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KnightofUltramar
26-06-2006, 12:12
Ok, this morning I finally received my package with my elysians. I've got:
1 vulture,
1 cyclops,
6 sniper teams,
2 troop squads
and 3 HB teams.

I also ordered:
2 sentinels, 1 meltagun squad and 1 HQ with plasma gun, but those were out of stock, so they will be shipped to me in the next few weeks (I hope:confused: )

I'll post some pics of the package this afternoon

KoU

Mortare
26-06-2006, 13:18
6 sniper teams? Thats quite impressive, as is the amount of items ordered in one go. Look forward to the pics

KnightofUltramar
26-06-2006, 13:39
Just finished washing the first squad and the cyclops.

@mortare: 6 sniper teams are 12 men, that's 2 sniper kits from FW.

Here are some pics of the assembling guides from what I've got:

Vulture
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/d3ce0036.jpg

troops
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/scan2.jpg

HB squads
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/scan3.jpg

More pics will follow today,

KoU

and snipers
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/scan4.jpg

spikyjames
26-06-2006, 13:45
looking forward to seeing this coming together.

james

Jansen
26-06-2006, 13:57
Elysians are fantastic! I wish I could afford them ..

Good luck! Keep us posted ;)

Mortare
26-06-2006, 15:30
Sorry, i had visions of 6 packs of sniper teams! Looks like a decent workload to keep you busy, may your tea cup never empty and your paints not run dry :angel:

KnightofUltramar
26-06-2006, 16:12
no sorry, but that would be twice the amount of snipers you can play with.

KnightofUltramar
26-06-2006, 18:07
+++ UPDATE +++

First figure assembled:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0481.jpg

and the back:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0482.jpg

and here are some pics of the thingies I received today:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0480.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0479.jpg

That's all for today,

Tomorrow I've got to get my schooltest results and after that I'm going swimming with a few classmates, so not very much work will be done, but I'll post my what my targets are for this summer and this army. Wednesday I'm going to GW The Hague.

And thanks for replies,

KoU

Unique1
26-06-2006, 18:24
How much dosh do you have????????

still in school, and buying all that, jeesus.

looking good sofar, i've always loved elysians.

Deadleyheadley
26-06-2006, 18:34
I will be keeping me on this thread ,I will be stealing ideas for my elysians ,I cant wait to see your colour scheme ,Keep up the good work :)

KnightofUltramar
26-06-2006, 18:35
@ unique1:
guys at GW The Hague said that as well, but I'm 14, so haven't much to worrie about (with a few exceptions) and I've got a well paid job. I've got 4 more years to go before I can go to university and I can tell you that's a very short time.

@deadley: the colorscheme won't be very special, actually I don't even have a colorscheme yet.

cookiescrumble
26-06-2006, 18:41
I'll be watching this thread, love the elysians but don't have the money.

Btw those forgeworld instructions are rubbish! More like "we've made them, heres some pictures. Now you try!"

Mortare
26-06-2006, 18:48
If you can, its worth washing the forgeworldstuff. It helps to remove the stuff they put in the moulds to stop them sticking, and that stuff can make paint flake off. Doesnt always happen, but annoying when it does

KnightofUltramar
26-06-2006, 18:52
@cookiescrumble: If you've got some spare money sometime, it's really worth buying some elysians, they're way better then normal guardsmen, much more detail.

@mortare: I know, I alteady washed them and after assembly I think I'll wash them again to get rid of the last mouldstuff and resin dust and dry them carefully with a towel and after that leave them to dry for a day or 2

lee
26-06-2006, 19:56
elysians lee love:D

cookiescrumble
26-06-2006, 19:59
I would of bought an army of them but i decided on spending 400 on an armoured company instead.

Maybe i'll wait till i get my student loan...

lee
26-06-2006, 20:03
stop showing off paul i spent more than that on three tanks:D

KnightofUltramar
26-06-2006, 20:03
@cookiescrumble: armoured companies are cool, but I'd rather have elysians, because I love flying (I'm gonna be a 2nd generation pilot I hope:D ) and there for I love elysians. and the models are way better then al gw models together IMHO.

lee
26-06-2006, 20:13
are the elysians bigger than normal plastic guard mintures. also some one said to me they are a little fragile is that correct

KnightofUltramar
26-06-2006, 20:19
they're smaller then normal guardsmen, I think GW guardsmen are called herioc scale men and elysians are called true scale. and yes, they're a bit fragile (sniper barel, pointing finger, vox cable) but I don't think they're more fragile then normal guardsmen. I'll post a size comparison tommorow afternoon.

KoU

P.S.: finished a squad vox-operator

Jansen
26-06-2006, 20:50
Cool.. 14, Dutch, and enough money to buy Elysians :D


Succes ;)

Deadleyheadley
26-06-2006, 20:52
P.S.: finished a squad vox-operator
Pictures please :)

Still learning
27-06-2006, 01:33
one question, why didn't you wait and spend all the money on death Korps?

i brought some elysians, and there for sale if any one wants them. PM me.

cookiescrumble
27-06-2006, 08:47
The reason is i love tanks! I also already have a 2500pt infantry army. Also the elysians being fragile is what put me off and i hate working with resin so kept it to a minimum.

Anyway, would love to see some pics.

pompeyladbfp
27-06-2006, 15:51
well how odd two elysian armies on the go.... mine is on here too... was a delay as had to finish tau for a tourney (1st place :) ) and awaiting paint from dwhs. good luck, im going to be posting up colour chemes asap, but decided on bases already

KnightofUltramar
27-06-2006, 16:28
@deadley: pics will be here this evening. I got my test results from school today and I'm quite happy with them, I can do better though. and after that I went swimming with some classmates and I'm home for about half an hour.

@still learning: first, my dad is a captain onboard of a helicopter, so I like flying and chose elysians for that reason and I didn't wan't to wait for them to arrive, since I haven't got school the next 2 months.

@cookiescrumble: resin isn't that awefull to work with, it's just a bit different IMO

@pompeyladbfp: good luck with your army, I'd like to see some of your elysians

pompeyladbfp
27-06-2006, 18:47
yes resin ive found is probably easier than most gw multipart plastics due to not much flash... only annoyance is once glued its pretty much glued! and the pre cleaning but a electric toothbrush with a old head and a sink of soapy water does the trick.

KOU: just sprayed a flamer squad and first squad my army will be at 1500
com hq, missile, hbolter, mortar, flamers/dc, mgun dc
2 com sqds, 2 mgun/dc squads, 2 grenade squads
vet squad 3 plasma, vet squad 3 plasma, vet squad 3 melta
3hbolt tarantula, 3 lascanoon tarantula (using pred sponsons coverted)

no flyers in core force but will increase army using flyers and sents, good luck

KnightofUltramar
27-06-2006, 20:28
@pompeyladbfp: sounds good, are you using IA3 or 4 (D-99). I'm using D-99. maybe I'll buy some mortars (just for fun, can't have them in D-99) and extra troops and maybe a valkyrie or I'll just wait 4 months for my birthday.

sorry to everyone, but no pics tonight, I've got a big headache from being too active today (I'm a more lazy kinda guy :P )

Destris
27-06-2006, 20:31
Love the Elysians, cant wait to see this finished. but how much would postage for that lot be to Florida? :(

pompeyladbfp
27-06-2006, 20:37
postage is 12% from fw to anywhere..... or free if spending £250 i beleive. i spent £250, yes i considered d99 originally and thats what made me buy them, but am going to do basic army so can use them as normal drop troop doctrine guardsmen without much fuss...
my d99 force was going to include a 300 point deathwatch if i did them too... i may paint thyem up so can swap between d99 and basic elysians, but the elysians will be main priority (and i have 3 vet squads anyway lol) sniper squads do look good in d99 though (scoring units too?)

KnightofUltramar
27-06-2006, 20:46
@pompeyladbfp: don't know if they're scoring units, because I'm not really in the game, I'm more a painter and I hope to win a golden demon sometime

cookiescrumble
28-06-2006, 08:59
Shame there is no pics.

Hope you have a face mask when cleaning up that resin!

KnightofUltramar
28-06-2006, 09:14
@cookiescrumble: not yet, but I'm only using a knife and if I'n using a file, I always blow away the resin dust. But I think my dad has got them lying around somewhere. This afternoon I'll post pics and if I don't shoot me or something like that

KnightofUltramar
28-06-2006, 16:09
been to GW The Hague today, and almost assembled my first squad. for people who are interested in my colourscheme, I'll be using the drop-trooper on page 27 of IA4 as a reference point. pics will be online tonight

KoU

cookiescrumble
28-06-2006, 17:02
Still no pics then?

