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tu33y
18-02-2014, 09:06
Hobbycraft near me (midlands-UK) are getting out of GW in a massive way- reductions, no new stock, much reduced shelf space. even 18 months ago they carried a FULL range of 40k, WFB and LotR, books, paints, brushes, sprays the LOT.

has anyone noticed this in THEIR local Hobbycraft? or is it just a local thing?

Herzlos
18-02-2014, 09:48
It wouldn't surprise me. Was there any price reductions?

ashc
18-02-2014, 10:04
Colour me interested :)

Kingly
18-02-2014, 10:19
THe one near me (Aylesbury & Amersham) Cleared out their stock at 20% off old prices, was very nice. BUT I should point out they never ever, in a three year period of stocking GW toys, had anything near resembling an eighth of the available products available.
A lot of generic troop units and the old starter paint sets, that was it.

IJW
18-02-2014, 10:27
My local one is new and never carried any GW stock.

Tagis
18-02-2014, 10:29
They went on sale on the Hobbycraft website at the start of the year. Don't seem to have any stock left now. My local hobbycraft started a sale at the same time. Very little left now and other model kits have started appearing on the shelving where GW's stuff used to be.

tu33y
18-02-2014, 10:40
well, added with the email i got with 20% off everything, and the fact cadian HQs are down to £12, its worth stopping by your local Hobbycraft.

quoting HTHC14 will get you 20% off at the till till the 23rd. no vouchers or any other BS.

Bigglesworth
18-02-2014, 10:57
Their online store has the same discount for everything atm, still some GW stuff left as far as I can tell

tu33y
18-02-2014, 11:05
just thought id share the love- i hadnt seen the online code, just what was emailed me

shelfunit.
18-02-2014, 11:08
Heard that at least one Hobbycraft was getting rid of GW stock a month or so ago, sounds like they are ditching wargames in general.

Patriarch
18-02-2014, 12:42
Our local hobbycraft ditched everything, including the paints, about a year ago.

drakken
18-02-2014, 12:55
Our local hobbycraft ditched everything, including the paints, about a year ago.

So did the Sheffield store

ashc
18-02-2014, 13:36
Just been to the meadowhall one and there isn't much to look at.

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DCLXVI
18-02-2014, 14:11
I popped into the Shirley, Solihull store a few weeks back to get some GW paints. There was *nothing* GW on the shelves!

Evil_D185
18-02-2014, 14:38
Nothing new really
Bristol allready got rid of all GW, plastic sheeting, balsa wood and a hugh amount of their model airlplains and tnakks, paints and and......
last year around September

Chivs
18-02-2014, 16:45
Tu33y: could you please say which store it was and did they have much in stock? I'll be making a trip through the midlands this week; might be worth sticking my head in for a good deal.

Thanks

Chivs

yabbadabba
18-02-2014, 17:22
Hobbycraft have had a big re-arrange recently with far more focus on things that reflect UK tv - cooking, sowing etc, and more traditional arts and crafts.

I got some good bits for my FoW US Paras about 2 years ago.

ashc
18-02-2014, 18:03
It definitely doesn't feel like a shop for modellers now.

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tu33y
19-02-2014, 09:09
its gone very "mumsy" and chintz... lots of things for Mummy to make with Jocasta and Mungo during Summer Vac.

it was nottingham

RunepriestRidcully
19-02-2014, 09:45
its gone very "mumsy" and chintz... lots of things for Mummy to make with Jocasta and Mungo during Summer Vac.

it was nottingham
Yeah :/ It used to be good for the sheer variety of stuff they had, but now it does just seem to be aimed at little old ladies who want to do stuff with their granddaughters aged 4-13.

ashc
19-02-2014, 12:56
And with the closure of Modelzone the future of the smale-scale modeller seems bleak in the uk.. :(

TheFang
19-02-2014, 15:34
And with the closure of Modelzone the future of the smale-scale modeller seems bleak in the uk.. :(
Pretty much mail order only or a few stores that seem to hang on because the radio controlled model hobby needs face to face tuition. My nearest (not local anymore) model shops hang on because they commission build and help with r/c boats, cars and planes.

RunepriestRidcully
19-02-2014, 15:58
Does make you wonder about the damage GW did to the British modelling scene overall.

