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cerealkiller195
12-06-2006, 02:18
Some of you may remember a couple months back of a thread where i was testing the ideas i had on using a genestealer cult (without having to resort to a net dex). Here is my attempt at a blog to keep me going all the way through the Medusa V campaign.

List Used: Lost and Damned (EOT)
Points Desired: 2.5-3k pts
Goal: To have a unique army to bring about with well through the campaign

Though i realize that the idea isn't all that original i'm hoping that i can keep all you interested in the blog and cheer me on through my trials and tribulations. Also i must point out that some things will not be exact translations for example since i'm using the LATD not everything could be fully represented or even properly represented so bear with me.

Pictures of what is done so far coming up in a few hours.

Arsenal
12-06-2006, 02:20
Good luck dude, looking forward to it.

cerealkiller195
15-06-2006, 04:31
here is the first squad, not quite finished because in my folly i left my paints at a friends house thinking they would actually use them... Also their heavy weapon..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0758.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0760.jpg

cerealkiller195
15-06-2006, 04:34
Small squad w/ shotguns and a flamer

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0761.jpg

cerealkiller195
15-06-2006, 04:39
Squad w/ heavy stubber and a soon to be heavy bolter on a scenic base

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0763.jpg

cerealkiller195
15-06-2006, 04:42
What is currently my Magus (aspiring champ) very WIP

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0765.jpg

cerealkiller195
15-06-2006, 04:43
Eight Regulars awaiting a heavy weapon team for support.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0768.jpg

Easy E
15-06-2006, 04:57
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET! I just hope you have enough necromunda models to get you by.

Does the Heavy Stubber squad have a mix of rifles and pistol/cc weapon?

I am looking forward to the Hybrid models. I assume you will be using the Mutant rules for the Hybrids.

cerealkiller195
15-06-2006, 05:15
lol i have a couple more necromunda models which make up the bulk of my initiates/brood brothers. Not like i would deploy them all at once during a standard game. BUT always good to have regardless! I do have a couple more of the plastic guys that are getting heavy/special weapons to make them fodder for the cult.

The guy in the heavy stubber squad w/ pistol ccw, is going to be added onto the heavy bolters scenic base. So i dont have to mix weapons, i will add a suitable "loader backpack".

Yes sir hybrids will rep the "mutants" of the list, but for the life of me i can't find good models to make hybrids out of. I think I'm going to lean towards old genestealer models (2 pose plastics) mixed w/ cadians and ccw arms. Planning to gs the torso to make a mini robe to cover the cadian flak jacket. I'm currently doing a test to see how it would look... so be on the look out for that.

Also coming soon will be ghetto chimeras out of old school rhinos and a leman russ coming out of a pred kit!

Festus
15-06-2006, 09:00
Hi

Love your army.
Yes sir hybrids will rep the "mutants" of the list, but for the life of me i can't find good models to make hybrids out of. I think I'm going to lean towards old genestealer models (2 pose plastics) mixed w/ cadians and ccw arms. You could consider going plastic catachans: easier witout the body armour and closely resembling the Orlocks.

And they start out being disfigured and ugly and all, to boot!

Greetings
Festus

aka_mythos
16-06-2006, 19:05
One idea I've played around with for hybrids was using ork bodies with modified genestealer heads and arms plus appropriate non-ork weapons.

cerealkiller195
17-06-2006, 04:51
here are some hounds i've been working on. not that much into teh GS fluff but i had them laying around the house somewhat finished. They are still WIP as i paw through my colors...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0770.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0771.jpg

malika
19-06-2006, 01:01
Intruiging stuff so far! Perhaps try to add those decorations to the models similar to the old skool Genesteal cult models.

Oh yeah check your PM!

cerealkiller195
19-06-2006, 05:02
thanks everyone! currently i'm working on a hybrid using a cadian/beastmen/random bits not as ideal as i would want but i'll see how it turns out with some more green stuff work.

Also working on some random guys i found that i'm adding to fill out squads, i'll post pics of hybrid progress and mini painting progress tomorrow.


Malika i got your PM you sent me one when i posted in Dakka Dakka when i put up my "conceptual stage: genestealer cult" thread. I'm up for it when i get the time i'll dabble a bit in writing.

malika
19-06-2006, 13:00
Dakkadakka has been very annoying on my computer so Im not going on there that much :( But yeah...any idea on how you are going to make the Patriarch? I was thinking something with heavily converting a Slann model or something like that

cerealkiller195
19-06-2006, 17:59
yes it has, it just hasn't been the same community that it used to be. It seems more like a popularity contest over there than it used to be. Also having to log on EVERY time i visit the page is quite annoying.

for the patriarch still no clue what i might do. i might do more like a genestealer on crack rather than a bloated patriarch. Maybe a new strain/take on the patriarch may be in order.

armored might wise i'm still trying to figure out how to make the turret for my pred into russ conversion. As well as rhinos into chimeras...

malika
19-06-2006, 19:18
Hmm try to keep things more civilian like. Rhinos can be used since they are probably the most common vehicle in the Imperium. For the rest I would definately go for trucks etc based vehicles. Ruleswise they could be whatever you want them to be, but try not to make them too IG/SM like.

Gutta
19-06-2006, 19:34
Rhinos are surely not the most common? I thought it was the Chimera

Damien 1427
19-06-2006, 19:40
Rhinos are surely not the most common? I thought it was the Chimera

Chimeras are used excluseively by the Imperial Guard. The Rhino Chassis, however, is used by many non-millitary wings of the Imperium, and its construction is simplistic enough to be replicated on most civillised worlds. It's pretty much a box on wheels, the Chimera is purely a millitary vehicles and as far as I know they can only be built on forge worlds.

