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Codsticker
03-07-2006, 21:31
Since I've finished my last little project (My Warseer Marine) I now need a new one and a thread to go along with it to help keep me motivated. I have settled on my Armoured Column. This one will take even longer- hard to believe I know: the Warseer marine took about 5 weeks and it was one simple mini!

So this is the list I'm aiming for:
HQ:
Tank Commander: with Vanquisher, hull-mounted lascannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons.

ELITES:
Tank Ace: with Vanquisher with hull-mounted lascannon

TROOPS:
Leman Russ: Turret-mounted Battle Cannon, hull-mounted Lascannon and Heavy Bolter sponsons.
Leman Russ: turret mounted Battle Cannon, hull-mounted Lascannon and Heavy Bolter sponsons.
Leman Russ Conqueror: hull-mounted heavy bolter and heavy bolter sponsons.
Leman Russ Conqueror: hull-mounted heavy bolter and heavy bolter sponsons.

FAST ATTACK:
Helhound: Inferno Cannon and hull-mounted heavy bolter.
HEAVY SUPPORT:
Leman Russ Demolisher: with hull-mounted Heavy Bolter and Plasma Cannon side sponsons.
Griffon: heavy mortar and hull-mounted heavy bolter.
Basilisk: Earthshaker cannon and hull-mounted heavy bolter.

I also have on hand a half a dozen Chimeras so that I may add Stormtroopers, Armoured Fist squads or a Tech Priest if need be.
Most of the vehicles are awaiting paint with the exception of hulls for the Conquerors and one of the Vanquishers which aren't even purchased yet (:eek: ).

The vehicle that needs the most work at this stage is the Helhound so I will begin with that and then move on to finish painting some of the vehicles that I have already started.

Codsticker
10-07-2006, 20:03
I have fixed up the Helhound with Plastruct's excellent tread plate, using it to cover up the unwanted and unused lasgun ports. Inspired by a picture of a Panzer with a folding arial I manufactured one for the Helhound which I can use as the Immproved Comms upgrade. It is unobtrusive enough that, in the case I don't have the points, I can just not take the Immproved Comms upgrade and it would probably not confuse anyone.

I also have many of the tanks primed and some pre-shading done. Hopefully I will be able to post some pics later.

EDIT: :confused: Upload error- for some reason my pictures are not loading. I will try again later.

Unique1
10-07-2006, 20:11
WHY! conquerors SUCK! S-U-C-K use exterminators!

The list looks O-K but I'd put your commander in an exterminator, to save points, and use his BS4 well. Then with the 40 or so points you get, Ditch the bassie, get another griffon, ditch the plasma sponsons on the demolisher, and you've got 100pts to spend on some stormtroopers.

cookiescrumble
10-07-2006, 20:39
Be nice to follow as i am also builing an armoured company. Check my thread (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39882) out and feel free to use ideas.

Yodhrin
10-07-2006, 21:26
WHY! conquerors SUCK! S-U-C-K use exterminators!

The list looks O-K but I'd put your commander in an exterminator, to save points, and use his BS4 well. Then with the 40 or so points you get, Ditch the bassie, get another griffon, ditch the plasma sponsons on the demolisher, and you've got 100pts to spend on some stormtroopers.

Actually, they average out as almost exactly the same, when someone did the calculations the Exterminator beat the Conqueror by some tiny decimal of a percent. Seeing as the Conqueror also looks infinitely cooler than the Exterminator, the Conqueror wins.

Codsticker
10-07-2006, 22:59
Here are the elusive helhound pics.

I chose the Conquerors because the FW turrets look great; the Exterminator is probably a better choice, especially in the hands of a Tank Commander or Tank Ace.

MIGHTYPanhead
10-07-2006, 23:16
Seeing as the Conqueror also looks infinitely cooler than the Exterminator, the Conqueror wins.

indeed, both my aces use 'em. only have one exterminator, but that's the commander

Can't wait to see this shape up!

Easy E
10-07-2006, 23:28
Nice work extending the barrel on the Inferno Cannon.

Is this Hellhound going to be more like the Forgeworld version or the traditional GW one? The covering you placed on the rear of the chimera leads me to believe it will be the GW one. However, you may have some trick up your sleeve like a trailer, or something.

Getz
10-07-2006, 23:54
I like the Improved Comms Arial - very nicely done. I shall be watching this with great interest...

Codsticker
11-07-2006, 01:04
Is this Hellhound going to be more like the Forgeworld version or the traditional GW one? The covering you placed on the rear of the chimera leads me to believe it will be the GW one. However, you may have some trick up your sleeve like a trailer, or something.
If you are talking about the FW Helhounds with the big tank where the transport compartment usually is then you are correct- it will be more like the GW Helhound only the tanks are "inside" the hull. I was entertaining the idea of making a trailer (wasn't it the Crocodile that towed a tank mounted on a trailer along behind it?) however I'll probably do one up after I've finished the Helhound itself.

cookiescrumble
11-07-2006, 12:29
Theres an easy way to solve the problem of Conquerors or Exterminators..


