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Okuto
07-10-2015, 17:05
hello there warseer and thanks in advance for reading

So I'm planning/working a Scum/space pirate themed IG force(IG allied with Inq/SW/Admech/eldar) and want to include a pack of thunderwolf cav, only thing is, I want them to be xeno-themed as my force is a mix of IG deserters/scum, ork freebootaz, renegade marines, eldar corsairs, kroot, etc.

Now originally I was just going to get some saurus cav from fantasy and count them as TWs but they feel somewhat weedy in comparison. Then I thought about Kroot cav but again, too weedy and not armored enough. Also thought about fantasy minotaurs but that felt weird too(how do they move so fast)


So my main question is: Is there any medium ridable xeno beast from any model range that could be used for this purpose?


Would like something akin to the sandtroopers' mount from SW ala below
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130226044435/starwars/images/9/96/Stormtrooper_on_Dewback.png


But anything will do at this rate, I just want a mount thats roughy the size of a thunderwolf. Much thanks in advance

WarsmithGarathor94
07-10-2015, 18:16
What about carmisaurs from fantasy

Okuto
07-10-2015, 18:39
They're too big....and too pricey.

Spiney Norman
07-10-2015, 18:54
What theme are you going for specifically, there are plenty of Monstrous cavalry in the fantasy range that would work, the tomb King snake statues, ogre mournefangs, Khorne juggernauts, empire Demi-griffs and high elf white lions would all be around the right size. The old metal Carnosaur too, but good luck getting hold of those in sufficient quantity.

Would perhaps a domesticated tyranid warrior be going a bit far?

Judging from what you've said I'd probably go for the ogre mournefangs, but it's up to you.

Snake Tortoise
07-10-2015, 19:04
Had you considered seekers? They might be a touch small for your liking but they're cheap and you could change the heads fairly easily if you wanted. I probably wouldn't bother even doing that- a non slaanesh colour should be enough to make them look like a generic xenos mount creature

Fangschrecken
08-10-2015, 02:55
Maybe gene-bulked Tarellians? As represented by Kroxigors? (maybe two per base if needed)

MajorWesJanson
08-10-2015, 05:12
I use the Cold One Cav from Dark Elves personally. Compared to the wolves, scrawny, but they look mean and nasty.

Latro_
08-10-2015, 10:13
Thought about flipping the script and going for a more combat mech style:

e.g.
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Kataphron-Battle-Servitors-Breachers
http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/warpath/forge-fathers/product/forge-father-jotunn-heavy-hailstorm-cannon-bundle.html

Convert them up to be fast tracked combat servitor gribblies. Has more of a rag tag 40k theme than dudes on fantasy mount which is way harder to convert and make believable.

Could fluff it like the admech dude is a renegade genius breaking martian traditions to make combat drug infused mega combat servitors o doom

e.g
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp115/Ash-2-photos/Imperial/Mechanicus/AdMechPreatorian1WIPa.jpg

but more piratey/ragtag

Okuto
08-10-2015, 15:09
What theme are you going for specifically, there are plenty of Monstrous cavalry in the fantasy range that would work, the tomb King snake statues, ogre mournefangs, Khorne juggernauts, empire Demi-griffs and high elf white lions would all be around the right size. The old metal Carnosaur too, but good luck getting hold of those in sufficient quantity.

Would perhaps a domesticated tyranid warrior be going a bit far?

Judging from what you've said I'd probably go for the ogre mournefangs, but it's up to you.

The snakes are too....undead looking lol, also I already used them for chaos spawn. Mournefangs are too pricey for me, juggernauts are too chaosy, demi griffs look too majestic for some scum riding them, white lions have the same issue the griffs have.


I originally thought about just using domesticated tyranids or turning them into a custom xeno, its will on the table but I'd like to look at all my options



Had you considered seekers? They might be a touch small for your liking but they're cheap and you could change the heads fairly easily if you wanted. I probably wouldn't bother even doing that- a non slaanesh colour should be enough to make them look like a generic xenos mount creature

I had but like the cold ones they felt too weedy, most def rough rider material but I don't think thunderwolf material



Maybe gene-bulked Tarellians? As represented by Kroxigors? (maybe two per base if needed)

I had considered Kroxigors but they're a wee bit difficult to acquire on ebay unpainted, my local shop doesn't carry them and I will not give my local GW the satisfaction and purchase something;)



I use the Cold One Cav from Dark Elves personally. Compared to the wolves, scrawny, but they look mean and nasty.

