? Hell, what color am I painting this thing? Purple could work, obviously my base color scheme works well enough. But I'm thinking a lot of black accents and black panels, with different lining styles for each color. Red/orange glowing lines for the black panels, the blue/white glowing lines for the purple. Then I suppose I can do the lights in concert with that scheme, with blue/teal/whatever in the purple panels and a nice red or orange light scheme in the black panels. I also want to run a single LED into the cockpit, either pink or purple or even blacklight (I have a few of those). And then there would also have to be lights in the guns. So, looking at all that, I'm actually looking at maxing out one of the Powered Play alpha kits in this thing. That's pretty sweet. Looking at the way the weapons are mounted on it, they are already perfect for what I'm going to do. The railgun can easily be switched with the one from the Hammerhead, and the Radome can be either taken off or drilled out and used as a mount for the Doomsday cannon. Battery is probably going in the base, since I'm building it up anyway, so that I can get to it and change it easily. Circuit board for the lights...not quite so sure. Depends a lot on which version of the PPAK I end up using (there was an earlier one with a built in switch that I think could run more lights). If they run the same number of LEDs then I'm going to use the one with the external switch for easy on/off action.

Musings on the pilot idea: I have those female tau torsos and heads from Zealot. I think I'm going to actually go with a more or less clothed pilot, despite my earlier impulse to throw a naked tau girl in there (plenty of those coming later, anyway). Still kind of considering painting her up as a tau version of Asuka from Evangelion. I'm going to pretty much strip the inside of the lower beak to make room for a set of either FW legs or Piranha chair, then add the female head and torso to that and some wires and plugs connecting her up into the rest of the head. Gonna look sweet.

Dammit, why am I stuck on day shift where I can't work on any of my projects? Last day for this, thankfully. You can tell how bored I am by how much I'm mulling this over at work.

24-10-2013, 10:42
To-do list for this weekend is as follows (for models, at least):

1. Finish Painting Shagnasty, capping off the first FW squad
2. Finish painting and then basing the Abyss
3. Begin basic hull assembly on the Hammerhead

24-10-2013, 13:27
I'm planning to put it on a longer base so that you can really see the ground effects better.

How about sticking a load of these (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5000-CLEAR-WEDDING-TABLE-DECORATION-DIAMONDS-GEMS-DIAMANTE-SCATTER-CRYSTALS-/310696761503?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Celebrations_Occasi ons_ET&var=&hash=item4856f8589f) to the Piranha's base?

Just Googled 'em. Not on my favourites, or watchlist or anything... :shifty:

24-10-2013, 14:38
So I guess you mean use them to scatter the light and make the glow effect bigger? Good in thought, but from all the experimental stuff I've tried like that it doesn't generally work as well as you'd think. The long chariot bases I ordered came in, though, which means that the Piranha can be transferred to a new base so that the glow effect and the explosion effect on the base will be much more pronounced and visible.

Okay, so, Hammerhead whining commences now. In my head, the dimensions and shape of individual parts were slightly different and now I'm all pissy because my idea to mount the speaker behind the cockpit won't work and I once again don't know where to put it. I was looking at the turret hole and thought maybe I could mount a hot tub right there if I built it out of a 40mm base, upside down with the rims built up vertically. Only down side is that takes up the portion where the speaker would naturally be mounted, and also kind of implies that the thing is a Devilfish transport instead of an Ion Head battle tank. So there's a problem there that needs to be solved by the application of a very large gun somewhere. Also, the cockpit looks kinda small and I wanted to do more with that so waaaaaaaaaah. I'm off in like 5 minutes and I'm gonna run around and play with my plastic dolls all night.

24-10-2013, 16:35
Okay so I was fiddling with stuff and then this happened.

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I think when I build the flight stand for it I'm going to magnetize/pin it so that I can change it out to a longer stand when I want to run it as a Barracuda. Look at that wing span and tell me it's not flier material.

Oh and this also happened somewhere along the line:

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I'm going for more of a Battletech/Robotech feel with this one, and it will count as a standard Riptide instead of a Ravarna.