...use both!!!

Hellhound looks good btw, i've just finished building the FW one which was a real joy.

KayvaanShrike
11-07-2006, 14:06
Looking awesome Codsticker, love the Hellhound, like the grip plate on the back, and the ariel, they look awesome. Any pics of the colour scheme and the other tanks?

Codsticker
11-07-2006, 16:33
The colour scheme will be similar (although not identical) to my regular IG army. The Chimera below is an example. With my AC vehicles though I'm going about it a little different. The Chimera and other tanks were done with the green and desert yellow airbrushed over a grey primer, then a light drybrushing followed by two or three washes. With this batch of vehicles I'll be preshading first, then highlighting the individual panels, followed by the camo sheme which will inturn be highlighted. Then I'll finish off with a light drybrush and a couple of washes.

Codsticker
12-07-2006, 06:21
Here are some pics of the heavy support choices. The Basilisk and the Griffon were both bought off eBay and had to have a lttle stripping done. The metal bits on the Griffon came out nicely but the plastic didn't fare so well. I never really cared for the giant gun shield on the basilisk so I scrapped it. My son was playing with the Basilisk and the railing on the platform dissapeared so I had replace it and decided to fabricate something a little more solid. Inspired by pics of WW2 guns I think that once it is painted I will put together some camo netting for it and I'll make a crew. The Griffon will also require a crew and I have a bunch of Cadian, Catachan and Empire bits to come up with something.

The Demolisher has started to recieve paint. After undercoating grey I have started to pre-shade with Tamiya's Field Blue (which is actually a dark, slightly blue, shade of grey). The colour is actually a little dark for pre-shading as you can see but I don't mind- at this point it creates a nice contrast. Next up is highlighting of each panel with Tamiya's J.N. Grey.

cookiescrumble
12-07-2006, 08:25
Looking good, looking forward to more updates.

Unique1
12-07-2006, 11:35
I like the bassie ALOT, looks really nice.

Codsticker
21-08-2006, 05:25
Ahh..many moons have passed but I've finally accomplished something. Here I have the three Heavy Support choices at the first camo pattern stage. They have all been preshaded and I've applied a coat of Tamiya's NAtO Green in a broad pattern. With the exception of the two Conqueror's, all the other vehicles are assembled and primed. Once started, the Airbrushing goes quite quickly. I anticipate having to re-define the pre-shading once the desert yellow has been applied as the NATO Green is quite opaque.

Codsticker
22-08-2006, 03:14
More tanks with NATO Green; a Leman Russ, two Chimeras and the Helhound.

Red Scorpion
22-08-2006, 14:47
Looking good!
Hope we're gona see lots of detail on the tanks, crew graffiti, kill markings, names, that kind of stuff:)
Chris

Codsticker
22-08-2006, 16:40
I'm not sure what I'm going to do for markings buy I plan on getting some decal paper and printing off my own ID numbers.

I have highlighted the NATO Green with a mix of about 60% NATO Green and 40% GW's Goblin Green. It's pretty subtle but more noticable in person. I took a couple of pics but they turned out poorly. I may try again after work.

Codsticker
29-08-2006, 05:30
Here are some vehicles with the Desert Yellow (Tamiya) sprayed on them. the highlighting of the NATO Green is just about invisible in the photos and I am yet to highlight the yellow.

oops- fprgot to upload pics. :(

Codsticker
29-08-2006, 16:44
And the Demolisher and the Griffon.

Codsticker
26-09-2006, 04:58
Wow! Almost a whole month has gone by since my last update. Unfortunately I've not much to show for it. At this point I will probably work on each vehicle separately now as the bulk of the airbrushing is done. The painting on the Griffon is completely done. It turned out a little darker than I would have liked; the other vehicles will get a lighter wash to finish with. Tonight it will get a spray of semi-gloss, and tommorrow night decals and a coat of Testors Matte Airbrush finish.

Codsticker
03-10-2006, 06:04
I finished painting the Helhound this weekend. The green parts were lightly drybrushed with a combination of Goblin Green and Catachan green (about 40/60), the yellow with Bubonic Brown and the grey with a 50/50 mix of Fortress grey and Codex grey. Then the tracks were painted black, followed by a medium weight drybrushing of Mithril Silver and the raised bits were given a little extra silver. Then the whole thing was given a thin wash of Chaos Black mixed with Catachan Green (about 30/70). Finally the "dirt" was applied by airbrush in the form of a 30/70 mix of Tamiya's Flat Black XF-1 and Flat Brown XF-10.

I've put off doing the decals for now as I plan on making a custom bunch up and mixing those with GW's. At this point though, I haven't settled on what exactly they will be.

no-use4a-name
03-10-2006, 13:25
This army is progressing nicely. I like the camo scheme alot. And the re-worked rear hull of the Hellhound looks great. I may have to take that idea for a HQ Chimera I have yet to build. Thanks for the inspiration.

firestorm40k
03-10-2006, 16:49
These tanks look lovely so far, Codsticker - I'm very impressed with the airbrushing. Keep up your good work! :D :cool:

scrubout
03-10-2006, 20:03
Wow, I didn't notice the new Hellhound hull, it looks really nice. Your airbrushing is fantastic too, great stuff.