I very much like this too(the scales feel like a 3+ save) but I'd like to test all options, Im particularly curious about alternatives from other manufacturers

I'll end up sticking to the original cold one space lizardmen/Gorn themed units I thought about if I can't figure something out



Thought about flipping the script and going for a more combat mech style:

e.g.
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Kataphron-Battle-Servitors-Breachers
http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/warpath/forge-fathers/product/forge-father-jotunn-heavy-hailstorm-cannon-bundle.html

Convert them up to be fast tracked combat servitor gribblies. Has more of a rag tag 40k theme than dudes on fantasy mount which is way harder to convert and make believable.

Could fluff it like the admech dude is a renegade genius breaking martian traditions to make combat drug infused mega combat servitors o doom

e.g
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp115/Ash-2-photos/Imperial/Mechanicus/AdMechPreatorian1WIPa.jpg

but more piratey/ragtag

I already have renegade Admech represented in my force so I'd like some more xeno representation instead. I'd like as much variety as I can get, I want all the scum of the galaxy in my force not just the human ones, already got enough Guard deserters, renegade marines and hereteks.

Okuto
08-10-2015, 15:12
*double post*

Latro_
08-10-2015, 17:05
ah gotya

how about these:
http://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=260

convert them a lil bit to be more 40k... have a model running with them as like a beat master of sorts, he could be the guy with a fist etc

Okuto
08-10-2015, 19:54
ah gotya

how about these:
http://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=260

convert them a lil bit to be more 40k... have a model running with them as like a beat master of sorts, he could be the guy with a fist etc


Thats a fantastic idea actually....a pack of creatures with a handler armed appropriately,

Hmmmm.....a grot freeboota being dragged along with them perhaps? although how'd he be WS 4? An ork freeboota bringing some attack dogs? Might as well be squigs though at that point. The packmaster idea does seem promising though thanks. It's certainly an angle that would save me converting time.

Though I admit, something reptilian would be my first choice, but the pack master idea would be the plan B

Latro_
09-10-2015, 10:05
Orky syled ogryn mercs on jetboards or rollerskates could work too :D

Tell you what might work too, armoured orky boar boyz! think you could prob fit two on a base to rep the wounds

edit: also just remembered otherworld minis:

http://www.fantization.com/WE-Series-Wilderness-Encounters-Otherworld-Miniatures.aspx
http://www.fantization.com/UA_Series_Underwater_Adventures.aspx

omg freebooter leading a bunch of massive crabs and crayfish! has to be done! have him riding on a looted jetbike type thing modelled like a mini pirate ship!

Dkoz
09-10-2015, 17:17
What about the Stegadon or the Bastiladon?

Okuto
09-10-2015, 21:51
What about the Stegadon or the Bastiladon?

Not quite xeno enough and there's no way I'm paying for 3 of them....might as well buy the thunderwolf boxset at that point:(



Orky syled ogryn mercs on jetboards or rollerskates could work too :D

Tell you what might work too, armoured orky boar boyz! think you could prob fit two on a base to rep the wounds

edit: also just remembered otherworld minis:

http://www.fantization.com/WE-Series-Wilderness-Encounters-Otherworld-Miniatures.aspx
http://www.fantization.com/UA_Series_Underwater_Adventures.aspx

omg freebooter leading a bunch of massive crabs and crayfish! has to be done! have him riding on a looted jetbike type thing modelled like a mini pirate ship!

Those lizards with some conversion work could pass for other xeno, slap a skuriken cannon on them and they could pass for loxatl mercs


A ork freeboota with a looted hellion board prodding the beasties on? It has potential for sure, could be eldar corsairs doing it too.

Dryaktylus
11-10-2015, 23:48
How about these? (http://www.blightwheelminiatures.com/search/Terror%20Bird) Maybe they're a bit weedy, but they have a thick layer of down feathers.:cool:

Okuto
12-10-2015, 01:24
How about these? (http://www.blightwheelminiatures.com/search/Terror%20Bird) Maybe they're a bit weedy, but they have a thick layer of down feathers.:cool:

Somehow I can't imagine that bird dishing out the hurt of a thunderwolf......

