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emperorpenguin
09-06-2006, 18:17
These photos have appeared on the Mongoose forums, credit to Talarius.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/prelude_to_war/ws.jpg
White Star Gunship

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/prelude_to_war/drazi.jpg
Drazi Fireraptor Battleship

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/prelude_to_war/vree.jpg
Vree Battleship

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/prelude_to_war/centauri.jpg
Centauri Adira Battleship

Koraath
09-06-2006, 21:31
I've just got into ACTA and I love it. I'm really looking forward to armageddon and I love these ships but does anyone have any info on the Marathon advanced cruiser?

emperorpenguin
09-06-2006, 21:34
I've just got into ACTA and I love it. I'm really looking forward to armageddon and I love these ships but does anyone have any info on the Marathon advanced cruiser?

As a playtester I have loads

None of which I can or will share mind you! :p

Sorry to tease!

It is a nice ship though

Wintermute
09-06-2006, 22:37
Are these ships designs created by Mongoose, or are they based on little known designes from the show. EG The White Star Gunship, is it based on the original White Star, The Blue Star or just some designer's imagination run riot?

emperorpenguin
09-06-2006, 22:44
These new ships are designed by Mongoose, not based on anything from the show, though they do follow the established "theme" of those ships

Wintermute
09-06-2006, 22:50
These new ships are designed by Mongoose, not based on anything from the show, though they do follow the established "theme" of those ships

I thought so.

Naming a Centauri ship after Adira isn't something the Centauri would really do, is it :p

However, I assume JMS has approved what Mongoose has done with the new designs.

emperorpenguin
09-06-2006, 23:01
I thought so.

Naming a Centauri ship after Adira isn't something the Centauri would really do, is it :p

However, I assume JMS has approved what Mongoose has done with the new designs.

Why wouldn't they? The ship is from the time Londo is emperor so he's going to name a ship after his lost love. I quite like the name

JMS and Mongoose aren't on best of terms but Warner Bros have approved them

Koraath
10-06-2006, 00:17
I guess the name for the Adira is also in line with the new minbari ship class Neroon

emperorpenguin
10-06-2006, 00:21
I guess the name for the Adira is also in line with the new minbari ship class Neroon

Well the Adira is named for Londo's one true love, murdered by Morden.

The Neroon is named in honour of the warrior who gave his life to end the Minbari civil war.

I'm looking forward to seeing more of these ships, the concept art looked good on most of them

Which reminds me, here is the Nemesis Advanced destroyer

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/ctanemesis.jpg

Stingray_tm
10-06-2006, 08:30
This Nemesis Destroyer looks A LOT like the Sulaco in Aliens...

http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/SULACO%20PAGE.htm

BTW: What is this ACTA? The same like the usual B5 game, only 20 years later, or what?

athamas
10-06-2006, 23:25
a call to arms..


it recently got a few updates..

emperorpenguin
10-06-2006, 23:40
BTW: What is this ACTA? The same like the usual B5 game, only 20 years later, or what?

ACTA is A Call To Arms, the name of the Babylon 5 space combat game.
The Armageddon supplement advances the timeline showing us the ships the various races built in response to the ISA's Victory class and the departure of the Vorlons and Shadows

athamas
10-06-2006, 23:45
never played the game but i know Koraath and am thinking of maybe someday getting the shadow fleet :D...

emperorpenguin
11-06-2006, 00:29
never played the game but i know Koraath and am thinking of maybe someday getting the shadow fleet :D...

the shadows get some love from the armageddon book

Morathi's Darkest Sin
12-06-2006, 08:36
I've reccently brought into this one as well.. excellent game, Narn and Centauri often do their upmost to kill one another on our Kitchen table.

Those are looking nice though, I'm sure my wife will want an Adira if it's a worthy ship... when is this Armageddon out?

emperorpenguin
12-06-2006, 10:54
I've reccently brought into this one as well.. excellent game, Narn and Centauri often do their upmost to kill one another on our Kitchen table.

Those are looking nice though, I'm sure my wife will want an Adira if it's a worthy ship... when is this Armageddon out?

It is due for release in August.

The Adira is very worthy! ;) There's something for your Narn too fear not!

Koraath
12-06-2006, 14:22
Is there a reason they pushed the armageddon stuff back to august and also are the new earth fleets quite different and distinct?

emperorpenguin
12-06-2006, 14:58
Is there a reason they pushed the armageddon stuff back to august and also are the new earth fleets quite different and distinct?

There is but as nothing has been publicly announced by MP, it's not my place to say, nothing serious anyway.

