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Hortwerth
05-06-2006, 21:15
Hi there,

I have painted the 9 pre-production Iron Brotherhood models that I got and were complete (the 10th had its leg broken :()

I gave them a simple paintjob; the only painted extra detail are the cog pattern on the hoods - the robes ones are already sculpted.

I didn't give them the grenade launchers nor flamers as I need those AP 1&2 weapons given the surrounding armies.

They took me some 9 hours on Friday and another one today (cleaned the red).

They are based on the Trash resin bases, which seem to be created especially for them (pure coincidence).

Enjoy!

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1406/ironbrotherhoodallsmall2xt.jpg
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3133/ironbrotherhoodamix2hv.jpg
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/3882/ironbrotherhoodbmix5qd.jpg

no-use4a-name
05-06-2006, 21:26
awesome...simply awesome.

They paint up really well. And, you did a great job with them. Can't wait for these to be available.

F4113N
05-06-2006, 21:27
beutiful, that about all i can say. no problems with it at all

NakedFisherman
05-06-2006, 21:50
Those look great.

Rabid Bunny 666
05-06-2006, 22:14
I have painted the 9 pre-production Iron Brotherhood models that I got and were complete (the 10th had its leg broken :()



That'll treach it to keep up with it's repayments :wtf:

Some more sterling work here, i'll have to get some of these as they do look cool painted up.

Denizen of Athel Loren
05-06-2006, 22:18
:eek: Amazing,simply amazing!:cool:
-DoAL

StugMeister
05-06-2006, 22:22
That is awsome work!!!!

I was impressed by the sculpting job and am now even MORE impressed by the paint job.

Stunning, just stunning.

Hortwerth
05-06-2006, 22:40
Thanks for the kind comments so far,

Now imagine that Exquisite Evil will get such a unit for free for coming with such a briliant name for them (as you decided)!

ExquisiteEvil
05-06-2006, 22:42
WOW !**drools**

They look even better painted than they did as resins!

I cant wait to get my (iron...;) ) hands on some and start painting em!

EE

>>btw - did you get my email Hortwerth?

Hortwerth
05-06-2006, 22:53
>>btw - did you get my email Hortwerth?


Yes, I got your e-mail. I'll notify you when we'll have the minis ready to be sent. I don't want to send you minis with some of the cables not casted.

Just remember, the best tip when painting resin models is to brush them with a paint-thinner and let them dry. Forget warm water and soap, the enamel paint thinner works better and evaporates quicker.

HPD_Andy
05-06-2006, 22:54
As always good looking stuff, how you find the time I'll never know.

Hortwerth
05-06-2006, 23:04
As always good looking stuff, how you find the time I'll never know.

That's just what I do all day long. Now that I have no studies and only have to divide my daytime between my work (miniatures), my fiancee, my hobby (miniatures), I find I have quite a lot of time to use on miniatures.

Ixajin
05-06-2006, 23:55
They look great! I look forward to getting some of my own once they're ready.

LostTemplar
06-06-2006, 00:34
I have a feeling they will look perfect as IW culstists. :D

The4thHorseman
06-06-2006, 00:46
Absolutely superb.

fattdex
06-06-2006, 03:27
man, they'll make perfect stormtroopers for my admech cult witch hunters :) I already have a unit of 20 zealots made from necromunda redemptionists and cawdors painted in the same style as you have them here, these boys will fill up a few troop slots nicely. Hortwerth, please keep me updated as to when these will be avaliable :)

Hortwerth
06-06-2006, 07:54
Now bear in mind they can easily be equipped with lasguns, boltguns, or any other GW weapon.

I will make a close combat weapons equipped unit next, these will double up as sergeants too!

The Hoff
06-06-2006, 08:08
Nice.


Very nice indeed.

Bra'tac
06-06-2006, 08:59
to bad i didn't win the MAS contest. now i have to buy these wonderfull :chrome: minies:D

The boyz
06-06-2006, 09:43
Wow they look very nice Hortwerth, brilliant paintjob. I love the tone of the red on the robes. It looks very smooth and well painted. I also like the freehand you have done on the cog design running along the bottom of the robes and the top of the hood. The metal areas and armour look great aswell. I really like the bases, they they just help to add that finishing touch to the miniatures. Good job.

Inquisitor Claissen
06-06-2006, 11:54
Sweet man...now I think is really possible to make an adeptus mechanicus army easily, and obviusly not totally GW!!

