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grimgorkgalle
05-07-2006, 10:50
As I said...
I'm just dreaming of a day, when Specialist Games will reissue the good old GW games we played back in the days when we got infected by that strange virus.

Which one of the good old ones do you want to be reissued? Was it your first GW-game? Let' get nostalgic...

I got on GW-gaming via Space Hulk nearly 15 Years ago, but I want to see Man o' War again (but I know, that will never happen).

Shadowheart
05-07-2006, 11:30
Well, I voted Warhammer Quest, but that doesn't need to be a re-release. A new pseudo-RPG dungeoncrawl game would (hopefully) be even better. Ever since I played Heroquest as a kid, I've had a weak spot for quartets of adventurers hacking away at monsters in enclosed environments. Such a classic (and cliched) image of Fantasy gaming, I feel GW is incomplete without it.

Jellicoe
05-07-2006, 11:48
Space Hulk is the classic game unreleased. I well remember playing 1st and 2nd edition versions and even playing it in the dark with a mate who had painted the board pieces and figures in UV paint. All you need is a UV light and off you go!

other great games that i have mentioned elsewhere that will never again see the GW makeover include

Block Mania
Talisman
Dungeon Quest

All worthy games and all great fun

Chaos and Evil
05-07-2006, 12:14
Warhammer Quest *rocked*

grimgorkgalle
05-07-2006, 12:17
UV-light... Sounds great... pinching your opponent with Genestealerclaws...

Minister
05-07-2006, 13:00
Gorkamorka never sold well in the first place, because A) stupid people don't like games with only orks in and B) they reduced variety amongst the orks down to gorkers/morkers rather than havving the clan structure dominate still. It could be re-done, but probably as a Necromunda add-on in the same way as Lustria for Mordheim.

Space Hulk would ned to use something other than the latest edition for a basis, as it was more than a bit lacking in variety.

Man O' War needs re-done extensivley if it is to work, 'cause it really doesn't fit in with the setting as it is.

Warhammer Quest would be the easiest to re-do, seing as that it doesn't need much of a rebuild.

Finn Sourscowl
05-07-2006, 13:31
Man O War was the dogs dangly bits...

But Space Hulk is even more of a cult game...

*goes away to sit down and think...*

Jedi152
05-07-2006, 13:33
A very close run thing between WHQ and MoW, but the boats won.

Gen.Steiner
05-07-2006, 14:46
Gorkamorka!

Forgotmytea
05-07-2006, 15:24
Gorkamorka!
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/images/smilies/dito2.gifYES!!! :D In my opinion, the best game ever! Simply because it was different, with the varied warbands, fast vehicles and warriors. It was also one of the few games that, unless you're a total powergamer, you couldn't fail to have fun in. Ther was little more fun than sidesweeping your enemy's trukk, only to find yours topple over and then get hit by a Mutie Jezzail shot.

And don't let me start on the rebel grots - those little guys were awesome.... :)

-Forgotmytea

Wisdom
05-07-2006, 16:00
Man O' War needs re-done extensivley if it is to work, 'cause it really doesn't fit in with the setting as it is.


I don't know about that. I think it never did quite fit completely but then again bloodbowl fits in even less and thats still here and the background to it remains unchanged.

Besides which the bits where the game doesn't match the current fluff (I'm thinking new style gayboy bretonnians with no cannons) the game's often better.

Lab Monkey
05-07-2006, 17:29
Man'o WAAAAR!!!

(before my time, but I've heard and seen so much cool stuff)

failing that pdf format downloadable Space Hulk rules on the official website..

real ones

Ithilkir
05-07-2006, 19:02
I don't know about that. I think it never did quite fit completely but then again bloodbowl fits in even less and thats still here and the background to it remains unchanged.That'll be because BB is set in an alternative universe, not the standard Warhammer universe.

Wisdom
05-07-2006, 19:30
That'll be because BB is set in an alternative universe, not the standard Warhammer universe.


Fair play, I never knew that. Has that always been the case? Or is it a new thing? I suppose they could say the same thing about man o war if they rereleased it, rather than change something so beautiful. But they won't so it doesn't matter.

Damien 1427
05-07-2006, 19:49
Gorka doesn't need a reissue. Just to have PDFs of that and Digganob released on the GW website.

I'd love to see Quest, but due to the fact it's chock full of card, it won't happen. Maybe something new, based on Mordheim, would be better. Same with 'Hulk, though that stands a bit more of a chance.

I vote Man O'War.

Brother Othorio
05-07-2006, 20:59
i'm SURE i read somewhere that Jervis Johnson had to ask Rick Priestly for permission to leave Werewolves in Bloodbowl because they officially didnt exist in Warhammer Fantasy.. and it sticks in my mind the norse fleet list for MoW included Werewolves, which would put MoW in a separate universe..

Damien 1427
05-07-2006, 21:10
Weren't there were-everything in WHFRP though? And you get Werebears in Fantasy.

Minister
05-07-2006, 22:27
There are werewolves (and werebears) in warhammer, it's just that they don't have a place in any of the armies, and absolutley nothing to do with the undead.

Bombot
06-07-2006, 00:27
Space Hulk is the awesomest board game GW did. Pure atmosphere; class.

Melchiah
06-07-2006, 07:26
gorkamorka, pls wont someone think of the children?:cries:

grimgorkgalle
06-07-2006, 09:56
As I expected: a run between Man o war and Spacehulk...

@Ithilkir: I can't see BB's universe that far from the "real" WHFB background, the MOW background is not far from it too. (ok Bretons with cannons...) They are both fun games, both a persiflage on the grim Warhammer reality...
That would not be a real problem...
I think it is the huge amount of templates you have to use, that does not fit in modern wargaming... the main obstacle for rereleasing MOW...