Deadleyheadley
28-06-2006, 17:08
been to GW The Hague today, and almost assembled my first squad. for people who are interested in my colourscheme, I'll be using the drop-trooper on page 27 of IA4 as a reference point. pics will be online tonight

KoU
Looking forward to the pictures :)

KnightofUltramar
28-06-2006, 17:35
@deadley: I'm gonna bend a part in hot water and after that, I'll make pics, I promise

Deadleyheadley
28-06-2006, 18:32
@deadley: I'm gonna bend a part in hot water and after that, I'll make pics, I promise
Thanks :) What you bending ?

KnightofUltramar
28-06-2006, 18:40
@deadley: just an arm getting an ammo pack from it's belt.

@everyone: here's a preview of the WIP squad, I'll post pics of the squad members who are (almost) finished when I'm back, gonna visit my brother now.

here's squad Alpha
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0487.jpg

cookiescrumble
28-06-2006, 18:42
Not sure about the running guy in the middle. Looks like he is falling over.

Looking good though.

Mortare
28-06-2006, 19:14
Yeah, looks like he's just tripped and is stumbling along. Also, the guy second from the right looks as if he would fall over if he fires his weapon

CaputMortuum
28-06-2006, 19:48
I kind of like the guy stumbling with the demo charge, it depicts the uncertainty of that particular weapon. :)

caput

KnightofUltramar
28-06-2006, 20:47
actually he's running towards an enemy target and I don't know for you guys, but I would NOT run straight up, but I would make myself very small.

anyway, here are the pics of squad alpha:

Vox
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0496.jpg

Demo
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0494.jpg

Reload (wip)
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0492.jpg

Serg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0491.jpg

KnightofUltramar
28-06-2006, 20:48
Take aim
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0490.jpg

Fire!
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0489.jpg

Shoutin' trooper
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0488.jpg

tomorrow more

C&C welcome,

KoU

Deadleyheadley
28-06-2006, 21:03
Looking good ,Im not to sure about the Demo charge bloke if his head was looking up more it might work, But the rest look sweet :)

KnightofUltramar
28-06-2006, 21:08
@deadley: the problem is that I can't do that with his head, but I have to agree his pose is a bit weird. I'll try to make the other demo charge better

Brush your teeth
28-06-2006, 21:18
looking good. also ive just realised that those elysian rifles have a cool bulpup style clip port.

damn i want them even more now

keep up the good work. any ideas on a colour scheme yet?

KnightofUltramar
28-06-2006, 21:23
@brush your teeth: yep, catachan green uniform, codex grey + catachan green armour and black boots, visor, gun and armoured sections of the uniform (upper arms and legs).

Could someone with IA4 look on page 27 for the drop troop drawing and tell me if my colour scheme would match the drawing? (except for the armoured uniform sections)

thanks,

KoU

Mortare
28-06-2006, 22:10
Light green fatigues (scorpion greenish), pale grey armour, yellowish khaki pouches, black boots and olive green weapon. Those are the colours from page 27, though i am not sure what the similar paint colours would be

KnightofUltramar
29-06-2006, 08:59
thanks mortare, but I don't like scorpion green, so I'll go for catachan green with camogreen highlights. I'm gonna wash the HB sprue today so I can finish a whole squad.

KoU

Mortare
29-06-2006, 10:47
A good choice, the scorpion green looks too acidic and light, the catachan sounds like a better bet. Did you decide whether to go D99 or standard list, or have you got enough to do both?

KnightofUltramar
29-06-2006, 10:53
@mortare: I'll go D-99 and when I've got money agian, I'll buy IA3 and some more elysians. I'm thinking of making this my primary 40k army, so maybe 2000/3000 points.

I've just sended an e-mail to FW about the missing meltagun squad, so I hope I'll get a reply in to next few days.

P.S.: I think a scorpion green suit just says on thing: SHOOT ME!!!

KoU

Still learning
29-06-2006, 11:38
or you could go desert like me. Delta force inspirered elysian

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h252/amacdo/IMG_0990.jpg

KnightofUltramar
29-06-2006, 11:45
@still learning: looks good, but it doesn't look like desert, it looks more like jungle , because of the green. But it still looks very good. I'm gonna spray the test model, but first I'm gonna clean a HB team.

KoU

Still learning
29-06-2006, 13:07
there only green on the gloves.

Mortare
29-06-2006, 13:34
Still learning, could you give us some other pics, like that scheme but the shadow sems to make the khaki look a different colour on his top half

@KoU: do you know what sort of bases you are going to go for yet, i would assume a sort of semi tropical with that colour scheme, sort of grasslands and woodlands style

KnightofUltramar
29-06-2006, 13:44
@mortare: I'm thinking of a woodland with a muddy ground, because Beta Anphelion V is a woodland planet, but I've got no idea on how to make muddy bases.

I also need some help with the assembly of the heavybolters, because they're quite difficult to assemble.

KoU

P.S.: problem solved with the assembly, don't need any help anymore

KnightofUltramar
29-06-2006, 20:18
almost finished with the assembly of squad alpha: 1 vet serg w/aux grenade launcher, 1 vox, 4 vets w/lasgun, 1 vet w/gren launcher, 1 vet w/lasgun+democharge and 1 HB team. pics tomorrow. I'll also start painting the testmodel tomorrow.

KnightofUltramar
30-06-2006, 11:40
+++UPDATE+++

Here are some pics of (almost) completed squad Alpha. The only thing I have to do is give the HB team their equipment (ammo, waterbottle, knife and grenade). Oh, and don't pay attention to the GS hole in the HB base.

Squad Alpha
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0497.jpg

and some closeups of the HB squad

Front
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0500.jpg

Left
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0501.jpg

Right
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0502.jpg

KnightofUltramar
30-06-2006, 11:41
Right again
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0503.jpg

Look we're pinned to the base and can be removed
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/IMG_0504.jpg


Gonna start painting the testmodel and let's hope it's finished tomorrow :p .

C&C welcome,

KoU

Still learning
30-06-2006, 13:06
remember take your time on the painting. PM sent

KnightofUltramar
30-06-2006, 13:19
@still learning: I'll take my time, but I've almost finished painting the clothing. how did you paint the red visor? check your inbox.

KoU

Jansen
30-06-2006, 14:32
Since when can you take a special weapon, a heavy weapon AND a demolition charge with elysians? I though they couldn't take heavy weapons in regular squads?

Mortare
30-06-2006, 14:36
You can with D99

KnightofUltramar
30-06-2006, 15:33
jep, you're right Mortare. the demo charge is a compensation for the lack of antitank I thougt (like no lascannon), but I'm not sure about that though.

Mortare
30-06-2006, 15:53
By the way, like the model that is reaching to its ammo pouch to reload, nice to have characterful figs like that in a squad

Naghaz
30-06-2006, 16:09
Nice looking unit there! I'm in the minority apparently as I really like the demo charge pose. It's as if he's rushing through a hail of bullets and las-beams keeping his profile small and his head down in order to deliver his deadly package! The trooper reloading is also great.

Nice job.

CaputMortuum
30-06-2006, 19:06
I haven't been able to figure out what's D99.
Something from Anphelion Project?

caput

KnightofUltramar
30-06-2006, 19:58
@caputmortuum: It's D company, 99th Elysian regiment. trained in anti-'Nid fighting.

@naghaz: Finally someone who doesn't think it isn't a weird pose, thanks :p .

I'm thinking of making some sort of camo netting for the HB squads, like in Call of duty in the first few missions above the artillery dugouts, but then a bit smaller. Any suggestions or techniques for this?

KoU

Unique1
30-06-2006, 20:01
Maybe just gun netting would be better, cause i dont se D-99 sitting still, i see them making surgical strikes to get brood nests etc. looking sharp, and i dont mind the demo charge pose either, in fact... I LIKE IT!!

KnightofUltramar
30-06-2006, 20:10
@unique1: I intend to stay put with the HB squads, because they're heavy weapons and can't shoot if you move. And in real life, I think they'll look for a good spot to shoot from.

Still learning
01-07-2006, 01:34
OK as someone requested more photoes of my elysian.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h252/amacdo/Elysians/IMG_1057.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h252/amacdo/Elysians/IMG_1058.jpg

The red visor is made by painting red gore i think and then doing streaks across with a lighter colour as well as lightlighting the edges

KnightofUltramar
01-07-2006, 11:56
@still learning: Looks good there. That's one fine looking Elysian. Nice desert colour. Could you tell me about the idea of the mudd bases?