TheFang
19-02-2014, 16:25
Does make you wonder about the damage GW did to the British modelling scene overall.
Internet. Record shops, book shops, model shops. Killed 'em all.

Unless you need to try it on or it's a service like hairdressing the high street specialist shop is on the way out unless it's very well run or well placed.

Visit the local book shop to browse but buy the book on the internet for less and then wonder why the shop closed.

yabbadabba
19-02-2014, 16:38
Does make you wonder about the damage GW did to the British modelling scene overall. Very little compared to the damage it did to itself, latterly compunded by the change in shopping patterns.

ashc
19-02-2014, 16:46
I must say, having had a birthday yesterday and wanting to go and spend my money I miss being able to actually browse physical products. I completely agree however with what people say about internet prices.

Spider-pope
19-02-2014, 17:07
My nearest Hobbycraft ditched the Wargaming stuff a couple of years ago. But they still had a few useful bits and bobs, like clockwork cogs and decorations for stuff like doll houses that could be adapted. I went in last week and unless you want to knit or bake a cake, there is absolutely no point visiting them anymore.

Poseidal
20-02-2014, 10:01
My nearest Hobbycraft ditched the Wargaming stuff a couple of years ago. But they still had a few useful bits and bobs, like clockwork cogs and decorations for stuff like doll houses that could be adapted. I went in last week and unless you want to knit or bake a cake, there is absolutely no point visiting them anymore.

It's getting hard to even get poly cement*. Soon modelling sundries will be web only, which is rather irritating.

*Less variety; can't get the types and applicators I like.

Shadey
20-02-2014, 10:18
Internet. Record shops, book shops, model shops. Killed 'em all.

Unless you need to try it on or it's a service like hairdressing the high street specialist shop is on the way out unless it's very well run or well placed.

Visit the local book shop to browse but buy the book on the internet for less and then wonder why the shop closed.

That same internet also allowed far more speciality shops to thrive because instead of having to rely on a customer base that lives within an hour or two of the physical location, your customers can easily and routinely be on the other side of the planet.

williamsond
20-02-2014, 10:49
I think model zone has been brought into WH smiths brand, I was in a big store a few weeks back in either newcastle or the metrocentre and they had a new Modelzone section and were handing out flyers, not quite the range of teh old store but a fir bit of stock by all accounts.

IJW
20-02-2014, 10:51
They bought the brand name but I think that's about all there is in common.

Spider-pope
20-02-2014, 13:03
I think model zone has been brought into WH smiths brand, I was in a big store a few weeks back in either newcastle or the metrocentre and they had a new Modelzone section and were handing out flyers, not quite the range of teh old store but a fir bit of stock by all accounts.

It's just the brand name. Only a few of their stores are going to stock anything, and this being WH Smiths you can expect what they do stock to be overpriced and extremely limited in range.

TheFang
20-02-2014, 13:57
That same internet also allowed far more speciality shops to thrive because instead of having to rely on a customer base that lives within an hour or two of the physical location, your customers can easily and routinely be on the other side of the planet.
Yes. But it's turned one or two model shops in every town into one (if you're lucky) in every county.

shelfunit.
20-02-2014, 14:33
Yes. But it's turned one or two model shops in every town into one (if you're lucky) in every county.

In the US or UK?

Harwammer
20-02-2014, 17:02
My nearest Hobbycraft ditched the Wargaming stuff a couple of years ago. But they still had a few useful bits and bobs, like clockwork cogs and decorations for stuff like doll houses that could be adapted. I went in last week and unless you want to knit or bake a cake, there is absolutely no point visiting them anymore.

I want to knit a cake!

TheFang
20-02-2014, 17:06
In the US or UK?
UK. One decently stocked military modelling style shop in every county. Probably another railway and another RC but not far away from the reality over much of the country.

shelfunit.
20-02-2014, 17:23
UK. One decently stocked military modelling style shop in every county. Probably another railway and another RC but not far away from the reality over much of the country.

Would you consider something like a well stocked Toy Master to count?

TheFang
20-02-2014, 17:29
Would you consider something like a well stocked Toy Master to count?
There's one Toymaster (in Burton, which is also blessed with Spirit Games one of the last "real" games shops left) I've seen that's pretty good. Others not so.

In a related note the 20% off coupon HTHC14 expires midnight Sunday as I've just received an email from hobbycraft. If you want to crochet a scrapbook now's your chance.

ashc
20-02-2014, 17:33
You are lucky if you have a toy master these days.