Drabant
06-07-2006, 11:26
I voted Man'o'war, since that's what I'd like to see the most. If GW actually does anything though, it will probably be Space Hulk, or something similar to it, since that will probably sell better with people buying for other reasons than nostalgia.

Dr Death
06-07-2006, 16:44
I'd like to see both Gorkamorka and Space Hulk revisited. I've always thought of them as the "specialist games which never were" and so a timely redo of both would be the best option. With new plastic Terminators and genestealers released at about the same time i actually wonder why Space Hulk didnt happen and Gorkamorka would be a great thing with the virtually inevitable new ork vehicle kit. My vote went for Gorkamorka but both are what i'd like to see.

Dr Death

Anvilbrow
06-07-2006, 20:09
I voted Man-o-War for one simple reason, new models. The game is great, I have all the components in excellent condition, but only two fleets and buying them on Ebay is pretty pricey.

Warhammer Quest is the same way, but I own everything ever made for that game including Deathblow, in fact last night we played a dungeon after some fantasy as we do every Wednesday. There are in fact seven different players at my local store (non-GW of course) who regularly play.

I would love to see Space Hulk again as well, haven't played that in ages and sold off my 1st and 2nd ed sets years ago...

As for Gorkamorka, I've got all the stuff, but no desire to actually play. Neat idea, too limited in scope IMHO.

bob syko
10-07-2006, 11:02
Warhammer quest all the way, I got it for christmas when I was a kid and played all over the holiday, I think I forgot what the warmth of the sun felt like, I still play it today so perhaps there is no need for it to be re-released as GW may pull down there corporate pants and do a poo all over it.

bob syko
10-07-2006, 11:07
http://wquest.free.fr/index2.htm

This address has loads of Warhammer quest character rules and all the official ones in case you missed out when you could buy them.

shaw3029
10-07-2006, 22:22
Gorkamorka was the first game I ever played, and one of the most fun. Just a silly fun game.

I doubt it would ever be re realeased though.

Man o War I have never played but It seems that if there going to rerelease a game it should be that one. I imagine it would sell well as well, unlike bloodbowl and space hulk it hasnt been re released thirty times or somthing.

Plus isnt everyone going to be going pirate crazy at the moment what with the new pirates of the caribean just come out. And another one to follow soon.

Red Skullz
12-07-2006, 05:00
I loved Warhammer Quest and before that HeroQuest.

It`s a brilliant game for some fast action a late evening, very moody and very fast to learn. That you only need to paint a handfull of models incl the enemy makes it even better.

So a re-release and expansion is what`s needed here.

Morph
12-07-2006, 13:57
I was close to voting for MoW, we still play it every now and then. It's a lot of fun and the complexities and million card ships and counters add to the fun.

However the game I'm most nostaligc for is Warhammer Quest. I don't think I've ever played a game that has been so much fun, just due to the simplicity of the idea. Go into a room, kill the monsters, steal the treasure. What added so much was that this was co-operative - leading to all sorts of debate and argument over who gets what and which way to head. It's bringing a tear to my eye even now.

Splagbot
12-07-2006, 15:29
Warhammer Quest for the following reasons:-

1) You can kill loads.

2) You can pick up loads of treasure.

3) The character development was unsurpassed, example, Ithlis the Elf Ranger who held his life in such high regard that he often ran off when things got tough, annoying you say, I thought it was rather funny.

Seriously though, Space Hulk already had it's turn and botched it, just let it go.

loony
12-07-2006, 17:03
I want them all! I'm still having a 2nd ed SpaceHulk and Gorkamorka with Digganob. But it's hard to find other "co"-players, because they don't want to buy just some orks, they want the game all. But SpaceHulk is really on its way here. GW should think some amout the classic board-games. It is just the first step towards the collecting. The important first step.

Jedi152
12-07-2006, 17:58
1) Go and see Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Mans Chest.

2) Vote Man o war...

lee
15-07-2006, 18:31
its got to be space hulk:D its the game that got me in to warhammer and 40k

Zingraff
15-07-2006, 20:27
I would like to see a system similar, but not necessarily identical to Space Hulk. What I would like to see is something of corridor/maze kind of game which allows the players to use miniatures they already own, so it's not necessarily a Space Marines vs. Genestealers game. The maze should be randomly constructed during the game, with one player being the aggressor or infiltrator, and the other being something of a horde or a disorganized defender.

The maze could represent anything, from the corridors onboard a spaceship, a hive sewage system, an underground bunker defense system, or perhaps the interior of some savage, horrid, giant Tyranid beast. Each scenario could then be played with certain rules unique for their setting, which certain mechanisms or traps present on some tiles.

Event cards would also be cool.

The possibilities with a game system like this would seem endless.

sulla
15-07-2006, 21:26
I voted man o war. BUT... I think it should be redone in warmaster scale as a naval expansion to warmaster. that way, you could have the best of both worlds... 2 stand alone games which can also be combined together to play marine assaults etc.

starlight
15-07-2006, 21:32
Stupid non-multiple choice poll.:p

All of them silly.:p

Edit:

I'm actually in favour of a revamp that integrates all of GW's games into an overarcing integrated set of systems for WFB, 40K and LotR. Full playability and backgrounds for gaming from RPGs to Skirmish through to EPIC/Warmaster gaming. One set of background for each system and interplayability for all of the rules-sets. the ability to go from naval/space assaults to land combat to squad level and RPG wouldn't take TOO much.:D

Heck, I'd do it for quite a reasonable fee.:D

revford
18-07-2006, 05:52
I voted for Warhammer Quest, it was WHFRP and Heroquest that got me into all this in the first place.

As to cross system integrated warfare on many scales, cool.

There were rules in an old white dwarf for taking your WHQ characters onto the WFB table.

It could be done with something like the Warhammer Generals Compendium, just add a campaign system that allows for missions/battles at different scales.