Easy E
20-06-2006, 05:06
have you thought of using Kroot as a base model for your hybrids. Their odd frame and stature seem appropriate for a half man/half-genestealer type model.

Quin 242
20-06-2006, 05:12
Yes sir hybrids will rep the "mutants" of the list, but for the life of me i can't find good models to make hybrids out of. I think I'm going to lean towards old genestealer models (2 pose plastics) mixed w/ cadians and ccw arms. Planning to gs the torso to make a mini robe to cover the cadian flak jacket. I'm currently doing a test to see how it would look... so be on the look out for that.

I have the perfect models right here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8829677409&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

I put them up for auction before I saw your post tho :( But feel free to bid.

if you add some genestealer arms on those they make spectacular Hybrids.. the heads are already similar to the hybrids.. just shave off the mohawks...
That is the reason I kept them around but never got around to it...
Since they are plastic they are easy to convert tho :)

cerealkiller195
20-06-2006, 13:07
hmm i'm getting what you guys are saying. I think with the rhinos i will rep the weapons a chimera can carry and just add on a lot of junk/gear/armor to bulk it out. For the russ i had the idea of adding like an artillery piece (sand bags and all) on top of the pred to rep a battle cannon. what do you guys think?

hmm good call on the kroot, tonight is my day off sorry for no pics yesterday between the gym and work i was done for the night. I'll try the ork and kroot suggestions and post them up.

Despoiler
20-06-2006, 22:06
for a Genestealer Patriarch you could use a converted brood lord with these arms.
http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=72596/9&orignav=9
http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=72596/8&orignav=9

good job so far, very original.

cerealkiller195
21-06-2006, 01:37
here's a quick update guys:
Heavy Weapon team

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0777.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0778.jpg

cerealkiller195
21-06-2006, 01:38
odds and ends, 2 shotgun squad guys and 2 cc weapon guys (for a new squad)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0779.jpg

cerealkiller195
21-06-2006, 01:38
WIP heavy weapon for the all plastic orlock squad.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0780.jpg

cerealkiller195
21-06-2006, 01:50
and last for now a quick WIP shot of the hybrids. One uses a cadian-ish body w/ marauder arms and a beastmen head. The other is an ork body and arms, which i'm not that impressed with though i will admit i could have put more time into it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0781.jpg

also i realized that i did not clean up the bases when i posted the pics, i fixed that just now. Currently i am working on another las gun squad followed closely by a h2h/cc squad. It's amazing what i find in my bits box all sorts of assorted minis that i am throwing into the army.

I've been running low on funding as such i dont have enough cash to buy the "real" new stealers for the army. Though i put up some stuff i had laying around on ebay and it sold so in the coming days i will have a little bit of extra pocket cash.

With Medusa V on the horizon i must start to organize the army and get a coherent list out. I still haven't tested this army out at all ( i played latd briefly when it first came out) but right now i think i will try to build 1k worth and see where it goes from there...

IG_Airborne_Ranger
21-06-2006, 02:56
Nice models so far. I myself am in the process of collecting a variety of Necrmunda and catachan models for my own Genestealer cult army. May I suggest using House Cawdor models? IMO they look very much like modern day terrorist types which is what the Cult basically is.

cerealkiller195
21-06-2006, 06:01
thanks yeah for the most part i won whole unpainted/unopened boxes of delaque gangs with a huge lot netting me most everything else. Cawdor would make good models but for now i am just evening out my squads (i have a projected 7 troop choices!) and i still have yet to find a hybrid that i am comfortable replicating over 40 times (two units of twenty-ish).

I didn't get as much work as a hoped out today but i did set up for another whole squad to be done in quick order. So look as i'm trying to update daily maybe evne a bat rep quite soon though i predict i will be massacred as i dont have the "essential" units of the army! Oh well! stay tuned!

Mikari
21-06-2006, 08:22
Orks really don't fit genestealer hybrids, they look too chunky where as hybrids were always very thin.

Remember hybrids melted into society and looked normal not like Orks.

aka_mythos
21-06-2006, 15:35
Well it all depends on what generation your hybrids are. I considered orks cause they are more haunched and and muscular. There was an old drawing in an old White Dwarf that showed each generation. Your first guy is good at representing a first or second generation hybrid while the second guy might be more suited towards third or fourth. One thing I planned was for my "mutants" to be represented by 3rd and 4th gen Hybrids... while the 1st and 2nd gen, which can usually get away with passing as humans, represent "traitors." I also considered having 2nd and 3rd gen represented be basic mutants... 4th be mutants with the improved strength. When I started work on my Hybrid... I used and ork torso and and legs... with a genestealer head though I redid everything above the mouth with a more human head and redid the muscles on the arms to be more tyranid.

I do think its a good first go and I hope you keep it up.

cookiescrumble
21-06-2006, 17:06
Good job so far and GL in the campaign.

Quin 242
21-06-2006, 18:10
Well it all depends on what generation your hybrids are. I considered orks cause they are more haunched and and muscular. There was an old drawing in an old White Dwarf that showed each generation. Your first guy is good at representing a first or second generation hybrid while the second guy might be more suited towards third or fourth. One thing I planned was for my "mutants" to be represented by 3rd and 4th gen Hybrids... while the 1st and 2nd gen, which can usually get away with passing as humans, represent "traitors." I also considered having 2nd and 3rd gen represented be basic mutants... 4th be mutants with the improved strength. When I started work on my Hybrid... I used and ork torso and and legs... with a genestealer head though I redid everything above the mouth with a more human head and redid the muscles on the arms to be more tyranid.


