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ezikeeill
04-06-2014, 21:35
Hey guys,

I'm wanting to create a battleforged tournament legal army with really beefy troops - like super expensive.
I don't really like having hundreds of models on the table.

I thought about creating an unbound assassin army which is cool but i want something that i can play at tournaments and also holding objectives is nice!

I've thought about my choices of troops and came up with Tyranid warriors.

At 50 a piece they can have deveourers, lashwhips and boneswords so 3 for 150 points.

Does anyone have a better idea for creating a list with really elite-type troops having the least amount of models on the table?

It doesn't have to be tyranids any army would be good to look into.

Please post your ideas,

Thanks,

Ezi.

Fox Of 9
04-06-2014, 21:40
Deathwing terminators lists
Grey knight paladin lists
Grey knight terminator & Dreadknight lists
IG tank command and MechVet lists.
Dread heavy Motf list with min scout troops..

Off the top of my head..

EDIT: What sort of points we looking at.. you after examples?

David.

Charistoph
04-06-2014, 21:40
Greg Knight Paladin list lead by Draigo.

Deathwing/Wolfwing/Strike Force Alpha. All Terminators, all the time.

Deffwing. Also known as how many Mega-Armoured Nobs you can field.

Blood Angel Death Company.

Imperial Knights.

Farsight Enclave. Crisis Suits galore.

Lord Damocles
04-06-2014, 21:42
A Grey Knight Draigowing is probably the closest match. With prices of Paladins starting at a chunky 55 points each, and rising to near 200 for a single model, you'll eat up your points allowance fast.

Denny
04-06-2014, 21:43
Grey knight terminators are an obvious contender.

Not sure of the points cost though . . .

EDIT: Nevermind, I got ninjaed. Ninjaed pretty bad . . .

ezikeeill
04-06-2014, 22:00
Wow thanks heaps guys for your prompt replies - honestly this is just the type of discussion i need to have.
Can someone give me a run down of what a list would look like.

If possible could we steer away from anything imperial - i'm not a fan of the good guys - i'm a villian to the end.

Please keep the idea flowing guys!!

Thanks,

Ezi.

Fox Of 9
04-06-2014, 22:09
Grand master Mordrak 200 pts


Ordo xenos inquisitor 70 pts
Conversion beamer


Paladin Squad (5 men) 305 pts
Psybolt ammunition
Incinerator
Incinerator


Purgation squad 180 pts
4x Psycannons


Grey knight terminator squad (5 men) 235 pts
Psilencer
Psybolt ammunition


Grey knight terminator squad (5 men) 235 pts
Psilencer
Psybolt ammunition


Nemesis dreadknight 260 pts
Heavy Incinerator
Nemesis greatsword
Personal teleporter


Nemesis dreadknight 260 pts
Heavy Incinerator
Nemesis greatsword
Personal teleporter

Grey knight list 1750pts (always can be modeled as traitor marines ect.. ect.. ect..)

Tank commander squadron 495 pts
Vanquisher
Tank commander
Multi-melta sponsons
Vanquisher
Multi-melta sponsons
Vanquisher
Multi-melta sponsons


Leman russ tank squadron 450 pts
Punisher
Heavy flamer sponsons
Punisher
Heavy flamer sponsons
Punisher
Heavy flamer sponsons


Leman russ tank squadron 405 pts
Eradicator
Heavy flamer sponsons
Dozer blade
Eradicator
Heavy flamer sponsons
Dozer blade
Eradicator
Heavy flamer sponsons
Dozer blade

Veterans 200 pts
Plasma gun
Plasma gun
Plasma gun
Grenadiers
Chimera

Veterans 200 pts
Plasma gun
Plasma gun
Plasma gun
Grenadiers
Chimera


Again 1750pts and can be model as traitor guard ect ect ect..

David.

ezikeeill
04-06-2014, 22:18
Great ideas David - thanks alot for you help.

Any ideas on this deffdred idea? - mega nob orks sound pertty cool to me!!

How are they allowed to be troops?

Fox Of 9
04-06-2014, 22:22
Great ideas David - thanks alot for you help.

Any ideas on this deffdred idea? - mega nob orks sound pertty cool to me!!

How are they allowed to be troops?

No-worries..

Orks. So they're getting a new codex but in the old one Ghazghkull thraka made them troops..

So thats 225pts for him then the rest can go on the meganobz

David

ezikeeill
04-06-2014, 22:31
Thanks so much David - you rule!!