40K could be Gothic > Epic > 40K > Kill Team > Inquisitor

Maybe drop Kill Team and Inquisitor for Necromunda?

Fantasy would be Man O'War > Warmaster > Warhammer > Mordhiem > Warhammer Quest

The suggestion to re-release Man O'War as a Warmaster supplement is ace, that way they could re-use it as a Pirates game for Warhammer Historical.

Lord of the Rings would be Five Armies > SBG

Short list for Lord of the Rings but it's already an excellent system that scales well between WHQ style dungeon bash games and huge siege battles.

Skaven Lord Vinshqueek
18-07-2006, 11:35
GorkaMorka:
A more then awesome game and I'm very glad to have it in my control. The game itself wouldn't even need a revision, as it closely fits in on the gameplay from Necromunda. A simple re-release of models would do the trick and we'd be having a kick-off of the whole thing again!

Greetz

revford
18-07-2006, 14:09
I would pay specialist games to hang onto Gorkamorka until the new Ork Codex is released.

They could plug any new ork troop and vehicle models as ideal for Gorkamorka and release the rules as either a pdf stand alone, or as an expansion for Necromunda Underhive.

horror
09-08-2006, 12:45
i heard gorkamorka was sweet.

Arduhn
10-08-2006, 03:51
ever since the general's compendium came out I have been more and more intrigued by naval battles, plus bfg is really fun. Therefore, I would like to see man o' war or something similar for naval battles in wfb. The pirates card game just isn't good enough (although it is quite fun, anyone else play?)

bob syko
10-08-2006, 19:35
I was playing WQ again the other day, I love that game so much, the warhammer quest museum has closed down as well:cries: .

Anyone know of a decent board game RPG similer to WQ.

Warden
10-08-2006, 19:51
Gorkamorka never sold well in the first place, because A) stupid people don't like games with only orks in and B) they reduced variety amongst the orks down to gorkers/morkers rather than havving the clan structure dominate still. It could be re-done, but probably as a Necromunda add-on in the same way as Lustria for Mordheim.

Space Hulk would ned to use something other than the latest edition for a basis, as it was more than a bit lacking in variety.

Man O' War needs re-done extensivley if it is to work, 'cause it really doesn't fit in with the setting as it is.

Warhammer Quest would be the easiest to re-do, seing as that it doesn't need much of a rebuild.


Its been said many times by Jervis that WHQ will never be redone, all the disks where lost during the studio move :cries:

Wasn't Man O War being redone as a Warmaster supplement?

bob syko
10-08-2006, 20:27
Its been said many times by Jervis that WHQ will never be redone, all the disks where lost during the studio move :cries:

I asked him about it at a games day one year and he said something like "Well we're focusing on the other games at the moment as they are more exciting and we have lot's of things we want to do with them", a few weeks later I hear the disks are lost, I'm not saying they lost them on purpose but well..Y'know.

I would be more than happy to give him all my warrior packs and supplements, all the rules are available online as well so it wouldn't be that hard to do. Even a game similer to WQ would make me happy, Inquisitor is probably about as close as they're ever going to get to another RPG though.

Son of the Lion
10-08-2006, 21:17
I loved WHQ and Space Hulk as much as the next guy 'back in the day', but it really is time to move on - this is aimed at GW more than anyone. I think (just) one of the places they have gone wrong in recent times is ignoring periperal games as a good source of income/intro to the hobby. Instead of treating any new game system as a seperate cash cow to be hyped and dropped when it can't compete with the core sellers, GW should maybe focus on releasing small, easy to learn boxed games that lead directly into/are fully compatible with the big 2.
GorkaMorka, SpaceHulk, Necromunda and WHQ are all fairly good examples of the intro issue, and compatability to a lesser extent (the minis at least were interchangable with WHFB and W40k). However, instead of rehashing old releases (I know nostalgia was the theme, but.), how bout similar games with new themes, or (as someone else suggested) generic rules sets for smaller, more esoteric combat in both worlds?

Incidentally, does anyone else find this "BB exists in a parallel universe, that's why it doesn't follw the strict rules of WHFB" thing a bit lame? I mean, why do we have to have this fact rammed down our throats? Surely it's blindingly obvious BB shouldn't be taken seriously?! Sorry, it's just this kind of patronising attitude reminds me that GW takes itself far too seriously these days.


P.S. Oh, if I must. Warhammer Quest. :) Old school dungeon hacking!
(Does anyone else really believe they need the disks to rehash the game?)

Son of the Lion
10-08-2006, 21:19
Inquisitor is probably about as close as they're ever going to get to another RPG though.

There's actually (three) 40k RPGs in the works even as we speak....

Arduhn
10-08-2006, 22:04
not to mention warhammer roleplay, pretty fun, I am GMing a campaign right now :)

Son of the Lion
10-08-2006, 22:38
I've been meaning to have a go at that.
How does it hold up to other (nonGW) RPGs?
(eg AD&D, Lot5R, Palladium etc)

Cpt. Drill
10-08-2006, 22:40
Trolls in the pantry....

Gotta love that cassette!

Son of the Lion
10-08-2006, 22:59
My first ever trip to a GW (Harrow if I recall) many moons ago, they were playing it instore. Awesome....

Arduhn
11-08-2006, 00:26
well, I am not a big rpger but the guys in my gaming group like it better than AD&D which they play quite a lot of. That could just be cause I am a fantastic GM though...at least that is what they tell me :D

bob syko
11-08-2006, 13:46
P.S. Oh, if I must. Warhammer Quest. :) Old school dungeon hacking!
(Does anyone else really believe they need the disks to rehash the game?)

I do not think 'losing' the disk would get in their way if they actually wanted to do it.


There's actually (three) 40k RPGs in the works even as we speak....

Yay! Praise the lord.