I'm gonna try to finish the test model, but it's very busy around here and hot, too hot.

KoU

Wolf-Tau
01-07-2006, 12:30
@stilllearning
@knightofultramar

I am starting an Elysian force as well. I hope to see more posts from you guys. I am waiting for the last of my units to show up from FW.

I find it hard putting together a force I can play. I would like to have Vet Sgts with Plasma pistols but there are no Plasma pistol arms. So I am having to covert the plasma pistols.

I wish there were more Pistol arms available. Are you guys having the same problem?

WT

Still learning
01-07-2006, 13:04
oh i forgot, my bad KoU. i'm currently doing a diarama of some german guys and one of the things i wanted to include on it was mud. after much thinking i came up with the idea.

Polyfilla

Cheap, easy to shape and paint, looks great.

here are some pics of my results. The mud has tyre tracks and stuff through it.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h252/amacdo/IMG_1038.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h252/amacdo/IMG_1039.jpg




@ wolf-tau, i'v only painted one elysian atm and havn't even based him. i tried a cityfight scheme, i'll post that. hav't tried converting plasma pistols at all.

KnightofUltramar
01-07-2006, 13:16
@wolf-tau: First of all I'd like to know which list you're using: D-99 or the normal list from IA3. If you're using D-99 because you can use the auxilery grenade launcher for the vet serg's lasgun. If you still want to use plasma pistols though there are only two solutions: sculpting the arms, because cadian arms are to big or you could use E-Bay, but that would be expensive. If I were you I'd consider using a normal lasgun

@still learning: Is that polyfilla some sort of filler? It looks really good.

I just finished with cleaning the vulture of the big pieces of resin gates with a dremel. man what a resin dust, unbeliefable, but it's worth it. The vulture is a lovely model.

KoU

Deadleyheadley
01-07-2006, 13:25
Im still stuck on what army list to build my Elysains to D99 looks a good list but i never build my armys to list only to the models I like ,keep up the good work Kinghts :) ,I will keep look to see which list you diside to go with :)

KnightofUltramar
01-07-2006, 13:29
@deadley: I'm gonna use D-99, because I need less models for a normal size army then with the standard Elysians, but when I've got more Elysians, I'm also gonna use the normal list.

KoU

Deadleyheadley
01-07-2006, 13:31
@deadley: I'm gonna use D-99, because I need less models for a normal size army then with the standard Elysians, but when I've got more Elysians, I'm also gonna use the normal list.

KoU
Sounds like a plan :),I always make the mistake of buying the models then trying to make a list round them all and end up with a 3000 point army or some thing ,Then the last time I played nobody had 3000 points to fight me so i ended up not using half may army :(

KnightofUltramar
01-07-2006, 13:47
@deadley: I ordered this: 1 Hq with plasma gun, 2 troop squads, 2 sniper platoons (6 teams), 1 meltagun squad, 1 HB platoon (3 teams), a Vulture, 2 drop sentinels and a Cyclops. It will be enough for 750 points

Chaos and Evil
01-07-2006, 13:49
If you still want to use plasma pistols t...

Take the plasma pistol from either this sprue: http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99380101009&orignav=9


Or from the ForgeWorld Veterans Upgrade set: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Imperial%20Guard/Cadians/vets/sarge.jpg


Use the laspistol arm, just cut the laspistol off and put the plasma pistol on... I've done it several times now, it looks fine imho.

KnightofUltramar
01-07-2006, 13:58
@chaos and evil: I know, but I think wolf-tau needs arms to put plasma guns on, because he wants plasma guns for all his Vet Sergs. And to buy a command squad for every normal squad, just for the laspistol arm is a bit expensive, I think

KoU

Chaos and Evil
01-07-2006, 14:10
@deadley: I ordered this: 1 Hq with plasma gun, 2 troop squads, 2 sniper platoons (6 teams), 1 meltagun squad, 1 HB platoon (3 teams), a Vulture and a Cyclops. It will be enough for 750 points

I built you a sample D-99 list with that selection, here's what I got.


HQ:

Veteran Command HQ (Defensive-themed HQ):
1 Vet Senior Officer with carapace armour, bionics, plasma pistol and power fist.
1 Heavy Bolter Team (2 men)
1 Plasma Gunner
1 Medic
- 140pts


ELITES:

Veteran Sniper Formation (Sniping task, duh):
3 sniper teams (2 men)
- 90pts


Veteran Sniper Formation (Sniping task, duh):
3 sniper teams (2 men)
- 90pts


Veteran Special Weapons squad (Tank hunters):
3 meltagunners
3 lasgunners
-105pts


TROOPS:

Veteran Squad (Defensive task):
1 Heavy Bolter Team (2 men)
1 Grenade Launcher
1 Veteran
1 Veteran Sgt
- 73


Veteran Squad (Defensive task):
1 Heavy Bolter Team (2 men)
1 Grenade Launcher
1 Veteran
1 Veteran Sgt
- 73


Veteran Squad (Offensive task):
1 Veteran Sgt with Lasgun/krak grenade launcher.
3 Veterans with lasguns.
1 Veteran with lasgun and demolitions charge.
- 68


Veteran Squad (Offensive task):
1 Veteran Sgt with Lasgun/krak grenade launcher.
3 Veterans with lasguns.
1 Veteran with lasgun and demolitions charge.
- 68


FAST ATTACK:

Cyclops (Counter-attack task):
1 Cyclops with operator.
- 25pts



HEAVY SUPPORT:

Vulture Gunship (All-round configuration):
Vulture with Heavy bolter, twin-linked Lascannon and multiple-launch Rocket pods, Armoured Cockpit & Flare or Chaff Launcher.
- 220pts


Total 952 pts.


With a little more pimping (Perhaps some more wargear for the Veteran sgts, a vox-network, or more upgrades for the Vulture), it'd be easy to reach 1000pts.

To achieve the list above you need to find 1 extra infantry man with a laspistol to be the crewman for the Cyclops (It doesn't come with one).

Chaos and Evil
01-07-2006, 14:14
@chaos and evil: I know, but I think wolf-tau needs arms to put plasma guns on, because he wants plasma guns for all his Vet Sergs. And to buy a command squad for every normal squad, just for the laspistol arm is a bit expensive, I think

KoU

Ah.

A little conversion and the pointing arm (With the outstretched finger) will do well.

Alternatively, take the detail off of the grenade-holding hand, same result.

Wolf-Tau
01-07-2006, 14:32
@ KnightsofUltramar I should have mentioned ealier, I am using the regular IA3 Elysian list. I don't have IA4, but maybe soon.

@Chaos&Evil I love that Elysian article you have going. It is why I decided to join Waseer instead of just Lurking.


Hmm, "conversion of the pointing arm or the grenade-holding hand" . I will have to try that. I will be posting my army list here soon. I would hope you two could take a look at that. I am New to IG and have a idea of what to do but if I had to make a list with power armour or pulse rifles I could it, but Drop Troops are still new to me. But I do find it a great army to play, as I like Drop Pods with Power armour.

@Chaos&Evil Nice List there, I like it. Because I'm about to get a Vulture soon. (hits the print key)

WT

t-tauri
01-07-2006, 15:28
I find it hard putting together a force I can play. I would like to have Vet Sgts with Plasma pistols but there are no Plasma pistol arms. So I am having to covert the plasma pistols.

I wish there were more Pistol arms available. Are you guys having the same problem?
Plasma pistols in Elysian scale are available in the Cadian Hardened vets squad (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/cadvets.htm) and the Cadian squad upgrade (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/cadsqd.htm) packs. If you've know anyone who's bought any of them you may be able to buy/trade for their plasma pistols or try the trading forum. They're much better than using the huge marine versions which look like plasma guns in Elysian hands.

Chaos and Evil
01-07-2006, 15:39
They're much better than using the huge marine versions which look like plasma guns in Elysian hands.


I use those on my Elysians. :cries:

KnightofUltramar
01-07-2006, 16:00
I built you a sample D-99 list with that selection, here's what I got.