Any other ideas team?

Fox Of 9
04-06-2014, 22:32
Thanks so much David - you rule!!

Any other ideas team?

Not really me.. more my game group.. we joint own all the codices.

David

DoctorTom
04-06-2014, 22:45
If you're trying to avoid Imperial, go with a Farsight Enclave. Fielding the original characters for that will burn up the points quickly.

Charistoph
04-06-2014, 23:03
No-worries..

Orks. So they're getting a new codex but in the old one Ghazghkull thraka made them troops..

So thats 225pts for him then the rest can go on the meganobz

David

Currently any Warboss will make one Nob squad Troops each.

As Fox said, though, they have a new codex coming in this month, so who knows what changes will be made and how MANs will interact.

But for other non-Imperials besides Orks, Farsight or Iyanden may give you a good shot at it. Farsight has Crisis Suits as Troops, plus the Samurai Seven Command Squad. Iyanden is the Wraith supplement, and those boys aren't cheap.

But neither really competes with the Terminator/Paladin armies for minimum size.

Latro_
04-06-2014, 23:14
Csm plague marine army is still pretty good on the table and you won't need many models if you back em up with obits daemon princes and drakes

Aryllon
04-06-2014, 23:22
Imperials are villains mate, didn't you get the memo?! :angel:

Knights would be the most obvious but yeah Imperial etc.

Non-Imperial... Abaddon makes chosen troops, pimp them up for assault and they can reach 320pts for five (64pts each). Three squads of those plus Abby = 1225pts for 16 Space Marine infantry!
Fun but hardly competitive.

Eldar corsairs, half your troops have to be corsairs (just do squads of 5 with jet packs and heavy weapons) but the other half can be squads of Wasp assault walkers!

Blood Angels led by Dante allow you to take Sanguinary Guard troops I think... just run them as 'counts as Night Lords'.

ezikeeill
04-06-2014, 23:23
So is it possible (besides any new rules coming) that i could take 2 deatchments with each having 2 bosses and 2 units of 10 meagnobs?
So i would have 4 bosses and 40 meganobs?

ezikeeill
04-06-2014, 23:25
Csm plague marine army is still pretty good on the table and you won't need many models if you back em up with obits daemon princes and drakes

Yeah i also thought about plague marines.

ezikeeill
04-06-2014, 23:25
Imperials are villains mate, didn't you get the memo?! :angel:

Knights would be the most obvious but yeah Imperial etc.

Non-Imperial... Abaddon makes chosen troops, pimp them up for assault and they can reach 320pts for five (64pts each).
Eldar corsairs, half your troops have to be corsairs (but just do squads of 5 with jet packs and heavy weapons) but the other half can be squads of Wasp assault walkers!
Blood Angels led by Dante allow you to take Sanguinary Guard troops I think... just run them as 'counts as Night Lords'.


Interesting idea with abaddon- thanks for your thoughts!!

Aryllon
04-06-2014, 23:45
Abaddon, Ahriman, Typhus, Daemon Prince
2 squads of 5 chosen
2 squads of 5 plague marines
Heldrake / baleflamer

All the options = 2435pts

25 models total averaging almost 100pts each.

You're going to be crushing the psychic phase! Summon daemons if you're short on numbers.

ezikeeill
04-06-2014, 23:47
Abaddon, Ahriman, Typhus, Daemon Prince
2 squads of 5 chosen
2 squads of 5 plague marines
Heldrake / baleflamer

All the options = 2435pts

25 models total averaging almost 100pts each.

You're going to be crushing the psychic phase too (remember you can summon Daemons, probably Plaguebearers if you want to hold objectives).


Ha interesting thoughts - thanks! :)

Karhedron
05-06-2014, 14:55
Eldar Iyanden Wraithhost lists.

HQ: Spiritseer or Shadow Council (makes Wraithguard and Wraithblades Troops)
Troops: Wraithguard or Wraithblades of whatever flavour you like.
Heavy: Wraithlords and Wraithknights

You can easily add in a few Wave Serpents to speed up the army and increase you capability to deal with infantry hordes, light vehicles and aircraft without increasing your model count by much.

Chem-Dog
05-06-2014, 16:52
Dante plus Sanguinary Guard.

If you don't like Imperials run it as unique Chaos Champion and his specialised retinue of killers.

*Cough*Nightlords*Cough*

*Cough*Deathmask rules to represent Feeeeear*Cough*