DeathMasterSnikch
11-08-2006, 14:07
Just spent £92 on WHQ :D

Now I just need warrior packs, shame they go soo high...

Sadly the best WHQ fansite just shutdown :(

Wonderdog
11-08-2006, 14:38
When you said "the most popular WHQ site" I immeadiately jumped over to the WHQ museum, and to my horror found a "page is closed, thankyou" message :S

WHQ musuem - we salute you! I wish I had a backup of the site :S

#Wonderdog

ThousandPlateaus
11-08-2006, 15:13
As much as I love Space Hulk, I'm hoping that that'll be taken up and swallowed into 40k with an expansion in a few years time, so my vote's going for Warhammer Quest!

We played pretty much everything GW produced when at school as well as loads of RPG stuff, and none of them could outclass the amazing level of roleplay that we got out of such a simple game. It's strength was it's linearity and it's simplicity of rules, which left a gaping hole to be filled up with anything else that we wanted to, and we just went all out. The best campaign I've ever played in.

Such happy memories of that game, it was absolutely brilliant... *sigh*

cookiescrumble
11-08-2006, 15:34
I love it too, playing it at the moment at my local club.

Fantastic game!

Lord-Warlock
11-08-2006, 15:44
I'm going to have to say Man'o'War, just for the extra dimension it would bring to the Warhammer World. Gorkamorka comes in a close second.

And Snikch, your avatar... err... wow. :p

- LoW

DeathMasterSnikch
11-08-2006, 15:58
When you said "the most popular WHQ site" I immeadiately jumped over to the WHQ museum, and to my horror found a "page is closed, thankyou" message :S

WHQ musuem - we salute you! I wish I had a backup of the site :S

#Wonderdog

Yep. :cries:

I almost died when i saw that...I finaly get WHQ after my 8 years of wanting it...few days before it comes and WHQM closes...Luckily the person i bought my WHQ off had backed up all previous articles from WD etc on a disk, plus I saved some things from WHQM...still...nothing can replace it.

@Lord-Warlock: Hehe thankyou :p

MordrekDaMean
11-08-2006, 16:39
Man O War is a MUST! I want a copy so damn badly. It would complete the perfect trinity of games... Mighty Empires, Warmaster, and Man O War. With those three you can run absolutley vicious campaigns of conquest! Great fun!
Mighty Empires itself should be re-released. I know GW doesnt want to have games with cards and counters... but imagine Mighty Empires with interlocking plastic map tiles? Or maybe an expansion for 40K?

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bob syko
12-08-2006, 17:37
Now I just need warrior packs, shame they go soo high...
(

I've got the brettonian, wardancer and imperial noble rules, if you PM me your e-mail address I can send them to you. Same for anybody that wants them.

Gen.Steiner
12-08-2006, 17:51
I still say Gorkamorka. :p

Powerslave
12-08-2006, 23:02
Dark Future.
Converting up those match box cars and terrozing folks in little HO scale towns was big fun. I've never had a bad experience when I drag that game out. Streamlined rules would really be all the game needs (if gw doesn't wanna cast the old minis - which were great!). This is something SG could easily do.

grotnob
15-08-2006, 04:22
Yep, Dark Future's the one what needs rereleseing - that or the original Adeptus Titanicus- it wasn't EPIC - that was nothing more than a White Dwarf article that got out of hand.

Niibl
17-08-2006, 21:18
"I saw the furure and it was dark...but then I took my shades off"
Dark Future was a lovely game allthough the rules were somewhat messy.
Sure, it was a Car Wars rip off but the miniatures made all the difference.

Since I know the Doom and Descent boardgames I doubt that I could still enjoy WH-Quest or Spacehulk that much.
These systems are simply outdated IMHO.

Allthough I love Man o'War thegame would have to change even more radically than Spacehulk or WHQ.

So I voted for DARK FUTURE.

VenerableDread
17-08-2006, 22:01
Space Hulk. Looking at the plastic Termies in it got me into collecitng Space Marines in the first place.

Cactusman
18-08-2006, 00:04
Space Hulk. Ah yes, what a game. I am still lamenting its passing on many years hence and I hear the mobile phone version is pants. Bring on the Hulk! You won't like it when it's angry!

New Cult King
18-08-2006, 01:54
Space Hulk, without a doubt whatsoever. Give me back my dark, dripping, claustrophobic, nightmare space ship filled with unspeakable alien horrors!!

aximand
20-08-2006, 17:03
a new space hulk , with newly sculpted models of termies , gs's , hybrids , the lot!!!!!!!!!!
ahhhhhhhhh!

Splagbot
23-08-2006, 01:10
Space Hulk. Ah yes, what a game. I am still lamenting its passing on many years hence and I hear the mobile phone version is pants. Bring on the Hulk! You won't like it when it's angry!

I didn't like it when it wasn't angry, Space Hulk had it's chance and blew it twice, bring back Warhammer Quest, it's a brilliant game, I still play it regular, you have the chance to develop your characters like no other game, one of my first characters is going to be used in Warhammer as an army general, once you've played it you'll never go back, trust me, I'm an adventurer.

Nachtmeister
25-08-2006, 10:12
Man O' War is the game I'd like to see re-released.It was fast and highly tactical. Sure, they'd had to do something about about those clumsy ship's stat cards but there was nothing wrong with the game system itself. Some ship designs should be changed as well because they're outdated and why does a magically powered Blach Ark need sails anyway. A little tweak here and there and game is ready to set sails again. Besides, some of the critical hits charts were just hilarious: hit the captains rum supply, the whole crew gets wasted on booze, ship out of order for 2 turns or something like that.

Hobbes
26-08-2006, 09:39
SpaceHulk for life!
The tension, the horror... absolutely great!
Lucky me I have a bunch of boxes of both versions. Never bothered much with the expansions though, made an elegant game cluttered and slow.