You've got in just about right but backwards.. 1st gen were more monstrous and later generations got more human looking but retained the bald head and generally at least vestigial nose/forhead ridges. Thats Why Goliaths made good Hybrids :) They are already mostly bald and have pronounced brow ridges...
If you can locate some old school hybrid models that's a find:
http://www.solegends.com/citcat89autumn/c89aut-072557-1-03.htm
http://www.solegends.com/citcat89autumn/c89aut-072557-2-03.htm
http://members.fortunecity.com/aradiel88/053b3340.jpg

cerealkiller195
21-06-2006, 19:41
i wanted to go for that hunched sort of look but that could be hard as there are little to no models that are both robed and hunched over. That and of course trying to stay in budget with it all.

painted a hw base and 2 more guys, i want to try and get atleast another 3-4 done before i post them up. Regardless i'll post some pics tonight after work.

aka_mythos
21-06-2006, 22:58
Oops... Quin 242, your right... its just when I'm posting from work :P I can't fact check. I'll try to get a pic of my prototype up later.

EDIT: Errr... pictures not working out right... but my ork based Hybrid looks cool... it ends up looking like a slighty taller and muscular version of the old plastic space hulk hybrids. The trick to getting it to look better is to cut a notch out of the ork neck setting the Stealer head into the notch... remove the tongue from the head... green stuffing the lips to the lower jaw and continue the ork neck upto the chin with greenstuff. You then need to put a brow above the eyes of the Stealer head.

Easy E
22-06-2006, 01:58
There use to be Ork Hybrids as well. They were a type of ork Freebooter if I recall.

cerealkiller195
22-06-2006, 02:25
yeah i have all the old ork lore stored away safely in my room (orks are my first and most favored army), but that also means i wouldn't want my hybrids ork like. If you are having probs w/ the pic send the file via PM/other means and i'll host it and put it up.

i'm eating ribs and straight to painting again! expect an update in 2 hours...

aka_mythos
22-06-2006, 03:53
...my picture problems are on the digital camera end.

EDIT: HAHA I found a way around my problem who can I PM these to?

cerealkiller195
22-06-2006, 05:05
send them to me via email? PM for that info

here is my daily update, though i failed to go past what i expected (damn those ribs were good!) tommorrow is another day and i think i might have the day off so much work needs to be done.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0786.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0789.jpg

damn horrors of horros some of the green basing is showing! i have to go and fix that in the morning! Also clean up a couple of lines. Also when i was wandering through the Medusa V site to sign up it occured to me i have yet to name my army and commander! Any ideas?

Orcdom
22-06-2006, 05:50
what are you leading it with? the broodlord model might be a good idea, or even a magus.
Steve

Rokkitz
22-06-2006, 09:59
Ahh good stuff, all of it.
You actually inspired me to start fiddling about with my own slow growing cult. You might want to check out this old thread (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29216) for some inspiration.

I will be following your progress closely. Good luck with the rest! ;)

cerealkiller195
22-06-2006, 18:15
well the patriarch is leading the army when it comes to more than 1500 pts. Otherwise regulated duties fall on the magus and his buddies. I just found out that i do not work today so hopefully i get more into gear and crank out more squads!

Also I want to thank you all for the support and ideas! You have no idea how motivated I get when i see comments and criticism to make myself a better player and painter. Thank you.

Scorpio
23-06-2006, 18:32
Looking very cool man! I can't wait to see more!

-Scorpio

cerealkiller195
23-06-2006, 19:25
hey everyone sorry i didn't post yesterday like i said i was so caught up trying to get minis done that by the time i went to take pictures i was exhausted.

well here are the pics, yesterday i finished 13 minis (well some need a color or two.. which i will add later). I'm pretty happy how my little h2h squad is coming out. I am not that glad on how the "icon" in one squad came out, have to work a bit more on my gs skills.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0791.jpg
this squad is missing a lascannon team which i will model and post pics tonight.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0794.jpg
a plasma gunner from the orlock plastic squads

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0796.jpg
my hand to hand squad (still growing) sorry the pic is blurry more to come soon.

I have a couple of minis taking a windex bath that will be cleaned and based tonight. Have to see what else has to get done, defintely another lascannon base for the squad i just painted. Good news! Tomorrow is my first battle w/ this army a small 700-1000 pt game COD. So i have to get some more stuff done (i hate proxies!) for the battle.

Ray K.
23-06-2006, 19:38
Looking good. I can't wait to kill them tomorrow :skull:

Anyway... seriously.. use the Orks. They look so much more mutant-ish.

cerealkiller195
26-06-2006, 03:34
Yesterday i didn't get to play against Ray K but i did play against my friend Mike. Though i dont remember all the rules i'll try and give you a quick breakdown.

My List: roughly 1500pts
Magus (Arch Heretic) w/ PW, Demonic Strength, infiltrate, Frags, Melta Bombs, and bolt pistol

Brood Brothers (traitors) x 11 w/ lascannon, plasmagun, & icon
Brood Brothers x 10 w/ lascannon, plasmagun, & icon. Agitator w/ bolter
Brood Brothers x 10 w/ lascannon, plasmagun, & icon. Agitator w/ bolter
Brood Brothers x8 w/ heavy bolter, heavy stubber, & icon
Brood Brothers x 9 w/ shotguns & flamer, icon Agitator w/ bolt pistol & power wep
Brood Brothers x 11 w/ ccw & pistols, icon & flamer. Agitator w/ bolt pistol & pow wep

Hunting Hounds x10 (chaos hounds)