Edit: I broke the tiny speaker I was going to use in the hammerhead. Actually, I just broke a wire that I can fix, and in retrospect I think it had to be disconnected anyway to feet the parts down through the turret. But still, a moment of total panic. I am having all kinds of second thoughts about this speaker and how sturdy it's going to be. I don't know if this little thing will hold up to the perils of life as a wargaming figure. I think the actual speaker rig might end up waiting for the next time I go to Bahrain and I can pick up a better quality micro speaker.

I've spent the last couple hours laboriously cutting into the vents on the engines. It better look as good as I think it will, because this is really arduous.

25-10-2013, 10:49
Alright, got a few ideas for you to try and ease the annoyances...

1 - Speaker placement: Can you mount it speaker-down in the core chassis? Is there any clearances to do it inside the body of the tank before any other factors come into play? Focus on that first, and then consider the other options. Could still go with my option for taking disconnected speakers and fitting them in the door hatches. You want tunes, gotta focus on accommodating the tunes first so you have that secure to play with other ideas.

2 - Gun Mounting: I was thinking you could hull mount it further down the nose from the cockpit, blending it into the nose hump below the cockpit so the driver can do the shooting as well. Would allow you to accommodate your hot tub coolness machine.

3 - The Hot Tub of Wub Wub: Does it have to be a full depth connection? You could always take the 40mm base, like you were suggesting, and if there is space, mount it Under the upper frame/turret socket, and above the speaker, once you have the speaker mounted. From there, build the bodies shorter, and use some water effects to help hide the rest of the body from view.

Hope the ideas help.

25-10-2013, 13:39
Mounting the tunes in the doors might be a good plan but I only have one speaker. It's the smallest one I've seen, but still just a little large for the side hatch. Maybe I could cut one larger though......hmmmm. I will give it some thought.

Hot tub and gun: I had the thought of combining them and saying that the tank uses the water as a heat dump for the ion cannon, thus creating a functional element to the design beyond the purely silly. So now what I am working on is coming up with a design for an integrated ion tub. It's great for the pores, and the latest craze in Commorragh.

Anyone care to comment on the hull design so far? I have since added some overcharged engines using the V-shaped portion of the ion cannon. Actually looks pretty badass.

Edit: I'm doing a trial run of a water effect in a 25mm base using elmer's glue and blue wash to see how it will turn out. I've done it before for various liquid effects such as blood splatters and such, but never on a very large scale, just a couple drips here and there. Also going to drop a random space marine helmet into the goo to see how translucent it is and how deep you can realistically see.

26-10-2013, 11:36
Frogress report:

I have just glued together the main portions of the wings on the Hammerhead and dry fitted some other parts in place. The speaker unit is now situated in a gargantuan hole in the side of the tank's hull. It fits snugly, but right now it's giving the tank a lopsided appearance that, though minor, offends my sense of aesthetics and so I will need to figure a way to balance it out. I haven't fixed the wire on it yet. This project is going to be ongoing for a very long while and I don't know that I want to subject the wires to any more stress than necessary.

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I just stuck that dark eldar in the cockpit to give you an idea of scale. That's not part of the design.

I have not yet found a really suitable bit for the hot tub. I'm considering the idea of stacking three or four 40mm bases upside down, gluing them together, green stuffing the outer edge to smooth it out and then hollowing the inner portion. Presumably that would give me enough depth to work with. The attempt at a deep water effect with the glue was a total no-go. It works great for making splatters and drips and such, but actual standing water it will not do. I may have to break down and order some actual water effects.

Right now, I'm thinking about modeling the gun rather ambiguously on the tank, so that it can represent an ion cannon or the FW double fusion cannons. Personally, I think the double fusion has a higher damage potential and I like the fact that it's AP1, thus devastating terminators and those annoying 2+ armor biomancy hive tyrants that refuse to die. The instant death against 2+ T4 models is going to be very worth while. I *may* also be outfitting it with tons of missiles and junk as well. I'm all like screw wysiwig, I'll do what I want!

Edit: I also magnetized the forward guns. This is primarily so that when I run it as a Barracuda, it will have burst cannons where applicable. I would never *not* run the SMS on the hammerhead. Thinking of also magnetizing the wings to help me store and transport it better.