The Judge
06-06-2006, 12:29
But I want them now!

Any chance of a release date or price posted here?

Excellent work as ever Hortwerth.

Hortwerth
06-06-2006, 21:40
The price we aim for is around 2,5 per model.

I need Grzegorz to tweak the moulds, and he got sick today (he's a diabetic so there's no taking such things lightly).

It's an issue of making 2 or 3 air channels thorugh the moulds in the right places, but that requires the special ability of thinking how the mini is placed inside the mould (it's a one-piece mould, so only the holes being feet are visible from the outside)

fattdex
28-06-2006, 05:49
can i ask how you went about creating the bionic arms? I am creating a mechanicus army at the moment (and will be buying a bunch of these guys for it!) But I also want to create some electro priests, with bionic forearms. I see in your sculpts that some parts are plastic rod, are the hands and fingers all sculpted from putty or did you use tiny plastic rod for those too?

WillFightForFood
28-06-2006, 06:29
Hortwerth, just once could you do a bad job? It'd make a lot of us feel better.

Hortwerth
28-06-2006, 08:46
can i ask how you went about creating the bionic arms? I am creating a mechanicus army at the moment (and will be buying a bunch of these guys for it!) But I also want to create some electro priests, with bionic forearms. I see in your sculpts that some parts are plastic rod, are the hands and fingers all sculpted from putty or did you use tiny plastic rod for those too?

The forearms are various thickness Plastruct profiles. The fingers are sculpted with GS.

I will certailny be making models to count as Electropriests, they fit my bill. I don't like the "electric shock hair" image I've seen though, I'll make them much more sinister.


Oh, and we have the production moulds ready. They cast just fine now. It turned out that Grzegorz just told me the general idea of what to do and I had to tweak the models myself. A waste of time waiting for him, as I knew what he told me beforehand.
Now we're waiting for the cauldron and metal we've ordered, as MAS guys decided it'll be better to cast miniatures in white metal rather than resin. Then some new metal moulds need to be made, etc.

So if you really want some of these models now and you're not bothered that they're resin, just e-mail Micro Art Studio asking for it.

Agamemnon2
28-06-2006, 09:07
I'm thinking Storm Troopers. In a Chimera. Led by an Enginseer.

So, how do I go about ordering these once available? I take it I'll need a credit card?

fattdex
28-06-2006, 09:24
Hortwerth, thats awesome. I'm trying to build some based on this image created by a mod team member working on an admech mod for dawn of war:

http://lauch3d.com/electropriest.jpg

I'm going to go for this look, kind of a cybernetic tatooed Shaolin monk :)
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38263&highlight=electro+priests

Hortwerth
03-07-2006, 20:55
Some WIP pics of the unit leaders and ccweapon equipped models for Iron Brotherhood:

@Achromatic forum (http://z13.invisionfree.com/Achromatic/index.php?showtopic=14)

Hortwerth
04-07-2006, 19:16
What I'm making ATM:

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/738/trackedchassiswip040720062ab.jpg

Plus:
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/5777/wipsergeant56rh.jpg
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/734/wipsergeant41pq.jpg

Hortwerth
04-07-2006, 19:17
(...continued)
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/7632/wipsergeant32om.jpg
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/7982/wipsergeant29ip.jpg
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/5662/wipsergeant19xr.jpg

kermit
04-07-2006, 19:32
Those are GORGEOUS!

I think I am going to have to talk my wife into getting a bigger mortgage for our new house... So I can have money to buy the whole range of minis you are making here...

Everything here is amazing!

tzeentchgiant
04-07-2006, 20:32
Good lord :eek:.

I love the tank, any idea how much I thing like that will retail for?

I don't know what else to say really, superb, awesome, fantastic, inspired... it's all just top notch work, there's not one thing I don't like about them.

TG

Hortwerth
04-07-2006, 21:38
Good lord :eek:.

I love the tank, any idea how much I thing like that will retail for?

TG


Give some reasonable suggestion and we'll calculate the cost and see if its possible.

tzeentchgiant
04-07-2006, 22:38
Give some reasonable suggestion and we'll calculate the cost and see if its possible.Well that's the thing, I don't know. To stay in line with GW prices I think it could retail for 9-10, I'm not sure however, if it could go much higher, and I am sure that it would be prefered lower.

I'll see when it comes out on the online store :p :).