Purestrain Genestealers x 8 (bloodletters)
Purestrain Genestealers x 8

Leman Russ w/ tri bolters, smoke, and extra armor
Defiler w/ indirect fire

my strategems: infiltrate, preliminary bombardment (representing what the cult does before the battle to hamper their enemies progress), and sacred ground (my objective)

His List: Guard
Command HQ w/ mortar, Psyker w/ force sword

Platoon
Command w/ mortar
Squad 1 w/ melta
Squad 2 w/ melta

Armored Fist squad w/ melta
Chimera w/ storm bolter, heavy stubber, multi laser and heavy bolter

Ogryns x5 w/ bone head, Commisar w/ power fist & bolt pistol
Chimera w/ storm bolter, heavy stubber, multi laser and heavy bolter

Veterans x 8-10 w/ plasma gun x3 and Vet sarge w/ power fist & plasma pistol
Chimera w/ storm bolter, heavy stubber, multi laser and heavy bolter

Demoliser x2 w/ tri bolters? (didn't really get a chance to fire them)
Basilisk w/ indirect fire

strategems: medica facility, prelimnary bombardment and booby traps

more to come...

cerealkiller195
26-06-2006, 18:47
We awaited the Imperial Guard in the outskirts of the city before first light, as they made their way through we sprung our trap. Our pious Brood Brothers and Initiates rained death on the unbelievers looking to trap the guardsmen and make them targets for the Blessed Children of the Father.

The battle was over once the Blessed emerged from underneath the guardsmen and dragged them to their doom. Not one guardsmen who laid eyes on the Blessed were left alive. Even the abhumans known as ogyrns did not stand a chance against the might of the Blessed. The guard commander roused the call for retreat as tattered remains of his army made their way off the field.

Highlights:
-Popping most of his vehicles on lucky glancing shots
-Genestealers men of the match taking out 2 squads of guardsmen and ogryns w/ commisar and psyker
-Only failing 2 leadership tests the whole game!! I couldn't stop rolling 3's and 4's for leadership tests!

Damage Control: (mine)
- 23/59 Brood Brothers
- 11/16 Purestrain Stealers
- 9/10 Hounds
- Russ missing turret
- 1/2 Magus
- Defiler untouched

Damage Control: (his)
- demolisher
- basilisk
- command HQ
only things surviving the battle, when he gave up

Lessons:
-Well at first i picked a corner just because i had my minis on that side, wasn't exactly the best place as i was running out of viable places to infiltrate.
-prelimnary bombardment almost never works for me, but not sure what else to take?
- Genesteals/blood letters are AMAZING, in one round of combat 12 attacks put 8 wounds on ogryns! Even when the orgyns charged they only took one casualty!
-not sure what to take out for mutants?

malika
26-06-2006, 19:38
Have you perhaps thought of using Dark Eldar Grotesques, Haemonculi and Mandrakes combines with other bits for your Cult?

Despoiler
26-06-2006, 20:20
Armored Fist squad w/ melta
Chimera w/ storm bolter, heavy stubber, multi laser and heavy bolter

Ogryns x5 w/ bone head, Commisar w/ power fist & bolt pistol
Chimera w/ storm bolter, heavy stubber, multi laser and heavy bolter

Veterans x 8-10 w/ plasma gun x3 and Vet sarge w/ power fist & plasma pistol
Chimera w/ storm bolter, heavy stubber, multi laser and heavy bolter



prehaps next time you can tell mike that you can't take both a heavy stubber and a storm bolter on the same tank. you can take one or the other not both -it quite clearly tells you in the description of both in the wargear section of the IG codex.

but anyway sounds like you've got a good force. you lost just over half your traitors but as they're guard then its to be expected.

as for you're mutants i wouldn't worry about them just now your force is quite strong. if you want to add any then expand your army with a few units of them.

Orcdom
26-06-2006, 21:55
what are you using as a defiler? i know its not a steelar, but a fex would fit the bill here. potential CC monster and a converted big gun.

Steve

Ray K.
26-06-2006, 22:32
what are you using as a defiler?

How about one of these? :p

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3628/tankbugboxshot9fe.th.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tankbugboxshot9fe.jpg)

Orcdom
27-06-2006, 00:30
naa, dont really fit IMHO, unless he allready has it. i think a fex would fit better.

not really trying to support GW here, but i think most people will relate a but better if it was a fex as well. otherwise, is it a chaos cultist army or a genestealar cult?

thats why i think the bug would fit.

besides, per the movie all that big bug has is a flame thrower, not a large shell type round, at least you have a large ordnance (or used too, could be wrong, havent played them since beginning 3rd ed) template with a barbed strangler.

Steve

Easy E
27-06-2006, 00:37
As much as I hate to disagree with Orcdom, I feel a Carni would not be the best fit. Genestealer Cults are not really suppose to realize that they are a pawn in the larger Tyranid menace until it is too late. Instead, they are just fighting for dominancy and a secure place for their progeny.

I would recommend that the Defiler should be a large construction type vehicle modified with weapons. It would fit into the ramshackle nature of a cult, and you can make it have all the stuff it needs to be classed as a defiler. I personally would not use one, but that is one potential method. I am interested to see what you come up with.

Orcdom
27-06-2006, 00:44
that would fit as well, or even anoither russ retrofitted with a roller type of wheel in front to represent the CC part of the vehicle. hell why not another russ and leave the defiler in the garage.

Steve

cerealkiller195
27-06-2006, 02:47
ahh i will have to bring that up to mike, we are a pretty laid back group so we let things slide unless someone is being obnoxious.

about the defiler i was at first going to model it as an RT robot though coming up with the bits for it was going to drive me nuts. Instead i think i might go w/ ork killa kan arms as the "legs" and make a cradle/carriage carrying weapons. With a fanatical cultist "wired" into the machine.