Yup there's a distinct feel to the different EA fleets

Wing Commander
01-07-2006, 19:56
In Armageddon, the Earthforce receive 3 ship lists;
Earth - Minbari war era
B5 Era
Crusade Era
- Now you can tailor your force to whichever era you're playing in.
The new Armageddon vessels are essentially level 6, at the moment nobody is sure what the points splits will be (e.g. is Armageddon = 2 x war?).

emperorpenguin
01-07-2006, 21:52
In Armageddon, the Earthforce receive 3 ship lists;
Earth - Minbari war era
B5 Era
Crusade Era
- Now you can tailor your force to whichever era you're playing in.
The new Armageddon vessels are essentially level 6, at the moment nobody is sure what the points splits will be (e.g. is Armageddon = 2 x war?).

actually the first list is Dilgar war to Earth-Minbari war era

Xisor
01-07-2006, 22:09
Bah! A Vree Battleship, looks like I'm going to have to reinforce my plans to start this game...

Not least because if I don't like the game I can paint 'em gold and call 'em Daleks!

emperorpenguin
06-07-2006, 23:22
White Star Carrier

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/ctawhitestarcarrier.jpg

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/ctawhitestarcarrierbattle.jpg

Brakiri/Abbai Brivoki

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/ctabrivokibattle.jpg

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/ctabrivoki.jpg

Shipmonkey
09-07-2006, 23:07
One look at the Brivoki makes me think my ACTA budget will directed back at 40k instead. Mongoose just seems to be shafting the ACTA line left and right. Is it to much to ask to have them put a little thought into their minis? Crap like this is what killed my interest in B5Ws.

emperorpenguin
23-07-2006, 00:18
These are now up on the Mongoose site

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/ctaadira.jpg
Centauri Adira Royal Battleship

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/ctaliati.jpg
Centauri Liati Advanced Cruiser

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/ctamarathon.jpg
Earth Alliance Marathon Advanced Cruiser

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/ctawsgunship.jpg
White Star Gunship

emperorpenguin
23-07-2006, 00:19
more....


http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/ctaztakk.jpg
Vree Z'Takk Command Saucer

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/ctaneroon.jpg
Minbari Neroon Heavy Assault Ship

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/ctakabintak.jpg
Narn Ka'Bin'Tak Super Dreadnought

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/ctagvrahn.jpg
Narn G'Vrahn Fast Cruiser

emperorpenguin
23-07-2006, 00:19
finally....

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/ctafireraptor.jpg
Drazi Fireraptor Battleship

Shipmonkey
23-07-2006, 05:11
Are the Cylons aware they're missing a Base Star?

Oddly, from this angle, the G'Vrahn appears to be built around a pair of heavy bolters.

emperorpenguin
23-07-2006, 11:59
Are the Cylons aware they're missing a Base Star?

Oddly, from this angle, the G'Vrahn appears to be built around a pair of heavy bolters.

LOL that's been mentioned plenty of times already, there's only so much you can do with saucer designs!
I like it and when you consider AOG's Morgrath looked just like a Ferengi marauder!

Yodhrin
23-07-2006, 17:29
Out of interest, is there a lot of background in the ACTA books? The last time I watched B5 was the Gropos episode on VHS, which gives you an idea of how much Ive missed :p and there's no way I can afford all the DVDs to catch up, but at the same time, I hate playing games without knowing exactly what's going on on the fictional side of things.

emperorpenguin
23-07-2006, 17:37
Out of interest, is there a lot of background in the ACTA books? The last time I watched B5 was the Gropos episode on VHS, which gives you an idea of how much Ive missed :p and there's no way I can afford all the DVDs to catch up, but at the same time, I hate playing games without knowing exactly what's going on on the fictional side of things.

There's quite a fair amount, you tend to get a decent amount of background for each fleet

Brother Othorio
24-07-2006, 13:56
wow.. that Brivoki really is mind blowingly aweful..

LOVE the Adira tho (and the Marathon and Neroon are rather nice)

*off-topic*
why dont JMS and Mongoose get along? i'd assumed they did since he wrote the forward to the RPG, but i suppose that was a fair while back..

emperorpenguin
24-07-2006, 17:20
wow.. that Brivoki really is mind blowingly aweful..

LOVE the Adira tho (and the Marathon and Neroon are rather nice)

*off-topic*
why dont JMS and Mongoose get along? i'd assumed they did since he wrote the forward to the RPG, but i suppose that was a fair while back..

The Adira is a lovely ship, pity about the phallic Liati though especially as my B5 claim to fame is that I got to name the class! :D

There was a falling out between JMS and Mongoose over novels, I don't claim to know the details though, sorry

Major Thom
25-07-2006, 12:58
Is anyone other than myself dissapointed in the new Narn ship designs. The G'Vrahn is especially bad.

emperorpenguin
25-07-2006, 13:06
Is anyone other than myself dissapointed in the new Narn ship designs. The G'Vrahn is especially bad.

Well there has obviously been more reaction at Mongoose forums but the general consensus seems to be that most people LIKE the Narn and Centauri designs

The Neroon has attracted a favourable response too

the main criticism is directed at the White Stars and League ships

Major Thom
25-07-2006, 14:21
I guess it's the add on qualities of the fins and square jags on the super Bin'Tak that I don't like and the G'Vrahn just wholely puts me off. I want to like these ships since I already have a Narn fleet.

emperorpenguin
25-07-2006, 14:38
I guess it's the add on qualities of the fins and square jags on the super Bin'Tak that I don't like and the G'Vrahn just wholely puts me off. I want to like these ships since I already have a Narn fleet.

well even if you dislike the models you'll LOVE the rules, those two are beasts, sickening beasts!