TG

fattdex
05-07-2006, 01:14
looking awesome :D:D:D especially love the tank legs, I could see a few iron warriors players wanting those too. Hmm, now I have to think of a possible slot in my army for some! For the brotherhood close combat guys, I'd love to see some long pointy drill arms <3

n00bLord
05-07-2006, 02:02
Awesome job on the minis. A good estimate price for the tank guys well 10-15$ USD (United States Dollors) would do fine if in metal.

Hortwerth
14-07-2006, 22:10
Some more work on the minis presented above:

The "Guardian" model. He has some stand-in arms in these pics, and I want to give him the arms based on the Power-lifter arms I made, but with a gun and drill mounted instead of the lifting "hands"
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9413/guardianwip4yr.jpg

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2415/cavalrywip6tq.jpg

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2853/leaders149xc.jpg

Hortwerth
14-07-2006, 22:12
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4108/leaders581rr.jpg

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9479/leaders9121vw.jpg


Obviously all is very WIP. I have the weapons formed (axes), but still need to make some nice technical all-issue pistols.

MrKoolAidMan
14-07-2006, 22:18
I gave them a simple paintjob; the only painted extra detail are the cog pattern on the hoods - the robes ones are already sculpted.

wow your "simple" paintjob makes me feel like my models were painted by a 2 year old.

fattdex
15-07-2006, 01:17
lookin great! those arms might not be able top reach anything on those tracked legs tho a bit short!

Siromcyre
15-07-2006, 01:50
Nice, simple and effective job. Well done, and in a good time frame as well.

Hortwerth
15-07-2006, 03:25
The heavier one (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=804791&postcount=38)will not even have hands, and will have the larger and longer lifter arms, with a long drill for left and some machine gun for the right hand.
The lighter one will have a long technical-looking spear or axe (like a polearm) and some pistol.

asmodai_dark86
15-07-2006, 05:09
When do you expect these guys to be on sale Hortwerth I keep checking on microart but theres not even a murmor - I know Im not the only one who wouldnt mind grabbing a few of these fellas.

ExquisiteEvil
15-07-2006, 06:42
Thought I might aswell post here rather than resurrect a dead one...

I have recieved my Iron Brotherhood minis that I won for giving them a name!

Excellent models Hortwerth - great job there!

Alas, because they are resin casts, there is quite alot of cleanup work to be done on them which I dont have time for right now - but as soon as I do Ill get a painting log going.

One other thing to mention is the adaptability is great. There are parts for fueltanks and plasma reactor backpacks aswell as the different guns themselves. Ill definately be getting a sarge or two once theyre available!

For all you AdMech fiends out there these models are a MUST!

Once again, great models Hort!

EE

chaos0xomega
15-07-2006, 07:21
I sent MAS an email about buying them in resin(I prefer it too metal). Are those tanks leg things also for sale?

fattdex
15-07-2006, 11:55
I think a lot of us are impatient to buy some!

Captain Ardias
15-07-2006, 12:44
Amazing work horthwerth, simply breath taking:).

Hortwerth
16-07-2006, 21:26
I sent MAS an email about buying them in resin(I prefer it too metal). Are those tanks leg things also for sale?

That's one way, just don't bother that they are not in the online store and take my word that we have the resin production moulds ready - send an e-mail to info@microartstudio.com and tell that you really want them and you can't wait and want them resin. The retail price is 2,5/model.

The tracked chassis is not quite available now - we have a mould but there was only one cast of it and I want to make all the upper parts until it's released. Also, I don't know if it'll be a metal or metal/resin hybrid model.

chaos0xomega
17-07-2006, 02:49
Okay, thanks. When(and if) I order them, do I have to ask for them individually, or will they be sold by the squad?

Also, might I suggest you be very very careful about how close your stuff resembles GW's(especially with the crenalation pattern on the robes).

If you have never heard of them, dreamforge-games( www.dreamforge-games.com , may they rest in peace) was producing 'crusaders', which were pretty much just 2 foot tall, very nice, and fairly cheap(compaired to Forgeworld) titans of their own design. GW got wind of this, and threatened legal action against them if they didn't end production of those two models(and there were only 3 models total). The only reason they were able to do this was because of the similarity between those models and GW's concept of a titan. So, yeah be careful...

