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fable_dd
11-07-2015, 18:23
Dear all,

I didn't found this on the forum but Ahriman: Unchanged will be released September 2015.
Here the link:
http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/ahriman-unchanged-paperback.html

Killgore
01-08-2015, 07:35
Looking forward to this, the previous two books have been a good read.

blackcherry
07-08-2015, 10:10
I hope it answers a few questions I have about events in the series. The first book was a bit underwhelming to me and whilst I did enjoy the second book a lot more, I had completely forgotten I had read it until reading this thread!

nagash66
07-08-2015, 10:28
I had completely forgotten I had read it until reading this thread!

Same, ok-fun reads but forgotten about them fast.

DarkChaplain
10-09-2015, 13:18
Anybody read it yet and got some spoilers to discuss?

cswang
10-09-2015, 23:16
I'm guessing the ultimate condition of the Thousand Sons Rubric Marines remains...

Unchanged.

7788
10-09-2015, 23:50
I'm guessing the ultimate condition of the Thousand Sons Rubric Marines remains...

Unchanged.

Rustic Rubric.

Losing Command
11-09-2015, 05:29
The fact that Rubric marines and the sorcerers who steer them, many of whom kinda work for Tzeentch the god of change, are immume to mutation is probably a delightfull contradiction in the eyes of Tzeentch. Just as planned.

Nazguire
24-09-2015, 06:34
This book was awesome. If half the Black Library books were like this, they'd be getting far more money from me.

This wasn't a bolter porn book. This was a character development book, with twists and turns and changes unperceived throughout the entire story.

7788
24-09-2015, 13:46
I'm looking forward to this. I've read everything French has written on Ahriman except this and the new short in Exodus (unless I missed something, BL in typical fashion wants you to buy a bunch of previously released material in order to get the new story. A real loyalty-builder, that one). Anyway imo French has done a pretty good job with Ahriman so far.

Nazguire
24-09-2015, 20:52
I'm not going to spoil the whole plot as it is quite convoluted and to and fro, but the book ends with

...the second Rubric failing to be cast on the Planet of the Sorcerers, or so we think until the end of the book. It managed to transform Ahriman's Rubric Marine bodyguard, Helio Isodorus, back into his normal self (albeit missing all his memories prior to the Rubric.

Kiro
01-10-2015, 02:24
Please spoiler away, Naz. I've been looking for a decent, spoilered review online but can't find any.

Mob
01-10-2015, 06:03
Probably because it's genuinely one of those rare BL books that it's better to read yourself than just be given a precis; a lot of the real enjoyment derived from the book is not centred on the plot. But as it goes, and as I can remember, the actual events are, roughly
Ahriman crashes the Imperial blockade of Prospero with his gang
Pretty much every Thousand Son in realspace (with a few exceptions) then turns up at Prospero for various reasons. This includes Khayon.
The Imperium get their act together and murder the planet for good this time; Ahriman tells everyone who doesn't want to roll with him to book before they do this
Ahriman uses the sacrifice of Prospero to repower the Master teleport spell Magnus enacted back in the Heresy, which still links Prospero to the Planet of Sorcerors through timey-wimey warpy-zorpy stuff, which transports all of Ahriman's dudes to said Planet of Magic Guys.
There, Ahriman's dudes wreck the 'Magnus-loyal' Sons until Ahriman can activate the new and improved version of his Rubric.
It almost works until this pretty sweet Magnusite Son knocks Ahriman out of the sacrficial pose and takes his place, altering the deal (yeah, Ahriman had to die to make the Rubric work, which he was fully prepared to do). The Rubric then appears to fail.
Ahriman and his dudes are allowed to leave, as Magnus can't come up with any punishment worse than being failures twice over.
Ahriman is sad until one of his dudes discovers one of their Rubrics is actually back to being a dude.
It's Helio Isodorus.

That's the main plot. The reasons all that stuff happens, the character interactions, evolutions and revelations, and the secret reasons all that stuff happens...I'm not spoiling that.

nagash66
01-10-2015, 08:02
This was a solid read, wish BL put out more books like this.

Nazguire
01-10-2015, 11:07
Please spoiler away, Naz. I've been looking for a decent, spoilered review online but can't find any.

Man, if I was to spoiler the entire thing, I'd need to go back and round up the other two novels as well to make full sense of what is happening. There is a heap of time distortion, 'The Warp did it', Tzeentchian conspiracies, convoluted plot lines that don't come together until the end, etc. John French must have been pulling his hair out trying to ensure he was on point with this all, it's an ambitious novel.

It is clear though that Tzeentch is playing mind games with Ahriman and giving him false hope towards the end of the book to spur him on to further shenanigans for his own amusement. Ahriman is desperately trying to be his own master, but several scenes through out the book, at least in my opinion, show that he is definitely not in control of his own fate.

GreenKenny
27-11-2015, 09:56
new to forum here. i ended up here cz i was looking for spoiler rich content and discussions on the Unchanged novel, but couldn't find any. did people not read the book or is just not interesting? yes, im ashamed, but i have many questions about the novel, like the ending, did rubric fail? did it succeed with just 1 marine? is it only the first one or a lucky one? is it really the rubric working or another changeling trap? the guy who sacrificed himself instead of ahriman, was he actually trying to ruin ahrimans plans or actually sacrificed himself for him, or maybe an entire different thing? im confused. never had this much brain rape in any other novel. btw, im all about horus heresy, this was my first 40k series.