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Lance Tankmen
29-10-2013, 03:03
ok so in the far future i was considering an idea for a campaign, allowing 250 point no rules lists, as in no restriction no requirements. just 250 points from your army book. so i wondered if this would be stronger than say 500 points with the normal rules or not. maybe no lords? or level 4's. so besides those two problem list a 250 point list you'd take and without posting consider a 500 point list to see which of the two are stronger to you. hopefully being a campaign people will play fluffy lists... mine would be

to win
3 skullcrushers with ensorcelled weapons plus champion

for the laughs
giant of khorne
2 nurgle warriors of chaos with halberds

or just a decked out level 2

InquisitorAffe
29-10-2013, 03:51
No restrictions as in no minimum unit sizes or maximum specials/rares?

Ten individual doomfire warlocks!

Lance Tankmen
29-10-2013, 04:47
both yes. see the 2 nurgle warriors... 10 warlocks would be annoying.. but i consider that unit slightly OP for what you pay

SteveW
29-10-2013, 04:57
One HKB bret lord.

Greyshadow
29-10-2013, 05:24
For really small games, I suggest looking at the Games Workshop Regiments of Renown tournament pack they had on there website recently. If you go for 500 pts, I'd cap units to 15 for infantry, six for monstrous infantry and use normal restrictions. (Only reason for the restrictions is that you might get some turkey who tries to take a horde or something silly like that, you need at least four/five manoeuvre elements to make a game tactical enough to be worth playing in my opinion).

Lance Tankmen
29-10-2013, 06:18
For really small games, I suggest looking at the Games Workshop Regiments of Renown tournament pack they had on there website recently. If you go for 500 pts, I'd cap units to 15 for infantry, six for monstrous infantry and use normal restrictions. (Only reason for the restrictions is that you might get some turkey who tries to take a horde or something silly like that, you need at least four/five manoeuvre elements to make a game tactical enough to be worth playing in my opinion). i dont really feel 500 points needs a cap?? you need a character and 3 units... how can you horde? at best 20-30 models and 2 5 units plus a naked hero is the best i see happening. at 250 maybe some one will try n horde but so far the replies have been single models. even at 250 its not a problem.(my bad if you thought 500 point would not have normal rules, only 250 will be exempt.)

dalezzz
29-10-2013, 07:55
Would be interesting , shooting would be potentially very dangerous with small units.certain army's probably wouldn't be able to compete though.

Strongarm
29-10-2013, 16:18
Would be interesting , shooting would be potentially very dangerous with small units.certain army's probably wouldn't be able to compete though.

With no limits on upper or lower unit sizes I struggle to see which armies would struggle to compete?

Charistoph
29-10-2013, 16:28
For really small games, I suggest looking at the Games Workshop Regiments of Renown tournament pack they had on there website recently.

I'd look in this direction for a 250 point battle. An alternative, if you can find it, would be the old Combat Patrol (name?) rules which were made for 200-500 points lists. Some things would have to be adjusted for the new books, as this was a 6th Edition ruleset.

boli
29-10-2013, 16:37
You can fit in 13 white lions with full command BotWD for less than 250 points ;)

soullessginger
29-10-2013, 18:16
I've just started a campaign at 400 points based on old Jes Goodwin rules, 400 points, no lords, no more than 140 on heros, only one special and one rare, if you don't use a rare you can have two specials. Try googling warhammer fantasy Warband rules.



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-Totenkopf-
29-10-2013, 18:46
I'd run a Warsphnix with fiery roar and a horse archer..

frenka
30-10-2013, 23:09
I'd just run a steamtank :)

Lord Dan
31-10-2013, 02:29
125 individual Skaven Slaves.

brionl
31-10-2013, 03:04
I'd look in this direction for a 250 point battle. An alternative, if you can find it, would be the old Combat Patrol (name?) rules which were made for 200-500 points lists. Some things would have to be adjusted for the new books, as this was a 6th Edition ruleset.

Combat Patrol was the 40K version. Warhammer Skirmish is the fantasy game.

sepulchre
31-10-2013, 03:06
Vargulf, spirit host, and I think 3 fell bats fit. Or 5 individual spirit hosts and 2 fell bats.

Charistoph
31-10-2013, 06:00
Combat Patrol was the 40K version. Warhammer Skirmish is the fantasy game.

No, Skirmish wasn't the one I was thinking of, it had another name, like Border Patrol, or something.

InquisitorAffe
31-10-2013, 06:57
The fantasy version of a Combat Patrol was called a Warband.

Romark
31-10-2013, 09:28
I'd probably run a lvl 1 Dark Sorceress in a load of Corsairs.

Sorc - 80

15 x Corsairs (with Add Hand Weapon) - 165

Power of Darkness them, should be decent.

Odin
31-10-2013, 10:11
With no limits on upper or lower unit sizes I struggle to see which armies would struggle to compete?

Undead of either kind.

Bladelord
31-10-2013, 10:48
10 Fanatics just for the laugh.

Kingly
31-10-2013, 11:39
I think that's a great idea and for the campaign it would be really funny to see these armies running around a Mighty Empires board! :D

danny-d-b
31-10-2013, 11:55
as said a steamtank would win most of the time

issue is at this level its pretty much rock paper scissors

Gustav Kohn
31-10-2013, 12:21
20 Glade Guard

BTJ
31-10-2013, 12:26
125 individual Skaven Slaves.
I second that motion. Or Gnoblars.

Gustav Kohn
31-10-2013, 12:36
I second that motion. Or Gnoblars.

Both slaves and gnoblars would get destroyed easily. First unit that dies causes leadership checks for all within 6". You lose.

Lance Tankmen
31-10-2013, 20:20
isnt it rock paper scissors half the time anyone but on a larger scale?

Danny76
01-11-2013, 01:30
The fantasy version of a Combat Patrol was called a Warband.

Isn't Warband just the name from Mordheim.
I have fantasy rules called Border Patrol, very similar to Border Patrol.
So I thought it was that?

EvilBlackMagicDarkness
01-11-2013, 15:01
I'd look in this direction for a 250 point battle. An alternative, if you can find it, would be the old Combat Patrol (name?) rules which were made for 200-500 points lists. Some things would have to be adjusted for the new books, as this was a 6th Edition ruleset.

Warhammer Warbands? Written by Jeremy Vetock back in the day. You can find the pdf online with a google search. Basically normal games of WFB tweaked to work at the point level you mentioned.

Charistoph
01-11-2013, 22:22
Border Patrol was the rules I had, but those Warband rules could work, too. ;)