HQ:

Veteran Command HQ (Defensive-themed HQ):
1 Vet Senior Officer with carapace armour, bionics, plasma pistol and power fist.
1 Heavy Bolter Team (2 men)
1 Plasma Gunner
1 Medic
- 140pts


ELITES:

Veteran Sniper Formation (Sniping task, duh):
3 sniper teams (2 men)
- 90pts


Veteran Sniper Formation (Sniping task, duh):
3 sniper teams (2 men)
- 90pts


Veteran Special Weapons squad (Tank hunters):
3 meltagunners
3 lasgunners
-105pts


TROOPS:

Veteran Squad (Defensive task):
1 Heavy Bolter Team (2 men)
1 Grenade Launcher
1 Veteran
1 Veteran Sgt
- 73


Veteran Squad (Defensive task):
1 Heavy Bolter Team (2 men)
1 Grenade Launcher
1 Veteran
1 Veteran Sgt
- 73


Veteran Squad (Offensive task):
1 Veteran Sgt with Lasgun/krak grenade launcher.
3 Veterans with lasguns.
1 Veteran with lasgun and demolitions charge.
- 68


Veteran Squad (Offensive task):
1 Veteran Sgt with Lasgun/krak grenade launcher.
3 Veterans with lasguns.
1 Veteran with lasgun and demolitions charge.
- 68


FAST ATTACK:

Cyclops (Counter-attack task):
1 Cyclops with operator.
- 25pts



HEAVY SUPPORT:

Vulture Gunship (All-round configuration):
Vulture with Heavy bolter, twin-linked Lascannon and multiple-launch Rocket pods, Armoured Cockpit & Flare or Chaff Launcher.
- 220pts


Total 952 pts.


With a little more pimping (Perhaps some more wargear for the Veteran sgts, a vox-network, or more upgrades for the Vulture), it'd be easy to reach 1000pts.

To achieve the list above you need to find 1 extra infantry man with a laspistol to be the crewman for the Cyclops (It doesn't come with one).

@chaos and evil: Thanks, maybe some kind of scratchbuilt robot/servitor as operator?

KnightofUltramar
01-07-2006, 20:44
Just had a thougt, the list doesn't include my two dropsentinels. And here's a question to everyone who has build a vulture: which way should the fuselage fins go?

Thanks,

KoU

Chaos and Evil
01-07-2006, 20:48
Just had a thougt, the list doesn't include my two dropsentinels.

They'll take you easily over the 1000pts. You'd be able to drop a few options to make the army a little less expensive.


And here's a question to everyone who has build a vulture: which way should the fuselage fins go?

Thanks,

KoU

Small ridges go on the leading edge of the fins, not the rear edge.

KnightofUltramar
01-07-2006, 21:11
@chaos and evil: Thanks, here's another one: the rocket pod mounts, the thing that connects the rocket pod to the wing, has got a round strip, but it doesn't fit the round shape of the pod. Is this normal and should I bend the part or should it be somewhere else?

Thanks,

KoU

P.S.: Pics of the very WIP test model will be up tomorrow. I've been busy today and what I've done on my army is constructing the vulture, so I haven't picked up a paintbrush today, except for cleaning the resin dust of the vulture; sorry.

Metal Fingered Villain
01-07-2006, 22:34
I need to see pics! Man, I wish I had the scrill to pick up some forgeworld models, beent hinking about deathkorps, or even some tyranid monstrous creatures to paint.

KnightofUltramar
02-07-2006, 10:14
@Metal Fingered Villain: pics within 2 hours. First I need to clean my room, because it's full with little resin stuff from cleaning the models with a knife. When I'm done I'll make some pics.

KoU

Chaos and Evil
02-07-2006, 10:55
@chaos and evil: Thanks, here's another one: the rocket pod mounts, the thing that connects the rocket pod to the wing, has got a round strip, but it doesn't fit the round shape of the pod. Is this normal and should I bend the part or should it be somewhere else?


Can you take a picture of the part you're describing? I don't recognize it from your discription. Perhaps it is a piece of flash which needs removing.

KnightofUltramar
02-07-2006, 12:20
+++UPDATE+++

here are the pics of the test model and the Vulture:

testmodel front:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0505.jpg

back:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0506.jpg

side:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0507.jpg

and front with cyclops:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0508.jpg

KnightofUltramar
02-07-2006, 12:22
Vulture with side comparison:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0511.jpg

and again:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0510.jpg


@chaos and evil: I just discovered the mounts for the rocketpods are wrong, they're mounts for the hellstrike missiles :s . Time for another e-mail to FW.

C&C welcome,

KoU

Still learning
03-07-2006, 03:42
nice colours KoU, try highlighting the grey abit more and then putting a black wash on it. Also you might want to put a brown/black ink wash on all the metal. i understand it still WIP though.

KnightofUltramar
03-07-2006, 06:31
@still learning: I already gave them a wash with black ink over the metal and layered chainmail over it. I haven't decided which colour to choose as highlight: camo green with codex grey or catachan green with fortress grey

KoU

Still learning
03-07-2006, 09:48
camo with codex might be abit bright- your fatigues looks dark, the best highlighting i find is the one colour with say white added to it. You should probably do a few more layers gradually adding white before justing into highlighting so soon

KnightofUltramar
03-07-2006, 10:20
@still learning: I'm going with the catachan green with fortress grey as highlight. I won't be painting the squad soon I think, because I need some mixing pots and I haven't got them. I think I'll just assemble everything first and then paint it in one long run

Chaos and Evil
03-07-2006, 10:49
Mixing pots are easy... just use the plastic sections of Blisters, and mix up a little each time you need it.

KnightofUltramar
03-07-2006, 11:08
@chaos and evil: good idea, but I'm going for the ones from GW so I can mix up the same colour for the whole army instead of mixing the colour every time I'm going to paint something.

The vulture is almost assembled, I only need to do the weapons and the tail.

Still learning
03-07-2006, 13:54
KoU, one question- whats your whole spending amount your've put into the army.

KnightofUltramar
03-07-2006, 14:35
@still learning: 329,00 uk pounds (about 485,00) on:
1 IA4, 1 cyclops, 1 elysian command hq, 1 vulture gunship, 2 elysian drop troop squads, 2 elysian sniper squads, 1 meltagun squad, 2 drop sentinels and 1 heavy bolter squad.

I'm still waiting for some items which were out of stock or which they didn't send, but put on the receipt, meaning that it was in the package. I still need to get 2 replies from forgeworld about the missing meltagun squad and the wrong rocket pod mounts.

pompeyladbfp
03-07-2006, 16:09
phone them i had one wrong squad and they sent a whole new squad (got a free unit of vets which i will use as a 6 mn spec weapon squad with spare arms from other packs and spare body from flamer pack) and also sending me a spare sprue of lasguns as a few of my lasguns iron sights had not formed. they never answer there emails.

KnightofUltramar
03-07-2006, 16:36
Ok, I'll phone them tomorrow.

Chaos and Evil
03-07-2006, 16:50
They'll still be open right now...

spikyjames
03-07-2006, 16:51
for mixing pots why don't you wash out normal paint pots that are nearly done or finished?

james

KnightofUltramar
03-07-2006, 19:29
@chaos and evil: I read your post too late :s

@spikyjames: good idea, totally forgot that, thanks.

KoU

Metal Fingered Villain
04-07-2006, 03:03
What color are you going to paint the lenses? Hawk Turqouise highlighted up to almost pure white is a nice shade and looks like glass. Anyways, cant wait to see the rest of the model painted up.

KnightofUltramar
04-07-2006, 09:15
@metal fingered villian: I'm a bit further with painting the model, but haven't finished him. the visor is red, I painted that webbing graveyard earth and I painted the skin. I hope I'll be able to finish him today because it is getting very hot around: 34 degrees C

KoU

Still learning
04-07-2006, 09:55
yes pls post pics. How did you go with the visor? there hard huh?

KnightofUltramar
04-07-2006, 09:57
@still learning: just basecoat with a standard brush and highlights with a fine detail brush.

KnightofUltramar
04-07-2006, 13:38
+++UPDATE+++

Here are the pics I made of the almost finished testmodel and an assembled HB team.

Testmodel:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0514.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0515.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0516.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0517.jpg

KnightofUltramar
04-07-2006, 13:40
And the HB team:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0519.jpg

C&C welcome,

KoU

pompeyladbfp
04-07-2006, 18:35
nice stuff but one quick question, on your painted guy the shoulder pads look better placed upon the armour jointing i find (copied artwork) i might be wrong though....

anyway like colour scheme similiar to one of my styles. also you have convinced me to buy a vulture lol! overtime here i come :)

KnightofUltramar
04-07-2006, 19:29
@pompeyladbfp: I assembled them as shown. The shoulderpads would be to high on the armour, if you ask me. I'm glad you like the colourscheme and you've got some nice elysians too. I really recommend buying a vulture gunship, it's a very nice and cool model, but you should buy a blister of GS first, because there are big gaps in between the parts. Also check if you've got the right weaponmounts.