What ideas do you have for the decals yet?

-peace out
scrubout:skull:

Codsticker
04-10-2006, 03:49
What started as a problem with what decals to put on the tanks, has turned into a History of The First Kyoquot Tank Division. After reading about tank markings in North Africa in WWII I realised that there had to be some reason, and therefore consistency, with the tank markings plus the option for crew grafitti. I am searching for an appropriate symbol to represent the Division, then we have regiment number (undecided), Company number (undecided) Squadron symbol (the triangle from GW's tank decal sheet) and tank numbers (the white numbers from GW's decal sheet). I think I will have the Artillery seconded from it's own regiment so it will have it's own symbols as will the Infantry Support vehicles (Demolisher, Helhound and Chimeras).

As far as crew graffitti I have some Ideas. The Baslisk with have 'Rain of Fire' on it's barrel and other tags will include 'Ace of Spades', 'Bulldog' and 'Equaliser'. I haven't thought of one for the Helhound yet although 'Lil Bitch' seems appropriate. :D

BTW, thanks all for the nice compliments on the painting.

Codsticker
09-10-2006, 23:00
Another week has gone by and another tank finished- the Basilisk. Same process as for the other ones. I'm not sure if I will stick with the armour sides on the rear deck- I may just scrap them and leave it open.

Codsticker
21-10-2006, 05:20
Here is one of the Leman Russ I've finished. I only got one pic taken before the bateries died in the camera-:mad:. I'll have to take some more later.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/LemanRus9.jpg

Still learning
21-10-2006, 06:37
my only citicise is that it looks abit.... plain.

Codsticker
22-10-2006, 01:23
Yeah.. I had a nice little french maids outfit picked out for it but I decided at the last minute to drop it...
:p
No you are right: they certainly aren't inspired conversions or anything like that. At this point I'm just trying to get them painted up. I plan on adding accessories later. The Basilisk and Griffon will get crews (perhaps camo netting as well) and I'm thinking of adding branches and what not to the battle tanks.

Codsticker
22-10-2006, 19:12
Here's a couple more pics of the Leman Russ, 'Plain Jane'
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/lemanRuss9a.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/LemanRuss9b.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/LemanRuss9c.jpg

Codsticker
23-10-2006, 20:24
This is one of a pair of Leman Russes that I bought on ebay. They will each be a conqueror. This one came with the heavy flamer form the old vehicle accesories sprue glued on the hull where the front hatch is located (:confused:). It actually looked quite natural there but since the tank is destined to be a Conqueror I felt obligated to take it off. That mean that I had to build a hatch plate to replace it; the second (fuzzy) photograph shows it a bit better.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Conqueror1b.jpg


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Conqueror1c.jpg

Mrlemonjelly
23-10-2006, 22:35
Pretty good replacement there.

I once bought a horrible vindicator with all kinds of crap stuck all over it, including two hunter killers (old box style), a heavy flamer, and a ram with a stormbolter on it? Who knows what was up with that ...

Looks alright now i've stripped them all off and fixed it some.

Getz
23-10-2006, 22:51
You really don't want to to see some of the junk I picked up on ebay recently, but it was cheap and I'm pretty certain that once it's been paint stripped it will look much better...

Codsticker
24-10-2006, 00:12
I once bought a horrible vindicator with all kinds of crap stuck all over it, including two hunter killers (old box style), a heavy flamer, and a ram with a stormbolter on it? Who knows what was up with that ...

How bizarre...
This one also had one of the old-style Hunter/Killer missiles glued onto the other sponson and a couple of other things. The only cool thing that was glued onto it was 1/35 scale machine gun of some sort that was attached to the turret. I'm assuming it was used to represent a heavy stubber.

Codsticker
29-10-2006, 21:36
Although there are six vehicles sitting there waiting to be painted I decided that since I had a couple of spare turrets lieing around I would do a bit of building. As I needed a second Vanquisher turret I bashed another together like the first one: a simple barrel extension via a piece of 3/16 plastic tube. I'm not sure about the track links on the side; I may add more to reflect an 'Extra Armour' upgrade or tear them off all together.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Vanquisher10a.jpg

Codsticker
29-10-2006, 21:41
The next turret I put together took a little bit more work. Although I did not originally include an Exterminator in my list, I decided that I may want to change one os the HQ or Elite tanks (Vanquishers) to an Exterminator, and since I had another turret and the spare bits I went ahead and put one together using the autocannons from the IG Heavy Weapon Squad box. Figuring out how to fit them into the opening that the battlecannon normally goes into took a bit of thinking but I'm happy with the end result.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Exterminator10a.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Exterminator10b.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Exterminator10c.jpg

The final result being...
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Exterminator10d.jpg

cailus
31-10-2006, 05:03
I really dig the paint jobs. I like it that they're "plain". It's a cool camo scheme too.

