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jp22102000
04-07-2006, 17:05
which of the current in print specialist games do you think needs an overhaul/new edition?

Brimstone
04-07-2006, 17:29
Bloodbowl has just received a new edition.

Oh and you forgot both Necromunda and Epic.

DarkWarrior1981
04-07-2006, 17:35
Bloodbowl has just received a new edition.

Oh and you forgot both Necromunda and Epic.
There are new editions of Epic (Epic Armageddon) and Necromunda (Necromunda Underhive) out there.;)

I'd like to see a new version of BFG.:)

Damien 1427
04-07-2006, 17:39
Necromunda needs to be taken a step back. Underhive was an utter farce. I'd gladly deal with 50-Scavvy Hordes and the frankly nightmarish Redemptionists of the original version than put up with the crap that they pass out now.

I'd like to see a tidied-up, expanded version of Mordheim with a larger selection of warbands in the book, possibily containing material that came forth from Town Crier. Same with BFG, to be honest. The games themselves are fine, just new rulebooks need to be published to cover the plethora of new material.

t-tauri
04-07-2006, 17:58
A new BFG was in the works when Andy C left GW and he was meant to be working on that as a freelancer but the death of Specialist seems to have killed that idea. I don't think we'll see new versions of anything from Specialist for a long time. :(

Quin 242
04-07-2006, 18:04
While I voted for bloodbowl.. I'd really like to see all of the so-called Living rulesbooks be updated to include additional material that has come out. And not just as add ons but to get into the PDF file and actually place new rules/units where they belong in the rule book. And instead of having an Errata page it'd be nice if they'd tidy that up in the "living rulebook" as well.

TWB
04-07-2006, 18:41
Necromunda needs to be taken a step back. Underhive was an utter farce. I'd gladly deal with 50-Scavvy Hordes and the frankly nightmarish Redemptionists of the original version than put up with the crap that they pass out now.

Preach it brother! Some of the stuff *cough house weapons lists cough* they've done truly sucks, not to mention the errors. fortunately I have the original books . . .

Charax
04-07-2006, 18:51
Um..hello? what happened to Inquisitor? we haven't even had a rules review in the last two years! (well, I know we didn't have the last one, not sure about the one before)

jp22102000
04-07-2006, 19:08
A new BFG was in the works when Andy C left GW and he was meant to be working on that as a freelancer but the death of Specialist seems to have killed that idea. I don't think we'll see new versions of anything from Specialist for a long time. :(
i pretty much hate to agree with you. i think if gw promoted the specialist games better they wouldn't have had to cut back on them. like only being able to get the stuff from mail order only wtf

dax
04-07-2006, 19:09
While I'm predominantly a warmaster player but I voted for BFG!
Warmaster has had BOFA and ancients released since which have tightened up the rules and the new version of the army lists has just been released so while it would be nice to have a 2nd edition I don't think its as needed as BFG.

orangesm
05-07-2006, 20:49
A reworking of BFG is kind of needed. More important to BFG though is not a reworking of the core rules but a good look at the various fleet list and a little balancing work there for a few of the fleets.

Marnus
11-07-2006, 20:18
what about inquisitor?

Lardidar
11-07-2006, 20:32
Gorkamorka - I loved that game :)

Necro - we still use the old rules ... they should never have messed with it in the first place.

Epic - I wish I wasn't the only player in the area with an army ... I loved the 1 game with the new rules I had.

Mordheim - I thought they were doing something this year ... Maybe just a dream I had.

Bloodbowl - A true classic .... I would almost argue best game GW have ever done.

Hero Quest - I would love to see a new version but that will never happen.

Eversor
11-07-2006, 23:08
:skull: I don't want to hi-jack the thread, but ... what's so wrong with the Underhive rules? I've never really read them, so I have no idea.

Steel_Legion
12-07-2006, 00:26
i think BFG, right now the rules are the only thing stopping me starting, they dont seem fantastic IMHO

Wraithbored
12-07-2006, 01:30
The rules for BFG are briliant all it would take is some light tweaks in some departments to even the playingfield even more, and add more ships for the non Imperial and Chaos fleets.

And BFG rules really are great, simply and effective, only epic comes close to the efficiency and simplicity of BFG.

Morph
12-07-2006, 14:11
Blood Bowl has been through enough editions already! It was brilliant a while ago and is now just being messed with.

BFG rules have always seemed good to me.

I would say Epic (though not an option). For some reason the rules just weren't very liked.

loony
12-07-2006, 16:32
I suppose:

From the still existing games I would choose Mordheim. It's in the corner of my hart, and I see it left alone. No new minis. Okay, understood. But no other stuff? Sometimes a houserule or old WD/TC articles on the SpecGames page. That's nothing. The game didn't even get a RRV for years now.

jp22102000
12-07-2006, 21:16
I suppose:

From the still existing games I would choose Mordheim. It's in the corner of my hart, and I see it left alone. No new minis. Okay, understood. But no other stuff? Sometimes a houserule or old WD/TC articles on the SpecGames page. That's nothing. The game didn't even get a RRV for years now.
there was a rules review being worked on for mordheim for armor saves and dual wielding weapons, but nobody seems to know what happened if it survived the cuts to specialist games.

Damien 1427
12-07-2006, 21:22
:skull: I don't want to hi-jack the thread, but ... what's so wrong with the Underhive rules? I've never really read them, so I have no idea.

The House Weapon lists, for a start. Needlessly limiting, with no apparent basis in the fluff, or in common sense. Only what was on the old models.

memitchell747
19-07-2006, 03:09
:skull: I don't want to hi-jack the thread, but ... what's so wrong with the Underhive rules? I've never really read them, so I have no idea.
Agree that the House Weapons List was an OK idea poorly implemented. The weapons listed are arbitrary and odd. A Sword is too difficult for some Houses to manufacture? At the very least, the HWL should be optional.

Some changes were made to the rules to account for things like the fact GW no longer produces Sustained Fire dice or cardboard templates of odd sizes. The changes are a mixed bag, and some fans just don't like them. I'm typically a by-the-book guy, and I generally avoid house rules. But, this book makes that impossible. So, any two groups of Necro players are using different rules, and lots of folks refuse to use the new rules at all.

Yorkiebar
19-07-2006, 04:18
:cries: Gorkamorka! Gorkamorka! Gorkamorka! :cries:

I voted for BFG. I don't intend to play Mordheim, Epic, Inquisitor or Warmaster any time soon, Necromunda's rules work fairly well and Blood Bowl is such a great game that major changes to the rules would be heresy.

gunmonkey
31-07-2007, 18:58
Mordheim got my vote. Was always tempted to give it a whirl but unfortunately GW got there before me.