KoU

Deadleyheadley
04-07-2006, 21:10
Looking good ,the colours work well :) how did the Bolter team go together ?

cpl_hicks
04-07-2006, 22:23
dont know if you have noticed, but there is a gap between the bolter and the ammo feed :D

other than that nice work

Still learning
05-07-2006, 04:01
very nice colour scheme, i love it. He turned really well. I love those cream pouches. they provide a nice contrast to the model. I think abit more care on the fatigues next time and your right. I say this because i know you can't paint them better if you try, you quite capable.

KnightofUltramar
05-07-2006, 07:54
@deadley: At first I thought how should I assemble these guys and I found out it's best to begin with attaching the HB to the trigger arm. I used a pin between the trigger arm and the torso so I could position the shooter before glueing. Then I assembled the body and after that I glued the HB trigger arm + HB to the main body and that's about it. I'm gonna try out the wash after breakfast.

@cpl_hicks: I know about the gap, it will be fixed with some GS.

@still learning: The fatigues are better in real live then in the pics. As always the pics don't do the guys justice.

Ok, here's the plan for today:
- wash the vulture, squad bravo and sniper squads charlie and delta. (that's all the stuff that I've got for now:cries: )

done / need to be done

- spray squad alfa.
- spray 2nd coat on vulture cockpit interior.
- start assembling squad bravo.
- finish the testmodel.
- wash remaining stuff.

That's all for now. Pics will be up of the finished testmodel.

KoU

Mortare
05-07-2006, 10:41
Nice to see a regularly updated log, your making some good progress, though it does make me want to buy more figs!

Like the test model, the colour scheme works really well, could you post how you achieved it?

KnightofUltramar
05-07-2006, 11:56
@mortare: Thanks, the colourscheme is very simple:

fatigues:
1. basecoat catachan green
2. highlight 50/50 catachan green/camo green
3. highlight camo green

armour:
1. basecoat ?/? codex grey/catachan green
2. wash 2/1/1/2 water/brown ink/black ink/ varnish (thanks deadley :p )

pouches:
1. basecoat graveyard earth
2. wash 1/4 brown ink/water
3. highlight kommando kaki

That's about the basic work, metal, visor, gun and flesh can be done the way you like it.

KoU

Pfreck
05-07-2006, 15:50
Looks very nice man, is this for a whole 1500 points army?

Hoe kom je aan dat geld man? een krantenwijk? :D

KnightofUltramar
05-07-2006, 16:22
@pfreck: If I'm gonna pimp out the whole army, yes, I think so. And to your question in dutch: I've got a good paid job in the family. And just don't buy/ buy very little for about two months and ask for the for your pocket money for the remaining half of the year :p

KoU

Simto
05-07-2006, 16:34
Have you bought Solomon Lok too??

KnightofUltramar
05-07-2006, 16:44
@simto: nope, I thought about it, but I 330 pounds was about my budget. My next order (around november) will include him I think.

KoU

KnightofUltramar
06-07-2006, 08:16
I cleaned all ten legs for squad alpha yesterday and today I assemble their torso with weapons. I'll be off to school in an hour for my last 45 min this schoolyear, so no updates this morning, but in the afternoon pics of the testmodel will be up.

KoU

Still learning
06-07-2006, 10:23
the suspense is killing me................................................ ...........

KnightofUltramar
06-07-2006, 13:09
+++UPDATE+++

Finally, here are the pics of the finished testmodel.

Front:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0520.jpg

Side:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0521.jpg

Back:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0522.jpg

Other side:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0523.jpg

The only problem with the armour is that it's very glossy. I know matt varnish helps, but I can only get GW, no Testors around here. Just for now, I'll say that they take good care of their armour and polish it very well.

I'm going to start with cleaning the torsos for squad bravo now.

KoU

Mortare
06-07-2006, 13:15
Like it, looks nice. What you going to do for the base, the gravel there doesnt go with the model too well. Dont think that the shiny armour is too bad at all

KnightofUltramar
06-07-2006, 13:26
@mortare: I was thinking about some form of mud. Maybe a bit grassland. I'll look on the GW site as I remember an artical about basing which had some good ideas.

KoU

Edit: I'm thinking about this:
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/skirmish/terrain/texture/grass2.htm

or this:
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/skirmish/terrain/texture/grass.htm

Mortare
06-07-2006, 13:45
Not bad, and nice to see that not everyone has gone mad and decided that their models MUST be based in a ruined city!

pompeyladbfp
06-07-2006, 14:57
base 1 looks better, a god trick is to stick on basing stuff before spray undercoating, then drybrush up through green brown etc, pick out rocks in grays and static grass last, this is was used on my ultras and death guard see my home page

pompeyladbfp
06-07-2006, 15:01
also testors dull cote it is sold through a few online retailers www.horsingaround.com sells it....

http://www.horsingaround.com/acatalog/Paints___Sprays.html

KnightofUltramar
06-07-2006, 15:29
@mortare: I don't like city fight bases very much. I only used city fight bases for my Vostroyans.

@pompeyladbfp: Thanks for the tips. Also thanks for the link, but I live in Holland and they only ship in the UK :s .

KoU

KnightofUltramar
06-07-2006, 19:54
While I'm working on squad bravo I'm also making a "scenic base" for my cyclops; the cyclops driving over a barbed wire barricade. Need some opinions on this if it's a good idea.

KoU

Mortare
06-07-2006, 20:32
Yeah, have the wire springing up to the sides of it, and actually run it under the cyclops. Or have the wire behind with track marks crushed into it

KnightofUltramar
07-07-2006, 08:03
@mortare: I'll go for the driving over the barbed wire cyclops, because the scenic base is a 60mm base, so I've got limited room. But I haven't got a clue on how to make the barbed wire look like it's being driven over. I can't just make the wire stop where the cyclops is. I'll do a search on google and wikipedia for some inspiration.

Ok, bump. that's 2 whole comments on the testmodel:cries: :(

Brush your teeth
07-07-2006, 08:24
the test model looks good, i just think that it isnt reaching the standards of your ultramarines. the fatigues and pouches just dont look like theyve been done to your best. then again it is a test model so...

the colour schemes nice though

KnightofUltramar
07-07-2006, 08:38
@brush your teeth: Thanks, you're right about the standard. I've got no idea how to make them better; some more highlights and shading on the fatigues and webbing? If not, what should I do then?

KoU

Still learning
07-07-2006, 09:10
take a bit more time, i know i'm saying this but treasure painting those guys. No more highlights needed on the fatigues and stuff. It the transition from the base colour to the highlights that needs work. Your shading is excellent.

Plus try not to get bloches when washing.

other than that. ????? maybe some one with more experience can help. I'm only 15

KnightofUltramar
07-07-2006, 13:19
Has anybody tried making green darker with red and got the gw colour that's darker, like: camo gr+scab red = catachan green. I'm running out of cat. gr. and the first time I'll be going to gw is next week.

KoU

Still learning
07-07-2006, 14:07
try makeing cat green with black and camo? Greens a primary colour so its hard to make.

Brush your teeth
07-07-2006, 14:20
@brush your teeth: Thanks, you're right about the standard. I've got no idea how to make them better; some more highlights and shading on the fatigues and webbing? If not, what should I do then?

KoU

i think if you just blend the colours a bit more it will improve greatly.

small effort -> great result

KnightofUltramar
07-07-2006, 18:32
@brush your teeth: I think I'll make the first highlight a bit bigger so that it doesn't look like a single highlight. I now this isn't actually an excuse, but I've only painted space marines and wood elves seriously, and those models haven't got very detailed main areas and the elysians are as detailed as a bigger miniature, but then in a smaller scale, so I need to get used to them.

I have to say, the base of the HB team looks like a chocolate-mint cookie :p , but static grass will help to make it look a bit better. Pics tomorrow.

KoU

schoolcormorant
07-07-2006, 22:35
loving the Elysians, their armour looks a little bit just a little bit Tau, i mean shape wise, but IG beat Tau every time

pompeyladbfp
07-07-2006, 22:52
not in the taros campaign... lol!

yes they do take a slight change in painting style they are a lot more unforgiving if you have a reliance on inks, due to amount of detail and small size of the models, ive just finished a 5 man test squad and had to use some techniques i wouldnt normally use.

Wolf-Tau
08-07-2006, 08:03
@KoU Did you have a hard time with the Vulture? I have a Vulture and Valkyrie and the parts are rough, very rough. I might have to buy small dermel to help. What did you use to put them together besides glue and green stuff.

