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blasterjosh
26-07-2015, 22:06
Need help with orks fast

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Moriarty
26-07-2015, 23:00
Smashing. What help would that be, and how fast, pray?

TheBearminator
27-07-2015, 09:05
You want us to guess what kind of help you need? It sounds like an odd way to start a thread. And not very efficient if you need help fast as you say.

Sir Didymus
27-07-2015, 11:35

TheBearminator
27-07-2015, 11:38
I thought it was 42. :)

A.T.
27-07-2015, 11:42
I thought it was 42. :)It's clearly 'more dakka'

Moriarty
27-07-2015, 12:40
Indeed. And if the answer is _not_ 'more dakka', then you are clearly asking the wrong question.

TheBearminator
27-07-2015, 12:48
It's clearly 'more dakka'
So bustas, gitz, lootas mek guns? I'd like to add powa' klaws.

A.T.
27-07-2015, 12:59
Indeed. And if the answer is _not_ 'more dakka', then you are clearly asking the wrong question.As the amount of dakka increases, the number of problems it is incapable of solving approaches zero :p

Moriarty
27-07-2015, 14:03
Logically, once a critical mass of dakka is achieved, then all problems will be solved. Terminally.

So, gentlemen, it appears we have the answer to whatever problem it was that the OP had. Next!

mikesmight123
27-07-2015, 16:07
So what's the dakka to points cost ratio?

TheBearminator
27-07-2015, 16:50
I wonder if Blasterjosh will see his problem solved when he gets back. Maybe his problem was assembling, painting or affording orks, not playing with them. :)

stroller
27-07-2015, 19:53
I wonder if Blasterjosh will see his problem solved when he gets back. Maybe his problem was assembling, painting or affording orks, not playing with them.

The answer is STILL more dakka.....

Moriarty
27-07-2015, 22:40
So what's the dakka to points cost ratio?

This, of course, would depend upon your measuring system. The generally accepted one is the kiloton, or fraction thereof.
We do not know how Orks would measure it, only that their common measures are 'lots', 'lots & lots' and 'waaaagh!'

Retrospectus
29-07-2015, 02:38
if in doubt, more boyz, then you get choppy AND dakka! (also something really big, and fast..... and choppy.... and lots of it)

TheBearminator
29-07-2015, 06:58
This, of course, would depend upon your measuring system. The generally accepted one is the kiloton, or fraction thereof.
We do not know how Orks would measure it, only that their common measures are 'lots', 'lots & lots' and 'waaaagh!'
Fractions of a kiloton. You mean like... tons?

Poncho160
29-07-2015, 07:15
Dakka may be the answer, but is it, Kunningly brutal dakka or Brutally Kunning Dakka that is needed....

Very important distinction.

Moriarty
29-07-2015, 08:30
Fractions of a kiloton. You mean like... tons?

That would be one expression, though fractions other than 1/1000 are equally valid in this, the most egalitarian of all universes.

And I'd certainly opt for the cunningly brutal dakka - if brutally cunning dakka was not available

Retrospectus
30-07-2015, 04:03
Dakka may be the answer, but is it, Kunningly brutal dakka or Brutally Kunning Dakka that is needed....

Very important distinction.

that depends entirely on which direction you're shooting from

blasterjosh
31-07-2015, 08:53
The problem is my friend plays tirands and I can't beat him I have played him so many times.

Any way this is my army list:
2 sqaurds of 9 boyz and 1nob with a power klaw

2 squards of stormboyz the first has 6 boyz the other has 5 boyz

2 tankbusters

Warboss with a power klaw

1 gretichin squard I am getting to day

and some spare nobez

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blasterjosh
31-07-2015, 08:58
And 2 deffcopters

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TheBearminator
31-07-2015, 09:25
The problem is my friend plays tirands and I can't beat him I have played him so many times.

