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Zanzibarthefirst
20-03-2014, 23:56
I've had plans on making an armoured company for years and the new IG might be enough to get me to do it.
At the moment I'm not sure what regiment I like.
I already have some Catachan infantry and they could form some armoured fist squads but they don't really fit in with the Amroured Comapny Theme.
I've just finished reading Tallarn: Executioner which has given me some ideas and they woudl fit nicely with my Iron Warriors army. The problem being I don't like the paint schemes as they look too similar to my friends Vossie army.
I've got a Blood angels and Orks so Steel Legion are another option but I ahven't read enough about them to get a feel for the.
I've got all the Vrak books and Krieg could be an option but an expensive one at that.

Any suggestions? What is your favourite armoured regiment and why?

Son of Morkai
21-03-2014, 00:28
How about Armageddon Ork Hunters fighting side-by-side with an actual Steel Legion Armored Company, brought in to help clear out Orks in an environment better suited to their skills than those of Steel Legion troopers. The tanks deal with the enemies in the streets, while the Ork Hunters act as scouts and clear the buildings.

Oboc
21-03-2014, 02:22
Tank general grizmund from gaunts ghosts. Use catachan parts combined with other kits to represent surviving civilians

Zanzibarthefirst
21-03-2014, 08:22
I pve only read the first Gaunts Ghosts so all I know about Grizmund is that he rides in a Mars pattern Leman russ.

LegioDestructor
21-03-2014, 15:48
How about Armageddon Ork Hunters fighting side-by-side with an actual Steel Legion Armored Company.This! Since it's all IG you don't have to have any allies or anything; just a regular Guard army with two kinds of models. The Catachans can either be the footslogging, building-clearing, ears of the army, or the force is an ad-hoc mix of survivors from former various Battalions.

Having BA and Orks only strengthens support for Steel Legion, or at least an army that participated in the Armageddon Wars. The Minervan Tank Legions were present and IIRC are a light grey. If you don't like the colours you can just say they're operating with camouflage for a particular warzone and paint them however you like.

My favourite Armoured Regiment is the Valhallan 28th who have a simple whitewash arctic camo scheme with red markings. They don't have much published history, but they have been honoured for their loyalty and may display the Imperial Aquila. Their Regiment, which is only described as fighting on the ice world of Adhara [and presumably, as all Valhallans, are specialists in arctic warfare], does include a Shadowsword Company and several Leman Russ variants. Also, the "Valhallan alphabet", for Russophilic backwards-letter zaniness.

Lord Damocles
21-03-2014, 20:45
I already have some Catachan infantry and they could form some armoured fist squads but they don't really fit in with the Amroured Comapny Theme.
Sure they do.

Catachan (if you even use them as actual Cadians) must have armoured companies amongst the hundreds/thousands of regiments they've raised for the Guard.

Even the Elysians have armoured companies.

Zanzibarthefirst
22-03-2014, 00:14
Sure they do.

Catachan (if you even use them as actual Cadians) must have armoured companies amongst the hundreds/thousands of regiments they've raised for the Guard.

Even the Elysians have armoured companies.

Sure they would have some armoured companies but when you think of a catachan army lots of tanks isn't the first thing you think of. I have just managed to get hold of one ofnthe FW tank commanders that has the loud speaker so I'm going to have at least one vanquisher in the army even if I dont use his rules.

wyvirn
22-03-2014, 16:37
Sure they do.

Catachan (if you even use them as actual Cadians) must have armoured companies amongst the hundreds/thousands of regiments they've raised for the Guard.

Even the Elysians have armoured companies.

Gasp! That would mean that the regiments are more than one dimensional archetypes!