There's also the fact that bird cav doesn't seem to scream imposing and threatening, elegant yes, if I was building a 19th century "life guard" unit I think those birds would be perfect(there's something similar to those mounts in gaunt's ghosts) but I think pirate scum would prefer to ride something more scary looking;)

agurus1
12-10-2015, 19:18
Maybe Ogres from fantasy? Could be gene-bulked ogryns? Just need some 40k bits to make them look more meched up, maybe giant chainblades? And power gauntlets?

Okuto
13-10-2015, 02:33
Maybe Ogres from fantasy? Could be gene-bulked ogryns? Just need some 40k bits to make them look more meched up, maybe giant chainblades? And power gauntlets?

Nah, don't want to use ogres, too imperial, I want the scummiest scum of the galaxy in my crew and I'm pretty good on ex-imperials. Also I already have a ork freebootas as bullgryns project in its infancy to fill the role.

At the moment my ideas are:

-Packmaster idea, slap three suitable beasts to a base with handler. Thinking it could be a freeboota/renegade/eldar corsair handler
-Cold One cav turned into star trek inspired Gorn cav
-Dark Eldar beastmaster pack count as
-Kroot cav
-warhammer fantasy minotaurs converted into Tarellians
-Nid bits to make a suitable xeno, Rak'gol come to mind

Dryaktylus
13-10-2015, 12:33
If you want to give your mounts a creepy look you could find someone who has a DE Hydra (or buy one and sell it) to get the Kharibdyss heads - they should be alien enough to convert lizards, kroot mounts or minotaurs into something very different looking.

deathrain-commander
13-10-2015, 13:55
If you don't mind going outside GW, Scibor Miniatures has some "Celtic Warrior" (IE Space Wolves in all but name) Bear Riders that look pretty good. I'd always intended to use them for either my Kislev themed Empire army or my Bear-themed Space Wolves army. Unfortunately they're a little on the pricey side, but they look pretty fantastic, and they definitely don't look too weedy.

http://sciborminiatures.com/pow.php?absol=1&co=i/2014/big/celtic_bear_p_02.jpg

http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=1412

Okuto
13-10-2015, 14:48
If you don't mind going outside GW, Scibor Miniatures has some "Celtic Warrior" (IE Space Wolves in all but name) Bear Riders that look pretty good. I'd always intended to use them for either my Kislev themed Empire army or my Bear-themed Space Wolves army. Unfortunately they're a little on the pricey side, but they look pretty fantastic, and they definitely don't look too weedy.

http://sciborminiatures.com/pow.php?absol=1&co=i/2014/big/celtic_bear_p_02.jpg

http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=1412


Thanks but thats completely what I'm against, its precisely the space viking feel that is why I'm looking for alternatives;). Those guys look cool in a space wolf army but I'm making an army of piratical scum, xeno mercs, gangers, and renegades so I don't feel those guys fit in my theme

Aluinn
13-10-2015, 18:30
I think these could be good, though it would be hard to represent any wargear options for the riders with them other than the basic stuff:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Skin-Wolves

(They also make good Khorne-themed Chaos Spawn IMO.)

thanoson
13-10-2015, 18:44
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p121114.html
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p132463.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SWM-Tusken-Raider-on-Bantha-with-Stat-Card-Universe-Star-Wars-Miniatures-WOTC-/291584046542?hash=item43e3c375ce

Okuto
13-10-2015, 18:50
I think these could be good, though it would be hard to represent any wargear options for the riders with them other than the basic stuff:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Skin-Wolves

(They also make good Khorne-themed Chaos Spawn IMO.)

Those guys are very nice indeed, not for this particular project(not sure how'd you represent their weapon options) but I could see them useful for other projects

sedgey
13-10-2015, 19:54
I very much like this too(the scales feel like a 3+ save) but I'd like to test all options, Im particularly curious about alternatives from other manufacturers
Dark Elf fantasy players looking for less weedy Cold Ones often go for the Gamezone Predators e.g.: http://www.gamezoneminiatures.com/tienda/en/dark-elves/297-caballero-oscuro-en-predador-ii.html - they're worth a look.

Okuto
13-10-2015, 22:08
Dark Elf fantasy players looking for less weedy Cold Ones often go for the Gamezone Predators e.g.: http://www.gamezoneminiatures.com/tienda/en/dark-elves/297-caballero-oscuro-en-predador-ii.html - they're worth a look.

those are very nice indeed, do the riders come separate?

sedgey
14-10-2015, 12:19
The 'Accessories' tab on the page shows the parts - the riders are separate to the steeds.