Hortwerth
17-07-2006, 08:19
I just made normal 28mm models (hardly GW's concept) with some robes, hoods and padded armour (monks/medieval warriors), with the pattern on the robes based on medieval designs, and just gave them the dark future technical feel. A race after a cataclysm and this is the group that holds all remaining technology... Based let's say on Fallout Brotherhood of Steel...

Some say they are reminescent of Star Wars Ewoks, too...

chaos0xomega
17-07-2006, 13:36
No need to get all defensive, but look what their models looked like: http://www.coolminiornot.com/66848
http://theminiaturespage.com/news/pics/2004/oct/946654b.jpg

They pretty much did what you have done, set it in a dark techno-gothicy future, despite them hand making it from scratch and whatnot, and look what GW did to them.

Hortwerth
17-07-2006, 22:34
The most sad thing about it is that GW can't just use all these great ideas appearing around (make some sort of an agreement) and just smacks everyone down. Too bad for these awesome titans.

fattdex
18-07-2006, 02:41
I don't believe those titans were ever produced in the first place, I've seen those pics before and the lighting is waaay too CG (and they cg prototype models to produce them)

revford
18-07-2006, 10:32
Very cool models, I'll have to grab some when they are available in metal.

Would be great as Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, all robes and pipes.

Teufelskerl
18-07-2006, 14:26
I don't believe those titans were ever produced in the first place, I've seen those pics before and the lighting is waaay too CG (and they cg prototype models to produce them)

Don't confuse photoshopping with vaporware. While not many were made before GW's lawyers shut them down, there are a few out there. Check out the Seigeworld photo gallery for some in action like this one, here (http://www.siegeworld.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album05&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php).

Now, to unhijack this thread back to Hortworth's fantastic work...


Frederich

Tooooon
18-07-2006, 15:01
Stop making such groovy looking awesomely done and well painted models! :P

maraxis
18-07-2006, 15:24
another great one Hortwerth.

I really like the ones on tracks as well. I Cannot wait to see how they finish up, are you planning on any other minis for this line???

Finally on the ones with arms (for ccw's later on) one has a pin in his hand - are you planning on a standard bearer type of model??? or is he an "Emperor's Pointy Sticks - alla TSOALR - JK on the last part.

Great work again, you inspire many of us to do some conversion work of our own.

Hortwerth
18-07-2006, 18:20
The pin is just to align his hands in a straight line. He'll have a 2-handed axe held like the pin. Also, the pin gives them a real sense of scale given that Jacek's photos are always so high-res and crisp...

I started making a jumppack yesterday from some Plastruct profiles (larger round ones) and piping, and sculpted the turbine today. Need lots of cables now, but I almost depleted my guitar string stash and will have to buy some before I conclude.

chaos0xomega
19-07-2006, 22:03
Jumpacks, eh? Hortswerth, you are just making it easier and easier for me to finish my Dark Mechanicus army with every post you make. Good luck.

Anyway, I emailed MAS with the adress you gave me, but I still haven't recieved any response, I take it they ain't doing the resin thing?

ExquisiteEvil
20-07-2006, 01:11
Hortwerth,

PLEASE make the jumpacks cylindrical like the Pre-Heresy ones. If you do I for one will be buying for sure!

Oh and if you do make them available seperatly:D

chaos0xomega
20-07-2006, 03:58
Again, be careful how close it is to GW's stuff.

Anyway, Exquisite, judging by what he said(turbine) it will be cylindrical.

Hortwerth
20-07-2006, 10:05
Jumpacks, eh? Hortswerth, you are just making it easier and easier for me to finish my Dark Mechanicus army with every post you make. Good luck.

That's my point. To make things easier for people.


Anyway, I emailed MAS with the adress you gave me, but I still haven't recieved any response, I take it they ain't doing the resin thing?

Sorry, right now we have one dead computer and no internet connection, plus both our compressors died of heat. This means we are all but in a coma, with no contact with the outside world or ability to cast.

The 1st compressor should be back from service in under a week, the second a week later. No idea when we'll have the internet connection on, but the computer is almost repaired. Just playing dead from time to time.


Hortwerth,

PLEASE make the jumpacks cylindrical like the Pre-Heresy ones. If you do I for one will be buying for sure!

Oh and if you do make them available seperatly:D

They are cylidrical. Not sure if they will fit any model after I finish cabling them, but now they do. Nice idea on the separate availability.



Again, be careful how close it is to GW's stuff.