When I look at the picture and the proportions, I kind of think of the Terran Battlecruiser from Stracraft. Not quite the same, but similar.

26-10-2013, 18:07
So, I called my mom about the smoke and dry ice conundrum. Don't laugh. If you'd ever met my mother, you'd be wondering why the hell I didn't call her at the start. She's the type of person who's got a working fusion reactor in her garage next to the exo-suit and the collection of personally rebuilt vintage motorcycles. She's freaking insane, and knows everything about everything. So, she happened to have done a lot of experimentation with dry ice for various projects a long time ago (go figure) and she explained that, while the idea for a small reservoir with perhaps a marble sized chunk of dry ice would produce a significant smoke effect, the effect would be exhausted in ten seconds or so because of how dynamic the ice is. She did however mention that it's a great party favor to make your drinks smoke harmlessly as a gimmick. So then she also had experience with heating elements, fog machines, and damn near everything that I've been brainstorming for the smoke effect (like I said, she knows EVERYTHING...I may have mommy issues) and absolutely none of it will produce a satisfactory effect. Now, maybe if I had a tank that was only being used for smoke, no lights no sound no nothing, I could hollow it out to afford enough room for a lot more of the ice and the effect would last maybe ten minutes or more. But for the Hammerhead, smoke is 100% not feasible.

With regards to the lopsided look of the Hammerhead right now, I plan to balance out the other side by adding a 40mm base and blending it into the hull with GS, then embellishing it with some tau bits so it doesn't look out of place. Remind me to sand the top of the base smooth so that the base's texture doesn't clash with the smoothness of tau design. Or don't remind me. Whatever.

I am also starting to have second thoughts about the Rex model's sonic ambitions. I had initially thought that the chest/back/etc was a single, chunky piece that would easily hold a decently powerful speaker. But as I browse the instructions and I really look at the pieces, there doesn't seem to be any wasted space in the kit. Kotobukiya has done a great job of making an incredibly intricate kit without any wasted space, which is great for the average model builder but awful for the overly ambitious modder. On the plus side, the two guns I have look like they're going to be the perfect size for the model to represent super heavy weapons.

Question, does my brainstorming in these posts annoy anyone?

26-10-2013, 18:17
Double post

26-10-2013, 19:07
Not annoying to me at all.

Could you build the sound for the titan into a base? Titan bases I've seen are typically thicker, and a speaker or two in a large boulder or pile of rubble or the corner of a diskotek on the base would be ample room.

26-10-2013, 21:49
Oh, well it could definitely go in the base but I'm trying to avoid that. It seems like a cop out, like admitting that I didn't have the skills to hide the sound within the model. It may just end up being the reality of the build, but I am going to try and make it work without resorting to that tactic. Maybe I'm just aiming too high on this one.

26-10-2013, 21:58
It wouldn't be a cop out, IMO, if you build everything you can into the titan itself, such as lights and player.

Alternatively, you could build a speaker or two into a tube (like a bazooka subwoofer, as seen below), attach it to the back and disguise it as an unnecessary jet pack. Maybe it uses jet thrusters to descend from orbital drop.


Wub wub jet pack seems very suiting to me.

26-10-2013, 22:57
That's...actually brilliant. I was thinking in entirely the wrong direction, trying to find a way to justify pointing the speaker up out of the model's shoulders instead of down out the bottom of it's torso like a giant exhaust port. I have no idea how to go about actually accommodating it, though. Up, in a sense, is easy because the weight of the speaker rests securely on the bottom of the model section. Having it protrude downward means that I need to actually anchor the thing into the rest of the model, which is going to be tricky. Speaking of tricky...how the hell am I going to recharge the speaker? I'm gonna have to leave one panel unglued or something, or else put the charging port somewhere really close to an edge and cut a hole. Or maybe attach the cord and just let the other end hang out the bottom, or something. I should probably figure out a way to have the speaker's on/off switch accessible so I don't always have a dead battery. Ugh. What have I gotten myself into?

27-10-2013, 02:38
Okay, ideas...