I do want to continue w/ the ramshackle look of the cult so i will have to start getting into gear. I like the defiler over the basilisk even if it costs more pts, because it's not straight looking guard. Also it can fight anything that gets into my deployment if things are dire (since all the traitors are all over the place).

Sorry i haven't had any picture updates but i left my glue where our group games. So tomorrow afternoon me and Ray K are going supply shopping! i think i will also place an order for my two broods of Purestrains!

Rabid Bunny 666
27-06-2006, 13:14
I'd picture a huge Basilisk-esque gun platform with insane cuitists manning the Heavy Bolter, using either Defiler Legs or converted sentinal legs for locomotion

Orcdom
28-06-2006, 00:49
or have cultists chanied to the front wielding evicerators? the necromunda redemptionist evicerator model would be a good start.
Steve

Ray K.
28-06-2006, 01:19
Those are two awesome ideas... but isn't that getting a bit expensive? Keep in mind that Drew (CeralKiller) is trying to not bankrupt himself :p

Also, I tried hard as hell to get him to buy a Tanker Bug today when we went to go "supply shopping", lol. He wasn't having anything to do with it though.

We were BS'ing about the design of his Defiler today and came up with some funny/cool ideas, but I'll let him fill you guys in :)

kortholaxthedamned
28-06-2006, 15:58
i would advise using a magus in a Tzeentchian way, give him phsycic powers. it better represents the magus's powers.

aka_mythos
29-06-2006, 01:18
I agree with kortholaxthedamned on the power thing... though Slannesh powers might represent other powers for the patriarch... hmm

cerealkiller195
29-06-2006, 02:47
yes i was thinking it might fit better, though i was using them as aspiring champs and was going to say that the MOCU was their control over others (in their unit) or just the unit's fanatical zeal to stay in the fight.

sorry i haven't been as active but i'm getting back into the working mood. Right now i'm trying hard to come up with concepts for the defiler/russ as i imagine you guys are bored of just seeing infantry. I imagine the "defiler" was actually something of a mining/agricultural vehicle that used it's heavy flamer to scare/kill dangerous animals that threatened the workers. It would be a walker because it would help it traverse the dangerous terrain. So on a flat bed somewhere on the back is an improvised battle cannon and tl autocannon turret.

Ray K.
29-06-2006, 03:43
Post a picture of your entire army, you stupid whore.

(it looks much more impressive en mass and in person)



<3

MAD MAN-A-TRON
29-06-2006, 22:40
Hey, I know you from livejournal.

Awesome work!

Dais
30-06-2006, 05:42
for the defiler you may want to make a giant mechanical genestealer or something, like a gargant. or an abducted knight titan thats been poorly repaired.

Sleazy
30-06-2006, 16:46
can you still order the old Patriarch, Magus etc or are you wanting something different?

This thread has inspired me, I used to use a genestealer cult back in RT, I still have the Patriarch (on throne), Magus and some hybrids, I may have to re do them.

I used to like the old plastic guardsmen painted up as brood brothers like in that ancient WD article.

cerealkiller195
30-06-2006, 17:30
hey MAD whats up? lol i almost forgot that i left a link here. Jersey in this thread! lol

But moving on i'm finding it hard to find plasticard here in Jersey, and i can't do much progress as i need a "body" for the vehicle. I have looked through my bits box and actually came up with a bunch of cools things to add to the vehicle but i'm still looking for the chasis of the vehicle.

I was trying to sketch what i think the vehicle would look like, i always tend to add side notes trying to use words to help the envision the model in my mind. I even walked around a toy store looking at all the toys gaining a few ideas. I really hope i can find something soon to show you all the progress that i plan.

Infantry wise i have about 4-5 loose models before i call the brood brothers done. I have way too many as is but its always good to have the option to change your list up a bit so i'm quite happy. As i am collecting bits i'm starting to form a hybrid squad just to keep me busy (i'll post pics in a day or two).

I'm pretty sure that GW no longer offers them even in their "classics" section, if they did i would imagine it would be at an astronomical price. I'll fish around ebay for a bit they are always on there for relatively cheap. A good idea i was thinking about if i ever got my hands on one, would be to attach sentiel legs to his throne and maybe small arms/blads underneath.

I'm glad that i inspired you Sleazy, comments like that help me keep going with the project. If you want more inspiration look on Yahoo groups and there is a quite active Genestealer Cult group going there.

cerealkiller195
05-07-2006, 23:10
hey fellas i'm not dead yet! I've been tossing stuff up on ebay to pay for this little addiction. But i'm doing good now i've been putting together some hybrids i haven't done any gs work on them (doing that as we speak).

I went for the whole catachan mixed w/ random genestealer parts and ccw arms. It looks pretty decent it will look A LOT better once i start gs'ing the robes. I'm back in building/painting mode so i'm coming back with a vengeance!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0829.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0830.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0831.jpg

Ray K.
05-07-2006, 23:42
Where'd you find these? A swamp? These look like absolute ****.



Jerk. Take multi-angle pictures of the "boss" ;)

MAD MAN-A-TRON
06-07-2006, 03:33
Awesome conversion on the hybrids, I have to say, I really like the feel of this force, especaily with all the muties with stealer arms runnin' around, keep up the awesome work!

cerealkiller195
10-07-2006, 04:03
alright guys i'm back on the ball!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0832.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0833.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0834.jpg

cerealkiller195
10-07-2006, 04:13
here are the hybrids w/ their "robes" on some came out a bit clunky but for now i think they will do. I have another squad of these that i want to do, everyone in the mob has a unique pose/look which i am satisfied with. The boss needs more work done (i'm going to add another set of spiked claws so taht both sides match torep my "powerfist").

I haven't been gaming much as my friend (in which house we game in) went on a cruise. What did i do during this time? Ebay alot of my minis/misc items for some extra cash. Which i did quite well and i am ordering 2 boxes of genestealers this week hopefully get them before the weekend.

Also i registered for the Medusa campaign (sig fixture soon) and decided to name my army ::drum roll:: Disciples of the Hive Collective.. A decieving name and organization most imperial citizens think that the Disciples are emmissaries that are standing up for the masses (worker unions and such), but in reality the Hive Collective is the brood of genestealers/patriarch. I decided that a Magus would lead the army as he is the "face" and figurehead of the army and does the bidding of the patriarch that must hide in the shadows (until bigger sized games come about..).

Easy E
11-07-2006, 01:03
The robes help alot.

cerealkiller195
23-12-2006, 22:57
well i've had people asking me about teh cult for quite some time. I haven't updated in awhile because i did not have anything significant. It's time to get back on teh painting/converting wagon and finish up teh cult to start another blog. Some of the pictures look like they are reposted but i have added a member or two to almost every squad. well let me know what you think!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture002-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture003-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture004-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture005-2.jpg

cerealkiller195
23-12-2006, 22:58
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture007-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture008-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture009-2.jpg

TheCimSaint
23-12-2006, 23:33
Looking good so far. What are you working on now?

Also, any chance of an army shot?

Keep up the good work.

-Saint

UnRiggable
24-12-2006, 02:33
Post 74 Pic 1: The Klan is in town!

Sweet man, love the mix of regulars and cloaked individuals

cerealkiller195
24-12-2006, 03:08
haha thanks unriggable! yes that is the unit that waas purely from the bitz box. you know all those wacky figs you thought you would never use!

right now i'm painting up the genestealer still way more work to be done i will try and get an army pic in the next couple of days. as well as WIP minis that are on teh converting side of the table!

Easy E
24-12-2006, 07:20
Looking good. They have a nice cross-section of society feel, but the color scheme unifies them as a single force. That's not easy to do with rag-tag militia style units. Kudos.

Any progress on the defiler? I also have a problem finding Plasticard in my area, so I switched to using cardstock instead. That's readily found at all chain stores such as Target, Wal-mart, etc. If you want a choice of thickness and weights try OfficeMax/Depot.

Another way around plasticard is to use foam as a core and cardstock plates to cover the foam. It's cheap, easy, and solid construction. It's also a great way to make large sturdy models cheaply.

firestorm40k
24-12-2006, 15:21
Great work on the hybrids, this is a very cool looking army! :cool:

cerealkiller195
24-12-2006, 18:34
actually the defiler idea is still being worked out i went broke as i went to implement the idea. I shoudl post some very grammar school concept sketches i have. What the cult really needs is some armored support!! Yes i have no clue where people buy plasticard so your suggestions will be tested out.

thats the look i wanted to accomplish w/ the cult a very rag tag group w/ one scheme. it is a lot harder to paint in some ways because i want them all to look different but still part of the army. I have to scrounge my bits box for a couple more likely hyrbrids. I'm out of black primer so i'm going to have to wait a week to get paid and pick up a can.

any suggestions? requests? Army shot coming in a day or two.

cerealkiller195
03-01-2007, 22:27
i painted up the genestealers a bit more, i cut my finger the other day and had to get 3 stitches so work has been slow but i promised i would get a majority of the cult work out of the way during winter break!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture010-2.jpg

an aspiring champ, have to do more work on his gasmask but other than that i think an improvement over the regular mini

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture015-3.jpg

second aspiring champ, i like this one a HELL of a lot more

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture016-3.jpg

a bunch of no good cultists

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture017-2.jpg

cerealkiller195
03-01-2007, 22:28
and another random intiate w/ a heavy stubber as i am making due w/ all teh spare models i have to carry different weapon variations

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture018-4.jpg

Ray K.
04-01-2007, 05:18
This thread still sucks. Gimmie an army pic!

;)

scrubout
04-01-2007, 05:31
This thread still sucks. [edited by Order of Inquisition]

What a jerk. :p

Good stuff, I also would like an army pic as well. Nice job on the genestealer 'stealing' some poor cadian's head, haha.

-peace out
scrubout:skull:

cerealkiller195
04-01-2007, 07:06
haha scrub thats my friend that i game against lol. he is just giving me some friendly "motivation" lol.

Flyfish
04-01-2007, 11:44
Cool! I always liked the cult idea. I'm looking foreward to see those hybrids painted.

Boss_Salvage
04-01-2007, 14:42
Good stuff! Cool to see so much new stuff, dig the AC's especially. What's the head on the second AC? And how much does that suck, having to get stitches when you've got free modeling time??

I also demand army pics!

- Salvage

cerealkiller195
04-01-2007, 16:06
the one w/ the powerfist thats the stock model i think its a pit slave chief from necromunda

cerealkiller195
05-01-2007, 18:44
touched up the wolves slightly
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture021-3.jpg

the much requested ARMY PIC:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture019-4.jpg

scrubout
05-01-2007, 18:48
Looks even better all together! What are the green hooded genestealer like dudes doing with green bases though? They look interesting.

-peace out
scrubout:skull:

cerealkiller195
05-01-2007, 18:57
those are the hybrids before they get primed, i am still out of black primer w/ no free time on my hands to go get another can! lol

Boss_Salvage
05-01-2007, 19:01
Ahhhh looking very good all together now, nice work man. You're using LatD rules, right? I'm guessing you've got Chimeras/Rhinos/Limos around to make some of those traitors Fast Attak choices (and so viable in a standard list!) ... then again maybe you've posted pics and I missed them ...

*checks though old posts!*

Keep up the good work!

- Salvage

cerealkiller195
05-01-2007, 19:28
yes LATD rules i thought they fit as one of the best. Also very uncommon though as of late "traitor" armies are on the rise. Nope i do not have any vehicles as of yet being hardcore broke. I do have three rhinos laying in simple green that i want to turn into something. not sure just yet what though..

cerealkiller195
21-01-2007, 19:05
there is scent of a tourny happening on Feb 9th!! I'm excited more inspiration to get the cult done in time. I have to add up the pts but i need to get to 1850 pts w/ a feasible list... with that being said here is the start of the hybrids

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture066-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture063-1.jpg

and a sneak peak at the "farm vehicle" defiler!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture067-2.jpg

Boss_Salvage
22-01-2007, 15:35
Hybrids are looking good so far, nice mad collection of bitz too. I've been looking forward to your defiler for a while now, cool to see it coming together. Good luck with that tournament too - you have to get 1850 together by Feb 9th? Good luck! Nothing like a deadline to kick ass into gear ;)

- Salvage

Boss_Salvage
23-01-2007, 20:31
there is scent of a tourny happening on Feb 9th!! I'm excited more inspiration to get the cult done in time. I have to add up the pts but i need to get to 1850 pts w/ a feasible list ...
For some reason I thought you had said you needed a 1500 point list, so I took a look at that army pic you posted and pounded this out:

Aspiring Champ - MoCU, power weapon, frag = 58
Aspiring Champ - MoCU, powerfist = 62

7 Genestealers (Bloodletters) = 182

30 Mutants - Flamer, ikon, boss w/ powerfist = 211

15 Traitors - Ikon, heavy bolter, agitator w/ power weapon = 155
13 Traitors - Ikon, heavy bolter, heavy stubber, agitator = 139
12 Traitors - Ikon, lascannon, plasma gun, agitator = 141
12 Traitors - Ikon, lascannon, plasma gun, agitator = 141
12 Traitors - Lascannon, plasma gun, agitator = 136

10 Hounds = 100

Defiler - Indirect fire = 175

Total = 1500 points

The traitors are a total guess at what is in that picture, and the mutants also assume a few things. If you want to include 2 mutant squads in 1850, you can take maxed-out 15 traitor squads, for a total of 60 of 64 traitors. I'm not sure what else you have built/painted up, but I think with added kit and those other mutants you could be good to go. Especially if you make the mutants 'fast' or 'burly,' both of which eat points up fast.

- Salvage

Warwolt the skaven
31-01-2007, 21:45
This is some really n'zty-stuff! I want to see what your going to do for a machine to call a Defiler. ooooh, exiting ^^

cerealkiller195
01-02-2007, 05:11
more or less that would be the list Boss though i guess it seems like i have WAY more than is actually there! i only have about 15 mutants, and 18 cultists (alpha legion allies). I'll try and put up a rough list of everything i have and possibly come up with something through here. I still haven't called the store yet to reserve my spot but i have a friend constantly checking they want to have as many people as possible.

i have actually been gaining a few pics but didn't notice the subject went up again. I will try and post a few pictures on what i've done. I have antoher 5 hybrids done, as well as the fist wielding aspiring champ and more work on the farm vehicle defiler! The hardest part of the list trying to find a feasible list out of all i have. Also i'm redoing the stealers, i think i'm going the traditional paint scheme. I have a bunch of old ones and a box of new ones. If i get time i want to have atleast 2 squads right now i have to MAD dash to get things done. I've done things before but that was in my golden age!

I have about two weeks to get everything done i just finished my Uni Work, so i'm off to build up that defiler! Any suggestions on a list? i imagine a lot of space marines/dark angles/elder?

cerealkiller195
02-02-2007, 20:39
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture068-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture069-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture070-1.jpg

cerealkiller195
02-02-2007, 20:40
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture071-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture072-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture074-1.jpg

cerealkiller195
02-02-2007, 20:44
now to explain, the farm vehicle defiler is coming out good, i have to cut down some of the green stuff i used and add some more plates to cover the hole. I must also figure out where i want the weapons to be, as well as the ccw/drills for arms that i envision.

the bike/trike/trakk is going to be a leader on an armored pulpit for lack of better description. i have no clue how to get plasticard so i improvised. I still have A LOT of work to do on it but i thought of it this morning and went on a tangent.

One of the aspiring champs very WIP, but i think he is shaping out to be quite nice. extra points if you figure out what the back of his powerfist references...

and of course some more hybrids! Looking back at the time left i doubt i can make the tourney but i am going to aim for it anyway. Just for that extra incentive before i take on my next project! I want to take the cult out for a test spin if in a tourny! would be great but if i have to go into a gw shop and lay down i guess thats whats in order!

Boss_Salvage
02-02-2007, 21:37
Great to see you're making progress, and all the painted stuff is looking good. I like the defiler too, it's actually kind cute with its nubby lil' legs and such. Killy drill things should go far to eleviate that cute factor :evilgrin:

Good luck on making the tourny, or on getting as close as you damn well can. Dare I ask what the next project is? Not Eldar too???

- Salvage

Sleazy
09-02-2007, 15:36
so have you a name for the cult?

