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ChrisMurray
07-03-2014, 15:32
Hi everyone. I don't have a huge amount of space in my flat and was wondering what size point games do you recommend for say a 4x4 table. Would 750pts a side be a good size army? This would be friendly games between close friends so it doesn't need to be used for optimal lists. What is everyone elses experience of playing games on smaller sized tables? (I mean leass than the standard 6x4)

Also what size points do you recommend for zone mortalis games?

Lord-Gen Bale Chambers
07-03-2014, 15:50
I wouldn't go above 750 unless both sides had very low model count armies. Some armies are capable of filling their deployment zone on a 4x4 board with infantry at 500-750 pts.

4x4 works really well for the old 40k in 40 minutes, combat patrol missions (400pts).

Navar
07-03-2014, 16:29
I think you could do 1,000 points per side for a 4x4 table and have a decent game.

I would play terrain heavy at that point, and likely use a lot of urban terrain.

I have played several games using the Cityfight rules even up to 1,500 points on a 4x4 table, but with lots of terrain.

For Zone Mortalis I think they recommend 1,000 points per side. I have not played any games using the zone mortalis rules though.

NoStrangerToTheDark
07-03-2014, 16:33
4x4 is also great for Kill Team. Setting up a relatively dense cityscape and fighting is great. Really dense terrain on a smaller board, even if it is jungle or crystals or whatever keeps small games more interesting in my opinion.

Lord Damocles
07-03-2014, 19:02
1/3 less table = 1/3 less points. So about 1000.


Some armies are capable of filling their deployment zone on a 4x4 board with infantry at 500-750 pts.
You'd need upwards of 500 models to fill a 12" x 48" deployment zone.

Lord Damocles
07-03-2014, 19:19
Oh. Double post.

AndrewGPaul
07-03-2014, 19:27
You could also look at some of the specialised scenarios. Heavy use of Reserves or other ways in which models start off the board will cut down on congestion in the deployment zone. As will using high-cost, low model-count infantry units instead of huge hordes or squadrons of vehicles.

Ruination Drinker
07-03-2014, 19:59
4x4 table? Sounds like a perfect platform for an Escalation battle! :D

Camman1984
08-03-2014, 09:26
Before joining my fab gaming group i had never played on anything other than 4x4 and i found that anything above 1500 meant everything was tripping over itself and there wasnt room for much tactical movement. 1500 is doable for a lot of armies on 4x4 but i have seen things like guard practically fill their deployment zone and its dull.

Born Again
08-03-2014, 09:44
I've been playing on a 4 x 4 table for years due to space restrictions, and I play a lot of 500 point games on there which gives you lots of room to move around. 750 also works just fine, 1000 points is perfectly doable but if using a horde army expect things to get a little crowded and probably have to keep a unit or two in reserve. 1001-1500 could probably work with two small, elite-type armies but I've never tried it myself.

hobojebus
08-03-2014, 21:17
4x4 is fine for 1000 points, maybe stretch that to 1250 depends on what terrain you use and if someone is into horde armies.

gitburna
09-03-2014, 11:01
We played a lot of 750 point zone mortalis using a 4x3. It sounds like it should be too small but we found that there was so little line of sight and you could rarely walk a direct route, and so it helped to speed the game up a little. Having a strip along one side to roll dice and leave books was also good, as there ws precious little room on the main playing area.

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Harwammer
10-03-2014, 10:19
750 is fine on a 4x4. Check out example mission 4 in the BRB, Battleforce Recon (Suggested forces around 500 points, or 1 battleforce + HQ option).

If you need be worried about fitting your forces on the table; you can split your force up and put some of your grunts into reserves for the purposes of home objective capture / clearing out line breakers.

As with everything 40k experimentation works well, try a couple of games at this size on this table and see what works for you. I think small games are especially good for coming up with your own objectives.

Greyshadow
10-03-2014, 10:48
My knowledge of 40K is getting a bit out of date, (I am a dried-in-the-wool Warhammer Fantasy player now), but I have had some absolute cracking games on a 4x4. I'd even recommend players who have 6x4 or larger tables to have a go at this format. 500 - 1000 pts should be about right.

hobojebus
10-03-2014, 14:18
My knowledge of 40K is getting a bit out of date, (I am a dried-in-the-wool Warhammer Fantasy player now), but I have had some absolute cracking games on a 4x4. I'd even recommend players who have 6x4 or larger tables to have a go at this format. 500 - 1000 pts should be about right.

Part of a shrinking demographic then sadly, I haven't played warhammer in nine years I have the models still but lack any motivation to play I just stick to 40k as I was always more into sci-fi.

I think 750 is a bit low for 4x4 even on a smaller board that's gonna look empty.

Sternguard777
11-03-2014, 05:14
The board I normally play on is 4X4. I've played games as large as 1500pts and still had fun. It starts to feel cramped at that size though. I've found about 1000 to be ideal. Though if anyone plays a horde army be nice and don't spam templates.

Greyhound
11-03-2014, 06:08
we play on 6x4 up to 2k and we noticed that a side of the board is often devoid of any action, either because there is little objective, or because someone (my opponent or myself) decided to group my army into one dense ball of destruction to minise targets and maximise output.

I play a high model count (150+ orks) and he plays a very low amount (20-50 dark angels)