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Bronka
29-06-2006, 18:25
Hello!

I've started work on a Dark Eldar army, which should eventually be chock-full of tasty conversions. So far I'm only half way through a Haemonculus, so I thought I'd see what people think of my (hopefully!) unique white/blue/grey colour scheme. After all, there's no real reason that the Dark Eldar have to have Dark Armour! I see them as a beautiful, tragic race, and that will be reflected in the colours. Anyway, tell me what you think:

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5567/haemonculus0zu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Try to ignore the brown loincloth! It's a mistake, it looks horrible - I'm changing it! (Hiding it with your little finger works a treat!)

Melchiah
29-06-2006, 18:55
Paint job looks good. Defenitly dont see alot of lightly coloured DE

Mortare
29-06-2006, 20:03
Nice scheme, good to see some original thinking. Now go change that loin-cloth ;)

Bronka
30-06-2006, 00:52
Thanks for the comments!

On the subject of conversions - do you think I can get away with using Wood Elf Wardancers as Wyches if I just sculpt a few spikes on them? The Wych models are horrendous, and the Wardancers are much closer to how I'd like them to look. In an ideal world! Obviously they'd be tied into the rest of the army by the paint scheme.

What do you think?

Easy E
30-06-2006, 04:14
Wardancers should not ba a problem. Maybe even mix in a few dark Eldar helmets and some pistols and your good to go. I agree that it mostly depends on your paint scheme to make it fit the army.

Edit: it's always nice to see DE models.

Serpent
30-06-2006, 05:18
I agree with Easy E. A few well-made conversions with plastic pistols and you're good to go. Wardancers woul be excellent for it. If you featured a few more Wood Elf things in your army (like replace the awful DE Warrior heads with WE heads for instance), it would tie them in even more. Those leather masks are there for a reason! ;)

The loincloth could easily be painted red over the brown, or you could highlight it all the way up to white. :)

Serpent

Rokkitz
30-06-2006, 08:45
I like it! It is quite unique.

I agree with your thoughts on the colour choice, but I would have liked some more contrast, or stronger blacklining. Something that helps set the fields of colour apart.

I think your idea on using wardancers would work great. Some slight conversions to make them more evil looking might be in place as you mentioned, spikes and blades would do the thing.

I am looking forward to see what you can do with the regular warriors and the vehicles.

Good luck with your project.

Bronka
15-07-2006, 14:11
Here's a concept for the warriors I've knocked together:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5075/darkeldar3hf7.png

Wood Elf legs, Dark Eldar torsos and Dark Elf heads. That configuration isn't set in stone though, and I'll be using any combination of those 3 kits that looks good. Now I just have to wait for some good deals on ebay!

As for the Haemonculus, he's coming along nicely. Might have some new pics later.

HPD_Andy
15-07-2006, 21:37
Very subtle use of color, I like it.

HiredSword.
15-07-2006, 23:38
hmm, not too keen on that, why not try wood elf and eldar mix? Might not be spikey but i think that would suit for colour scheme. If you used the hooded heads they may still look evil.

Bronka
16-07-2006, 00:12
why not try wood elf and eldar mix?

Cos Dark Eldar bits is what I got! :p

Here's a better pic of the Haemonculus, with some progress too.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3650/haemonculus1wj1.jpg

unwanted
20-07-2006, 14:20
I really like that look, just throw in a few half-masks and the Spiky Dark Eldar helmets for squad-leaders and such.

Bronka
03-08-2006, 15:30
My first 4 warriors are now assembled and I think they look hot! Unfortunately, my first forray into the world of spray-undercaoting did NOT go well, and the coat came out fuzzy and horrible. So some stripping and a respray is definitely in order.

