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Smooth Boy
05-02-2014, 23:27
Why does GW not refer to the Dwarfs as the 'Tolkien' Dwarves? This is usually used for fantasy.

Karak Norn Clansman
05-02-2014, 23:42
Because Dwarfs is the original English form, if memory serves. Tolkien, a linguist, was later in life a bit embarrased for having invented a new form for Dwarfs, namely Dwarves. Dwarrows could otherwise be used.

It is also a tiny way to distinguish GW's stunties from Lotr's and others' Dwarves.

Dorack
06-02-2014, 00:18
We folk at Bugman's started spelling it "Dwarphs" ;)

zoggin-eck
06-02-2014, 00:27
Same thing every new Dwarf release :P Thank the Gods they've stuck with Dwarfs (and always have for Warhammer) but it is annoying to read it as both in every single thread. There's the similar argument for Elfs/Elfish, but thankfully we all got Elves. I found this interesting:

"It may be observed that in this book as in The Hobbit the form dwarves is used, although the dictionaries tell us that the plural of dwarf is dwarfs. It should be dwarrows (or dwerrows), if singular and plural had each gone its own way down the years, as have man and men, or goose and geese. But we no longer speak of a dwarf as often as we do of a man, or even of a goose, and memories have not been fresh enough among Men to keep hold of a special plural for a race now abandoned to folk-tales, where at least a shadow of truth is preserved, or at last to nonsense-stories in which they have become mere figures of fun. But in the Third Age something of their old character and power is still glimpsed, if already a little dimmed: these are the descendants of the Naugrim of the Elder Days, in whose hearts still burns the ancient fire of Aule the Smith, and the embers smoulder of their long grudge against the Elves; in in whose hands still lives the skill in works of stone that none have surpassed.

It is to mark this that I have ventured to use the form dwarves, and so remove them a little, perhaps, from the sillier tales of these latter days. Dwarrows would have been better; but I have used that form only in the name Dwarrowdelf, to represent the name of Moria in the Common Speech: Phurunargian_ For that meant 'Dwarf-delving', and yet was already a word of antique form. But Moria is an Elvish name, and given without love..."

I know there is more written in the copy of lotr I own (certainly more explanation on "Elves/Elfs", with confused editors changing it), so I might take a look. Besides, I thought the correct in-world term was "Stunties" anyway?

Karak Norn Clansman
06-02-2014, 00:37
I know there is more written in the copy of lotr I own (certainly more explanation on "Elves/Elfs", with confused editors changing it), so I might take a look. Besides, I thought the correct in-world term was "Stunties" anyway?

Should be "beardballs", considering their physique (especially 4th-5th edition Dwarfs).

Abaraxas
06-02-2014, 10:07
Dorfs :chrome:

SpanielBear
06-02-2014, 13:14
"Tree-hating fire-starting axe-wielding ********". Alternatively, "compost".

Love, the Wood Elves.

T10
06-02-2014, 13:14
Why does GW not refer to the Dwarfs as the 'Tolkien' Dwarves? This is usually used for fantasy.

Why do GW have Dwarfs with guns? This is unusal for fantasy.

-T10

Smooth Boy
06-02-2014, 13:27
True but for some reason this doesn't bother me as much. Fantasy kind of has caricatures of different periods and nations. As long as each factions sticks to its period/theme I wont have a hernia. Personally I wish they'd just called them Dwarves in this rerelease. Dwarfs just make me think of snow white or people who actually suffer from dwarfism.

Silver Wolf
06-02-2014, 17:11
Personally I wish they'd just called them Dwarves in this rerelease. Dwarfs just make me think of snow white or people who actually suffer from dwarfism.

My thoughts exactly. :yes: