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@allmyownbattles
05-04-2014, 11:56
There's too much GW bashing about about, let's celebrate some of its greatness instead. Does any one know if there's a collect of links anywhere to information about the history of GW?

Like many of you I'm sure, I long to be able to revisit the old stores and explore. Just catching glimpses of GW's past will suffice until time travel arrives.

I'll start us off with a couple of links.

Amazing LARPing documentary featuring very early GW footage: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ItRW9uXfIQ

Ian Livingston talks about the Owl and Weasel: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fDj38BvtqB4


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BFalcon
05-04-2014, 12:24
Good luck!

I find the LARP documentary pretty funny - wasn't it them who brushed it off as "running around waving rubber swords" originally? :)

Nice finds though - thanks!

TheFang
05-04-2014, 14:06
12 year old Jervis playing D&D. :D

MusingWarboss
05-04-2014, 23:16
Have a look at part 2. Nice to see the customer relations haven't changed much. Describing customers as "Frothers" and their banter as "It's like being told about a movie that you're not interested in seeing."

Worth watching just for Ben Elton's clear disgust at having to present the programme.

Athelassan
06-04-2014, 02:47
Have a look at part 2. Nice to see the customer relations haven't changed much. Describing customers as "Frothers" and their banter as "It's like being told about a movie that you're not interested in seeing.".
To be fair, "frothers" is an old term for wargamers, and one proudly adopted by sections of the community (http://www.frothersunite.com/). Kind of like "grognard", but with less suggestion of whinging.

Some of the Oldhammer blogs go into detail about the history of GW. Realm of Chaos quite regularly has interviews with personalities of the era - Rick Priestley, Bryan Ansell, etc. This (http://fightingfantasist.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/15mm-rouge-trader-project-part-1.html?zx=426fab5de51bd66e) Fighting Fantasist blog post (possibly some strong language - there is in the rest of the blog) has a bit on GW history, even if it's mostly lies. Obviously the Oldhammer stuff is fairly nostalgia-y but they were around at the time and have a handle on some of the early developments that even modern veterans will only have read about in WD, etc.

MusingWarboss
06-04-2014, 03:45
They've taken the word back and made it their own!! :D It was 1984, so the term had probably only been about a few years by then. Still a very funny little video though.

I do second taking a look I over at the Realm of Chaos blog, whilst Oldhammery Nostalgic at times it does have some very good interviews and other stuff, I drop by it occasionally and see if there's anything new (old? New-old?) on there. Often digs up some interesting stuff.

cornonthecob
06-04-2014, 11:16
I'd love for a book to be released about the history, I think it would sell ok, if marketed as 'The history of Britians most prolific hobby company' and they play up the 'we did well during the reccession when no one else did' angle.

shelfunit.
06-04-2014, 11:45
'we did well during the reccession when no one else did' angle.

Other than being demonstrably untrue, I doubt they'd be racing to include the afterword entitled "but it's begining to come off the rails now"

cornonthecob
07-04-2014, 10:17
Other than being demonstrably untrue, I doubt they'd be racing to include the afterword entitled "but it's begining to come off the rails now"

Really ? I thought the money guys on warseer had crunched the numbers and it looked fairly good for them (up until now of course) plus there was a few interviews with the BBC about how they were one of the few 'ok' areas in britain during the recession.

Sanai
07-04-2014, 10:24
I would love to see some cool timelines or something, maybe like timelines of all of the space marine vehicle kits ever made with what editions they were for and what dates they were released.

shelfunit.
07-04-2014, 10:38
Really ? I thought the money guys on warseer had crunched the numbers and it looked fairly good for them (up until now of course) plus there was a few interviews with the BBC about how they were one of the few 'ok' areas in britain during the recession.

Quite the opposite infact. All the numbers for the last 4-5 years financials have shown essentially static revenue, with clear drops in purchasing volume (basically fewer customers) when compared to price increases and inflation.

Ghal Maraz
07-04-2014, 11:07
Some bits and pieces:

Interview with Steve Jackson, about a variety of things: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/06/feature_interview_steve_jackson/

Steve Baxter on GW Books/Boxtree: http://www.scribd.com/doc/179789861/Vector-Magazine-Freedom-in-an-Owned-World-pdf (http://www.scribd.com/doc/179789861/Vector-Magazine-Freedom-in-an-Owned-World-pdf)(it's on Realm of Chaos 80s blog too, see below)

The Oldhammer Wiki: http://wiki.oldhammer.org.uk/v/Main_Page

Interview with Rick Priestley: http://talesfromthemaelstrom.blogspot.it/2011/09/rick-priestley-interview.html

The aforementioned Realm of Chaos 80s blog: http://realmofchaos80s.blogspot.it/

Other Oldhammer blogs, particularly:

- Fighting Fantasist (warning: strong language!) http://fightingfantasist.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://fightingfantasist.blogspot.co.uk/)

- Realm of Zhu http://realmofzhu.blogspot.co.uk/


Hope it helps!

Athelassan
07-04-2014, 22:32
I would love to see some cool timelines or something, maybe like timelines of all of the space marine vehicle kits ever made with what editions they were for and what dates they were released.
That isn't too hard up until about 2000.

1987 November - Dreadnoughts Mk1
1987 December - Space Marine Jet Cycle
1988 March - Vincent Black Shadow (Attack Bike Mk1)
1988 April - Rhino Mk1
1988 May - Landspeeder Mk1
1988 June - Space Marine Medic on Bike
1988 August - Land Raider Mk1 (originally two to a box for 9.99 if you can believe that!)
1989 April - Predator Mk1
1993 - Dreadnought Mk3
1993 - Bjorn the Fell-Handed
1994 - Razorback
1994 - Land Speeder Mk2
1995 - Dreadnought Mk3 (Death Company sarcophagus)
1995 - Dreadnought Mk3 (Dark Angels sarcophagus)
1995 - Whirlwind
1996 - Space Marine Bike Mk2
1996 - Ravenwing Land Speeder
1997 - Space Marine Attack Bike
1997 - Predator Mk2
1998 - Predator Annihilator
1999 - Land Speeder Mk3
1999 - Land Speeder Typhoon
1999 - Master of the Ravenwing
1999 - Baal Predator
1999 - Vindicator

I do have a feeling there was another Dreadnought and another Land Speeder between 1989 and 1993, but can't find anything to support that.

After 1999 it gets a bit harder because GW stopped issuing annual catalogues. I'm as sure as I can be the Land Raider Mk2 was released in 2000, and I think the Crusader followed in 2001. The plastic Dreadnought appeared before 2003, as did the Land Speeder Tornado. The Mk2 Rhino appeared around the same time.

After that I completely lose track. The Vindicator, Predator, Whirlwind and Razorback have all been replaced at least once. The Crusader has been replaced and joined by the Redeemer. The Attack bike upgrade has also been replaced. The Stalker/Hunter, Venerable Dreadnought, Stormtalon, Stormraven, Land Speeder Storm, Drop Pod and Thunderfire Cannon have been added, as have all the Forge World things. (I'm pretty sure the Stormraven arrived in 2011, and the Stormtalon before that). The Centurions appeared in 2013, iirc. I'm not sure when we got the Scout Bikes, but I think they've been around a while.

Still remaining in the range from the list above are the Land Raider Mk2, the Land Speeder Mk3 and the 1996 Space Marine Bike, which must be one of the oldest plastic kits GW still have on sale by now.