Sybarite (the only one in the squad with a Dark Eldar head):

http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/9489/deldar1kp0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Warrior 1:

http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/8601/deldar2jo7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Warrior 2 (mmm...female!):

http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/1939/deldar3fg2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Warrior 3:

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/6772/deldar4jk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Bronka
03-08-2006, 15:31
And a small update to my Haemonculus, showing off his lovely scenic base:

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/6383/deldar5th5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And finally, a WIP concept for my Archon - any suggestions welcome:

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/9283/archonzj0.png (http://imageshack.us)

Ixe
03-08-2006, 19:57
What's on the sybarite's shoulders? Snow? On the unpainted model it looks a lot like something shat on him >.> I would expect that a spattering of snowflakes on the shoulderpads would be a little better than piling snow onto him. The only way he'd get that much snow accumulated is if he was just standing there for a long time :p

That is a very good archon btw... How do you make your WIP photos, are you using the actual parts or putting the parts together with photoshop from pictures or what?

Bronka
03-08-2006, 20:01
Hahaha! :D

Erm, no. They're actually skulls - the one on the right is from the Dark Elf sprue (with chain removed) and the one on the right is some wierd beastie from the Wood Elf sprue. I hollowed them out a bit and glued them there because I felt he didn't have enough majesty (unlike Trogdor).

But I can see how you could think it's snow.

As for the concept pictures, I just copy-paste the bits from the GW online store, cut off the bits I don't want and put them together. Some need to be resized slightly, as the photos are not all the same scale. And I just use a basic paint package. It's great as a quick and easy way to get an idea of how a conversion will look.

Serpent
03-08-2006, 20:11
The archon looks very nice. And for God's sake stay off the white primer. Black is better in every aspect.

Weren't you going to do this based on Woodies? If so, then why are there numerous Dark Elf pieces in the models?

Serpent

primarch16
03-08-2006, 20:35
This is inspiring stuff, I'd like to see these guys painted.

Ixe
03-08-2006, 20:47
lol, without painting it just looks like he has two white blobs on his shoulders at first, but I can see that they're skulls now. The crappy texture on the spray might be due to humidity if you live where it's humid in the summer. I have had vastly improved results on my spray by doing it indoors, but lay down lots of newspaper, get some ventilation going, and hold your breath or wear a mask.

Bronka
03-08-2006, 21:11
Weren't you going to do this based on Woodies? If so, then why are there numerous Dark Elf pieces in the models?

I was originally planning to have all wood elf legs and all dark elf heads. Then when I started playing around with the various bits I decided it would look way better with various combinations of everything. It's also more in keeping with the idea of a pirate force, rather than an organised army.

Tomorrow I'll post up pictures of the other 4 warriors in the squad, and in a few days I should have some painting WIPs.

Cheers for the comments.

Calgar
03-08-2006, 21:13
This might be the first, and only, Dark Eldar army iv seen thats actually cool. Keep up the good work.
What you have there is realy something, trust me.:)

Easy E
03-08-2006, 21:52
Warrior #3 is very cool looking. Warrior 1 is also good, except for his pose. I think it would be cooler with just a standard shooting pose. The Sybarite also looks nice and unique.

I look forward to seeing more of your warriors.

Bronka
04-08-2006, 00:32
Here's a question for anyone who's interested:

I'm going to be doing some Scourges soon - should I mount them on a plain flying base (totally transparent) or a scenic base with some wire or something sticking out of it to suspend them in the air? Which do you think would look better?

I'm leaning towards plain flying bases myself, but I'm keen to know what others think.

The Dragon Reborn
04-08-2006, 01:01
well, i would go with a mix of the two maybe, have the squad taking off the front few already up in the air, and the back few just taking off. I think that would be pretty sweet.

but some advice other than that, dont use scourges they are way over priced. you are better off with lots of warriors or ravagers for heavy support

but it would be cool to see them none the less

Bronka
04-08-2006, 01:09
but some advice other than that, dont use scourges they are way over priced. you are better off with lots of warriors or ravagers for heavy support

I've come to the conclusion that if I go for what wins games, rather than what looks cool, then I'll just end up with an army of warriors. And seeing as I'm more of a painter/modeller than a player, that would bore me to tears.

I've got a good idea (well, I think it's good!) for the scourges, so it's on!

But thanks for the advice.

Ixe
04-08-2006, 03:46
Actually if you went for what won games, you'd be playing a wych cult :P

IIRC scourges come mostly standing on regular slotta bases since they're rather heavy and awkward... They don't have very good flying poses for the most part, but I think if you use thick enough wire it would work a lot better, you could anchor them in multiple places so they don't fall down every time you move them.