WT

KnightofUltramar
08-07-2006, 13:17
@wolf-tau: Not really, I removed the gates with a dremel. Other than that I only recommend getting alot of GS.

I've got good news: going to GW tomorrow so I'm gonna get my paint and start painting tomorrow.

I'm also thinking about giving the Vulture crew (grey)blue fatigues, just like the fatigues of the spaceshuttle crew. Any thoughts about this?

KoU

Mortare
08-07-2006, 14:54
I would go with a standard green jumpsuit, they are supposed to be low level aircraft. Though maybe a black 'special forces' crew theme would suit. Any photos of the bases yet?

KnightofUltramar
08-07-2006, 15:39
@mortare: Within the hour I'll post an update with the base, the new testmodel (other armour colour) and a WIP pic of the cockpit. I'll go for the green jumpsuit. then.

KoU

KnightofUltramar
08-07-2006, 16:47
+++UPDATE+++

Here is the new armour on the testmodel. It isn't very different from the old colour.

Front:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0548.jpg

Side:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0549.jpg

Back:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0550.jpg

Side:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0551.jpg

KnightofUltramar
08-07-2006, 16:50
Here is the WIP cockpit:
co pilot:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0543.jpg

pilot:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0544.jpg

and here is the HB base:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0545.jpg

and here it is with the team:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0546.jpg

Hope you like it,

KoU

pompeyladbfp
08-07-2006, 17:19
liking bases, match in well with D99 colour scheme but shouldnt look out of place on any board really.

test guy is looking much better, liking armouir and different colour jump pads. only thing id personally change would be webbing(pouches etc). especially as they are meant to be veteran soldiers they would noy use light webbing with jungle camo. maybe paint with scorched brown highlight with snakebite or something similiar, to give some ontrast and brightness, yet still look good....

Mortare
08-07-2006, 18:42
Looking very good there. Iliked the colour scheme before, still think it looks really good. Whilst i agree that veterans may not contrast their kit like that, i think it looks good on the figs, so hey. As for the base, it looks great- wasnt too sure what was going to appear, but like what you have done, nottoo much too it and it fits with the troops camo

KnightofUltramar
08-07-2006, 18:59
I'm happy you guys like it. Actually I like the webbing, but it is a bit weird that vets got contrasting webbing (pg 27 IA4). I think I'm going to make more webbing of GS for squad bravo, because 10 pounds for the kit with the pouches of FW is a bit expensive. I think I'll make 1 pouch and make a mould of gs and cast them with gs.

Have to go now,

KoU

Machinepriest
08-07-2006, 23:33
That testmodel looks ace!
I'm really liking the red visor.
Keep up the splendid work.

spikyjames
08-07-2006, 23:59
looking good, i'm looking forward to seeing a whole squad done.

james

Still learning
09-07-2006, 02:06
KoU, i really like the new test model. and i love the bases. maybe for future bases, buy some more folaige and stuff and load up with it on the base. A tip i know is smooth out some GS onto the base, and then putt sand around it and after you have sprayed it paint it like a swamp. if you don't understand i'll get a picture for you. Trust me it would look ace with your colour sceme.

looking good.

KnightofUltramar
09-07-2006, 09:53
Thanks for the comment. My objective for this week is to finish a whole squad (8 troopers and 1 HB team). and to finish the assembly of squad bravo. I'm also painting Capt. Sicarius as a side project. I'm gonna get him and a brush, paint and some other stuff.

KoU

Still learning
09-07-2006, 10:34
sir, i wish you the best of luck in your mega task.

KnightofUltramar
09-07-2006, 13:15
@still learning: Thanks, I'm gonna need all the support I can get.

KoU

KnightofUltramar
09-07-2006, 21:06
Almost finished with the cockpit. I painted the jumpsuits with a bigger 1st highlight and I think you guys will like the result. The only thing I need to do is paint the 2nd highlight on the black leather, finish the metal with a glaze and 2 highlight and then touch up some things. Pics will be on tomorrow.

Going to get back to watching the worldcup,

KoU

Mojaco
09-07-2006, 22:31
Worldcup sucked! Boo-hiss. No finale should end with penalties!

Remember: 1000 pt battle vs nids, as requested, this summer, GW The Hague :)
Or Traitor Guard if you want it to count for Medusa.

charlie_c67
10-07-2006, 01:00
But what a way to end your career! Headbutting someone for grabbing your man boob! At least that's what ITV here in the UK we're trying to claim....ahem.

On topic, any pics?

Still learning
10-07-2006, 02:37
lol, what was zidane doing, OMG last game. I think that italian guy said somthing rasicst to Zizu (zidane) i'd like to here whats going on? any way sorry for varing off topic.

KnightofUltramar
10-07-2006, 07:55
@mojaco: battle in about six weeks? I hope my command squad will arrive before then, otherwise I haven't got a command squad to lead my elysians :s . Traitor guard sounds cool too.

@charlie_c67: within 3 hours.

I loved Zidane's catachan kiss. I think that Italian guy just pissed him off and he thought screw this whole game and well, then used his head.

KoU

KnightofUltramar
10-07-2006, 10:28
+++UPDATE+++

here are the pics of the finished cockpit and most (little) guys of squad alpha.

Cockpit:

Left:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0555.jpg

Right:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0556.jpg

Pilot:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0559.jpg

Co-pilot/gunner:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0560.jpg

KnightofUltramar
10-07-2006, 10:28
And here are the little guys:

Front:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0557.jpg

Back:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0558.jpg

The guy on the right will need more touch up, because made a glaze in a mixing pot, just because I didn't want to mix the glaze every time. I failed, so I'm gonna mix it everytime I'm painting the armour.

c&c welcome,

KoU

Deadleyheadley
10-07-2006, 10:36
They pilots look cool and so do the rest keep up the good work :) looking forward to seeing the bolter teams

Still learning
10-07-2006, 11:25
wow, go KoU

schoolcormorant
10-07-2006, 18:55
Just one question to the lucky owner of the vulture/valkyrie,(KoU) can weapons be pinned to the Hardpoints, what i mean is, could you pin them to make them interchangeable, to make the 'plane' adaptive to different games?

KnightofUltramar
10-07-2006, 18:59
Thanks guys for the supporting words :p .

@deadley: Will be painting the 1st one tomorrow.

@schoolcormorant: Pinned no, magnetised yes. unless somebody knows a way to make the pins hold the weapons without using glue.

KoU

ghost hunter
10-07-2006, 19:37
off topic i have an Elysian force and was wondering what the best way to do black armour is. The colour sceem i'm planning on is Blcak armour blue jump gear

lee
10-07-2006, 19:48
:eek: looking good

KnightofUltramar
10-07-2006, 19:56
@ghost hunter: look here, maybe it will help: http://www.jrn-works.dk/tutorials/tut.php?tut=paintingBlack&lan=eng

@lee: thanks

KoU

KnightofUltramar
11-07-2006, 08:06
woaw, that's like 3 comments :s

Brush your teeth
11-07-2006, 10:01
its because were speachless :p

they do look pretty damn good, the pilots especially, im not to sure about the bases on the troopers though

KnightofUltramar
11-07-2006, 10:08
@brush your teeth: Then it's ok. Are the highlights better on the pilots than on the testmodel?

KoU

Brush your teeth
11-07-2006, 10:19
yeah, they look better on the crew, im assuming it was just a case of more blending?

KnightofUltramar
11-07-2006, 10:27
@brush your teeth: the 1st highlight is bigger and not almost the same size as the 2nd highlight on the test model.

KoU

P.S.: I'm bored and I don't want to paint :s . I want to convert some Elysians, but I've got no idea how to.

pompeyladbfp
11-07-2006, 14:59
try boiling hot water ;) bending arms and legs to change positions

KnightofUltramar
11-07-2006, 15:21
@pompeyladbfp: Thanks for the tip. I'll think about it. Do you know how to sculpt bags and pouches like the ones from FW?

KoU

P.S.: creative meltdown is over. I'm painting again and I'm thinking about some stuff for my snipers.

KnightofUltramar
11-07-2006, 18:38
Things I'm planning to do tomorrow:
paint the visors
finish the metallics
highlight the black
cover bases with static grass and drybrush grass with bleached bone
take pics
post pics


When that's done, I finishid my an official 5 men squad, but it will be a 10 men squad ofcourse.