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shelfunit.
20-02-2014, 17:45
You are lucky if you have a toy master these days.

Norwich is a good place to be a wargamer - we have a great one, along with several decent game shops. Sadly I don't get back there as often as I would like

ashc
20-02-2014, 18:25
I'm from great Yarmouth and know Norwich well, I live in Doncaster now and things look worse and worse around here!

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shelfunit.
20-02-2014, 19:17
I'm from great Yarmouth and know Norwich well, I live in Doncaster now and things look worse and worse around here!

Out of the frying pan... :D

A quick google search shows Williamsons model land, TAG's model shop, and Modelshop direct all in Doncaster - are these not so good/closed down?

ashc
20-02-2014, 20:09
Williamson is exclusively RCs and Tag is going that way, mostly train stuff after that. Modelshop direct i have never heard of, appear to trade from a dodgy PO box and once again are RCs.

Thanks for looking though! Zoneout opposite tag have bits and pieces, but mainly stock CCGs now.

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Harwammer
20-02-2014, 21:00
You are lucky if you have a toy master these days.
So many of such shops are going this way in these times.

All that remains of the wondrous Dominoes Toys in Leicester is their café.

RIP Dominoes. RIP Toy and Model Shops!

A previous poster suggests GW killed these business. I don't think they did, if anything it is a credit to GW that they are able to hang on to their High Street presence, despite the fall of so many other previously successful businesses. Perhaps GW's embrace of the digital world (something many commentators believe GW hasn't done) is what has allowed them to survive (if not thrive)?

ashc
20-02-2014, 21:19
Massive cost cutting and seeing them as loss-leaders seems to be the reason for gw store survival.

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soul destroyer
21-02-2014, 07:53
My local hobbycraft in gloucester stopped selling GW about a year or more ago and the one in swindon had a sale on the other week (and maybe still have) I picked up a couple of leman russ an IG battle force and a tau hammerhead all for a decent discount. if anything they seemed to have expanded their range, maybe their taking the other stores stock?

ashc
21-02-2014, 08:31
Must be, because all the Sheffield one has is space marines and orks really.

RevEv
21-02-2014, 09:05
To be honest Hobbycraft never had a clue what to do with what they had, and what it had was only ever introductory stuff - no matter what hobby one was looking at.

If you want something more specific you either have to find a specialist or go online.

Poseidal
21-02-2014, 09:37
Some of the lesser visited Hobbycrafts might have some GW stuff with older prices. Picked up a Stormraven, the Citadel Battlemat there before, and a friend got the Aegis line for 2/3 of the current GW RRP (which was the old price from GW).

williamsond
21-02-2014, 10:39
In york we are quite lucky we have a traveling man, 2 dedicated model shops a boyes which carries modeling stuff and also a GW if you're that way inclined, It's a really good city to be a gamer in (theres some good clubs too)

williamsond
21-02-2014, 10:40
In york we are quite lucky we have a traveling man, 2 dedicated model shops a boyes which carries modeling stuff and also a GW if you're that way inclined, It's a really good city to be a gamer in (theres some good clubs too)

ashc
21-02-2014, 10:50
So good he had to say it twice! ;)

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Kiarr
21-02-2014, 12:19
Reading HC ditched GW stuff last year when they got refurbished (the year before FOW stuff dissapeared) at about the same time hobbycraft dissapeared from the retailer listing in white dwarf which indicated to me that they had killed their deal with GW (in fact I think it was just after the price rises the year before that things started to stop getting restocked and no kits, which was interesting at the time because the price increases didnt happen in hobbycraft and I picked up a couple of good deals!)

However last month a basic range of GW new paints did start being stocked!

DarkLordBelial
22-02-2014, 12:10
My local hobbycraft (Bicester) stopped selling GW about 2 years ago

Herzlos
24-02-2014, 07:13
I went into the Glasgow one today, hoping for some clearance deals on FoW, but they had none. They still had some GW at a discount from the old prices but they probably only had about 10 boxes left on the shelf so I guess they are getting rid completely too.