// Hobbes

DeathMasterSnikch
27-08-2006, 06:43
I didn't like it when it wasn't angry, Space Hulk had it's chance and blew it twice, bring back Warhammer Quest, it's a brilliant game, I still play it regular, you have the chance to develop your characters like no other game, one of my first characters is going to be used in Warhammer as an army general, once you've played it you'll never go back, trust me, I'm an adventurer.

Indeed, I'm spending vast amounts of money atm gathering WHQ stuffs, Just won a Troll Slayer Pack minus mini off ebay :p go me.

baphomael
27-08-2006, 23:36
Oh my god, I can feel a single manly tear roll down my cheek as I think back to all the joy I had playing all these old games.

As much as I love them all my vote goes to Gorkamorka. Never have I had so much fun with a game before. It was just perfectly silly and fun. Fast buggies zipping around, crashing into things and squishing prone grotz. It also encouraged some of the most creative conversion work I've seen in a long time.
It also had Orks. Lots of Orks. Since Orks are my first love anything with Orks in that captures that proppa' Orky spirit is OK in my books.
Oh, and rebel grots. Can anyone fail to smile at the concept of pinko-commie Gretchin in wind-powered carts?



Then again, thinking back to Trolls in the Pantry...shame I cant vote for more than one :p

Kahadras
28-08-2006, 00:50
Man O War would be awesome to see redone. It would need a bit of changing to fit in with the background. The main thing would be to change the Bret's. Giving them rams (like lances) and making them optimal for bording (where knights can meet the foe in honerable close combat). The small ship can still have the trebuchet aboard them (just say they aren't crewed by knights).

Along with lots of nice new models it would be great IMO.

Kahadras

DeathMasterSnikch
28-08-2006, 06:00
I want ratling guns and warplightning cannons then :)

Warsmith Strader
28-08-2006, 13:31
Gorkamorka!

It was a funny mindless game, that allowed conversions not of GW parts... though I wished it would have come with the new orks the larger one. plus it spawned the vehicle rules as we know them now..

but I agree with a better edition of Necromunda too, maybe up current with 40k as far as weapons rules.

Chiron
29-08-2006, 06:44
but I agree with a better edition of Necromunda too, maybe up current with 40k as far as weapons rules.


oh dear god no :eek:

Crube
29-08-2006, 12:25
ManoWar...

That game rocked big time...

rkunisch
29-08-2006, 15:29
I voted Space Hulk, but Warhammer Quest is nearly as good. Both games were great to get introduced into the Games Workshop universe while still having a great charm on their own. :)

Have fun,

Rolf.

2_heads_talking
29-08-2006, 20:52
I'd love Space Hulk to make a welcome return; that game has so many good memories for me. It was my 16th birthday present, I found a large pile of the 2nd edition boxes in a store going for £20 each and BEGGED my mum or one between me and my twin. She got me it and I've played it ever since.

Heh, it was even the first game I introduced my girlfriend to when I tried to help her understand my obsession with little plastic men; its now at the stage its the only GW game she'll play with me!

BTW, yes the mobile phone game is pants, and even today I'm still trying to pick up 1st edition and its supplements (it'll cost me a frickin' fortune but would be SO worth it!)

Splagbot
06-09-2006, 03:37
Indeed, I'm spending vast amounts of money atm gathering WHQ stuffs, Just won a Troll Slayer Pack minus mini off ebay :p go me.

Not having the model isn't really a problem though, you can get it from mail order anyway.

StugMeister
06-09-2006, 07:20
I'd love for them to re-do WHQ. That game rules!

I really wish GW hadn't lost all their files etc for the game......

Satan
06-09-2006, 11:47
Mighty Empires.

...Which may happen....maybe...at some point...

Goq Gar
06-09-2006, 12:37
BRING BACK GORKA MORKA!

I miss watching the big kids play that when I was 5 and learning how to assemble a saurus.

Jedi152
06-09-2006, 12:43
Didn't you hear? Gorkamorka is returning when the new ork codex is released.

Goq Gar
06-09-2006, 12:55
... *cries with joy*

Jedi152
06-09-2006, 13:01
Cut from the SG forums (http://www.specialist-games.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6267&whichpage=2):


I do plan to release the GorkaMorka game in an Online format, I'm holding off until the 40K Ork Codex and range release to give the game maximum impact and allow it to piggyback off the new models and plastic kits.

Splagbot
06-09-2006, 23:16
I'd love for them to re-do WHQ. That game rules!

I really wish GW hadn't lost all their files etc for the game......

Damn their incompetence.

Wolfgang
06-09-2006, 23:25
Valley of the Four Winds was my first GW game and one of the first fantasy games I played.
Still have it and like it, have even tracked down a few of the minis.
Warlock was also cool, Man O'War was silly fun, and Blood Bowl remains my all-time favorite GW game.

DisruptorX
07-09-2006, 00:16
Gorkamorka never sold well in the first place, because A) stupid people don't like games with only orks in and B) they reduced variety amongst the orks down to gorkers/morkers rather than havving the clan structure dominate still. It could be re-done, but probably as a Necromunda add-on in the same way as Lustria for Mordheim..

More like it didn't sell because people don't like playing fun games. :)

Gorkamorka is GW's finest game, and I'll tell you why: powergaming is inherently discouraged. No high powered guns, silly looney tunes phsyics with orcs flying off moving vehicles and being driven over all over the place. Clan structure doesn't exist on Gorkamorka because the orks there had to start their civilization from scratch. Unforunately, even GW forgot this and ditched the clans in 40k, too.

I vote Gorkamorka. Second place would have to go to Hero Quest.