I by no means use any artwork or model of theirs, and though the very idea seems based on one of their ideas, I changed the look and feel of the models significantly. Plus being grown on GW stuff, it happens some things like proportions and such just stalk my mind.

chaos0xomega
20-07-2006, 17:14
I know, I am just trying to prevent another dreamforge and another dragons-den.

But, GW did at one point produce cylindrical turbine based jump-packs. I'd post a link, but I can't find a pic.

maraxis
20-07-2006, 20:21
ChaosOxomega;

I think you are referring to the old flight packs that GW produced for the Assault Marines back in the 80's. . . (that I can remember that scares me)

Hortwerth
20-07-2006, 21:02
Yep, they did, but they were not the onlu one. I guess some toys and some model helicopters have some parts similar to these.

I build it myself, and a jumppack is a jumppack, it has to have certain features to remain recognisable.

chaos0xomega
21-07-2006, 15:10
Alright, I give up trying to convince you to be a bit more careful with these things.

All what I will say is this, Dreamforge Games and Dragons-den both built their stuff themselves, and a giant robot with a gothic feel is a giant robot with a gothic feel, it has to have certain features to remain recognisable.

asmodai_dark86
21-07-2006, 16:24
True but this is the naughties - take a look at what mongoose are doing atm

It could be said that seeing as though (if i remember hearing rightly) GW had some creative imput into starship troopers, so shouldnt they worry about there light mobile infantry? Or the minbari space ships which look earily eldar like?

To be honest, I dont think they'd care - if they intended to do the relevant force, then they'd crack down, in this case perhaps not.

Anyway I'm sure Hortwerth is more cunning then your average gamer.. with the selling and the slyness .....

chaos0xomega
22-07-2006, 00:57
I hope so, I want my Iron Brotherhood minis!

Anyway, as for starship troopers, Andy Chambers left GW to do Starship Troopers, which might explain the similarities.

asmodai_dark86
22-07-2006, 07:43
No I meant the film. I have a gut feeling GW might have wanted that license many moons ago but never went for it, and had a creative influence on the film (bug design for example)

Hortwerth
22-07-2006, 08:30
Alright, I give up trying to convince you to be a bit more careful with these things.

I had lectures on IP and copyright at the Uni, and as long as there's creativity involved, even based on some other idea, it is considered copyright. I bet the dreamforge etc just capitulated after a "we're big company's lawyers, knee before us" message from GW. Even though the Titan is a bit too recognisable for my tastes too.

kendoka
22-07-2006, 11:29
Love how MAS is growing into a interesting manufacturer.
The bases are really cool and the sci-fi minis are looking really promising (although I personally think the Iron Brotherhood faces look crap - like a greenstuff blob with pressmarks from the tip of a pencil - would have looked much better if you had sculpted nightvision type eyes and re-breathers).


>Again, be careful how close it is to GW's stuff.

May I suggest using a non-GW paint scheme on the MAS home page (but linking to pics (FW style) with the "right" colours in a guest gallery. That way you could (in the guest gallery) even show the minis with GW weapons...
Sneaky, but as I see it legally safe.


You mentioned that you were using a one piece mould for the resin figs - and that you were switching to metal minis. I take it you will make a two piece mould then??

Hortwerth
22-07-2006, 11:39
Love how MAS is growing into a interesting manufacturer.
The bases are really cool and the sci-fi minis are looking really promising (although I personally think the Iron Brotherhood faces look crap - like a greenstuff blob with pressmarks from the tip of a pencil - would have looked much better if you had sculpted nightvision type eyes and re-breathers).


Yep, could have put more effort into these. I'll certainly do for some Lord type models. But, I battled with my attention span with these. Now that I know you quite like these, I finally may find some motivation to make later models for this range more refined.


>Again, be careful how close it is to GW's stuff.

May I suggest using a non-GW paint scheme on the MAS home page (but linking to pics (FW style) with the "right" colours in a guest gallery. That way you could (in the guest gallery) even show the minis with GW weapons...
Sneaky, but as I see it legally safe.

That's an idea we also had in mind. I plan to give some to some well-painting gamers around and ask them to paint them to fit their army.



You mentioned that you were using a one piece mould for the resin figs - and that you were switching to metal minis. I take it you will make a two piece mould then??

The one-piece was the first mould to test if they cast ok and what needs tweaking. Right now we have 2-piece moulds for resin casting for them, and the metal casting also requires 2-piece disc mould.