Evilmerlin
25-07-2006, 15:20
Ugly as sin is how I'll describe most of the new stuff...

The EAS ships are pretty alright but the rest...dear god...

CyberShadow
27-07-2006, 10:31
There was a falling out between JMS and Mongoose over novels, I don't claim to know the details though, sorry

I dont pretend to know the intricate details, but the impression that I got was that Mongoose licensed the B5 universe stuff from Warner, and then took it in directions that JMS didnt want or authorise.

There is a fairly venomous post on JMS's forum... I will see if I can find the link.

Karhedron
27-07-2006, 20:01
Ugly as sin is how I'll describe most of the new stuff...

The EAS ships are pretty alright but the rest...dear god...
Funny, I wasn't that impressed with the EA ships either. The Marathon is OK but the Nemesis looks far too much like the Warlock with a couple of spikes. Considering the massive size of some of the other Armageddon level ships they could at least have made the Nemesis significantly bigger than the Warlock.

Commissar von Toussaint
27-07-2006, 22:29
I can't wait to scrape the cash together to go into the game, but I'm not really inspired by this new stuff.

I guess I'm a conservative to the hilt: I like Original Star Trek, Original Star Wars and the Original Babylon 5.

After the Shadows and Vorlons leave it's like the end of the Third Age in Middle Earth: a lot less interesting.

I guess I'll stay in the "historical" scenarios.

erion
28-07-2006, 01:11
The buy-in is the only thing keeping me away. $50 for rules, and then two fleet boxes to show the game to other guys at $100 each is daunting.

emperorpenguin
28-07-2006, 09:24
The buy-in is the only thing keeping me away. $50 for rules, and then two fleet boxes to show the game to other guys at $100 each is daunting.

You realise you gets tons of counters to play the game right?

I played and competed in a tournament for about a year before buying my first fleet.

nanite
28-07-2006, 23:11
I've read the quality of the ACtA books isn't really great either. And since I'm drowing in old AoG ships, counters don't interest me much.

Oh and there's no Pak'Ma'Ra.

emperorpenguin
28-07-2006, 23:46
I've read the quality of the ACtA books isn't really great either. And since I'm drowing in old AoG ships, counters don't interest me much.

Oh and there's no Pak'Ma'Ra.

are you the same Nanite from mongoose forums?

What do you mean the quality? there's been a lot of typos but since the 5 good men started fine combing the text that's (fingers crossed) a thing of the past

If you have AOG ships then just use them!

The Pak'Ma'Ra weren't really done well by AOG, they're supposed to have no military to speak of

nanite
29-07-2006, 03:21
are you the same Nanite from mongoose forums?

In the flesh. Ish.:)


What do you mean the quality? there's been a lot of typos but since the 5 good men started fine combing the text that's (fingers crossed) a thing of the past
Let's hope so. I was looking into ACtA again around the time of Sky full of Stars, but the complaints about typos and the grousing about poor image quality in the books turned me off. Plus from skimming the Mongoose boars, looks like there's still some balance issues to be worked out.


If you have AOG ships then just use them!

Of course. My point was that I was agreeing with Erion about the buy-in being too high. Since I already have money in the ships, the counters are not much of an insentive. Even the PDF seems a bit pricy.


The Pak'Ma'Ra weren't really done well by AOG, they're supposed to have no military to speak of

I disagree there, but different strokes.

erion
29-07-2006, 10:21
You realise you gets tons of counters to play the game right?

I played and competed in a tournament for about a year before buying my first fleet.

Yes, but where I play, once simply doesn't play a miniature's game with counters. It's uncivilized.

Commissar von Toussaint
30-07-2006, 15:06
The buy-in is the only thing keeping me away. $50 for rules, and then two fleet boxes to show the game to other guys at $100 each is daunting.

There's always ebay.

And (someone can correct me on this) once you've bought a fleet box, you're pretty much set.

That's what I've heard and to me that's a selling point, not a bug.

Koraath
31-07-2006, 10:49
I got all my ACTA ships from dancing dryad they are about 20% cheaper than direct from mongoose plus they also have GW stuff

emperorpenguin
01-08-2006, 16:37
And (someone can correct me on this) once you've bought a fleet box, you're pretty much set..

depends on the fleet box but you're right.

some fleet boxes are far better value than others.

my centauri fleet box got me 2 Primus battlecruisers, 2 Centurion cruisers, 6 Vorchans and 8 fighter flights, plenty for a decent fleet.

other boxes have more than just 3 hulls, while the ISA though only packing 2 hulls (whitestar and victory) give you an enormous amount (10 and 2 respectively plus nial and starfury fighters) for your money!