75hastings69
07-09-2006, 06:45
I couldn't decide between SpaceHulk, Man O War, and WHQ, had to plump for MoW though in the end.

tenpole
07-09-2006, 08:36
I had warhammer quest but I did not rate it that much, so I sold it aftera few months for £15

Capitán Sánchez
07-09-2006, 13:59
Space Hulk. With varied minis in the box, not only termies and genstealers.

Thank you

Jim
13-09-2006, 15:39
I voted for Gorkamorka...the reason being it was released when I first started to work for GW (Richmond) and it was so easy to have brilliantly entertaining intro games with it...

The rules (kind of) went out the window...everything did stuff on a 4+...trukks blew up, orks got run over, no one could shoot for toffee and everyone playing laughed so hard a little bit of wee came out...or was that last bit just me???

It was one of the only games where I have never seen any hint of power gaming or rules lawyers...which can only be a good thing in my book.

A classic game and easy-peasy to bring back as Jedi152 (thank you!!!) has just pointed out!

Cheers

CaptainSenioris
19-01-2007, 14:04
Gotta be space crusade.

It got me into wargaming so I might as well mention it

Hellebore
20-01-2007, 04:29
Well, I am very hopeful.

Why? Because Black Industries, the guys who redid Warhammer Fantasy Role Play, are rereleasing Talisman, and appear to be GWs BOARDGAME WING!

So, I am hopeful that they will rerelease their other boardgames through them.

Mmmmm, Space Crusade, Space Hulk, Heroquest, Warhammer Quest.....

If Talisman works, then we may see all these.

Hellebore

Jonny Shoreboy
20-01-2007, 19:47
I voted for Man O War. It's still one of my favourite games ever.

Hawkmoon
21-01-2007, 11:10
Hands down, I want to see a new edition of Man O War! It was the first 'Alternate' Warhammer game I ever played and every once and while I'll break it out when my mates are over and do battle on the high seas!

BTW my alltime Favorite ship - the Chaos Shark-Ship. I just love doing the theme to Jaws just before I start to eat someone elses ship. :evilgrin:

Nerroth
22-01-2007, 00:27
A revised Man O'War - or a conversion of BFG to the fantasy setting (Warmariner?) - would be great.

And if that meant an excuse to bring in a gigantic Cathayan Treasure Ship (a la Zheng He's massive Baochuan, the flagship of the Chinese Treasure fleets of the early fifteenth century) all the better!


Gary

Gen.Steiner
22-01-2007, 00:30
Didn't you hear? Gorkamorka is returning when the new ork codex is released.

*explodes with glee*

DA GREEN REVOLOOSHUN RETURNZ!

Ladz, fire up da Cutta an get da Snots an der catapults reddy, we iz goin ta strike at da enemee an strike a blo for da Red Gobbo! :D

nanktank
26-01-2007, 10:27
WHQ is one of my favourites, Although GorkaMorka comes a close second

Siam-Tiger
26-01-2007, 11:06
How can anybody vote for SpaceHulk? It´s a free download on the gw page and you have a big ressource of figs in the 40k Range.

Go for Man-o-War!

General Samuel of the 101
27-01-2007, 01:02
Man-o-war is a good choice,but Space Hulk is better
but could you think of the price tag of SH with termies costing 25 pounds for 5? and current GW Pricing for everything?
they are reisuing talisman,and that a good start

Rangerrob
27-01-2007, 01:35
Shocked that Man O' War was not in the top spot after I voted.

Tymell
27-01-2007, 13:55
Of the four main ones up there I'd have to say Man O' War, with Warhammer Quest in a close second.

Gorkamorka and Space Hulk, while still fun games, are inherently limited in their scope: there's only so much you can do with them, and Gorkamorka could also be simulated reasonably well with the Necromunda rules, as an expansion for it or some such. I'm not putting the game down, but if I have to pick I'd rule it out.

The same sort of thing is true of Warhammer Quest with the Mordheim rules, although I feel it has greater scope as a game. But Man O' War wins out because it could present a genuinelly new game system (for Fantasy at the least) and there's plenty of room to take it in different directions.

Jambo
27-01-2007, 16:36
MoW rocked, it was the game that really got me into GW and despite BFG trying to do a similar job, it just doesn't come close. As for the counters/templates alot of work has already been done on t'internet to make them as playing card size laminated templates for use ala warmachine. A re-release would be awesome and I'm sure I'd spend far too much time with it, all over again.

the1stpip
13-02-2007, 07:46
Definitely Man O War.

While I love Talsiman (will be buying it when its released) Space Hulk and WHQ, Man O War was fantastic.

If you want the Gorkamorka rules, try ebay. I got mine off there for less than a tenner.

mattjgilbert
13-02-2007, 08:56
I voted space hulk.

Although Talisman IS about to be rereleased :D

Kiro
13-02-2007, 13:33
Definitely GorkaMorka, with the new Ork and Necron character/fluff they've got reams to expand on!

yeancientone
13-02-2007, 14:23
Dark Future, please - it's totally outside the two universes, though (WFB and 40K), so it's highly unlikely.

Permanganate
13-02-2007, 15:35
Epic - as GW's third game, with a small corner of the shop all to itself. Ah, those were the days...

ash_wednesday
28-02-2007, 20:23
I voted Warhammer quest. Never played it I i'm willing to try. Actually I want to see Hero Quest come out again.

The Dark One
28-02-2007, 21:24
Warhammer Quest got my vote, with Man O War a close second (should have bought man o war when i had the chance:cries: )

Rabid Bunny 666
28-02-2007, 21:42
WAAAAAAAAAAGH!

I believe i have made my point perfectly valid.

lanrak
30-03-2007, 20:44
I would vote for Dark Future.(With the expantions included.)Because this was my introduction in to non 'historical' gaming.
And the game was simple to pick up,easy to understand ,and great fun to play.
My favourite GW 3D rolplay game.(Space Hulk runs a very close second.)

TTFN
Lanrak.