Supporting speaker weight-
I've been tempted to make a flying stand, mounting it to a jet pack, and wrapping it in wisps of cotton to represent steam. Doing something similar and making it look like smoke would support the speaker. You could even shine lights through it to give it more of a rave effect.

What type of cord is it? If USB, run a short extender cable and terminate it in an inconspicuous spot, flush with the body panel.

Off switch:
Connect and wire in a toggle switch and disguise it as an antenna.

27-10-2013, 10:05
@jriot: I think for supporting the weight, I'm going to go with building some kind of frame or extension for the actual model's chassis to hold the speaker. Something mechanical that will just blend in with all the rest of the gubbins. The only question is what to build it out of. I'm actually thinking things like maybe part of a sprinkler head or some other kind of valve so that it's hollow, possibly tapered or with a ring inside that will hold the speaker in place. I've always kind of hated cotton smoke effects, so I'm going to pass on those, but thanks for the suggestion. If it was anyone other than me with my irrational dislike for those, it would have been a great idea lol. As far as the off switch and the recharging, I'm not planning on breaking open this speaker, because as I mentioned somewhere earlier it's not a simple screw-together case that I could just pop open. This is really, really together and I think I would damage it irreparably if I tried to bust the case open. So wiring in a toggle switch is not really a good bet for me. More likely I'll try to leave a hole where I can get to it. Alternatively, while the speaker's business end comes out the bottom, maybe I can cut a hole in the top and have the bottom portion of the speaker (where the switches and charging port are) stick out the top. I can disguise it and blend it in with some bits and some paint work, and take advantage of the built in LEDs around the base for a flashing light show up top. Perhaps even mount some kind of ridiculous infantry model up on top of the speaker like it's some kind of a stage.

I'm going to have to go to SACO and do some hunting around for a sprinkler head or some such. If anyone wants to help out with a trip to their local hardware store, you can do so by finding something that looks like a jet exhaust port and can accommodate a 2 and 5/16 inch cylinder slid into it, without that cylinder slipping out the other end. A sprinkler head or something similar might be perfect. Scavenger hunt, GO!

Yo dawg, I head you liek XV117 Abyss Battlesuits.
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The shoulder mounted railguns took forever to paint, but I am very happy with the final product. I also went back and made some changes to the pilot, well really just to her boobs. I added white spots like the ones on her head, and I really liked how they came out. Designing alien genitalia is a tough job, lol. Eventually I will base the thing when I figure out what I want to do with that. I want to leave the base mostly flat out of principle, because I will be sending pics to the people at Poweredplay Gaming to show them that you can, indeed, hide their kit in a riptide without stuffing it all in the base. And also that their guy who did the build on theirs was incredibly sloppy. Just saying. Mold lines? On a company's display piece? Shame.

27-10-2013, 21:30
Question, does my brainstorming in these posts annoy anyone?

Are you kidding? Your mad ideas are a constant source of inspiration! It's part of the reason why I spend more time reading this thread than any other :-D

28-10-2013, 00:10
Alrighty, after skiving off work for a few minutes tonight I finished (more or less) Shagnasty, the Desert Pimp. At some point I need to go back and redo the lines on his thigh plates, because I just could not seem to get them to look right.

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Shas'Vre Bork'An Shagnasty, leader of the irregular line unit known as the Desert Pimps, is perhaps one of the more colorful personalities actively serving in the Tau military. Shagnasty earned his appellation whilst serving in the joint task force under Lord Commander Akira, during the first year after the fleet's departure from Bork'An. While scouting the desert wastes of a nameless moon on the Imperial side of the Damocles Gulf alongside a combined infantry force from the Rynnish 41st, his patrol was ambushed by a large number of indigenous reptilian carnivores. During the fighting retreat that followed most of Shagnasty's (then merely a Shas'ui whose most illustrious name loosely translated to "blandness") fire caste warriors were killed by the creatures, along with a great number of the Rynns. When, after many hours of treacherous desert crossing, the ragged remnants finally came into view of friendly forces, only Shagnasty remained uninjured. He led roughly thirty survivors both Tau and Human who, by dint of pure chance and the all female makeup of the Rynnish 41st, all happened to be female and who had discarded most of their kit to alleviate the desert heat. One soldier in the Rynnish 41st remarked that he looked "like some kind of bizarre pimp coming out of the dunes," and the name stuck. Naturally, having personally saved the lives of dozens of females, gratuitous copulation followed, during which, for reasons he has still never fully worked out, he earned the name "Shagnasty," bestowed upon him after the fact amidst a fit of drunken laughter in the communal mess hall. Since his rise to prominence, Shagnasty has become increasingly erratic and prone to outlandish, even ridiculous tactics. His unit specializes in combined charges and point blank fire support, "taking it into the enemy's teeth," to use his own words. The scale cloaks worn by his squad members are both honorary and functional, serving as an extra layer of armor and providing excellent heat shielding in hot climates and against some incendiaries. Shagnasty is also the founder of the Order of the Plume, an informal organization originally started as a joke. Membership into the order carries no benefits but the right to sport a scarlet feather, and the only requirement for entry is that the aspirant must successfully court Shas'O Darkblade. The number of members in the Order is surprisingly high.