I'm trying to think of one for my cult in a kinda "Church of the Four-Armed Emperor" way

I'm using the Journal rules for mine though

scrubout
09-02-2007, 17:01
I can't figure out what your trying to reference on the fist...I'm sorry...

Though I had a cool idea, perhaps you could name this cult after the one in Resident Evil 4, Los Illuminados, which is what the symbol does vaguely reminds me of.

-peace out
scrubout:skull:

cerealkiller195
09-02-2007, 19:24
No name for it yet, i was trying to think of squad names and though i have a hand full i keep changing them. I didn't get to make it to the tourney as i have a new girl toy and time that would have gone to the cult was invested else where.

no worries though as we speak another 5 hybrids are priming and 4 cultists are being painted before i'm off into a drunken stupor.

but onto more news. actually the reference on his powerfist comes from Two-Face's coin it says DIE i dunno he reminded me of two face.

i still have to gs most of the defiler, have to find "plates" to cover up the holes, i think the worst thing when tackling the defiler is trying to think where would you "logically" place the weapons. Since its a salvaged mining vehicle so i want it to look the part.

Boss_Salvage
09-02-2007, 20:13
I didn't get to make it to the tourney as i have a new girl toy and time that would have gone to the cult was invested else where.
:skull: GIRL DOOOOOOOOM :skull:


*ahem*

I think the tourny was gonna be a huge stretch with or without womenfolk being involved, so not trying beat you up about it :angel:

Good to hear work is progressing all the same, and do enjoy your Friday I know I will :evilgrin:

- Salvage, whose girl 'toy' is in New York on business until late tonight ...

Logarithm Udgaur
13-02-2007, 01:48
Are those the old school sentinel legs you used for the Defiler? It looks really good, and I would like to try something similar for a Stalk Tank.

Edit: Also check out e-bay for plasticard. They seem to have a fairly good selection.

cerealkiller195
02-03-2007, 20:39
actually those are ork dread arms, quite popular for making defilers.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture005-4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture007-4.jpg

5 more hybrids including the boss and 5 cultists, they are still WIP just a few odds and ends to paint but i think they are looking good. For now on my desk i have a couple of stealers (i'm changing the paint scheme on the stealers somewhat).

but currently this is what is going to get worked on my next blog project!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/Picture009-5.jpg

Easy E
03-03-2007, 10:08
Don't get distracted by Skaven...

The defiler reminds me of the Reaper CAV Scorpion miniature. I'm to lazy to link it right now.

The best thing about Cultists is that almost any model will do. Keep up the great progress.

cerealkiller195
03-03-2007, 21:22
i think i have a vague idea what you are talking about ill google image it later.

yes i agree i think thats what i most love about that unit, i absolutely had no models planned for the unit. I looked into my bits box and saw all the minis i had from trades or random buys to make on of my most valuable units. I have to thank Aventine Crusader for the idea of using Allied Cultists from the Alpha Legion as a choice in a LATD army. They add some solid leadership and hand to hand capabilities.

i wont forget about the cult because they are my main 40k army as i sold my orks until i hear better rumors (another blog in the making). on the painting table besides the whole army i have to finish some touch ups on the guys above and i think thats about it infantry wise really. Atleast "humans", i have a few odds and ends like interchangeable heavy/special weapon guys.

painting the minis only really takes so little time since i have the paint scheme in my head already. i guess once you get a "uniform" in your mind things go really fast. mapping out teh colors and such. thats why i ddn't start the skaven just yet, still trying to figure how i want to paint/model things.

spring break is coming up which means i might actually get to play 2 days a week lol.

Boss_Salvage
05-03-2007, 15:47
Great to see some progress on the Cult. I dig the mutant boss with powerpaw, and the cultist mix continues to impress. Looking forward to seeing the defiler finished - plug: just converted up a defiler for my own Chaos boys ;) - and hear how the army does table side.

Also, where in Jersey are you at? I'm over in PA maybe 1.5 hours from NYC, so I'm guessing you're somewhere between here and there :D

- Salvage

Easy E
05-03-2007, 16:28
The CAV model was the Borsig-Spline Scorpion. Here's the link:

http://www.reapermini.com/gallery/cav/7010_G

cerealkiller195
14-06-2007, 07:12
threadmacy but in a good way, i finally confirmed my trip to GENCON 07 where my cult among many other small skirmish forces will be battling it out in open gaming and tournaments. so that means more cult work will get done!

here is my PIP of one of the characters i showed really early in the thread, i'm thinking about a yellow sash? but i'm not sure any ideas?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/andd95/IMG_0028.jpg

Boss_Salvage
15-06-2007, 20:00
Welcome back to the Cult, I'll be happy to see things get done before the con. When is it, so I can have a schedule for pestering you? ;)

- Salvage

Ray K.
15-06-2007, 20:36
Either a non-metalic gold or a dark red sash, yea. I'm leaning towards gold/yellow though.

cerealkiller195
15-06-2007, 20:42
yeah yellow seems like the color i'm leaning towards, now i have to buy a yellow color...

Boss yeah i'm glad the cult is going in again they are truly one of my "best" armies (right next to my orks a course!). GenCon is mid august 14-19? i believe. I'm redoing teh genestealers to fit more of the color scheme of the army. I'm going for the "traditional" color scheme on the stealers with the newer models. I have to get to 1750pts with not many or any vehicles because packing room in my case is going to be very tight (dark age, rezolution, infinity, 40k, etc...)

Boss_Salvage
18-06-2007, 15:58
Well, before you toss the defiler think we can get a shot of that? Not sure if it's finished, but I haven't seen it in much of an advanced stage yet.

- Salvage