KoU

pompeyladbfp
11-07-2006, 19:05
well done, im loving my elysians at the mo on a real paint a thon, finishing off first 10 man, and already done 6 man flamer/dc special weapon squad (with grav chutes attached, just landed?)

i have not tried the hot water to bend arms myself but been told it works.

pouches: no not to look as good as forgeworld ones, to be honest i may be a set of them and extra weapons to make my vets stand out. obvously for your guys there all vets, maybe try messing about with plastic guard assortments?

also dont worry too much: D99 during the anphelion project arent meant to have loads of kit with them as they where meant to be resupplied during campaign..... they obvously did not get supplied (or rescued), and thus the end of dragon company.. :(

bidding on a vulture and valkyrie on ebay too....

Pfreck
11-07-2006, 20:41
The first troopers and the pilots look great! only one thing, why the hell did you made the grind look like grass? I dunno but it doesn't looks cool imo :eyebrows:

KnightofUltramar
12-07-2006, 08:13
@pompeyladbfp: I'll go to GW The Hague. A redshirt there is really good with GS, I think he can help me. Did you read all the mission reports in IA4. I hope the mystery project will be revealed in the next IA.

@pfreck: Thanks. almost all the green will be covered with grass. When it's covered it looks quite nice.

Goals for today:
-paint webbing
-paint the visors
-finish the metal areas
-take pics
-post pics
-highlight the black



-cover bases with static grass and drybrush grass with bleached bone


KoU

KnightofUltramar
12-07-2006, 18:03
+++UPDATE+++

Here are the pics of the (almost) finished squad. The only thing to do now is add static grass, add a squad number + Vet droptrooper mark and add more highlights on the black, but those highlights could wait. Tomorrow I'm gonna start with the HB team and prime Capt. Sicarius, because I need to paint a space marine, just for the change (It will be a side project, so don't worry about me stopping with the Elysians).

Squad Alpha:

Group shot:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0568.jpg

Trooper:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0569.jpg

Vox:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0570.jpg

Grenade trooper:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0572.jpg

KnightofUltramar
12-07-2006, 18:04
Sergeant:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0573.jpg

Trooper:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0574.jpg

Do you guys have a suggestion for the squad number, as it isn't shown in IA4.

Here are the pics of the WIP HB team (which I hope to finish tomorrow) and the Cyclops driving through a razorwire fence.

HB:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0578.jpg

Cyclops:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0577.jpg

Suggestions, c&c welcome,

KoU

Wolf-Tau
12-07-2006, 18:38
@ KoU Wow, everything is looking great KoU. I would like to see pics on the flier as soon as it is done.

I am working on my Anti Tank Unit, HQ Command, and 1st Squad, right now. I am alternating working and fixing up my Vulture and Valkyrie as well.

I hope to see some good pic so I can get some more ideas.

WT

schoolcormorant
12-07-2006, 20:37
I love the Cyclops, you can fit it inside a chimera too so it rolls out and bang! it will look great tearing through pitiful defenses into enemy lines!
the great thing about your elysians is that the clothing colour matches the bases, when you look at some figures they might be wearing blue but in a brown or green environment.

Brush your teeth
12-07-2006, 21:16
they are looking very nice, are all the bases going to get flocked? because it makes them alot nicer

MIGHTYPanhead
12-07-2006, 22:49
KoU = teh rock. Love the colours on them, and the bases look ace!

for squad numbers, might I suggest the right shoulderpad? (the models right, left side on the picture) Right now it seems it's going to be balnk, so might as well...

Keep it up! :)

Still learning
13-07-2006, 07:03
the layering is much better

KnightofUltramar
13-07-2006, 08:18
Thanks guys,

Here are answers to some questions:

@wolf-tau: The flyer first needs alot of gap filling. I also dropped it and a wing and the fuselage fins broke off (It was very late in the evening and I was half sleeping), but I managed to attach them, so no big damage.

@brush your teeth: The bases will get static grass on most of the green painted areas.

@mightypanhead: The right shoulderpad is for the red veteran drop troop mark and the squad marking should be on the left pad as stated in IA4, but thanks for the suggestion.

today goal is to finish the first HB team. And here's a question: Should I customize the sniper rifles when I'll assemble them. Like shorter barrel, longer barrel.

KoU

P.S.: what's the cost of a cyclops, cause it's stated very unclear in IA4: 25 pts + cost of vehicle (the cyclops itself costs 25 pts. So is it 25 pts or 50 pts? I'll post a 500 pts list this morning.

pompeyladbfp
13-07-2006, 09:53
ie 25 points + cost of valkryie if you buy it one (dont) just deepstrike it next to enemy and boom!

KnightofUltramar
13-07-2006, 09:59
Received the last bits my order, but I'm gonna make phonecall, because haven't got all the stuff I've ordered.

@pompeyladbfp: Thanks, that will leave more room for some weapon upgrade.

I made the phonecall and I'm getting my missing meltagun squad and my rocketpod mounts.

KoU

schoolcormorant
13-07-2006, 13:35
can you arm the vulture with any of the weapons in any combo, or is it a case of patterns? you know like stipulated weapon combinations and points cost?

KnightofUltramar
13-07-2006, 13:39
you've got 4 hardpoints listed in 2 pairs and you also must buy the weapons in pairs; twinlinked lascannons, 2 rocketpods, 2 fueltanks, etc.

KoU

whitescar
13-07-2006, 19:19
dude, real nice stuff. I amy have missed it in the 20 or so pages, but what kind of job does a 14 year old have to be able to afford all this? Please tell me as I may be moving my family to the Netherlands.

You guys speak English right? ;-)

maraxis
13-07-2006, 19:53
Try floquil dullcote that works well too. Other than that, the models are looking great, that would be an impressive army on the field.

Just my two cents

Mojaco
13-07-2006, 20:40
You guys speak English right? ;-)
jes wie doe :)

KnightofUltramar
14-07-2006, 07:03
goodmorning (not so good for me)

Thanks for the replies. I've got bad news: my computer has had a meltdown and won't start :( . I'm going to a repair shop today, so this morning no updates. I almost finished the HB team yesterday.

KoU

Edit: more news: I'm not getting my pc back within the coming 2 weeks, but I'll update the thread every day.

KnightofUltramar
16-07-2006, 21:14
sorry for not updating, but it's very difficult with a PSP. the best I can do, is paint and post a big update when my pc is back.

whitescar: I'd stay in the states. If my brother wasn't handicapt, we'd be livin' in there cause it's way better in the US.

KoU

KnightofUltramar
25-07-2006, 19:14
Howdy folks<

Finally got my computer back. Spiders were livin' in it and that was the big problem. I'll post pics tomorrow. First main objective is to finish the Vulture before 12 August and enter it in a open paint contest at GW The Hague. Filled half of the gaps today and gonna finish it tomorrow. Also got the right rocketpod mounts finally.

That's all,

KoU

Tooooon
25-07-2006, 21:38
How rich ARE you? O.o I couldnt afford the FW rulebook for Elysians without buying anything for another month, let alone an entire army from FW lol

~Dave

Mortare
25-07-2006, 21:49
Looking forward to seeing the update, been a while, hope you have been productive!

KnightofUltramar
26-07-2006, 17:43
+++UPDATE+++

Good evening people,

14 pics today:

Finished so far (not very much, but I've decided to assemble most things first and paint in a long run):

HB team:

Front:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0603.jpg

Top:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0604.jpg

Groupshot:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0605.jpg

KnightofUltramar
26-07-2006, 17:45
WIP stuff:

HB teams:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0606.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0607.jpg

Guardsmen:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0608.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0616.jpg

More on the next page.

KnightofUltramar
26-07-2006, 17:48
Sniper teams:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0609.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0610.jpg

Here's the team I like the most:

Front:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0611.jpg

Right:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0612.jpg

KnightofUltramar
26-07-2006, 18:01
Back:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0613.jpg

Left:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0614.jpg

Cyclops:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0615.jpg

I'm almost finished with the gap filling on the Vulture, but because of the very hot weather I'm working following a tropical timescheme. I only need to fill the hard parts on the top side of the wings, which are the raised parts. Can I use White Spirit to clean some of the resin, because the last models I received (hq and meltagun squad).

As I mentioned yesterday, the Vulture will be entered in a painting contest, so it needs to be ready within 2 weeks.

Suggestions, C&C welcome,

KoU

Brush your teeth
26-07-2006, 18:28
very nice. i love the sniper team on the sentenel wreck, it reminds me of the scene with the rangers in black hawk down.

whats with the weird patches at their feet though?

KnightofUltramar
26-07-2006, 18:30
@brush your teeth: Thanks. The patches are pieces of scotch tape to cover up mis drilled holes.