Grymlok
31-03-2007, 00:09
Right, that is one REALLY hard poll!

Space Hulk versus Warhammer quest.

It's like Hulk Hogan V's the Ultimate Warrior. Who do you root for!!!!!!!

Modhail
02-04-2007, 18:39
Ack! This poll is Evil!
Only one choice?!
And no "All of them"-option? :(

I'm tied between Space Hulk, Man O'War, Talisman (and 2nd ed 40K, but that doesn't count. I just want my superdetailed skirmish back...:angel: )

In the end though, I voted Man O'War, as Talisman is about to be rereleased, and Space Hulk is easier to homebuild (Besides, I don't want to see GW rerelease SH just as I finish my own scratchbuilt hulk. :eyebrows: And there are, ofcourse, the rumours...)

Bye, Modhail

scratchbuilt
03-04-2007, 11:00
Adeptus Titanicus, its not the same as epic, and the old titans looked so much better than the new ones.

Promethius
03-04-2007, 13:50
I'd like to see Space Hulk revisited in the context of Codex:Darkside, with not just space hulk missions (which are cool) but rules for fighting in airless environments and so forth. The original Space Hulk rules were cool, but the problem with the game is that it is very one dimensional - you play with termis and 'stealers and then that's done. The journal used to add in rules for other factions and so forth, but they never really worked well. Ideally I'd like to see spacehulk as a boxed set available in woolworths, toys r us etc. as an introductory set and a 40k zone codex for the veteran players, which could add in another dimension to the setting rather than just allow 40k armies to fight in space hulks.

Gorkamorka is one of the all time greats, and I loved it. It was an immensely fun game to play, and with the ability to custom build your own vehicles for Orks there was an incredible opportunity for diversity and scratch building that veteran players revelled in. However, I'd rather see a generic 40k skirmish game as opposed to Gorkamorka resurgent.

spacedwarv
04-04-2007, 00:47
PLEASE MAN'O' WAR!!!!
Though not many people now about it it is perhaps the best GW game ever made.

BRING BACK MOW!!!

but it is GW so *grumble*

Starscream1138
10-04-2007, 11:18
I'd love to see Warhammer Quest reissued (I still play it but that wouldn't stop me buying a new version).

Even though it's been said that GW aren't big on the idea of Card board sections any more, that shouldn't stop a reissue. They could make the board sections out of interlocking plastic pieces, as has been bandied about for Space Hulk.

Eniac
11-04-2007, 08:00
I'll choose Gorkamorka, I would have picked space hulk as the first but apprently it is being re-done anyway so that is a wasted vote :D

Gorkamorka was a great game, all these people you hear that blast it because of it's so called limited scope are unimaginative bores. There was plenty of ideas in that Game, the single most important part of that game to us was the fun factor! We would invent new perils of the desert, new scenarios and even change the rules to make the game more fun and enjoyable. No rules lawyers there at all. Plenty of conversion ops, great game mechanics and a real sense of character and dialogue.

The only reason I stopped playing the game was because 3rd edition 40k was released and there was such a big fuss over the whole new game mechanics (which were at the time deemed incredible by all of our group) that I guess we kind of forgot about Gorkamorka :(

That is not to say we forgot about the models, atmosphere and character of the orks that the game left with us and I remember playing many games with and against those crayz plastic boys and rough-as-you-like mad max style nobz.

Stormhammers
12-04-2007, 04:02
space hulk would be awsome, but gorkamorka would be a nice (read: great and much needed) change of scenery.


just read Eniac's post and agree wholeheartedly. The character of the game is what makes it great, much like a well done campaign of Mordheim, it gives you the chance to make something with character and uniqueness all your own with all the conversion possibilities.

fattdex
12-04-2007, 05:20
Gorkamorka- we have a strong number of players for it at our club and a number of rulebooks, but it would be great to have it online, with a small facelift!

Follower of Zork
12-04-2007, 14:16
Warhammer quest

Catferret
12-04-2007, 18:08
I would really like to see Warhammer Quest get an update sometime over the next 4 years or so. New models would be nice. Sculpting has really improved since the last version.

Don't get me wrong, Gorkamorka was so much fun but Quest rocked! in fact we still play it occasionally.

Stormhammers
13-04-2007, 04:11
hmm, sad to say, looks as though the people like space hulk...dont blame 'em, but it just doesn't present anything new to the game, the GW universe is too Imperum-centric, they need a game like gorkamorka to put a light on other races in the galaxy

Mahwell Skel
27-04-2007, 17:29
I vote Dark Future. The whole cyberpunk adventure never got what it deserved. It could have been bigger and better than Car Wars but never got the attention with all the other games around at the time.

Realistically I think that Mighty Empires and Man o War would take WFB on further if they brought them all together. The potential for $ here could be massive if they got it right.

They did it for Epic Armageddon with AI so... I say heres hoping!

What about Oi! Dat's my leg?

Bretagne
28-04-2007, 00:56
GorkaMorka

EVIL INC
02-05-2007, 12:16
I( really liked talisman so would like to see it rereleased. Recently played 2 games of quest with my buddies who still have it. It seemed cool enough to re-release.
Although, I would rather see Dark Future re-released. I loved the old novels they printed and always wanted to try playing the game (it looked so cool) but never got to before it was dropped.

KITS AND BITS
03-06-2007, 21:41
spacehulk mk3 ,with plastic tiles(like the new mighty empires tiles) ,they could even use the old terminator plastic moulds for the in box terminators .
would also like to see some upgrades tiles and mission expansion sets .
this would also be a great way to get new players by releasing it into toystores alongside other board games much like they did with space crusade and hero quest back in the 90s

Dragonsbane
09-06-2007, 17:48
Easy.......MANOWAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep bought almost all fleets when it was released and it had some issues (templates and some wacky ships) but i would buy all of it again if the game would be re-released (with some tweaks :-) and larger scale).

