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Whereswaldo
23-09-2013, 03:24
thoughts ?

-Totenkopf-
23-09-2013, 04:45
I'm going to say Eldar. They have the pieces to fill in the gaps like fire prisms, warp spiders, wave serpents and wraithknights with the speed to work well in tandem.. not to mention seer councils on bike as well as shining spears..

The Marshel
23-09-2013, 05:14
I'm going to say Eldar. They have the pieces to fill in the gaps like fire prisms, warp spiders, wave serpents and wraithknights with the speed to work well in tandem.. not to mention seer councils on bike as well as shining spears..

so eldar bike armies are better because they have tonns of non bike options to support their bikes?

in armies comprised almost entirely of, if not entirely bike mounted units, marines will have the edge imo, mainly due to better access to shooting weapons

Mojaco
23-09-2013, 07:04
Assuming all-bike, Marines, I think. Guardian jetbikes are comparible at range to marines, with shorter range but a 6" bonus move and the cannon, but lose out in HtH. I think having both in a single package is better than having a HTH specialist bike.

Im more curious about white scars vs dark angels, as those you actually see in real life.

Dwane Diblie
23-09-2013, 14:01
Marine Bikes are sturdier and have more options per squad.
Eldar Bikes are more versatile (being Jetbikes) and have larger numbers per squad.
Every Marine squad can deal with tanks if it needs to, Eldar can have to buy specific unit to do this and they can be expensive.
When you look at Marine Bikes you have to also look at C: SM vs C: DA and both are good and really different from each other.
If you chose Marines then you also have to look at chapter tactics. White Scars may seem obvious at first, but both Iron Hands and Imperial Fists make interesting bike lists.

So to answer the question...
ORKS makes da best Bikers!

Camman1984
23-09-2013, 14:08
If both entire armies are on bikes i would hand it to the eldar. Their pseudo rend makes a mockery of toughness and saves of the marines where as the bikers are still shooting at marines.

The eldar also have jetseer councils which would count for a lot.

Space marines are very versatile and would have access to bluechip units like biker vets but the eldar are just absurdly fast and would do everything they could not to engage the marines in a fair fight.

Do vypers still count as vyper jetbikes?

Horus38
23-09-2013, 14:10
so eldar bike armies are better because they have tonns of non bike options to support their bikes?

in armies comprised almost entirely of, if not entirely bike mounted units, marines will have the edge imo, mainly due to better access to shooting weapons

Well this would require clarification from the OP on whether he wants to smash armies of just bikes against each other, or if it's a broader question of bike themed armies (aka bikes being supported by non-bikes ;) ). I find Eldar bikes more versatile, that 48" flat out move is ridiculous for re-deployment and last turn objective grabbing/contesting.