The Order of the Plume is going to be a recurring theme throughout my Tau and various other forces. Anyone who sports a red feather on their person has bedded the lady who pilots that Archangel battlesuit, Commander Darkblade. Which should be a bit of a fun scavenger hunt for me down the line, as I'm pretty sure there were a good number of such feathers in my Space Marine forces (I really liked putting pimp hats on my marines lol). So this girl has really managed to get around. But, as I pointed out in the fluff thread for my Crimson Fists, they really really like Tau girls because they do that thing. In case anyone was wondering, this is the kind of fluff you end up writing when you can't have a girlfriend in your home country. Although I do have a lead on some Filipina nurses at a nearby hospital.

Okay! So! What's next? Aside from basing the Abyss (want to brainstorm on that first) I have accomplished my rather modest painting vow for the weekend. From here, I have a few main tasks ahead of me.

1. Re-base and paint the Piranha
2. Wire the sound and lights in the Hammerhead
3. Magnetize rear panel on Hammerhead and continue the build
4. Paint the Diplomat Suits

The Piranha is going to be fairly standard for my army's scheme, perhaps with a bit more white, but I want the Diplomats to be a bit divergent. I'm actually thinking an all-white with black recesses look, with purple helmets. I look at them and I think a stormtrooper look would work really well. As for the samurai himself, well, I might hold off on that one for right now until I feel inspired.

28-10-2013, 23:30
Primed a bunch of models tonight.

On the work table as of right now are the Diplomats, the Piranha and the Broadside. I don't know why, but I am actively avoiding painting my Crisis suits at all costs. Probably because I know there will be no template, no standard operating procedure for me to use and that each one will be a new and frustrating exercise in trying to compose a color scheme.

Still haven't gotten a chance to head to SACO and look for a valve or a pipe fitting or whatever to use with the speaker. It may be that when I get there nothing appropriate will present itself. That would suck, certainly, but at that point I might call someone in the states and ask them to scout a Home Depot for me. That reminds me. If any of you folks who follow this log want to help out, I'd appreciate you keeping an eye open for some piece of hardware that will camouflage a 2 and 5/16 inch diameter cylindrical speaker. I keep on thinking that a pipe fitting or part of a sprinkler head will be the perfect solution.

Edit: You should probably avoid priming your models in the dark, at night. You won't be able to see when one color of primer gets oversprayed and coats half of another model that was nearby. Some of my Diplomats wound up with a purple stripe down one side. Well, whatever, they're all getting painted white anyway. So I'm doing the Diplomat armor with black primer, then on the armor plates I did two coats of Celestria gray drybrush. The helmets got a layer of Xereus purple, and that's as far as I got on them. The suit and the piranha both got primed purple and then set aside. The cloth is getting left black, with some minor highlights. However, I can't help thinking I want to do something different with the feet on these models. Like maybe they need colored ankle armor or whatever you call the "socks" on fire warriors.