About Warhammer Quest. i bought it a week ago on ebay and would like to know what the best resource for WHQ on the internet is. I heard some sites with a lot of stuff closed down not so long ago :-(

75hastings69
09-06-2007, 19:53
I( really liked talisman so would like to see it rereleased. Recently played 2 games of quest with my buddies who still have it. It seemed cool enough to re-release.

Dude where have you been???? It IS getting re-released on 1st October. Check out Black Industries website and the umpteen threads about it on here!!

Got to be MoW, but on a larger scale with plastic ship kits maybe make Empire Greatship a bit smaller than a rhino, whilst Black Ark could be around land raider size. They could even include as much detail as barnacles on the hull!! also include the bow wave in the same clear plastic as the flying stands.

Yep MoW is my number 1 "bring back" game, if not either Space Hulk, or a new version of Heroquest or something (that is what got me into the hobby all those years ago in the first place!!!).

Gen.Steiner
09-06-2007, 20:44
Having just played it for the first time...

BLOCK WAR!

:D

EDIT:

Yep, that was my 5,000th post. Hip-ip! Hurrah!

KITS AND BITS
14-06-2007, 19:20
i would also like to see blood bowl back in the shops , with a plastic board , if they did modular plastic tiles you could do bloodbowl combined with dungeon bowl .....BRING ON THE DEATH ROLLER !!!!

thrash4ever
15-06-2007, 16:46
The Space Hulk PC game was fantastic too.

- Deathwing -
22-06-2007, 12:04
As most did ( until now ), I voted Space Hulk. Simply love the game and, though technically not the same game, Space Crusade introduced me into the hobby.

Venomizer
22-06-2007, 19:53
I voted Space Hulk as it was the game that started my interest in 40k and GW in general...............though it was a very close-run thing with Gorkamorka

grimgorkgalle
23-06-2007, 09:59
Got to be MoW, but on a larger scale with plastic ship kits maybe make Empire Greatship a bit smaller than a rhino, whilst Black Ark could be around land raider size.



:eek: Wow, nice idea indeed. Would love it...

The Anarchist
23-06-2007, 16:51
Don't realy remembe all the games as too young however i still have and play Space Hulk. i just love swarming those smarmy Terminators, and the level of replayability is amazing, it just never gets dull!

Cypher, the Emperor
25-06-2007, 21:55
What about the Wild West game that GW made?

That kicked SO much ass.

grimgorkgalle
03-01-2008, 10:53
Never knew that they made one. How was it called?

Siam-Tiger
03-01-2008, 13:38
Never knew that they made one. How was it called?

I guess he´s talking about Legends of the Old West

Arjuna
04-01-2008, 03:54
Man O War

Fyi, Sea of Claws Yahoo group has a ton of files and alternate "adavanced rules" One member there sells the boats for a lizardman fleet (not in original game) and models for an undead fleet (rules in the citadel journal).

On the web it is very easy to find really good quality pdf's of the the rules and scans of all the unpunched card. Very recently a dedicated (zealous maybe?) player redid all the ship templates and scaled them down to regular poker card size, thus in one fell swoop improving the game 100%.

golembane
05-01-2008, 06:46
I had to vote WHQ. Good bang for the buck.

Right now I am about 80% done merging WHQ rules and Mordhiem rules into a playable ruleet, trying to get rid of the cards really isn't that hard at all. The hardest part was the dungeon cards, but the treasure cards and the event cards could all be found in the Roleplay book of the WHQ core set.

Man o' War wasn't really my cup of tea. It was fun, just didn't stick with me like Space Hulk or WHQ did.

I never got into Gorkamorka, played Necromunda during that time frame, while it was tempting, there was just more options in Necro to choose from in the Clan build.

Overall, I'd have to say almost all the 'unsupported' games were excellent and almost all were far and above the quality of the rulesets of the WHF and WH40K sets.

chrome_ghoul
10-01-2008, 20:59
[QUOTE=Eniac;1460055]I'll choose Gorkamorka, I would have picked space hulk as the first but apprently it is being re-done anyway so that is a wasted vote :D
QUOTE]

Seriously?! Ya got proof?!
If it's true thats the best thing i've heard in years!

I'll take it with a pinch of salt though, I very much doubt GW will release any new stuff for specialist games for at least a year, and probably not even then.

Satan
10-01-2008, 21:54
Erm. The Gorkamorka rules are up on the SG website now, if anyone's interested.

javgoro
13-01-2008, 23:08
I voted warhammer quest, but I´d also love them to rerelease Space Hulk.

Roguebaron
13-02-2008, 00:13
well, i love all these games ( and am fortunate enough to own each of them) Space hulk was much better in the first edition than the second, they made to many minor tweeks and it sucked some of the fun out of it. If they re did it, they'd probably just try and fit it closer to the 40k rules, so i'd be against it. By the way, the dark angel fluff there is completely different than in the descent of angels book, which i found rather disappointing.

Warhammer quest, i believe, was one of the best games gw ever made, simply because i could then buy any cool figure off the shelf, and add it to my game. They sold more figures to me for warhammer then than they do now, just because i wanted something different to paint. The story i heard from jervas years ago was that when they changed locations, the serveres were corrupted and the origional artwork files were all lost. that they still had the rules, but it was no longer cost effective to pay the artists to redo the origional work, and that the 7 pounds of plastic was to much to produce. take that as you will, a great game if you can get ahold of it.

Personally, man o war was one of my all time favourites, it was a blast to play, easy to learn, and easy to paint. you didn't need many models. they killed it when they switched packaging to boxes, and people got disappointed at the teenie boats in these big boxes. It was the same time they increased the epic pricing, and sales dropped so much, the games eventually got dropped. too bad, if you can get man o war, pick it up. :p