Art Is Resistance
25-02-2014, 21:45
I complained to Hobbycraft about 2 years ago when they dropped Flames of War (my local branch had a good range in that I and a few others bought from a lot) and again when they remodelled and dropped Gw down to a 2ft x4ft shelf unit. Their answer was that they were 'repositioning themselves in the market place' and that 'wargames did not fit their demographic'. When I queried why they were keeping Airfix then, they replied with 'they fit with our childrens ranges'.
given that I'd drop 100-150 a month on FOW in there, I thought it was incredibly short sighted - I'm sure I wasnt the only one.

And their range of brushes is appalling now - very little in the way of good stock, no W&N series 7, nothing.

Guess our ££££ don't count. I'm lucky, I have Titan Games, Portal, Spirit Games all within a short drive of my home, and Worcester Wargames near my office. Others aren't so lucky.

shelfunit.
26-02-2014, 06:42
When I queried why they were keeping Airfix then, they replied with 'they fit with our childrens ranges'.

If that really is their reasoning for dropping GW stuff it seems very odd, especially considering Airfix kits are considerably more complicated to fit together, and also targeted at an older age group than most GW kits.


Guess our ££££ don't count.

Much like specialist games for GW, stocking GW products just don't give enough profit for the space they take up for HC.

AndrewGPaul
26-02-2014, 08:30
Model kits is, I think, a slightly different hobby than wargaming. Also, they're easier to stock - just order as many as you want of what you want. No issues with having too many Space Marine Bike Squads and no Tactical Squads, no mucking about with books and the like.
They're probably also an easier sell to parents, based on their own nostalgia, although that isn't perhaps such an issue nowadays, with more and more parents having been GW players in their youth. :)

yabbadabba
26-02-2014, 17:37
The Hobbycraft/GW set up made restocking as simple as anything. I just think that HC is moving on from hobbies and more into crafts.

Harwammer
26-02-2014, 20:04
I hear they are rebranding to Crafthobby.

jtrowell
27-02-2014, 10:07
The same way that GamesWorkshop is now MiniaturesWorshop, or rather BuyOurStuffWorkshop(tm) ?

Inquisitor Engel
27-02-2014, 15:00
The same way that GamesWorkshop is now MiniaturesWorshop, or rather BuyOurStuffWorkshop(tm) ?

GW has been a miniatures company first since at least the early '90s. The games are simply a reason to get people to buy the models.

yabbadabba
27-02-2014, 16:27
BuyOurStuffWorkshop(tm) ? What, as opposed to "wegiveourstuffawayandarenowbustworkshop?

Company makes money, outrage on the 10 o'clock news tonight.

jtrowell
28-02-2014, 09:48
I was joking by referencing a GW lawyer saying that their customer's favority hobby was "buying their product". (It was during the Chapterhouse trial.)

Nor gaming. Not painting. Not even modelling. Just "buying".

tu33y
28-02-2014, 11:08
the extra 20% actually made it viable to start a new army... i got a new tactical squad, marine command squad and a drop pod for about £50

leopard
03-03-2014, 21:29
Daft thing is, GW with the stores could probably actually make decent money selling stuff from other people - only in the larger stores, keep the gaming as GW stuff only and be careful what they allow in - but they don't sell a WW2 game so say 1:72 scale airfix type kits are not competition, ditto some of the terrain stuff that doesn't duplicate what they have now.

theshoveller
03-03-2014, 21:58
If that really is their reasoning for dropping GW stuff it seems very odd, especially considering Airfix kits are considerably more complicated to fit together, and also targeted at an older age group than most GW kits.
Airfix (and their rivals) are actually very good at catering to a range of ages and skill levels, going from snap-together kits for the under-10s to the sort of thing you spend six months staring at and praying the cat doesn't jump on while you're working on it.

azza88
05-03-2014, 10:40
I was joking by referencing a GW lawyer saying that their customer's favority hobby was "buying their product". (It was during the Chapterhouse trial.)

Nor gaming. Not painting. Not even modelling. Just "buying".


That is incorrect. You are referring to what the GW layer said in opening statements and she was actually talking about games day and how people go to games day to "queue up to purchase models and meet other games" which is an important part of the hobby" she did not say buying was anyone's favorite part of the hobby


the extra 20% actually made it viable to start a new army... i got a new tactical squad, marine command squad and a drop pod for about £50

shop online like the rest of us or go to your local games store and enjoy 20-30% off every day, my local store does 25% off every GW order an most recently did 30% off imperial knight pre orders