29-10-2013, 16:28
Some WIP of the Diplomat crew, about halfway through the armor painting.
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131029_064241_zps339f5eee.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131029_064241_zps339f5eee.jpg.html)

And here's a shot of the whole squad next to the Desert Pimps to show the contrast with my normal scheme:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131029_064353_zpsb20e0ad1.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131029_064353_zpsb20e0ad1.jpg.html)

Aside from looking cool, there's a bit of a reason behind this. Over the years of painting, converting, playing the game itself, I've noticed a trend. If you make a unit stand out in your army, your opponent naturally tries to murder it. Just look at it, that must be the enemy's command squad, right? I've seen it happen over and over again, with different armies, different themes and it has happened with some very astute and difficult opponents. Even after I clarified and said "No, that's just a regular unit," they still spent a lot of time and energy trying to kill it. Of course, it helps that the samurai leading the squad looks a lot like an Ethereal, I suppose. So the function of the Diplomats on the table is probably going to be holing up in a ruin and going to ground when they get shot at. With any luck this tiny unit can soak a lot of shots before they die/flee. Of course, with how over the top everything else in my army is, I have no idea if this will even work. In my old 3rd edition Tau army, way back when, there was a fire warrior squad with a little extra character added through some very minor conversions, and I think a standard bearer (I really need to build one for this unit), and even though there was and still is no such thing as a Tau fire warrior command squad, everyone still just assumed that to be the case. So the Diplomats are going to be a big red herring, and I may need to fill out the squad to really let them stand a chance of sticking around longer.

30-10-2013, 17:18
You know what? Looking at the fire warrior squads next to one another, I almost get kind of a Jedi/Sith vibe from them with all the light and dark contrast. Here's the current WIP of the same figure that I featured above. I've cleaned up the model significantly, touched up a lot of edges, spent way too much time doing black lining around all the plates, and started on some minor glow effects for the weapon. I haven't touched the helm yet aside from cleaning up the purple.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131030_173425_zps2bd8f842.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131030_173425_zps2bd8f842.jpg.html)
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131030_173432_zps9057d303.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131030_173432_zps9057d303.jpg.html)
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131030_173500_zps503921c6.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131030_173500_zps503921c6.jpg.html)

My thoughts about this unit so far are very similar to what I thought about the Pimps when I first started painting the test model. The color scheme looks off somehow, it's not coming together, et cetera. However, I believe it will go the same way as before, and it will all come together at the very end. Still not sure what color I want to paint the visor on this model. I'm thinking that an amber glass effect like the Master Chief's visor will work with all these colors that I have going on. I need to clean up the white and do a last highlight on it once all the rest of the steps are complete.

Okay, anyone else feel like I should paint the ankles/hooves white, as though they're armor plated like the rest of the body?

Captain Brown
30-10-2013, 17:55
Okay, anyone else feel like I should paint the ankles/hooves white, as though they're armor plated like the rest of the body?

Personal preference I guess...it would separate the model from the base more and give some definition...but I would try a test model first as it might look 'strange'.

My two cents,


30-10-2013, 20:20
Okay, I just did a couple quick variations of my ideas on two different test models. The white boots work really well. Hooves are being left black, with a simple highlight. The amber faceplate, though, I'm having some trouble with. The color is right, and I can see that clearer the closer I get to the right effect, but I'm having trouble getting it how I want. Trying some various experiments with washes and highlights to try and get an amber visor effect like the Chief's. Getting closer, and hopefully I'll have a good working effect soon. Granted, it's really not going to stand out on the models enough to where everyone will be all like "Zomg teh chief vis0rz!" But I'd like to have the technique down in case I ever do a Chief model in any army down the line. Let's face it, I might just do it.

31-10-2013, 18:58
Alright, so, one last WIP and then the final pics of the Diplomat test suit. This is after adding the boots and then cleaning up a lot of the rest of the work, doing the visor, et cetera:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131031_173328_zps6313b527.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131031_173328_zps6313b527.jpg.html)

And this is the final version of the model, after all the cleanup and additional details:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131031_211051_zps2a5cb79a.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131031_211051_zps2a5cb79a.jpg.html)
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131031_211058_zpsb7159557.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131031_211058_zpsb7159557.jpg.html)
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131031_211104_zpsa9809d83.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131031_211104_zpsa9809d83.jpg.html)
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131031_211115_zps3ead0aa0.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131031_211115_zps3ead0aa0.jpg.html)

Bling bling! A squad of those is going to draw so much unnecessary firepower down on itself. Cleaning up and highlighting the white took way longer than I expected, because it's all sooooooo careful and you know you can't make any mistakes. I'm very glad that this is a single, one-off unit and I'm not trying to do the entire army like this.