Zanzibarthefirst
22-03-2014, 18:41
I like archtypes; I wouldn't have a White Scars army with a load of dreads in it, a Salamander army with lots of grav vehicles, whilst Iyanden armies shouldnt have loads of jetbikes

Killgore
23-03-2014, 08:35
Could say the Catachans are fighting on a swamp heavy world and require chimeras to traverse the terrain

Zanzibarthefirst
23-03-2014, 12:01
But what about all the heavy tanks rolling around? {EDIT: The new Damocles Warzon has a lot of formations for Catachan tanks and artillery so I may gie it a look.}
My interest now is leaning towards Steel Legion. Is there any essential reading for them and what about those Ork Hunters, where are they from.

Ironbone
23-03-2014, 17:50
and what about those Ork Hunters, where are they from.
Ork hunters have own army list and some fluff in old days of "chapter approved" books. 2003 or 2004 edition. Quite easy to find on internet :p.

Zanzibarthefirst
23-03-2014, 19:47
I've managed to dig out the old armaggedon codex and there is a brief mention of them in there. I did see somewhere about the ork hunters using shootas etc... Interesting conversion possibilities but they might look a bit too big in catachan hands.

Ironbone
23-03-2014, 20:19
Interesting conversion possibilities but they might look a bit too big in catachan hands
Duh, of course they will :p. What else can be expected about ork weapons in humans hands ;)?

Zanzibarthefirst
23-03-2014, 21:32
I've seen some conversions of Ork Hunters and the guns don't look too bad, not sure how choppas will look. I might get another box of catachans and some cadian bodies.
Are there any good 3rd party bits for making Steel Legion.
Does anyone have any links to the old Ork Hunter rules?

Ironbone
24-03-2014, 00:56
I once saw article about thier rules. But that was looong time ago ( 4 years ? 5 ? ). And in Polish, so i think it wouldn't be much help for you.

Well, here are rules from chapterr approved. They are outdated by several years and 2 editions, so i supose it won't hurt anyone feelings :D.

- they were based on old catachan codex ( wich is, funny fact, still downloadable from GW page ), with slightly altered army list.

- They have 3d6 ( and pick highest ) move throu forest/jungle, 4+ cover in forest/jungle and could ( except sentiniels) infiltrate into forest/jungle when mission was premiting infiltration.

- they hited orkz in cc always on 3+ ( old prefered enemy )

- They had own verion of "waaagh!!!" rule, ( called "Aaaagh!!! rule :p ). At begining of charge, unit could make bodycount check - roll 2k6, and compare unit size. If roll was lower or equal, unit doubled their inicjiative ( exactly how old waaagh used to work )

- Fire sweep teams could take choopas at +2 pts per model. Back then choppas chop down enemy armour save to max 4+ ( yes, 2+ and 3+ armour was counted as 4+ ). Models with choopas have inicjiative 2

- Ork hunters patrols sould take shootas for +1 ppm. Shoota armed models have BS2
- Characters may buy choopas (2ppm), sluggas (1ppm) and shootas (1ppm)

And army list :


HQ
Ork hunters Command HQ ( deathworld command HQ with adjustmets )
0-5 comissars ( as per codex IG )

Elites
Ork hunter fire sweep teams ( deathworld veteran assoult teams with adjustments )
Ogryns ( as per codex IG )

TR
Ork hunters infantry platoon ( deathworld infantry platoon with adjustments )

FA
Ork hunter sentiniel squadron ( deathworld sentiniel squadron with adjustments )
Ork hunters patrol ( deathworld veteran patrol squadron with adjustments )

HS
0-2 Mortal heavy weapon squads
bobby traps
0-1 armoured support vechicle ( chimera, hellhound, LR exterminator, or Basilisk )



All from chapter approved 2003.

Zanzibarthefirst
26-03-2014, 08:42
Ork hunters from the 5th edition books will simply be infantryplatoons, veteran squads with Harker, sentinels, ogryns with a hellhound. I can fit that in as an allied detachment.
How onto the main bit, the steel Legion armoured company; a vanquisher is a must for me and a destroyer for personal tastes. Where to go from there.