A lot of people go nuts weathering their machines and add lots of gubbinz which just makes them look cluttered.

The weathering is daft because it generally doesn't occur that rapidly. I've seen pictures of aircraft stored in hurricane areas, near the sea (and therefore salt water), and in deserts often for a couple of decades and they are no-where near as weathered as some of the tanks and other vehicles painted by players.

Codsticker
02-11-2006, 05:25
There does seem to be a tendency towards putting all sorts of "stuff" all over tanks. I can see the appeal but I'm not after that look. My tanks represent fairly new vehicles with just a few engagements under their belts. A few dings and dents here and there, some dirt, but nothing to suggest that they have been in the field for years.

As far as extremely weathered and "lived in" looking vehicles goes, I plan on doing one up for the next Conflict I go to (almost a year away so I have lot's of time to procrastinate :rolleyes: ).

Getz
02-11-2006, 09:57
I really dig the paint jobs. I like it that they're "plain". It's a cool camo scheme too.

A lot of people go nuts weathering their machines and add lots of gubbinz which just makes them look cluttered.

The weathering is daft because it generally doesn't occur that rapidly. I've seen pictures of aircraft stored in hurricane areas, near the sea (and therefore salt water), and in deserts often for a couple of decades and they are no-where near as weathered as some of the tanks and other vehicles painted by players.

Whilst I tend to agree that many modellers over-weather their models, I don't think your examples of stored vehicles is in any comparable to wear and tear in the field. Most weathering should represent the accumulation of dirt and grime from travelling, sloppy maintenance and wear and tear on frequently handled areas.

Codsticker
05-11-2006, 20:42
An update! Well...not really. I've been distracted. I recieved a Rhino in the mail (courtesy of Warseer local Zapp Brannigan) for my third unit of DH Stormtroopers and although my intention was to set to work on it after my AC was done I couldn't help but start to scrape the paint off.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Rhino10.jpg

Then I started to build a Special Weapons Squad for my Light Infantry.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/SpecialWeaponSquad10.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/SpecialWeaponSquad10b.jpg

Codsticker
01-12-2006, 15:55
Still plugging away at 'er. It's been a few weeks but I finally finished off the Demolisher. I put a bit more wear n' tear into this one: lots of chips in the paint and rust with some subtle weathering that doesn't really show up in the photos.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Demolisher10a.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Demolisher10b.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Demolisher10c.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Demolisher10d.jpg

Easy E
01-12-2006, 17:05
I like the improved weathering. Your camo pattern is great too.

I notice that you drilled out the weapon barrels, but neglected to do the same for the exhaust ports. It will really help the back of the model. Also, don't forget to pick out some of the extra details on the back (Skull and Laurel), Plasma Cannons, and Heavy Bolter. This is a great opportunity to throw in some contrasting colors to draw the eye.

As for the specialist squad, I think you did a nice job on the demo charge. It looks like the guy is gonna toss it.

Codsticker
01-12-2006, 19:11
I didn't notice that I had neglected the exhaust barrels until after I had posted the pictures :( . I have since rectified the situation and drybrushed black soot around the edges and top.

Getz
01-12-2006, 20:18
I think the weathering on this tank is nigh on perfect.

Top job!

bigbauske
02-12-2006, 02:51
Great looking tanks, I like the camo and the weathering, are you using a airbrush?

Codsticker
02-12-2006, 03:29
Yeah, I'm using a Badger 150 with Tamiya acrylics. It's not a fancy brush but it has a nice smooth action.

Codsticker
02-12-2006, 18:24
I have a Vanquisher and an Exterminator ready for priming. each has a bit of stowage, stuff I hadn't put on teh previous tanks. It's a little hard to see with the black undercoat.
The Vanquisher has a s***load of tracks glued to the turret to represent extra armour (perhaps a few too many but we will see how it paints up).
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/vanquisherb.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Vanquisher11a.jpg
The Exterminator turret is on what was formerly a Conqueror hull. I'll be able to swap out turrets here suit my fancy (I also have another Vanquisher turret).
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Exterminatorb.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Exterminatora.jpg

BozzyB
02-12-2006, 18:36
I love the guy with the handbag...er...demo-charge.




BozzyB

Codsticker
02-12-2006, 19:06
He, heh.. he's a courier with some important documents in his satchel to deliver.;)

Getz
02-12-2006, 23:45
Is it just the pictures, or do those last two tanks have warped Chassis?

Brush your teeth
02-12-2006, 23:48
yeah, the rear track looks to be floating...?

otherwise its all looking nice, keep it up

Still learning
03-12-2006, 00:30
wow i love the whesthering, How did you do it?

Codsticker
03-12-2006, 03:27
Is it just the pictures, or do those last two tanks have warped Chassis?

It's sitting in a bit of a trough; I have a little something under the front edge of the sheet of plasticard that the tank is sitting on to raise the front for a better picture.