Okay, so, now that this squad is progressing at a good pace, I've started looking onward to other projects. I started building a standard bearer for the Diplomats, which will be something a little different. I'm kind of cobbling together a few ideas to make it really stand out. The hammerhead build is sort of stalled as I shop around for water effects on various sites. I'll have to wait around for it to arrive and then do some test applications before I can adequately build the hot tub. Not really sure how I want to model the fusion cannons. I might look to the Dreadknight kit and see if I have two of the heavy incinerators, which I think I actually might. I suppose I should make a decision about whether I'm magnetizing the wings. Ummm...no. No, if I really have to I will just buy an extra foam tray just for the tank and carry it around in its own shoebox or whatever. It takes up so much space in a tray, but I'm sure I'll figure out a good way to use it.

01-11-2013, 21:13
Oh, right, almost forgot. So as of yesterday it's National Novel Writing Month. For like the last decade I've had this book in my head that I really want to get hammered out in a rough draft format this month. It's sort of like a monthly painting vow, but with words instead of pigments. As a result of this, I won't be doing *quite* as much work on my Tau this month.

Asi the Red
01-11-2013, 22:12
You should do one Diplomat suit with the suit still folded up on the base, and the Tau pilot standing over it in a sharp business suit or something like that...

01-11-2013, 23:31
That is kind of an awesome idea. I may try to do the Tony Stark beard and arc reactor on him and everything. But that has to come much later. Right now I'm out of some of the various conversion parts I used, specifically the stealth suit burst cannon barrels I cut up to make the hip plates.

06-11-2013, 14:27
Almost done painting the Diplomat squad. The white is such an unbelievable pain in the ass to do in such a complicated pattern and so carefully. Last night I experimented with the GW texture paint Astrogranite, and found it a little lacking in the grit department. I mixed in some coarse black ballast that I normally use for urban basing, and the added grit made it much more usable as a basing material. At least in my mind. But then, I'm using it like a gap filler and such rather than an actual texture for a surface, clumping and slopping it on to create piles of rubble. Works great for that, but I'm sure I could paint it smoothly across a surface to roughen it up, too. I really want some of the new cracked texture paint, but I don't think I truly need it for anything. Anyway, I'll post pics of the squad once it's done. The novel is chugging along as well, if anyone's interested.

06-11-2013, 20:09
Snuck away for a few minutes tonight and put the last touches on. Actually, there's one or two little things I still need to do, now that I think of it, but here's the "finished" diplomat squad.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131106_233740_zps6ee7b7a2.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131106_233740_zps6ee7b7a2.jpg.html)
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131106_233751_zpsf18a7d4a.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131106_233751_zpsf18a7d4a.jpg.html)

Diplomatic immunity!

08-11-2013, 00:49
Okay, quick WIP of the Piranha to show how the paint job is coming together.
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/bossfearless1/20131108_040144_zpsc25e81e8.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/bossfearless1/media/20131108_040144_zpsc25e81e8.jpg.html)

I stumbled onto the great idea of using a darker shade of purple for accent panels instead of my usual tactic of going with a lighter color. Loving the effect. Unfortunately, there seems to be a bit of a discrepancy with the shade of the primer this time compared to Xereus Purple, my mainstay color. Not sure what changed, but the primer came out much lighter this time around. Also, I need to re-spray the Broadside because, as I stated in a post previously, it is a bad idea to prime in the dark.

You've probably noticed I'm focusing on painting at the moment instead of working on the big builds. One reason for that is because I am completely scatterbrained. Another reason is that I only get a few minutes at a time to work on my toys right now, and I can finish a painting step in that time, while conversion work should be done in much longer bursts. Last reason is because it will have to be painted eventually, no matter what, and I'd rather have it come together a little at a time along the way than have to hit it all at the end. This will stop me from getting TOO burnt out on this paint scheme.