And for the love of jebus, give them 4 splinter cannons, dark lances on scourges is the biggest joke ever. Splinter cannon scourges aren't really the smartest thing ever because they attract a lot of fire and can't stand up to it. But then again, they're attracting fire away from scarier targets is the hope.

Bronka
05-08-2006, 01:49
OK, I know I said I'd post pictures of the other warriors tonight, but I've had a busy day with various other elements of the force.

Firstly, my raider arrived today - I've sprayed and assembled it, and I've started assembling the gunner and pilot to reflect the look of the warriors. Not much of any great interest there, so I haven't bothered taking any pictures yet.

I've also stripped and resprayed the warriors I posted yesterday. I used brake fluid and it worked a treat. I resprayed them indoors, and it made all the difference - no more fuzziness! I'll start painting them tomorrow, but since I'm working I doubt I'll get much done. Having said that, if anyone wants to see some WIP shots of whatever I've managed to achieve by 6PM tomorrow, I'll be happy to oblige! I'll definitely post some pics on sunday, by which time I should have a fair bit done.

The force is slowly coming together, and I'm really grateful for the interest you've all shown! :)

Easy E
08-08-2006, 05:52
WIP Pics! This I command!

Ixe
08-08-2006, 06:39
Advice: DO NOT USE BRAKE FLUID! It is carcinogenic and toxic and awful, so if you value your lungs don't use it without a fume hood or some excellent breathing protection... Simple Green is your best bet, it cleans paint very nicely after a 24 hour soak, hardly smells, and won't even irritate your skin if it gets on your hands.

Bronka
08-08-2006, 12:25
OK, here's an update - unfortunately I'm a pretty slow painter, so it's only a small one.

I'm into painting the 4 warriors I showed earlier - their armour has been given a basecoat of Space Wolf Grey, followed by a wash with Shadow Grey, and now I'm gradually building it up to a nice, flat white on the raised areas. It's taking forever! Still, I'm not complaining when the white comes out as good as this:

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9396/deldar1point1lb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/1629/deldar1point1sidenr9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I got bored with just seeing 4 minis gradually get whiter, so I've given my Sybarite some extra attention. I think his armour could do with one more coat of white. And I need to highlight the blue cloth up to white. Then I'll do the metal areas, followed by skin, skulls, belts, shoes and his various other bits and bobs.

I think I'm going to have to do one model at a time, otherwise I'm going to go nuts. Painting in batches doesn't speed me up at all, it just puts me off because I don't get to see a lovely finished mini for ages!

Hoping to have the Sybarite largely finished by tonight - and I'll find something worth updating with later if it kills me!

Bronka
12-08-2006, 16:12
Decided to convert a banner guy:

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9180/deldarbanner1wf2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Since I still wanted him to be WYSIWYG, his splinter rifle is built into the banner.

Also done a teensy bit more work on the Sybarite, but work commitments have meant I haven't had much painting time.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9047/deldar1point2if9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And now I have to rush of to work again! Bugger!

Bronka
17-08-2006, 16:19
The first of 5 Scourges:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1365/scourge1vs4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Apparently they're rubbish in the game, but I had the idea to use Vespid wings a while ago and I've been determined to do it ever since.

cerealkiller195
17-08-2006, 19:16
the wings i admit are quite good. i think they are considered bad because most everything that has a jump pack/wings tends to be assualt based. But rather in the DE book scourges carry heavy weapons/assualt weapons in masse. So it's somewhat contradictory on their roll.

Ixe
18-08-2006, 04:52
Scourges aren't bad per se. Well, with dark lances they are very bad, but with splinter cannons they at least have a purpose. For their points, however, they're much too vulnerable to be worth it. Warriors are a much better investment, hands down.

Easy E
18-08-2006, 23:53
Sometimes it's not about what wins games... sometimes it's about what looks cool.

That scourge looks cool.

sodapopinski
05-09-2006, 16:25
Great work, the best DE ive seen in a while, cant wait to see more pictures!
btw, do you have other armies that have been done with the same "love"? id want to see them too!