Still learning: The first thing I did was the usual method of representing fresh scrapes and dings: black paint followed by silver in centre of the black paint. After this I mixed a tiny bit of black into some Scorched Brown. With a detail brush I painted tiny chips and scrapes, with more on the front and at the back as well as on edges that looked like they may get lots of wear. Afterwards I sprayed my muck mix (Tamiya's Black, Red Brown, NATO Green, and about 70% thinner- it looks a lot like graveyard Earth with a little black mixed in) along the bottom and underneath. When spraying I didn't mind if I covered some of the "fresh" marks or a few of the "old" chips. For the rust streaks and some discolouration around clusters of nicks I added some more Red Brown to my muck mix, and very carefully sprayed it in streaks at about 12 psi..

Codsticker
08-12-2006, 05:50
After reading my response to Still learning's question about how I went about
weathering the Demolisher I decide to do a step by step with pictures. Why not, right? So...

Here is a pic of a Chimera that I have pre-shaded and then sprayed the camo pattern on.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Chimera1a.jpg
Next up, black paint is placed in areas where recent damge has rubbed off the paint and exposed the metal.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Chimera1b.jpg
Then the silver was added.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Chimera1c.jpg

Codsticker
08-12-2006, 06:06
After that I gave the whole thing a wash with a mix of Camo Green and (mostly) Chaos Black. I threw in a few drops of Liquitex Slo Dry Medium as well; this allowed the wash to get into the cracks and settle where I wanted it too and I was able to dab up the excess with a tissue. The added bonus with that was that the tissue left a subtle mottling pattern.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Chimera1d.jpg
The next step was applying the older chips and dings. This was done with Scorched Brown mixed with a couple of drops of Chaos Black and applied with a fine detail brush.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Chimera1e.jpg
Afterwards, with a very dry brush I gently created streaks of light weathering using Kommando Khaki.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Chimera1f.jpg
Back to the airbrush for the final step. A blend of Tamiya Flat Black, Flat Brown and about 70% thinner was sprayed on with a fine tip at about 12-14psi. pressure. I laid it on thick at the bottom of the hull and side where dirt and debris would collect and made small streaks where rust or oil stains. I also sprayed a bit around some of the bigger dings.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Chimera1g.jpg
All that's left to do now is paint the commander in the turret and a few other details and she's done.

Codsticker
11-12-2006, 20:52
One more down, and another Chimera on the work bench. Here are a couple of more pics of the finished item, including a close-up of the tank commander that was originally from the (now defunct) GW Exterminator kit.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Chimera2b.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Chimera2a.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Chimera2c.jpg

Still learning
16-12-2006, 08:15
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Sweet Lord thats incredible. Really good guide, Hope you don't mind if i use it for my tanks. Thanks heaps.

Codsticker
17-12-2006, 00:22
Well certainly. I found the cover article in the December issue of Fine Scale Modeler very helpful for weathering tips. The guy that wrote the article used a tiny paintbrush for his dings. I used a '0' but I think next time I'll use a '5/0' (super-fine).

Codsticker
29-12-2006, 01:11
Another belated update. Not much to show off; another bog standard Chimera. AT this point I will have finished off all the vehicles that have had their camo done. The next batch will include the Conqueror, Exterminator and the Vanquisher so the painting should be a little more interesting.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Chumera12a.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Chimera12b.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Chimera12c.jpg

schoolcormorant
29-12-2006, 01:23
very nice, well rusted, and the stubber is particulary good :)
how do you paint your tracks, i'm thiking theres a coat of brown under a drybrush of metallic?

SC

Codsticker
29-12-2006, 04:42
The tracks are painted black, drybrushed silver, then the raised parts are painted silver and finally they are hit with my muck mix from about 5cm away with the airbrush.

Still learning
29-12-2006, 07:05
seriously Codsticker, you are a god with the Airbrush. I now will pray to you daily.

Codsticker
29-12-2006, 17:12
Oh come now, that is not neccessary... just send me dirty pictures of your girlfriend/wife/whatever...
;)

Still learning
29-12-2006, 23:54
Oh come now, that is not neccessary... just send me dirty pictures of your girlfriend/wife/whatever...
;)

Will my dog do it for you :D

Codsticker
30-12-2006, 06:23
I think we should end this now before my Project log ends up in the Wastes...
:cries: :p

Codsticker
31-12-2006, 01:16
Here is the next batch of vehicles waiting for their camo; they have been pre-shaded (a little too harshly) with Tamiya's Field Grey. That's a Conqueror, the Exterminator and a Vanquisher across the back.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Tank-group1.jpg

sheep
31-12-2006, 02:20
they look great, wish i could get an air brush. What brand/model do you use?

Keep it up.

Cheers

Sheep

Codsticker
31-12-2006, 03:45
I'm using a Badger 150 with a Fine tip. It's a nice brush but certainly not a fancy one.

Still learning
31-12-2006, 04:38
Ah the brush i'm looking at getting.

Thats some mighty fine pre-shading there. I can't wait to see this finished.

Codsticker
31-12-2006, 16:51
Thanks for the compliment; the pre-shading is a bit darker than it should be but once the camo is over it and a wash or two it won't be so noticable.

When you get your airbrush make sure your compressor has a moisture separator and a method of adjusting air pressure. Some don't come with these items as standard and, depending on where you buy it, the staff may not know to point it out.

Codsticker
19-02-2007, 21:09
Time to ressurect this project (and this thread). Now that Januaury is behind me I'd like to get my Armoured Column finished up. the last pics I showed were of the remaining vehicles that need painting. They now have their camoflauge painted on (Tamiya's Desert Yellow/XF-59 and Tamiya's NATO Green/XF-67). They should cure for a day or the and then the camo will get a light drybrush.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ArmouredColumnGroup2.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ExterminatorFeb.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ConquerorFeb.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ChimeraFeb.jpg

Still learning
20-02-2007, 08:04
c'mon mate, i wanna see you finish this, Step on it!

Whats the plan for the army after completion.

jasevx
20-02-2007, 13:28
Me too, this might kick my **** into gear to finish mine, they look sad in Chao's Black!

Nice to see the tamiya paints being used, I've got aload sitting on my shelf, mmm.

scrubout
20-02-2007, 13:35
Very nice Cod. Good to see you making progress again.

-peace out
scrubout:skull:

Codsticker
20-02-2007, 15:32
c'mon mate, i wanna see you finish this, Step on it!

Whats the plan for the army after completion.

The Astronomicon tournaments here in Canada allow just about everything (CA lists, Forgeworld, Flyers even VDR on approval) and I plan on taking the army to Astro-Vancouver and Astro-Winnepeg. It will get a few warm-up games against BT's, Iron Warriors (:( ), Tau (:( ) and Nurgle-themed Chaos army (:D - that might be embarrassing as their infantry can't have heavy weapons).

I promise to keep on top of it now ;) ; other responsibilities kept me from working at it for the last month.

Codsticker
04-03-2007, 21:22
Big News!! OK... not really. I made a dozer blade for my Helhound. I decided I would like to do a beat up piece that, although sporting the same camoflauge, was an after thought (much, in fact, like it's reality ).
here it is in stages:

I took a foam brush and dabbed on Tamiya Hull Brown (XF-9) to represent old rust. As it dried I went over it with the foam brush "pulling" some of the paint giving it that raised effect.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Dozerblade1.jpg

Then I airbrushed GW's Vermin Brown (with a bit of Tamya's Desert Yellow (XF-59) over the Hull Red and in small light patches on the face of the blade
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Dozerblade2.jpg

The teeth were then given a coat of Boltgun Metal.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Dozerblade3.jpg

Followed by a highlight of Mithril Silver along the edges.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Dozerblade4.jpg

Codsticker
04-03-2007, 21:27
Step 5 was the debris. For this I used the following recipe:
1T. potting soil
1T. Sculptimold
1T. dark brown acrylic paint
1T. static grass flock
1T. white glue
2T. water

Mixed thoroughly and applied with brush you don't like very much in two coats alllowing to dry between coats.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Dozerblade5.jpg

And a black pin wash to finish it off.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/Dozerblade6.jpg

Codsticker
04-03-2007, 21:30
The end result with it on the Helhound being...
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/HelhoundMar.jpg

SisterMordagg
04-03-2007, 22:43
It was looking great before you put the mud on it and the mud is awesome.

You could have left it without the mud and made it look like it was just cleaned or somesuch. Maybe use that on one of your other vehicles?

Codsticker
04-03-2007, 23:57
I work at a lot of farms so I see a lot of tractor buckets that are worn and have muck and bits of dirt all over them. That is what inspired this particular dozerblade. I may or may not make another one but I plan doing a couple of tanks with their tracks like that. We will see how it looks: if it's good I'll probably go over the other vehicles with it.

Still learning
05-03-2007, 05:55
(THUD!) my draw droped to the floor,

Thanks alot for the tut. REally good

That seriously the best mud/rust i've every seen

scrubout
05-03-2007, 06:02
Wow, thank you sooo much for this tutorial Codsticker.

You earned a cookie!

-peace out
scrubout:skull:

Codsticker
28-05-2007, 04:03
It's time to revive this project.

After having to tidy up my IG and finish a couple of terrain projects for Astronomi-con Vancouver I'm back at finishing off my tanks. I've done some more work on the Conqueror and Exterminator. They are nearly finished- both need to have the muck sprayed on them, some rust stains airbrushed on and then a couple of thin black washes to tie them all together.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ConquerorMay27a.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ConquerorMay27b.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ExterminatorMay27a.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ExterminatorMay27b.jpg

Still learning
28-05-2007, 08:27
Gasps, an update!

Looking good as usual

Codsticker
29-05-2007, 17:07
Two more down! Weathering and wash completed; these three will be put aside until the decals are ready.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ExterminatorMay29a.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ExterminatorMay29b.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ConquerorMay29a.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ConquerorMay29b.jpg

Codsticker
29-05-2007, 17:11
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ConquerorMay29c.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ChimeraMay29a.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ChimeraMay29b.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ChimeraMay29c.jpg

jullevi
30-05-2007, 16:05
They are awesome, but you should already know that. One minor nitpick though: the heavy bolter barrels are quite bad. I would consider cutting them off altogether and replacing them with plasticard tubing or similar.

Greblord
30-05-2007, 16:43
Lovely work - subscribed

no-use4a-name
30-05-2007, 17:21
Great tanks as always. Glad you're back on this project.

D3V!L
30-05-2007, 20:44
Those tanks are absolutely great!

I really like the paint scheme and especially the weathering. I surely will use some of your tecniques on my Armoured Company.
I also like the mud. I think you should add some mud to the tracks aswell. They just look to clean at the moment.

Codsticker
31-05-2007, 04:39
They are awesome, but you should already know that. One minor nitpick though: the heavy bolter barrels are quite bad. I would consider cutting them off altogether and replacing them with plasticard tubing or similar.
Yeah, the heavy bolter barrels look awful; I may replace them in the future. It's funny how they jump right out at you in the photos but not so much in the flesh.

Those tanks are absolutely great!

I really like the paint scheme and especially the weathering. I surely will use some of your tecniques on my Armoured Company.
I also like the mud. I think you should add some mud to the tracks aswell. They just look to clean at the moment.

The first few vehicles that didn't get mud and dirt on them, will once the next couple of vehicles are done. The next two (a Vanquisher and another Chimera) I'm thinking of making really dirty. :evilgrin:

D3V!L
31-05-2007, 18:15
Well, THAT sounds good!:chrome:

Still learning
01-06-2007, 08:57
bloody briliant.

sheep
01-06-2007, 16:41
Awesome as always, i love the oil barrel alot, so grungy.

Cheers

Sheep

NorthernMike
01-06-2007, 17:46
These are just awesome! I love the airbrushed look. What kind of airbrush do you use? How much was it? How much paint does it take to do that many tanks?

I believe the only thing I am not quite as fond of is the hellhound. I understand not wanting to put the fuel tanks on the outside, but to me it just looks like a chimera with a heavy flamer. Maybe side armour to show the better AV on the side, or something else to separate it from a normal transport.

Really though, everything is fantastic, just beautiful. Can't wait to see it all done.

Codsticker
02-06-2007, 05:57
The airbrush is a Badger 150 (nice but not fancy). I can't recall how much I paid for it; I want to say $250 CN but I'm not sure that's right (it may have been less). Since the paint is thinned quite a bit (about 60-70% thinner depending on what tip and at what pressure I'm spraying) you don't use very much paint. The Tamiya paints are about $2.85 CN a pot and the only one I've had to buy a second one of is the black.

A couple of pages back there is a pic of the Helhound from the side which shows treadplate where the lasgun ports would be (that's where it gets the extra two points of side armour ;) ).

Codsticker
03-06-2007, 19:48
I'm trying a new mix for my scratches and dings. For the previous vehicles I did my fresh scratches by dabbing black and then highlight with a slim line of silver. For old scratches I had usede scorched brown with a little black added. My new mix uses a base of boltgun metal with black and scorched brown. I'm not sure I like the new mix; anyone else have a preference?

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/VanquisherJun3.jpg

The second pic isn't very nice: (edit: replaced with a more focused photo)
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/VanquisherJun3b.jpg

D3V!L
03-06-2007, 21:06
I like the old scratches a more. But in comparison there is no big difference.
Both look really well.
How do you paint them? With a small brush? (0/5)

Codsticker
04-06-2007, 01:39
I have an 0 that has a very fine tip- I've been using that brush with very thinned paint (more like ink). Having put it down and gone back and looked at it, I think I'm going to do a number of scratches and marks in the scorched brown/black mix.

Codsticker
07-06-2007, 17:06
I threw some mud at the Vanquisher and the Chimera. They are considerably dirtier than the others but I started to think it may be too much. The mud effect will be feathered out when I aire brush on the muck mix.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ChimeraJun7.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/VanquisherJun7a.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/VanquisherJun7b.jpg

Codsticker
10-06-2007, 21:05
I broke out the airbrush again and, frankly, I think I overdid it: too much rust, too much weathering and too much mud.

I'll allow the paint to cure for 24 hrs. then I'll give it a light dry brush with Kommando Khaki, pick out a few things (like exposed steel on the tracks) and then seal them up.

edit: I forgot to drill out the exhausts on the Vanquisher- AGAIN!
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/VanquisheraJun10.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/VanquisherbJun10.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/ChimeraJun10.jpg

Still learning
11-06-2007, 00:40
its never too much! i'm curious as to how you did the mud, you seem to be able to pull out a new trick every update.

scrubout
11-06-2007, 00:43
Amazing work as usual Codsticker. I love the scratches on the paint.

Do you just do a quick slash of boltgun metal and call it good for the scratches?

-scrubout

Codsticker
11-06-2007, 02:15
its never too much! i'm curious as to how you did the mud, you seem to be able to pull out a new trick every update.
The mud is the same mix I put on the dozerblade but built up over 4 coats. It then got sprayed with my muck mix (essentially, Tamya Flat Black w/ Red Brown).

Amazing work as usual Codsticker. I love the scratches on the paint.

Do you just do a quick slash of boltgun metal and call it good for the scratches?

-scrubout

The scratches are made with a mix of boltgun metal, chaos black and scorched brown, thinned with water and liquitex Slo-Dri Medium. The subtle colour difference doesn't really show up in the photos.

scrubout
11-06-2007, 06:11
Superb, thank you Codsticker.

-scrubout

firestorm40k
11-06-2007, 06:21
Excellent work, Codsticker, I'm glad to see you're continuing this project, your tanks really do look superb :) :cool:

D3V!L
12-06-2007, 19:25
I don't think that it really is too much.

but a bit less would look a bit more realistic.
Especially the difference between the tracks and the sides of the hull is a bit harsh.

But nevertheless it really looks great!

Codsticker
13-06-2007, 05:26
I agree; for the next vehicle (my tank destoyer) I'll be putting less on the sides.

Codsticker
24-06-2007, 03:22
Time to get started on my Tank Destroyer. I'll be doing an extensive modification of the chasis for my Destroyer and I will be using a few extras including these:
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/GrilleSet.jpg
I also happen to have this box set laying around:
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/TankAccessories.jpg
Which yielded these three barrels- one of which will make it onto the Destroyer. I'm a little undecided as to which one though (probably the middle one).
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/TankBarrels.jpg

Captain Brown
24-06-2007, 05:58
Beautiful work there Codsticker. Nice muted tones on the tanks and liberal use of the mud on the treads. 5/5 and I think I have bumped you back into 5 circle territory. How someone could give a lower score is beyond me, regular updates, great ideas, conversions, etc. :)

CB

imperial.cog.dean
24-06-2007, 06:18
wether and mud effects look ace :D

well done

icd

Rogue Trader
24-06-2007, 18:12
looking really cool, they will be great when you have added all the fine detail :D :D

Nocturn
24-06-2007, 18:20
That mud is reaally nice :)
and I like the color choice of your tanks ;-)
keep it up
Noc

jasevx
24-06-2007, 18:26
Middle one is the L7 105mm, good choice, but the destroyer is Las based isn't it?

Codsticker
25-06-2007, 00:18
Yes that is correct. I love the look of the gun and the detail is nice that's why I'm thinking of using it, even though the smoother guns (especially the 105-mm M68) would probably suit the anti-tank-laser-look better.

I've started work on the hull. I've decided to give it a cast mantle, the basis of which is the mantle upgrade for the L7A3 gun from the Tank Accessories kit.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/DestroyerJun24.jpg
Edit: it does look huge doesn't it? I may have to scratch that idea.

sheep
25-06-2007, 04:58
I think it looks fine, remember things in 40k have a scale all of its own, bigger is better.

Try it with tracks and then see what you think.

Cheers

Sheep

jasevx
25-06-2007, 09:17
Nice start to the design tho, might be worth bulking the barrel out a bit at the mantle end.

calcipher
25-06-2007, 09:21
The scratches are really interesting..Id like to try something similar. Thanks for sharing. Great thread.

Codsticker
25-06-2007, 21:58
I've fooled around with bulking out the mantle-end of the barrel. So far I have two options:
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/DestroyerJun25a.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/DestroyerJun25b.jpg

I think I prefer the second one as it's a bit more tapered.

Rogue Trader
25-06-2007, 23:30
looks cool, i would say the second one also :D

schoolcormorant
25-06-2007, 23:33
second, it's far more 40kish :)

all you're armour is beautiful, i really hate clean tanks for guard and you're an inspiration

SC

Rictus
25-06-2007, 23:48
Option 2 definately. Option 1 looks like it would snap off in a light wind.

jasevx
26-06-2007, 09:00
totally agree, 2nd is miles better

Penguin of Death
26-06-2007, 09:05
2nd looks more solid, and personally I have never liked that barrel where it gets wider then thinner, but that may just be me

Still learning
26-06-2007, 09:41
Wow, its coming along nicely, Remember when cutting PE, put some sticky tape over it then cut. THis makes sure it doesn't go flying (into your eye).

THe second gun looks heaps better imo, more bulk to it impling more power. Keeps the updates coming.!

Codsticker
26-06-2007, 16:52
Remember when cutting PE, put some sticky tape over it then cut.
:confused: What is PE?

Thanks for the compliments and opinions all.

I added some plastic to the barrel to make it a little more ForgeWorld'ish. Next up: some greenstuff to blend in some of it into the barrel.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/Codsticker/DestroyerJun26.jpg