Any way this is my army list:
2 sqaurds of 9 boyz and 1nob with a power klaw

2 squards of stormboyz the first has 6 boyz the other has 5 boyz

2 tankbusters

Warboss with a power klaw

1 gretichin squard I am getting to day

and some spare nobez

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Sounds like you're playing low point games so far. But regardless, orks usually win by numbers. So bigger units with a klaw nob in each would be my advice.

Chevron_Locked
31-07-2015, 16:08
Sounds like you're playing low point games so far. But regardless, orks usually win by numbers. So bigger units with a klaw nob in each would be my advice.

I second that opinion, its fairly easy for orks to beat nids in the numbers game, have the large mobs engage his gaunts/gents so you can have your more specialised (relative to orks) units free to attack his big boys. My mate always tries his best to engage my special units with his gaunts which leaves easy picking for the rest of his warriors etc.

31-07-2015, 16:37
I agree with the previous 2 comments. Orks have the best troop choice to points cost ratio. Flood him with boys and he won't know what hit him.

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31-07-2015, 16:45

I would say you should check out the Ork tactica thread and also maybe post your army lists.

How do you use only 2 tankbustas?

Moriarty
31-07-2015, 21:09
Welcome back, Blasterjosh.

As you have read, the answer to your problems is Dakka. And lots of it. Possibly lots & lots. To be of more precise help, what points limit are you playing, what does your opponent bring to the table, and does '2 tank busters mean 2 squads, or 2 models? Are your boyz armed with Shoots or Slugga?

Cheers,

M

blasterjosh
01-08-2015, 16:28
2 models the 1 squard of boyz are shooters and there other is slugers

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Moriarty
01-08-2015, 21:20
2 models the 1 squard of boyz are shooters and there other is slugers

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OK, and the points limit you are playing to?

Do you have two tankbustas or two squads?

What does the Tyranid army have?

Cheers,

M

Moriarty
01-08-2015, 21:21
Stoopid duble post.

M

Poncho160
01-08-2015, 21:35
What does he take?

blasterjosh
01-08-2015, 22:16
2 tankbusters models

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blasterjosh
01-08-2015, 22:17
Tyrainds have genstillers
Swarm lord and gards
Brout lord
Spore mines
And normal infantry

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Disposable Hero
01-08-2015, 23:07
Way more Dakka.

TheBearminator
01-08-2015, 23:48
Yeah. Pretty much any unit in the game can shoot the urine out of stealers and gaunts/gants. But in fact you should be able to beat them in melee. Stealers dream opponent is pretty much anything but orks. And the smaller bugs are pretty miserable in CC. To few attacks and, too low strength and t3. The only problem I use to have with nids is their stupid fearless bobbles.

09philj
02-08-2015, 00:07
In summary:
Take out the nastier close combat units with a wall of bullets and crush the rest under a tide of infantry. Trukks will help with this.

Moriarty
02-08-2015, 10:10
Hi Blasterjosh,

thanks for that. It looks as if you have no monsters to deal with, which is good.

I'd be tempted to mix the two small units into one large unit of shoota boyz, throw the two tankbustas in with them as rokkit boyz, and use your grots as a second Troops unit. Run the koptas with the storm boyz as complimentary units, and have the Warboss and nobs as one unit. Arm the Warboss and nobs with shootas.

So, throw the grots into cover (preferably on an objective) and go to ground. Use shoot and retreat tactics with the boys and nobs (I know, but make use of the shooting) until you have worn down his units, then jump on them. Stormboyz and koptas will try to get into his deployment, and convince him to deal with them, giving you more time to shoot. Remember to use your grenade throw for a free small blast template if in range :-)

Let me know how you get on. Best of luck,

M.

MOMUS
03-08-2015, 22:58
More dakka?

Cap'n Facebeard
04-08-2015, 02:59
I would suggest an increase in overall firepower.

EagleWarrior
05-08-2015, 20:08
Yep, dakka is the way. Orks are surprisingly good at being a shooty army. Between 12 and 18 inches they can out shoot marines point for point. They can't hit a barn door but can bring so much to the table that they make up for that in shear mass of firepower.