If you guys want more close ups, just say it and I'll make them.

KoU

asmodai_dark86
26-07-2006, 19:00
The position on some of the arms doesnt look right. Yes there hiding, but to me it doesnt seem right to have the lasguns at those angles

pompeyladbfp
26-07-2006, 19:38
good work, the painted squad looks good, pouches turned out better. yes very black hawk down with destoyed sent.. good work! sniper teams look a good set (never got one for my army) the arm with scope is cool....

so how much of a bugger are the big kits, i have a valkyrie inbound....

t-tauri
26-07-2006, 21:36
I like the idea of the sentinel wreck, but it doesn't look like a wrecked vehicle, more like a few panels propped up in front of the snipers. It needs to look less as if it's two halves of a kit, more like a cockpit in which an explosive has gone off.

KnightofUltramar
27-07-2006, 09:58
Thanks for the comments guys. I'm glad you like the sentinel wreck. I'm gonna buy a normal sentinel just for the wreckage. I know some arm positions look weird, but there are limited options and this is the best I could make of it. Gonna finish the gapfilling on the vulture today (@pompeyladbfp: big flyers are a big pain in the ass with the assembly, because there are huge gaps to fill and some are even more difficult, because of the differences in height in 3/8 inch.

KoU

Still learning
27-07-2006, 11:09
your bases need more foliage, thats all i can say. looking good,

D3N14M
27-07-2006, 11:18
Wow, all I can say it's that you have a good view for choosing bases! Keep going that way!

schoolcormorant
27-07-2006, 20:35
Although as t-tauri said the sentinel looks quite 'empty' you could work some greenstuff in between the sentinel and the base as if it had been there for a long time, that way it would look ransacked and the control systems etc had gone astray in a greenskin or chem dog fashion...

Deadleyheadley
27-07-2006, 20:48
Looking good :) Hows the Vulture coming on ?

psyberlord
27-07-2006, 22:06
OK... I just read through this from begining to end, for the first time... I want to see this danged old vulture... when are the next pics comming?

KnightofUltramar
28-07-2006, 09:12
I'll post pics of the vulture this afternoon. Nothing special, just with the gaps filled.

KoU

Edit: My grandfolks came by unexpected and stayed for dinner, so I didn't have the time to take pics, but don't worry, it isn't finished, because I removed some GS from the gaps that woren't filled correctly, so they need to be refilled. Pics tomorrow, I promise.

dave is the best
29-07-2006, 16:41
wheres the pics

KnightofUltramar
29-07-2006, 19:22
I'm sorry, but I had a heatstroke and I was in bed all day. I'm going to bed again now. I'll post the pics after 12.00 am tomorrow.

My apoligies,

KoU

dave is the best
29-07-2006, 19:39
hope you get better

schoolcormorant
29-07-2006, 21:47
hope you get better

heatstroke sucks

KnightofUltramar
30-07-2006, 10:41
Thanks guys, I had a good night sleep and some aspirines and I'm feeling OK again. I'm make eat something and after that I'll make pics and post them.

KoU

KnightofUltramar
30-07-2006, 11:43
Here are pics of the almost filled gaps:

Right wing:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0617.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0621.jpg

Left wing:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0619.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/KnightofUltramar/elysians/IMG_0622.jpg

As you can see, there are some gaps that need to be filled, but those gaps weren't filled good and I'll fill them today. I'll give the vulture another good wash with warm water and soap, before I'll prime it tomorrow.

I've got less then 2 weeks to finish it, but I think I'll get it finished in time.

KoU

P.S.: If anyone wants to see other pics, just ask me and I'll take pics.

schoolcormorant
30-07-2006, 12:09
@KoU - The filler work looks really neat, i bet there is more satisfaction in completing a project that took that amount of work than sticking a rhino together and spraying it up, or something like that.

dave is the best
30-07-2006, 14:19
verry nice

KnightofUltramar
30-07-2006, 17:00
Thanks guys, I sometimes wish this was a rhino, 'cause they don't have huge gaps to fill. I learned a few things about the assembly of big FW models. Like first clean the model and remove moldlines/flash before assembly. I hope I'll get at least one valkyrie before end '06 (my birthday in november, sinterklaas and christmas).

I'm converting some marines now, for a DW kill team (in which WD UK WD are the rules for them?). I think it will look good with the D99 fluff about them being nid hunters. Also thinking of getting GK's as allies for a huge army (like 4000 points), but I'm a bit low on money ( kinda weird don't you think :p ). This big army will be made in the next 2 to 3 years. Hope this idea will work.

KoU

dave is the best
30-07-2006, 17:36
I'm converting some marines now, for a DW kill team (in which WD UK WD are the rules for them?).

they are in wd 306

how much did this all cost

KnightofUltramar
30-07-2006, 18:10
487 euros and ?? cents. I think this amount of money will be tripled for the Elysians alone, maybe even more if I decide to mount the whole army in Valkyries. Thanks for the WD number.

KoU

schoolcormorant
30-07-2006, 20:15
If you decide to mount the whole army in valkyries i will have two things to say 1. i'm not sure it's ethical to be reading the blog of an insane man
2. this will cost not just money, but an extensive amount of points and your social life will simply die out, and when you eventually do go out again, all the people you used to know will say 'who the hell is that!!!!!'

it would be cool though, daunting to your opponent especially
and another thing, if you do use GK's as allies don't lose sight of the fact that it's an elysian army and not a grey kbight army.

Good luck!

KnightofUltramar
31-07-2006, 08:20
@schoolcormorant: This idea isn't as mad as my first one: build the whole D99 regiment listed in IA4 with 4 vultures, 22 valkyries, 12 sentinels, 6 sentry guns and 6 cyclopses and 320 soldiers. This idea was a bit to much..... for now. I don't have a social live now so that won't be a problem :P . As for the big army I think it wil be 2000 pts elysians, 1500 pts GK's and 500 pts deathwatch.

I'm gonna spray the vulture end of the morning and start painting it tomorrow.

KoU

dave is the best
31-07-2006, 08:53
what coulers are you going to paint it

KnightofUltramar
31-07-2006, 10:29
I'm gonna paint it like the pics in IA4: Cat. green with a brown and black camo pattern.

KoU

schoolcormorant
31-07-2006, 11:52
22 valkyries - that's just morbidly obese! (family guy ref.)
i love the flyers though, airborne chimeras's

KnightofUltramar
31-07-2006, 13:37
Just noticed on the calendre that I've got 12 days before the painting contest WHOOPS. Almost finished with priming, it needs 2 more layers and then it is totally black.

KoU

dave is the best
31-07-2006, 14:04
in that case you better get painting

pompeyladbfp
31-07-2006, 14:44
well my valk turned up today... em a lot of work... :(

KnightofUltramar
31-07-2006, 15:13
Good luck. The result's worth the effort (I hope). I suggest making a special tool of plasticard with a square spatula, because the one on the GW sculpting tool won't do the job of smoothing the GS as good as the home made one.

KoU

Deadleyheadley
31-07-2006, 16:12
Good luck. The result's worth the effort (I hope). I suggest making a special tool of plasticard with a square spatula, because the one on the GW sculpting tool won't do the job of smoothing the GS as good as the home made one.

KoU
Cheers for then info about the spatula ,Is it primed yet :D

KnightofUltramar
31-07-2006, 16:21
Yes, I sprayed the last layer on half an hour ago. I must say that you may get another spray can, because it takes quite a bit of primer to fully cover a whole flyer. My can is empty now, but I'm going to GW The Hague Wednesday, so I'll pick up a new can there. I'll post some pics of the primed vulture and my home made tool tomorrow.

KoU

Deadleyheadley
31-07-2006, 16:34
Yes, I sprayed the last layer on half an hour ago. I must say that you may get another spray can, because it takes quite a bit of primer to fully cover a whole flyer. My can is empty now, but I'm going to GW The Hague Wednesday, so I'll pick up a new can there. I'll post some pics of the primed vulture and my home made tool tomorrow.

KoU
Cool looking forward to seing the pictures :D

pompeyladbfp
31-07-2006, 17:24
use car body spray sticks to resin better

KnightofUltramar
31-07-2006, 17:37
I haven't got any problems with GW primer. It just takes a few layers to cover the whole flyer.

KoU

psyberlord
31-07-2006, 18:21
I stopped using spray primer a couple of years ago... I like thinned black paint and a tank brush... it seems to come out smoother for me...

But I may just be insane...

I have painted several figs, and tanks like this...

looking forward to more pics...

great job...keep it up...